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i'm chris wallace. federal judges temporarily blocked part of president trump's travel ban on people coming to the u.s. from muslim countries. >> let them out! >> chris: protests at airports and sports bars reporting travelers. >> we will have a very strict band and extreme vetting which we should have had in this country for many years. >> chris: as tensions rise with mexico over plans for a border wall. >> the american people will not pay for the wall, and i've made that clear to the government of mexico. >> chris: we will talk with kellyanne conwayco
president trump about his controversial executive actions and his ambitious agenda. then, where will democrats try to block the president, and what about his supreme court nominee this week? >> what we hope would be that our democratic friends will treat president trump's nominee in the same way that we treated clinton and obama. >> chris: 's the number two democrat in the senate, dick durbin, on the fight ahead and why he says trumps executive orders make the country less safe. plus we will ask our sunday panel between the escalating battle between the president and the press. >> there very dishonest people. the media is very dishonest. one all right now on "fox news sunday." >> chris: hello again from fox news in washington. donald trump's first week in office is ending in controversy and widespread protest. federal judges have now stepped into temporarily blocked part of mr. trump span on people coming to the
muslim nations. some of the travelers caught in the band were about to be deported back to their home countries. in a moment, we will have a sunday exclusive when we sit down with counselor to the president kellyanne conway. but first, let's bring in fox news correspondent rich edson reported from the white house on a president who is charging full ahead. >> rich: the trump white house is expending his executive order for several dominantly muslim countries. this judge has blocked the deportation of those retained in airports as a result of that order. it lets those it into the country and bring response to the rules, the president's executive order remains in place. a prohibited will remain prohibited as the u.s. government retains its right to revoke the visas at any time it's required for national security or public safety. end of the white house, president trump is responding to the criticism. >>
if you see it all over. it's working out very nicely, and we've been having very strict van and extreme vetting. >> rich: the president has also just tweeted that our country needs strong borders and extreme vetting now. look at what is happening all over europe and indeed the world. a horrible mess. the president also continues conversations with foreign leaders. he's already spoken to russian president vladimir putin. the white house said the two discussed topics and efforts to working to achieve peace together throughout the world including syria. united air to emirates, the united arabia and south korea. we also expect to hear it will president trump will choose to serve as supreme court vacancy. that's expected thursday. >> chris: rich edson reporting from the white house. thanks for that.
has done and where he's headed, we're joined now by kellyanne conway, counselor to the president. kelly on, welcome back to "fox news sunday" ." we just heard president trump say it's all working out very nicely, but in fact as we've seen, there are protests across the country, and now federal judges have stepped in to at least temporarily block deportation of people who had come in who are banned from coming in under his order. shouldn't that have been worked out before this order went into effect? >> kellyanne: the judge in brooklyn this day of order really doesn't affect the executive order at all, because the executive order is preventing, not detaining. we're talking about 225,000 people from overseas came into this country just yesterday through our airports. 325,000, talking about 300 and some who have been detained or are prevented from gaining access to an aircraft in their
home country. that's 1%. i think in terms of the upside being greater protection, our borders, our people, it's a small price to pay. i am told by the officials that anyone who is being detained if they are no further threat, if they are not dangerous to the country, they can expect to be released into course, as most of them have already. >> chris: so the ones that are here will be allowed, if they are vetted, to stay. >> kellyanne: the the people who came an aircraft? yes. there's a screening process that will go through. if they're not dangerous, if they are not a threat, then they will be -- situations will be handled on a case-by-case basis. i was stopped many times after 9/11. i didn't resemble, or share a name with any kind of conspiracy, but this is what we do to keep the nation safe.
circumstantial in terms of whether you are one of those 300 and some are trying to get on an aircraft. >> chris: president trump says if we let refugees in with, the questions will be given priority. >> chris: if you are a muslim, you can come in. but if you are a christian, it was almost impossible. i thought it was very, very unfair. so we are going to help them. >> chris: first, that's not true. donald should take a look at this. as you can see her in 2016, almost as many christian refugees were admitted as world muslims. second, president trump is borrowing people from seven countries, the ones that you see on the mat, but not included are saudi arabia, egypt, afghanistan, and pakistan. in saudi arabia is where most of the 9/11 attackers came from. why are they not on the list?
>> kellyanne: this list of seven countries was offered by president obama and his administration. hold on. in 2015, congress passed the terrorist prevention act. and what it essentially dead was identified seven countries and identifying them as a threat. these are countries that have a history of training, harboring, exporting terrorists, and one thing that is very important to recognize whether you are -- the orlando shooter, was born here, but he went abroad. san bernardino, the son of them in boston. these are people who traveled abroad, they were radicalized, they train, and then they came back. it's no different really than what's happening all across the u.s. we can't just keep on looking at a way of pretending there are people out there. there's a terrorist organization.
>> chris: the specific question i'm asking you is saudi arabia, for instance, that's where the 9/11 hijackers came from. why not block them? >> kellyanne: congress and president obama's administration came up with a list of seven. we are following on that in week one. this president will certainly keep identifying threats and risks. people can't have it both ways with president trump. the can on the one hand safe he's not taking his breathing seriously when he is. he has the daily briefing. he is privy to information. the media, the political media aren't national security intelligence experts receiving briefings every single day like our president is. congress has information. the rest of us do not. when we make it clear, the seven hundreds, what about the 36 majority muslim countries that are not included? it undercuts this nonsense that this is a muslim fan. trying to prevent terrorists in this country fm
have a recent history of training and exporting and harboring terrorists. >> chris: the president also got into a riff this week with mexico, after he signed an order calling for construction of a wall and insisted that mexico was going to pay for it. we got this from mexican president peña. speak out mexican does not wall walls. i've said time and time again. >> mexico will not pay for any well. >> chris: and then he canceled his visit this week. >> kellyanne: it was mutual. the president suggested first on twitter. about nine: :24:00 a.m. >> chris: if not go that one of our closest allies, immediate labor to the south, they have a meeting scheduled for tuesday. >> kellyanne: it's a great thing. it's not g
here's what's not a great thing, it's not great that we have a $50 billion trade deficit with mexico. there is no border, there is no respect of our sovereignty in this country. there are no people and drugs coming over that border. >> chris: that is an overstatement. we have no border and that there is no respect for our country. >> kellyanne: it's an overstatement to say that there are not illegal immigrants, people, and drugs coming over the border. go to the average parents who have lost children to opiate us use. it's discouraging, the idea that we just allow drugs to flow across our border and we look the other way. he ran on this, it's been a centerpiece. signed executive order so we could do a couple things. to start construction of the physical wall, and he also in that executive order has expanded the resources and tools that he will give our brave men and women in law enforcement -- they simply can't do their jobs.
>> chris: you're answering a question i'm not asking. the question is trying to work out a relationship with mexico that doesn't so affect the mexican president that he has to cancel the meeting and where relations with the u.s. become a matter of national honor. and i want to raise the issue of a possible trade war, which is now being raised between mexico and the u.s. i want to put up the practical implications of that. mexico is our third-largest trading partner. if we slap a border tax on their imports, and 20% is the number that's been mentioned by people in the white house, u.s. consumers will have to pay more for such things as cars and fresh food and 6 million u.s. jobs will depend on trade with mexico will be hurt if we tax our exports to them. in addition, if they go into a recession, they will have more illegal immigration. has that all been thought through? >> kellyanne: they may try, but that's it they
the past because of president trump -- but what you're saying about about the 20% tariff, that's one possible option, as we have said at the administration, it's one possible option. let me go back to the major point about our relationship with mexico. >> chris: i'm asking you a question about a possible trade were. isn't that a dangerous thing if we are slapping taxes on their imports and they are on our imports and does that destabilize mexico both politically and economically? i'm not saying we shouldn't build a wall or protective order, i'm just saying that the good way of working it out and is a bad way of working it out. >> kellyanne: if there's a fundamental fairness that donald trump ran on and will execute as president of the united states. dakota and keystone pipelines. he's telling mexico that this trade imbalance tops. this idea that we are only worried about the other country. this president says america first 65%.
>> chris: if some of us have to pay more, it's going to effect this government. if we use some of the 6 million jobs, it's going to affect this country. if they have a recession and moral delinquents come in, it will affect this country. >> kellyanne: there's no question. remember, this whole nonsense that donald trump is president does not want a relationship with mexico. he's been one of the candidates whose accepting the invitation to go to mexico during the campaign. he and hilary talked by phone. look at how many foreign leaders president trump talk to just as we can. it's a dizzying number. russia and france, and australi australia, and they will continue to talk. what people have to realize the number one source going into mexico and mexicans in the u.s. going back to mexico. this man
what he promised all along. he will put america first and he will keep its workers, its safety, its allies, its interest. >> chris: a couple other issues as we have the time. president trump says he will announce the supreme court nominee this week. can you guarantee that his nominee will favor overturning roe vs. wade? >> kellyanne: i can guarantee that the promise that president trump made will continue as president, that he is a pro-life president, and he will promise that he will appoint pro-life judges including the supreme court. here's the thing about the supreme court battle we are about to face. the way the democrats in the senate have pretreated our cabinet nominees does not bode well. it's just been terrible at the way they try to humiliate and embarrass our cabinet nominees. the secretary of commerce, the secretary of treasury. >> chris: i'm going to bring that up with durbin in the next section, i promise you. what i
you spoke at the march for pro rata life rally on friday and you said this is a time of incredible promise for the pro-life movement. i don't have to tell you, they don't want promise, they want roe vs. wade overturned. will the president nominates someone committed to doing that? >> kellyanne: it will come up in the hearings. it's not so much about the commerce clause or about extra territoriality. let me tell you about the action. >> chris: for those hundreds of thousands of people who were out there on the mall who you said this president hears you, is he going to appoint somebody wants to overturn roe vs. wade? >> kellyanne: he will appoint somebody respects the constitution, and i haven't heard of the numbers since 1973. it's a word you haven't heard because nobody dare use that word. >> chris: the explanation for how roe vs. wade. >> kellyanne: look what
we had loads of innocent babies taken from their mothers. we are having a culture that does not respect life from conception to natural death and this president gave this manhattan billionaire, impassioned dissent that anybody had ever heard coming from a presidential podium. selection abortions. >> chris: i don't mean to interrupt -- we are running out of time and i want to ask about one other issue, and that is the president's relationship with the press. it is what he had to say about that this week. speak of the media, much of the media, not all of it, is very, very dishonest. honestly, it's fake news. it's fake. they make things up. >> chris: chief strategist stephen bannon went much further. if the media should be embarrassed and humili
listen for a while. but he wasn't finished. the media has zero integrity, and zero intelligence and no hard work. we are the opposition party, not the democratic party, you are the opposition party. kelly and, do you understand how offensive that is? >> kellyanne: it should never be i understand how offensive it is that donald trump should never be taken seriously to run for president. >> chris: a lot of us reported on it fairly, and that's a different issue. >> kellyanne: no, it is the issue. you can't put a piece of tissue paper between the way donald trump was covered as the republican candidate, the republican nominee, the president-elect, and the president. it's all the same. it's an anti-trump screen. it's completely different spectacle to the offices of the president. >> chris: i'm not asking about policies today. i asked about mexico. those are legitimate questions. >> kellyanne: not every network and er
is created equally in this, but if you replete this 23, that would never pass editorial muster in a newspaper or on your tv show or the network here. so the idea -- 10:45 a.m. >> chris: must to the dismay of some of the people at fox, i don't wait. if i may to the real point, politicians complain about bad press. i think you have some legitimate complaints about that press. the first amendment protects the press. it's in the constitution, and it's offensive, quite frankly, you have any politician, but folks who have been in the white house or a weak lecture us about what we should and shouldn't do and that we should keep our mouth shut. >> kellyanne: what he's saying is why don't you talk last and listen to america more. let me tell you something, the media failed to learn america. donald trump prove
which is he understood america. the idea that -- >> chris: zero integrity, and that we shouldn't keep our mouths shut is offensive. >> kellyanne: let me just say something else. it's the way that everything -- by the media coverage it's easy to detect. but such an elite rejection of election. establishment, the elite, all rejected -- it turns out that a heck of a lot more of them were not good. why is that relevant? is relevant because -- who is cleaning house? the people who think things were just not true, it happened last week. i went on three network shows and spoke for 35 minutes on three network sunday shows. the fact that i said alternative facts, not the fact that i ripped a new one that they never cover the facts that matter.
the women in poverty, the 12.4 million who have no health insurance. the billions of dollars we have spent on a nation on public education. they fail them. they protect their intelligence and prepare them for the world that you educate. they shouldn't be restricted. they should be lifted up. this is a colossus failure, and nobody wants to talk about that. there's no question that when you look at the contributions made by the media, many contributions, they went to hillary clinton. not one network person has been let go. not one political analyst and pundit who talked smack all day long about donald trump has been let go. they are on the news every day. was the first editorial -- the first that will be left out that embarrassed him at outlets. they know who they are, and they alwi
the election was a week ago. none of them have been let go. if the new stream media where the private sector business that was thriving and actually turn a profit, which is not true, 20% of the people would be gone. they embarrassed, they failed to protect their shareholders and the board members and their colleagues. and yet we deal with him every single day. we turn the other cheek. if you are part of team trump, you walk around with these seeping wounds every day, that's fine. i'm here every sunday morning. i haven't slept in a month. but with the free press comes responsibility. and responsibility is to get the story that may not be easy to detect. complete coverage, impossible to detect. the media are not giving us complete coverage. president trump has signed all the executive orders this week. he's met with these heads of state. he's done so many things to stimulate the economy, to create jobs. where's the coverage?
>> chris: we are going to have to leave it there. >> kellyanne: it's been fun. >> chris: let me say, you didn't rip me a new one. >> kellyanne: is not at all. >> chris: thank you very much. up next, the follow-up for president trump's executive order on immigration. we will interview the the democrats' number two senator dick durbin.
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people from larger muslim countries who can come in. here is what the president had to say this week. >> i'm establishing new vetting measures to keep radical islamic terrorists out of the united states of america. we don't want them here. >> chris: your reaction to the federal judges stepping in and stopping and eats possible deportation and your reaction to what you've just heard from kellyanne conway? >> dick: well think good that this brooklyn federal drug has tried to stop these executive orders. if you are three things wrong. first, it was an impulsive move by the president, without follow-through to the department of homeland security. when we contacted the border protection at the airport, they said they just sprung this on us. and now with the training people, some of them are legal permanent residents. they didn't have clear guidance from the administration about how to make this work. number two, going after these
vetted visitors to anyone who comes to our airports, including this ban on syrian refugees when we have had no examples, not one, of a syrian refugees engaging in terrorism in the united states. and the third point, and i think this is one that's going to haunt us for a long time was the suggestion by the president that somehow we are going to favor christians, and in some cases banning muslims in the future. that is exactly the opposite message we will send to our allies and those who want to do us harm around the world. >> chris: the president points -- there's no question as kellyanne conway pointed out that there have been messed up this weekend, but on the larger issue of what he's doing, the president points out that there are islamic radicals, some of them refugees who have committed terror acts in europe. there was at least one person who came in on a visa program was involved in the terror attack in bernadino. he says i'm the one protecting e
>> dick: i can tell you that i can't stand up for any european standard when it comes to refugees. i can when it comes to the united states. they go through vetting of a year or two. we have one syrian refugee family that is in turkey and a refugee camp waiting four or five years to come to the united states and because of president trump's executive order, they've been stopped. these are carefully vetted. if you meet these people, chris, you realize why we do this. >> chris: since these people are so carefully vetted, what's going on her? >> senator dick: if you ask me what's going on in europe, i can tell you. >> chris: i'm asking you what you are going on in with trump? >> senator dick: he has established a target of refugees, and i don't think that is our moral virility. if you want to make america safe, the refugee program is the most carefully vetted program in our government. think of the thousands who come in our visa and atomic visa waivers. think of so
into the united states. serious questions need to be answered, but when it comes to refugees, these children who are coming from war-torn zones, we will stop them from coming to this country? what does it say about us? what does it say about our vigilance when it comes to keeping this country safe when we target children? >> chris: i want to take you back to a moment in the white house this week when president trump met with union leaders and doug if the president of the united brotherhood of carpenters. he said this. >> the address on friday was a great middle-class -- for the people that have been hurting. it was a great moment for working men and women. >> thank you. >> chris: he endorsed hillary clinton during the campaign, but he now says, and a lot of those other union bosses say it's president trump, not the democrats were looking out for workers. >> senator dick: i tell you this, the
trades, doug reflected that popularity. president obama knew it when he went the other way, that they would be unhappy with him. but i will tell you this as well, in the long haul, when it comes to the organizing rights, when it comes to the wages paid to union members, when it comes to collective bargaining, it will be the democratic party that will be fighting for supreme court justices and federal judges who recognize that. traditionally, that's where we've been, and the republican party on the other side. >> chris: we are now nine days into this presidency at the equivalent point back in 2009, 12 of president obama's nominees had been confirmed. at this point, only four president trump's nominees have been confirmed. isn't this just obstruction by the democrats? >> senator dick: definitely not, and the reason is this. eight years ago when obama came up with his nominees for the cabinet, by january 8th, before january 20th swearing at some of these nominees
required to file. in this case, with the trump nominees, even after the day of the hearing, many of our committees were not receiving the required legal documents from these nominees. second, among these nominees are many billionaires and people with extensive financial holdings. when penny was nominated for an secretary of commerce under president obama, it took six months to clear all the ethical standards that had to be met and filings met before she could be considered. so here, trump nominees saying they have a lot of money and a lot of unanswered questions, but we want to push forward to the front of the line. we have the obligation to make sure they answer all the questions. >> chris: there are controversial nominees and they may need more scrutiny, but let's look at some of the mainstream nominees. elaine chao. she's already been confirmed for a job before. the wife of senator mitch mcconnell. rex tillerson, jeff sessions, who has been a colleague of yours in the s
time. isn't the president entitled to have his mainstream, noncontroversial picks quickly? >> senator dick: senator mcconnell has held that calling them. we are ready to call them, you've mentioned a few. i'll say this, i'm voting for elaine chao. i've known her for years. we disagree politically, but she's a good person. >> chris: you might ask senator mcconnell that question. we've been ready to take her name up for some time. rex tillerson is up this week. when it comes to senator sessions, you will be heard before the judiciary committee this week in the normal course of events like other nominees, and when i add that when loretta lynch went to the nomination process, after her hearing, senator sessions and sent her an additional questions and then she was held on the senate calendar for two months before a vote was actually taken. we're doing our jobs and we're doing due diligence. >> chris: let's go to o
have another nominee that you will have to consider this weekend is president trump's supreme court nominee. there has only been one nomination for the supreme court that has ever been filibustered in the history of this nation, back in the 1960s. are you prepared to roll out a democratic filibuster of this nominee? >> senator dick: let me just say, i will not jump ahead and tell you how i'm going to treat any nominee until i know who they are, what they stand for. what would set is that if you bring us a moderate nominee and i told the white house this directly -- >> chris: not all of barack obama's choices were moderate nominees. you want with some pretty liberal nominees there. he was allowed to have his philosophical stripe. >> senator dick: mitch mcconnell said we just want to be treated the way we treated obama nominees. it does he think we have
amnesia? to meet with or should have a hearing on a supreme court nominee. we will treat this nominee fairly, but we need to know who he or she is, what they stand for, and believe that they are the mainstream of thinking when it comes to the american political thought. >> chris: senator durbin, thank you for being with us. please come back, sir. up next we will bring in our sunday group to discuss president trump's extreme vetting plan and that phone call with russian president putin.
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>> the world is a mess. the world is as angry as it gets. you think this is going to cause a little more anger? the world is ending replace. >> chris: president trump defending his plan for what he calls extreme vetting of some people coming -- trying to come from the u.s. it's time now for our sender group. g.o.p. strategist karl rove. charles lane of "the washington post," julie pace, who covers the white house for the associated press, and dana perino, cohost of the five. what do you make of the president's order restricting people coming into this country from largely muslim nations and the federal judges getting involved? >> he promises during the campaign extreme vetting. i think people might have been surprised. they might have been led to believe that rather than the issue of -- they didn't expect him to turn back people that had
visas. including people who had green cards, and that's how the federal judges got involved. >> chris: you have a green card, you are a permanent resident in this country. you've gone and the trip someplace else, now you can't get back in. >> for you have received a visa approved by the united states government and the recent past and you got an airplane and showed up at the airport and suddenly that visa, which have been audited and given to you by the united states government is no longer valid. >> chris: donald trump will say too bad. >> you could cause irreparable harm, in fact, one of the first people who had such a visa and was stopped if somebody who worked for the u.s. government interacts with the last ten years. the president is following through on his committed, commitment. he wants the secretary of the homeland security and the secretary of state in the next 30 days to come up with the information they need in those two plus the director of national
next 60 days to come up with a plan for extreme vetting. suspend the issue of any new visas. rigorously modify anybody who comes in. in 90 days, we will have a completely plan that we can then begin initiating newbies. >> chris: at this point, i guess he got something like 300 people who were in limbo at u.s. airports. what's the fallout both politically and legally here? >> whatever it is, it's entirely self-inflicted. this is all avoidable. they put this thing together without a full interagency process. they put it together obviously without thinking through the green card angle and all its potential ramifications. and they produced an order that is a lose, lose, lose for them. it's not even a full muslim venue promised that one point. this is a sort of climbdown
something overinclusive in that it brings in the green card people and underinclusive in that it leaves out a number of countries such as pakistan or afghanistan from whence terrorists have come. so obviously, there's huge uproar on the democratic side. that was protectable. the very interestingly, i count at least three republican senators who voiced concerns about how this thing has worked out. it's not even entirely clear that he's going to have unified republican support behind this thing unless he can clean it up very quickly. >> chris: dana, you worked for a president who famously, and in a concentrated way, made the point we are at war with terrorists, we are not at war with muslims. do you worry that this ends up changing that message? >> it's important to point out that it's a moratorium, not a fan. there is time to figure it out. it's not a permanent thing. i also
responses today and the explanation, like from kellyanne conway earlier on the show, helped explain more about the decision-making process. and when they say that president obama was the recommendation. i call that an ounce of prevention. how can you explain things more, because what we found, and i think president obama to is that you can get everyone to agree with the decision, but you should be able to get them to respect the decision-making process. and i think the trump administration would be well served if it explain things a little bit more on the front end to avoid confusion on the back end so that more of those stories that kellyanne conway was talking about, reporting about the good stuff will get more play. >> chris: i'm beginning to call these trump sundays, because i prepare the show on saturday and by sunday morning the world has changed. what i will talk about with you, julie, the president's phone call with russian president putin yesterday. highly anticipated, so much
to lower expectations. >> boudin and russia, i don't say good, bad or indifferent. i don't know the gentleman. i hope we have a fantastic relationship. if that's possible, and it's also possible that we won't. we will see what happens. >> chris: have you learned anything. the white house has not been very forthcoming publicly. about how the call went. this talk about lifting sanctions with kellyanne conway, she said it was under consideration. >> the call was pretty brief. >> chris: we got more information from the kremlin. >> the crime and is actually very skilled at putting out briefings faster than the white house in more detail. the sanctions did not go off in the course of this conversation. there was a lot of talk about security issues, particularly
common foe. i think that you should look at this 30 day review at the president has asked the pentagon to do. strategies for a possible coordinating more. the idea of the sanctions didn't come up in this phone call. it will ease the anxiety you are saying. a lot of republicans on capitol hill were worried that the president, when he has to make a decision very quickly on the sanctions involving ukraine could look to make a deal with russia and back off and say -- back off the sanctions that obama imposed. >> chris: he looked straight in the eyes and vladimir putin felt a sense of his soul. as we know, that didn't work out very well. how do you think this relationship -- do you think trump can somehow charm or attainment vladimir putin? >> i thought that trumps
was with his press conference where he talked about good bad or indifferent, i don't know, which is actually true. he's not sure. the obama administration of the famous reset button. >> chris: 's that didn't out either. >> so american presidents want to have good relations with countries all over the world, and then it's really up to the president or the counterpart to put their actions. whether there was more interference, i think there was more -- i think donald trump will appreciate that vladimir putin had national interests of his own. he doesn't want to be friends with us because he is a friendly guy. he wants something from us, and it might be something that varies, maybe not with our national interest rates might have to back off a little bit. >> chris: we have to take a break here. when we come back, we will discuss the upcoming showdown over the supreme court. will democrats use the filibuster to drop president trump's nominee? plus, what would you like to
>> would never had a supreme court justice filibuster, but there's a chance that might happen. would you want mitch mcconnell to use the nuclear option? >> chris: president trump is telling sean hannity he's ready to pull out all the stops to get his supreme court nominee confirmed. there are three supposedly front runners. three federal circuit court judges. any sense as to the pecking order of those three, the likelihood, and as soon as
nuclear option, changing the roles, mitch mcconnell immediately pushed back and said that the senate's call. >> would soon judge prior to fall a little bit bottom. he's one that has been talked t to. when you talk to democrats and republicans, he has a's extremely conservative track record, but he's been in the mix, certainly. with a lot of people who have been talking to trump. they have been pushing prior. we were talking about this a little bit in the green room, this is someone that i think that democrats might have a harder time using the filibuster against. he is seen as, not a moderate choice, but if you look at his track record, if you would the more acceptable to some people
politics comes into play enormously. given the atmosphere in washington right now, among democrats about the way that they are guarding history. they will look to be really aggressive, anything the trump team can do to put someone in position to actually get approved by the senate will help them out. >> chris: we asked you for questions for the panel and we got a big response on this one. on twitter. what will happen if mcconnell uses the nuclear option, will there be a price? and on facebook, speaking about what julie was just saying, with republicans blocking the nomination, the democrats should block any and all trump nominees, or is this different now? it seems like this is going to be an even bigger political fight than usual. >> it is different. for the last 80 years, no president of the united states has nominated in his final year and seen approved in supreme court any
it has not happened for 80 years. it was to be expected that barack obama was going to be no different than all of his present investors. in fact, joe biden and chuck schumer opposed the nomination. in schumer's case, the approval of any supreme court nominee in the last year and a half and george w. bush is a term of office. biden, no approval in the last year. this is different. but where the democrats trying to obstruct? absolutely. is this going to be a better fight? absolutely. the end of the day it comes down to two things. one is, are there enough red state democrats to save the person who president trump is nominated is acceptable enough to the people in my state that i will pay a price if i turn into a blind obstructionist like they are already making me on the nominees to the cabinet look like. and second of all, if at the end of the day i was a sufficient number of them that they could keep in place, i think mitch
mcconnell, he's absolutely right to say this is the senate's decision. my sense is if democrats harden the line and they get to 5859, 52 republicans and six or seven democrats, but not 28, they might impose the nuclear option. >> chris: just to explain, the democrats change the rules in 2013. you only need a simple majority of 51. the supreme court is still the super majority of 60, so filibuster can still block it. now the question is, will the republicans extend that or be forced to extend that to a republican nominee to the supreme court? i want to turn to another big subject, and i had a big conversation. here's what the president said this week. >> the big portion of the media, the dishonesty, the total deceit and deception, it makes them certainly partially the opposition party. absolutely.
kellyanne conway, stephen banno bannon, in an interview, he went a lot further. zero intelligence, zero integrity. does this make sense for the white house is one of you? >> it does, because i think that they have effectively used the media against the democrats. they were able to say to their base, we have an enemy in the media, and the base agreed, so it helps them a little bit, but i do think that stephen" is very quotable, and i can understand what journalist would be offended by it, but the second one was just give us a shot here. what kellyanne conway said about just doing good reporting. i've been in media relations a long time, it can be very frustrating. the thing is also this, human beings are always going to try to get sugar first. if you give them something
cover, a tweet that seems a little off, they will cover it. they will always do that. if you can just serve the meat and potatoes, message discipline, you won't have so much of the sugar, because everyone is on a sugar high. >> it's important to note thoug though, she spoke about how it's not like other policies. on friday the president signed the order and refugees. it took two hours for the white house to give us the order. it took several more hours to get to the list of countries to them to actually impact, and another full day to get an actual briefing. we are desperate to cover the policies that this president has implemented. they have not been letting us do that. >> chris: let me bring chuck into the spirit of politicians, and i just said complain about bad press all the time. is this different? >> this is the president of the united states declaring the media, which by the way he's not the for
we think we know who's in he's talking about, as the party of opposition. the implication of that seems to be, i don't have to cooperate with them or work with them or respect them or treat them -- and democracy, the opposition is not the enemy. even if you identify someone as the opposition, you sometimes work with them. you talk to them, you compromise with them. you attempt to match what you consider there bad faith with your good faith. it's astonishing about the rhetoric of stephen bannon in all of this. when he sang opposition, what he seems to mean is implacable enemy, and i think that is new. but i just repeat that in a democracy, the opposition is not the enemy. even if it were true that the media is there opposition, that would not be a reason to freeze them out and to treat them with complete hostility.
minute here. do you notice any particular antagonism dealing with this white house back is it different than you've been around for a while at the front row of the white house. is this different? >> it's a little bit different, but i would say that under the obama administration, they also looked at us with some disdain. we also thought that their coverage was unfair. >> it was. absolutely. >> everybody thinks that. i think the difference here is that they don't distinguish sometimes between critical coverage and what actually is fake news. as president, you will get a lot of critical coverage. that's not going to stop. >> chris: thank you panel. see you next time. when we come back, a final word on next week's "fox news sunday "fox news sunday."
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