tv Late Night With Seth Meyers NBC May 5, 2016 12:37am-1:36am EDT
[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- aaron paul, comedian gilbert gottfried, director of broadway's "hamilton", thomas kail, featuring the 8g band with mark guiliana. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers! [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] that is fantastic to hear. let's get to the news. ted cruz has officially dropped out of the presidential race. and it's an odd feeling, honestly. it's kind of like when you have a party at your house and there's an awful guy who creeps everybody out and it's super
and as you close the door behind him and you let out a sigh of relief, then all of a sudden you hear a voice say, "we should get some more beers." [ laughter ] oh, no, i forgot. [ cheers and applause ] i thought i could go to bed, i forgot. john kasich has officially dropped out of the presidential race. so, if you were a big john kasich fan -- no you weren't. [ laughter ] that's right, after a bitter campaign season, in which he won his home state of ohio only, john kasich today suspended his presidential campaign. now he can go back to his old job, playing the cool math teacher in a teen show on the disney channel. [ laughter ] as she looks forward to the general election, hillary clinton has begun vetting possible running mates. and she is really going after that millennial vote. [ laughter ] mom, dad, i know you are watching at home.
that's the snapchat logo. [ light laughter ] rapper jay-z is reportedly working on a new album to address the infidelity rumors brought up by his wife beyonce's latest project, "lemonade." though maybe their marriage would be going better if they didn't communicate by albums. [ laughter ] you are going to hear what i have to say about this. [ laughter ] eddie murphy, this week, welcomed his ninth child. even more impressive, they're all played by him. [ laughter and applause ] that's how good he is. a woman in florida last week told police that she believed the food she bought at kfc contained semen. so only ten more secret herbs and spices to go. [ laughter ] just something to think about
next time you are enjoying the colonel. [ laughter ] [ audience groans ] [ applause ] and finally, indonesian police have confiscated a sex doll from a remote village in the country, after its inhabitants mistook it for a fallen angel. said the guy who found her, "oh, she's no angel." [ laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a fantastic -- [ applause ] fantastic show for you tonight. he is one of the stars of the new hulu series, "the path," which is fantastic. aaron paul is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] just a lovely guy, a fantastic actor. i'm so happy he's here. one of my all time favorite comedians, i'm so happy he is back on the show. gilbert gottfried will be here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] also, he is the tony-nominated director of the broadway smash hit, "hamilton." thomas kail is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] and, i don't want to put too
much pressure on thomas, but i think if it's a good interview, they are gonna finally start selling some tickets. this is a chance to turn it around for box office dud, "hamilton." [ light laughter ] alright, moving on. donald trump is now the presumptive gop nominee for president, after winning the indiana primary last night, and forcing ted cruz to suspend his campaign. but there's still one man left standing, ohio governor, john kasich. oh, he dropped out? today? okay then. well, with the race effectively over, the moment has finally arrived when republicans can no longer remain in denial. trump is the candidate their voters want and they should take a look in the mirror and ask why. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ applause ] >> seth: let's begin with ted cruz, the best chance for the stop trump forces. he threw everything he had at trump in indiana. first he announced a last-ditch alliance with john kasich. then, in an act of desperation chose carly fiorina as his running mate.
voters in polls. and in a moment that summed up the entirety of the stop trump effort so far, fiorina herself fell flat, literally. >> and the next president of the united states, ted cruz. [ laughter ] >> seth: she didn't even move. that's how a magician leaves. [ laughter ] she's a real david carlyfield. [ light laughter ] now, you may have noticed ted not help carly back up. and you may be thinking, "what kind of person wouldn't lend a hand?" and trump agrees with you. >> she fell off the stage the other day. did anybody see that? and cruz didn't do anything! i was a -- even i woulda helped her, okay? [ laughter ] >> seth: "even i would've helped her." not only does trump know he's an ass[ bleep ], but he knows that we know he's an ass[ bleep ]. [ laughter ] "even i would have helped her. and watching women fall down is basically my favorite thing." [ laughter ]
so tumblegate was the first sign that things weren't going well for cruz in indiana. then he got heckled by someone in the crowd who was apparently still in middle school. >> something truly bizarre happened last night. something i have never seen before. ted cruz had a heckler. he has hecklers from time to time. but this heckler couldn't have been more than 10 or 12 years old. [ inaudible ] >> we don't care. >> apparently, there's a young man that has some problems. [ laughter ] >> seth: even worse, after the event, the kid stuffed cruz into a locker. [ laughter ] but rock bottom came on monday when cruz, the princeton and harvard-educated debater encountered a group of trump supporters outside a rally and decided to use his powers of persuasion on them. it did not go great. >> what do you like about donald? >> everything. >> give me one. >> everything. >> give me -- pick anything. >> the wall.
donald told "the new york times" editorial board he is not going to build a wall and he's not going to deport anyone? >> you're lyin' once again, lyin' ted! you are the problem, politician. you are the problem. >> can i ask you something? >> no. >> can i ask you something? >> no. >> seth: "can i ask you something?" "no." [ laughter ] "please?" "no!" debating trump supporters is like trying to untangle headphones in a tornado. [ laughter ] but ted cruz is a man who has argued before the supreme court. so he did not give up. >> sir, america is a better country -- >> without you. [ laughter ] >> thank you for those kind sentiments. and a question everyone here should ask -- >> are you canadian? >> do you want -- >> are you canadian? >> do you want your kids repeating the words of donald trump? >> seth: i'm pretty sure that dude's okay with his kids repeating donald trump. his kid's probably the one at the cruz rally who yelled "you suck." [ light laughter ]
>> is that guy here with the sunglasses? i don't know if he's here or seven. but whoever he is, i thought he was very cool. [ light laughter ] >> seth: sure, if you think cool is a cross between a snowmobile instructor and the bass player for limp bkit. [ laughter ] but the worst came tuesday morning when trump repeated an offensive conspiracy theory about cruz's father, rafeal cruz. trump sited a completely uncorroborated "national enquirer" story that claimed rafeal cruz was with j.f.k. assassin, lee harvey oswald, before oswald shot j.f.k. can you imagine what trump's going to say about hillary? "i think it's time for hillary to tell us where she was when biggie got shot. that's all i'm saying. if she has an alibi, i would love to hear it." second, this should be a serious moment of introspection for republicans. how did they get to the point where they are handing their nomination to a race-baiting, xenophobic, serial liar who pedals conspiracy theories and thinks the "national enquirer" is a real newspaper.
this is no accident. it is not a fluke. the republican party is the party of donald trump and has been for years. let me take you back to 2009 when scenes like this were playing out across the country. >> i have a birth certificate here from the united states of america saying i'm an american citizen. why are you people ignoring his birth certificate. >> yeah! >> he is not an american citizen. he is a citizen of kenya. and i don't want this flag to change! i want my country back! >> seth: first of all, even if obama was a secret muslim, he was never going to change the flag. [ light laughter ] that's like a sure fire way to blow his secret. "how about instead of stars we do little crescents?" "why?" "no reason." [ laughter ] trump saw that and he fanned the flames.
when confronted with the fact that large numbers of their voters believe these racist myths peddled by trump and others? >> as speaker of the house, as the leader, do you not think it's your responsibility to stand-up to that kind of ignorance? >> david, it's not my job to tell the american people what to think. >> but that kind of ignorance about where he's a muslim, does it concern you? >> the american people have the right to think what they want to think. i can't -- it's not my job to tell them. >> seth: it wasn't your job to tell them? your job title was literally "speaker." [ laughter ] [ bleep ] speak. [ laughter ] so gop leaders openly tolerated and encouraged racist myths about the first black president being born in kenya and being a muslim. myths that made trump famous with conservatives. and now, instead of resisting his nomination out of moral opposition to trump's loathsome politics, official republicans are beginning to fall in line behind him. like senator orrin hatch -- who endorsed jeb bush and then marco rubio -- who said this week, "i'm
him." or former louisiana governor bobby jindal, who once called trump "a non- serious carnival act," but said this week, "i will be supporting him." and this perfectly encapsulates why the forces opposed to trump within the gop were doomed from the beginning, because they were never willing to fully commit to standing up to trump. sure, cruz said this yesterday -- >> this man is a pathological liar. he doesn't know the difference between truth and lies. he lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. >> seth: but ted cruz also said this in july. >> i like donald trump. he's a friend of mine. i think the reason why he is getting the attention he is and the support he is, is that he's bold and brash and he's willing to speak the truth. >> seth: "in fact, i think he's the only candidate honest enough to tell the truth about my father killing j.f.k. [ laughter ] he's an honest man." at the end of the day, republican leaders should do some soul searching about how they turned their party into the part of donald trump
its good intentions, was awkward, was poorly organized. almost as awkward as this moment, after ted cruz's speech last night in which he accidentally elbowed his wife, heidi cruz, in the face. >> ending his quest for the presidency right now. [ laughter ] >> seth: so stop trump failed. but good news, stop heidi, full steam ahead. [ laughter ] this has been "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with more "late night." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ("without you") ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. please give it up for the 8g band over there. [ cheers and applause ] also back again tonight to sit in with the 8g band, he's a new york based musician whose drumming you can hear on david bowie's extraordinary "black star" record, mark guiliana is with us. [ cheers and applause ] nice to have you, mark. be sure to check out the mark guiliana jazz quartet's latest album "family first," available now. thank you so much for being here, mark. fantastic. >> thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: now here at "late night," every night, i deliver monologues. that monologue is comprised of jokes written by a diverse team of writers. and as a result, sometimes jokes come across my desk as me being a straight, white male would be difficult to deliver. but we don't think that should stop yro
so we would like to share them with you now in a new segment called "jokes seth can't tell." ♪ [ applause ] >> seth: hey, everybody, these are two of our writers, amber and jenny. >> i'm black. >> and i'm gay. >> and we are both women. >> seth: okay, and i'm none of those things. [ light laughter ] i will say the set up to the joke and amber and jenny will do the punch line. here we go. a swedish public television network is set this week to air the period song, a tune written to explain menstruation to children. >> they didn't say what style the song is in, but i'm guessing ragtime. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> seth: rumor has it that in the upcoming disney movie, "frozen 2" princess elsa will come out as a lesbian. >> she's looking for an ariel in the streets, and a mulan in the sheets. [ laughter ] >> seth: a 6-year-old
for not breaking up a fight. >> it's like the old black saying goes, arrested if you do, arrested if you don't. [ light laughter ] >> seth: oh, yeah. i definitely didn't want to tell that one. >> yeah. [ light laughter ] >> seth: chobani has come out with a new ad featuring a lesbian couple eating yogurt in bed after sex. >> but it doesn't show what they were eating before that. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> seth: dwayne the rock johnson turns 44 this week. >> but if you ask me, he turned 40-foine. >> seth: sorry, fourty-fine? >> foine. >> seth: fern? >> foine. >> seth: how do you spell it? >> you don't spell it, you feel it. [ light laughter ] >> seth: okay. >> why don't you try one, seth. >> seth: oh, no. >> yeah, come on, seth. give it a try. >> just one try. >> come on. do it. [ cheers and applause ] >> sh:
helped a woman break out of her chastity belt after she locked it and lost the keys. which is odd, because usually when they rescue a stuck pussy, it's from a tree. [ light laughter ] >> oh my god seth. >> i'm shocked. >> seth: you promised me. [ laughter ] >> how dare you? >> seth: you told me to do it. >> you should be ashamed of yourself! [ talking over each other ] >> seth: it's true what they say, lesbians and black women are liars. [ laughter ] >> how could you? ♪ [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with more "late night. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ...your starting lineup. ♪
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. our first guest tonight is an emmy winning actor you know from his portrayal of jesse pinkman on the critically acclaimed series "breaking bad." he stars in the new series "the pad" which streams new episodes every wednesday on hulu. let's take a look.
>> fantastic. everybody. >> seth: congratulations, the show just got picked up for a second season. it was announced today. >> today, yeah. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: very exciting. >> thank you very much. >> seth: now this show, i watched the beginning of it. it is fantastic. it's about a cult -- >> well, a movement. >> seth: a movement. [ light laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: oh, wow. >> yeah. >> seth: wow, so you drank the kool-aid enough that you won't even call it a cult. >> i drank a lot kool-aid. yeah. >> seth: now, i want to thank you because it's the meyerist, meyerist movement. >> yeah, yeah. >> seth: it's called meyerism. >> based off you. >> seth: thank you very much. >> yeah. [ light laughter ] >> seth: find peace with dry commentary. [ light laughter ] >> the meyers movement. you know, it's really just -- >> seth: what is meyerism in the show? >> it's really they're just living a life of transparency, a life with no lies, being honest with each other. not a bad way to live. >> seth: not a bad way to live. but a couple of episodes in, you're like, wait a second. >> a couple episodes in you're like, oh, there's something else going on. you know, they believe they climbed the ladder, one rung
they will eventually live in the garden and become pure energy in life. >> seth: gotcha. >> yeah. >> seth: perfectly fine thing to believe. [ light laughter ] now the funny thing about this, is this true you were filming and people were walking by, reading the fake literature and being interested? >> yeah, yeah. [ laughter ] no, i mean the attention to detail. >> seth: when people say how does donald trump happen in this country, that's how it happens. [ light laughter ] somebody walks by and read the prop and is like, i loved it. >> i know. and really, they walk by -- actually in new york, we were shooting in the city. and there was no cameras around, but people were walking by. and they see pamphlets on a table. and it's just an illustration of a man with his arms reached out to the sky. and people were already sold. [ light laughter ] they're like, sign me up. they started reading the pamphlet. and they just loved what they were reading and they wanted more information on it. >> seth: that's fantastic. >> yeah. >> seth: it's a good way to get free extras.
>> yeah, yeah. >> seth: i was in a church for eight years and it turned out it was a tv show. [ laughter ] i was an unpaid extra on a tv show. so i'm probably not joining another church. >> they really created a movement. >> seth: that's very nice. and now, every movement -- >> yeah. >> seth: requires a charismatic leader. in this show it's played by hugh dancy. >> yes. >> seth: would you join a movement led by hugh dancy? >> of course. >> seth: he's pretty charismatic. >> i mean, i don't think he could be anymore charming than he already is. >> seth: yeah. >> the guy he created, cal is just unbelievable you know?. he has that just powerful, winning smile, you know? >> seth: yeah. >> and yeah, i would follow him anywhere. >> seth: there you go. that's good to know. [ light laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: so that's all you are. you're just one hugh dancy away from being in a cult. [ light laughter ] >> aren't we all, though? >> seth: yeah we are. >> aren't we all? [ light laughter ] >> seth: and this is also -- i'm very happy for you. because there must be pressure as an actor when you're leaving a role like jesse pinkman on "breaking bad." >> yeah. >> seth: like one of the great tv shows ever.
and i'm so happy you ended up on something so high quality. do you feel the same way when you're going into it? >> absolutely. i always joked about when "breaking bad" was ending, that it was -- for me, it was just all downhill from there. >> seth: yeah. >> because really, "breaking bad" was you know, i know i'm biased, but was the pinnacle of television, you know. it was one of the greatest shows ever. and i just felt very blessed to be part of it. so, i was okay going down the downhill slide. [ light laughter ] but with this, honestly, i mean the first two episodes i read, when it was placed on my desk, i was just fell in love with the world they created. jessica goldberg, our creator just really painted a beautiful picture for us to play with. >> seth: it's great. and now i want to ask about "breaking bad" as well. i know when shows end, sometimes people end up with a prop that means a lot to them. >> yeah. >> seth: something from the set. you have i did not realize. you have one of the great, the best possible prop from "breaking bad." >> yeah, yeah.
took everything i could from the show. [ light laughter ] >> seth: gotcha. yeah. we actually have security people from "breaking bad" who want to talk to you. >> okay, great. yeah, yeah. i literally took everything. >> seth: there's a scene where gus fring, one of the great characters on the show as well, got his face blown off. >> yeah. >> seth: and you actually -- you have this. >> yeah. >> seth: in your apartment. >> i have his head. [ light laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> like no joke, i actually have that head in my media room. >> seth: and now, do you have to give people a heads up when they walk in there? [ light laughter ] >> no, i do it on purpose, not telling them. >> seth: oh, that it's there? >> because, right away they don't see it when they walk downstairs, but then you can tell when they see it. [ laughter ] >> seth: nobody's played it cool yet? >> they are like oh, [ bleep ]. but, yeah. >> seth: the weird thing will be when you have a friend come down and say, cool, i have a head. [ light laughter ] i got a head too, that's awesome. yeah. i di't
>> yeah. yeah. [ light laughter ] pretty good head to have. >> seth: pretty good. we are having one of those nights. >> yeah, i like it. i like it. [ light laughter ] >> seth: your mom, when you started "breaking bad," of course nobody knew what it was going to be. i think one of the reasons expectations were different is because of bryan cranston. >> right. >> seth: and your mom was excited about this show for his previous work. >> yeah. because she was obsessed with "malcolm in the middle." [ laughter ] and she couldn't believe i was going to meet hal from "malcolm in the middle." but i think deep down, she was just super excited because she knew eventually she was going to meet hal from "malcolm in the middle." [ light laughter ] and i was very happy for her. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: did she have an expectation of what the show was going to be because of "malcolm in the middle?" did she think you were about to be on a family comedy? >> probably. yeah. [ light laughter ] but then i let her know it was all about cancer and meth. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. >> seth: ts
that lets her know -- he's going a different way. >> different direction. >> seth: well, congratulations on the show, a pleasure to have you here. >> thank you so much. >> seth: please, come back anytime. the great aaron paul, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] new episodes of "the path" air wednesdays on hulu. we'll be back with more "late night. [ cheers and applause ] ♪
you can subscribe to gilbert gottfried's amazing colossal podcast, which is available on itunes. and he's also in the upcoming documentary "life animated," which opens july 8th. please welcome back to the show, our friend, gilbert gottfried. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: how are you? >> tha -- oh, it's great to be back. >> seth: oh, i'm so happy. >> i'm -- i'm a friend of your parents. >> seth: i know. i know that you've met by parents. >> yeah, they came to a club in boston, i think. >> seth: yeah. >> and they were very nice people. and they came to me after the show and then they suggested a threesome.
[ laughter ] >> i just -- i don't know. [ laughter ] maybe i'm a little old fashioned that way. >> seth: you would be surprised how many people say yes to them. [ laughter ] now -- now all i ask at interviews, especially today, this feels more important than ever. you were on "celebrity apprentice" with donald trump. donald trump fired you. >> yes. >> seth: and what was it like to be fired by donald trump? >> see -- see this is the problem the way they edit these shows. he fires me like very angrily. but they don't show afterwards when he invited me into his office and we laid on the couch and cuddled for an hour. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] >> it happened. >> seth: yeah that was totally on the cutting room floor. >> yeah, they -- they don't show that. cause i like donald. he's kind of like hitler without the warrant. [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: yeah. did you -- did you -- was it an
enjoyable experience doing the "celebrity apprentice?" >> yeah. i think i lasted about an hour and a half. [ laughter ] yeah, i didn't sell that many corn muffins. >> seth: oh no. >> or whatever you have to do. >> seth: you weren't good at selling corn muffins. >> yeah, surprising. >> seth: i would have thought you would have been great. >> yeah. most people -- most people when they see me act think, he'd be much better at selling corn muffins. [ laughter ] yeah. >> seth: now you have a theory that you can tell what trump is thinking based on his expression. >> yes. you got to watch very closely. if he likes you, he makes a face like this. [ laughter ] if he doesn't like you, he makes a face like this. [ laughter ] >> seth: very subtle difference. >> if he's not sure -- >> seth: okay. so you really have to have an eye for it. >> yes. >> seth: so you've been doing this podcast, 100 episodes. congratulations. >> yes. yes, 100. you're supposed to applaud at that stuff. [ cheers and applause ]
>> seth: "gilbert gottfried's colossal podcast." >> you're a television audience! you're supposed to act like pavlov's dog! [ laughter ] like, i say 100, oh, great. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: now, "gilbert gottfried's colossal podcast." >> yes, "gilbert gottfried's amazing colossal podcast." >> seth: amazing colossal podcast. but you had -- this is not the original title. what were you gonna call it? >> well, see we like to go -- me, i have a co-host, frank santopadre, who's a comedy writer on "the view." because you know, when i think comedy -- >> seth: sure. >> i think "the view." >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> you know i always think charlie chaplin, the marcs brothers, "the view." [ laughter ] and so, both of us are into old hollywood. you know, we get these people like, dick van dyke was on the show. he's like 90. and i sang a duet with him.
are in their 90s. and so, we were originally going to call the show, "the before it's too late show." [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> yeah, i just thought it could be a problem because then you go up to people and say, hey, could you do my podcast because i really think you'll be dead within the week, you know. [ laughter ] >> seth: have you had any guests who have been on the show who are no longer with us? >> most of them. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] >> most of them were dead before they got on the show. [ laughter ] yeah, in fact, when i write down the name and say call him, that means they'll drop dead. you know, it's like, hi, can your client be on my show? oh, he died this morning. [ laughter ] had you called an hour before -- >> seth: have you had any favorites? >> there's been a few. there's like -- well like, there's -- you know how like the monkee's are famous for having outsold the beatles? >> seth: sure i've heard that.
>> that's a fate -- we had mike nesmith from the monkee's who said that's total bull. he made it up. he lied to a reporter and it became accepted as fact. >> seth: oh wow. well that would never happen in the day of the internet. >> no. [ laughter ] >> seth: that's stuff that can only happen in the '60s. >> and we did a whole show about robots in tv shows like homes and yo yo and lost in space robots. and the way that started was we saw a news story that this japanese guy invented a scarlett johansson robot. >> seth: i have read that story, yeah. >> which if i had the scarlett johansson robot, you'd never see me again. [ laughter ] yeah. it's like, i would be -- i would short circuit that in five minutes. i -- [ laughter ]
i mean, if i had -- i would just program it to say oh, gilbert, you're so big! [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. yeah. >> yeah. [ laughter ] [ applause ] >> seth: obviously, you've been a guest on talk shows for years. how do you like being the person who interviews? >> that's -- that's the weird part for me, is like, i am used to being the interviewee all these years where i could look at the interviewer and go, oh, he's an idiot. [ laughter ] like i'm doing. >> seth: i saw that. [ laughter ] >> but, now, i realize i'm the idiot in the interview. >> seth: gotcha. gotcha. i want to ask. i want to talk about "life animated" real quick. >> yes. >> seth: this is a fantastic film. this is about an autistic kid whose father figures out he can un
a huge fan of disney films -- >> yeah. >> seth: using the iago voice from "aladdin." >> yes. his son, at three started sinking deeper and deeper into autism, where it was cut off from his parents. they couldn't talk to him, he couldn't talk to them. but he watched disney cartoons all day. the feature length "aladdin," "beauty and the beast," and then he took him to every doctor. nothing helped. and then he went into the room. and he saw he had the puppet, iago, the parrot that i did the voice of. and he put it on his hand and he started imitating my voice. and he said, like it's like imitating a broken cuisenart. [ laughter ] and he looks up and he goes, hello, owen. and the kid looks in the parrots eyes and he goes, what's it like being you?
i don't have any friends. >> seth: oh, wow. >> he continued talking in my voice. in the parrot, and that's like the first real conversation they had. >> seth: well that sounds like an incredible film and that's coming out this summer. >> yeah. "life animated." >> seth: so we should all check it out. and i've seen scene's from it and it's fantastic when you show up. so that's really great that you did that. thank you so much for being here. it's always a such a pleasure. >> thank you. >> seth: gilbert gottfried everybody. for more info go to gilbertgottfried.com. we'll be right back with more "late night." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ what are some of the things i look for in a t-shirt? right sleeve, left sleeve, neck hole. is this shirt alive man? oh, i'm tucking baby. no dancing, i don't dance.
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which is currently playing at the richard rodgers theater. please welcome to the show thomas kail. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i'm so happy to have you here. >> i'm very pleased to be here. >> seth: congratulations not only on the success of the show, but this was a very exciting week. you got nominated, the show got nominated for 16 tonys, seven actors were nominated. you were nominated. [ cheers and applause ] now obviously, you knew the show would be getting some nominations. did you realize -- did you expect this sort of record breaking amount of tonys? >> no, there's no emoji for 16. >> seth: right, that's true. >> no, not in any way. i mean the reality is when you make a show, what you want to do is have the show be seen and heard and have that energy of the show be amplified. and obviously, this is the time of the year when so many
them. so the fact that people recognize the work of our designers and our actors was incredibly moving. because there's so many people that we never get to see off stage that also feel like they can participate hopefully. so that -- it was a remarkable day. >> seth: well congratulations and obviously it deserves all the accolades. now as famous as its success, as a work of art, it's already famous for how hard it is to get tickets. how -- >> i've never seen it, but i -- [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah, you haven't gone yet. right? >> no, no, no. >> seth: you've only seen it from the side. >> they threw me out after the opening number. >> seth: is it good from the front? so tell me, you obviously have access to tickets. people must bother you for ticket requests all the time? >> yes. [ laughter ] >> seth: who is the most random person that has reached out to you? >> you know, there's somebody that's e-mailing me that i don't know. >> seth: who? >> somehow got my e-mail address. >> seth: okay. >> and gives me, like, really detailed reports of when they're in town. [ laughter ] >> seth: gotcha. >> so, we're here. [ laughter ] >> seth: and you don't know who it is? >> i mean not a clue. and i feel like enga
>> seth: right. >> so -- >> seth; so you're just ignoring somebody saying they're here. so then do you just -- >> i'm like -- if they watch this they're not -- it's like i'm being spammed for tickets. >> seth: yeah. >> or something quick. >> i think i should not indulge. >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> but yes, there are some -- you make a lot of new friends, you know? >> seth: i imagine. >> and i didn't have a lot of friends. [ laughter ] it was just for me. >> seth: so if you're out there, if you're a kid who doesn't have a lot of friends, you know just direct a hit broadway show. >> work really hard in a basement. >> seth: so lin-manuel miranda who created the show, who wrote it, you've known him for a very long time. you did "in the heights" together. >> that's correct. >> seth: but you went to college together. >> we did. yes. >> seth: did you know each other in college? >> we did not. lin was a freshman when i was a senior. >> seth: okay. >> and not talking to freshman. but, so -- [ laughter ] >> seth: you know you might have more friends if you did. [ laughter ] >> it was senior year, man. please -- >> seth: right, right. exactly. >> i'm gonna go see the world. [ applause ] you know, my senior year, i started doing theater sort of in the student theater. i never studied it formally. but we would do these student productions.
show in the gymnasium, quality. [ laughter ] and i kept on hearing about someone that was borrowing our lights at night that had written this musical called "seven minutes in heaven." which seemed like a terrible title. >> seth: yeah. >> and it was this -- it was this freshman lin in his dorm. and i said you know what, i hope i never meet this guy, i hope i never see him, i hope he writes a musical about the revolutionary war. >> seth: right, exactly. [ laughter ] >> so all the things you think your senior year. >> seth: exactly. >> so i didn't meet him until 2002, after he graduated. a couple of my friends saw this early version of "in the heights" and sent me the cd. and so i sort had this in cd my head for two years before i met him in june of 2002. >> seth: oh wow. and now the same thing happened with "hamilton." right? you heard the music, obviously. and you know, i think the selling point of this idea, of it's a hip hop musical about alexander hamilton, is maybe a stretch for people to think well this is a sure fire hit. what was your first reaction when he told you about it? >> yes, let's go. because everything that lin had thought was a good idea
>> but, like, it was at least worth being around. i mean he was not a freshman anymore, so i could speak to him. [ laughter ] >> seth: these guys from your class be like, he's still a freshman to us, why are you talking to him? >> i also feel like wearing like a letterman's jacket like directing theater or something. yeah, yeah, i'm varsity -- [ laughter ] so you know, basically lin wrote this one song in 2009. and the first time i ever heard about the show, lin went on a vacation from "in the heights" and this was back when we were g-chatting. >> seth: okay. >> not snapchatting kids. no, lin sent me this g-chat where he's like, hey i'm doing this and i'm catching up on "madman" season one. and i just spoke about "hamilton." i was like, great, great, great. when are you back? like it didn't even -- >> seth: yeah. >> register with me. and then he played this song that he wrote about four or five months later for me. which is the one that he ended up doing at the white house. >> seth: oh, the first song? >> the first song. >> seth: the amazing thing about that story is he could have just as easily written a musical about "madmen." >> that's right. [ laughter ] >> seth: so lucky. >> but the rights were tied up. >> seth: exactly, that's true. >> so it was tough. >> seth: now this is maybe the most incredible result of the
put a woman on the ten dollar bill. they were going to replace alexander hamilton. it seems as though the success of the show has now changed it to, oh, we're going to put a woman on the 20 dollar bill. is that -- can you believe this is an outcome of what you guys have done? >> i mean theater being relevant is this amazing thing. making a broadway musical that might have somehow impacted the currency of the united states of america is the first thing i talk about at rehearsal. [ laughter ] guys, let's come together, i want to really do our job here. because, maybe. you know, i think there's something in the show that -- who tells your story idea which is really prevalent in the show. the fact that this conversation has evolved to a place where now harriet tubman is on a bill, so rightly deserved. that this idea of finding different stories that can exist on money. these freeze frames of this snapshot from washington, d.c. in 1939 or harriet tubman. like that, in a way, is the same kind of story telling. so i mean the whole thing is slightly mind bending.
say, we tried to make a good show. and the fact that people liked it, and now there's a ten dollar bill were not the things that we were discussing in 2010. >> seth: now i know you're leaving. you got to run off tonight because you have a new show. what do you think the chances are that that one will affect currency? [ laughter ] >> i think strong to very strong. >> seth: strong to very strong. yeah, well you're on a winning streak right now. you're on -- congratulations so much again. >> thank you. i appreciate it. >> seth: such a pleasure to have you. thomas kail everybody. "hamilton" is playing now at the richard rodgers theater. we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ♪