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. what can i say? at least it's just water in there, good morning, it's sunday, june 25th. >> not raining outside but raining in here because of me. thanks so much for joining us here on fox 5 news on the hill. good to see you again. it is sunday, january -- june 25th >> not january. >> still water on my phone as well. >> going to do a reset >> we're looking at president trump this morning. it has been a busy week as every week of trump administration. he's taken to twitter again this morning, talking about russia. >> a lot yesterday as well. but reports that president vladimir putin has been
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trump seeming to acknowledge that with a tweet yesterday. >> the president going a obama administration this time for knowing about the russian interference three months before the election, president trump saying that president obama did nothing about this. >> he had the information, why didn't he do something about it? he should have done something about it. but you don't read that. it's quite sad. >> former member of president obama's administration responded by twitter. saying, what did trump say when obama admin issued statement early october in russian meddling? he spent weeks calling the election rigged >> joining us this morning is our good friend james doorton from the play action strategies and security expert james. thank you for coming in and talking about this. this has change and morphed. this week the inforti
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the obama administration, what they did know and did not do. from your standpoint, did the obama administration make this worse by not being more proactive about stopping this when they knew something was up? >> the term cyber norm is something we need to get comfortable with. we don't really have cyber norms, we don't have a based policy as the united states how do we handle cyber attacks or intrusions >> the way i heard this described is we do a pretty good job of saying things have happened after the fact. not so good when we deal with these on a case-by-case basis, no overreaching strategy or policy, it's almost like we're trying to put out fires all over the house and we don't have a fire station to deal with the problem in general. >> absolutely putting the wheels on the bus as we're driving, to put a different way. >> that's a pretty good analysis. >> i'm going to start singing songs. let's talk about the fact that the president is saying that -- president obama said that he didn't want to do more because he want want it to appear
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give us a sense based on your expertise how often do we make cyber security and security decisions based on what it appears compared to what is in our best security interest? >> i believe the most famous one that we can talks about the voorhees sent to iran to kind of take those down. i think at this point, again, what is the, you know, kind of the old nuclear thing was everybody was in all hazards approach, if they nuked us, we would them. the u.s. might not talk about it but we have, we all have weaknesses when it comes to cyber. i think as we go along here, president obama obviously dealt with this at the end of his term. it's important to remember that it was the end and that, you know, there was a new president coming in and managing some ises
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going to be a hand-off the same when george w bush handed it off when he was dealing two wars, so i think there's a lot, in there were terms of notifying congress when it comes to cyber offense and activities because trying to establish what are those norms and what is the policy going forward and how do we deal with this? just yesterday, the u.k. was attacked in their parliament with a cyber attack, how does the u.k. talk about that >> we know going back years in this city, members of congress, frank wolf congressman out of virginia, chris smith, current congressman for state of new jersey. had reported they had cyber intrusions. of on their computers on capitol hill. is there anything we can do to stop this other than just complaining about it and telling these other countries not to do it >> i think cyber security opens up a unique issue for the united states in general, it really is
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the us army or navy or a marines defending the country it comes down to the individual and it can be actually be targeted >> seems like a lot of responsibility >> is that what's going on? these countries have given up on the old cold war way of going after each other with tanks and missiles now they're going at each other through data line. >> existence and spying has been something that's a craft since the beginning of time, i think the cyber world open up another opportunity for spying and gathering information. that's why you see campaigns being a targets of a lot of spying >> we're talking about this individual preparation for cyber attacks we just had the attack last week here in the region on the on scalise, congressman scalise. is is there anything we can do? and you talk about individual responsibility, and fear that is many people really do have about terrorism that's, you know, not behind the computer screen >> i think these individual attacks essentially solo suicide attacks you're seeing in paris london and n
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last couple years, these are the soft target attacks we had worried about in the early 2000s. and they seem to be here now, it's really a lot of again, individual vigilantens. we not to have a lot for a lot of people. the big gatherers are easy target >> it's important to point out in regards to the baseball game shooting, the authorities come out and said that that was not -- that was a domestic attack however, that had no foreign ties to any foreign terrorists elements as well. >> james norton, we thank you so much for taking the time. i suspect we'll have you back as we continue to talk about this. >> hope so, appreciate it. >> well, political infighting within the democratic party taken center stage with members of the party calling for house democratic leader nancy pilosi to step down and make way for new leadership while
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shot back >> i listen to my members, i respect my decisions that is made in any caulk, but i'm proud of the unit we've had and my leadership in terms of keeping everybody together and fighting the healthcare bill and house of representatives. that are proud of our success. >> if you think you've heard pilosi things like that, she has. once again to talk about the shake-up, drew litman a political democratic strategist. thank you for coming in. we've been through this before with nancy pilosi. i talked to people that said they never quite heard this, never been in a position with her where she might lose her leadership positio. what are you hearing >> i'm certainly am hearing
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discontent from democratic regulators on and off the hill. i have to say pilosi still has a huge constituency among democrats, looking at the two main things a leader has to do count votes and you look at all the bills she got past when she had a democratic president and she's raised more than half a billion dollars for democrats. no one matches that >> i would argue that the democrats are 100% having an identity crisis and you have one of the newest leaders in the party is bernie sanders, who wasn't even a democrat until he announced he was running for president. what is the solution for democrats that really seem to be in a place that the republicans were in with, you know, trump getting into the race before that, the tea party. what is going to be the future of the party? >> i think i was senator al frank ken's first chief of
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unprecedented was a huge grass roots following that he could activate by e-mail that was people who would petition the government and people who would make small contributions. bernie sanders played that out on a bigger level but if you look at some of the younger senators, mostly progressive senators, al frank en, elizabeth warner, corey booker conventional. with 1.4 million twitter followers and he only been mayor of new jersey. what we're seeing is individual senators with strong profiles are really able to mobilize people. >> can i just >> mayor of new jersey, mayor of newark >> thank you. >> >> one of the things we keep hearing is nancy pilosi is the posted child for better or worse of this party, they ran ads against her in all four special elections andhe
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won. is she becoming a liability as a brand, not so much as a funds raiser is she hurting them by being nancy pilosi somebody the republicans can hang around your neck if you're going to run for office >> i'm going to say no, and part of the reason is, republicans have hung democratic leaders around their neck for as long as there have been leaders to hank it was tip o'neill when he was speaker, newt gingrich rose to the top partily by calling him a fat drunken bum while speaker. ted kennedy. in these elections what's happening in you got trump picking the battlefields. he picked people for his cabinet from seats that he knew would be easy to defend. kansas, georgia, montana, south carolina, barack obama did exactly the same thing, in 2009 and 2010, democrats completely ran the table because they were picking people out of safe seats. that didn't hint what was going to to happen in
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>> drew you seem to pretty much staunchly support pilosi staying in this role. based on your experience and knowledge, quickly, who would be willing to take her on >> tim ryan gotten way out there and tim ryan talked about running for leader before and he represents a very different part of the country and a different sense ability >> ohio >> ohio, more industrial area, and he's really his own person in a lot of ways, tim ryan. democrats eventually are going to have tough choices to make. even if i don't say this publicly. even who don't defend nancy publicly. they need her not just for fund-raising but counting votes. when you have someone in leadership who can't you have chaos and that could be catastrophic. everybody loses, nancy is really good at that. >> we appreciate you coming in, give us a insight on the nancy pilosi soap opera, thank you so much. speculation is brewing that
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kennedy is going to be stepping down. the rumors been around for months, the 80-year-old justice is at the center of a lot of conversation that would give president trump a chance to dramatically reshape the court after all naming his nominee to court >> coming up we're going to take a look at that senate healthcare bill and how it would actually affect you. stay with us. . stay with us. on the front lines of health care, there are always new challenges and opportunities. at unitedhealth group,
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♪ ♪. ♪ ♪. the long quest by the republicans to repeal and replace obamacare still faces a very steep hill. five republicans senators now come out against the bill. >> the gop senators opposed to the bill will make it hard for the bill to get passed. republicans can only afford to lose two votes for the bill to pass. president trump is speaking out on fox this morning about the beverage >> healthcare is a very tough thing to get. but i think we're going to get it. we don't have too much of a choice because the alternative is the dead caucus of obamacare. that's what it is. >> it's an interesting analogy pthere, the dead carcass? is that what he said? he uses dramatic language. we're expecting the congressional budget office to
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analyze this bill and tell us what's involved. we want to break down some details joining you say to do that is professor susan wood from georgetown university this morning, thank you for coming in. it's george washington, when we look at this, in comparison to the house bill, i heard people tell me that this was like a low calory version of the house bill, and that was dramatically unpopular in a lot of circles. is this a less intensive version of a wildly unpopular bill or is this something dramatically different from what the house had come up with? >> it's a bit of both. it's certainly not obamacare light. which is what i believe the low calory version you're talking about. in fact, it does dramatic things, long goals of conservatives where are being slid in with guise of
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replace the affordable care act. so there will be dramatic changes >> one of the key tenants is the idea of block grants to states. my question for you is how different, we have viewers in virginia, maryland and the district. when you're talking about states taking a much bigger opener role in healthcare than we've seen, what potentially healthcare be dramatically different across state lines? is that something we can predict? >> i think what, you know, they're arguing this would provide more flexibility but what in reality it dramatically cut the funds available to states to provide everything from you know, sort of basic infrastructure for healthcare, whether it's safety net hospitals or their medicaid program for senior citizens and the disabled and nurses homes, and kids and pregnant women. these are significant and dramatic cuts over time, that will squeeze states to cut out things like
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treatment or cutting for nursing homes or general coverage under the state medicaid program. other programs will change as well in terms of the benefits you get and those will vary by state. depending on what they feel is important to their health insurance system, benefits or preventive services >> we keep hearing from people that both of these bills, we heard from the president a moment ago. he uses very dramatic terms to describe what's going on. he calls it a dead carcass, whatever that mean, there are real things going on here. anthem pulled out of indiana and wisconsin and there are other health insurance plans pulling out of states. so aside from the politics of what's going on, how bad is this out there in the country right now that these companies are pulling out of these obamacare >> i believe it's being overstated. mr. trump is prone to overstatement. >> you can't overstate the leaving
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further instability. what we need to be doing is, we need to be strengthening stability, and there are ways to do that. but most states are still having plans come in. it is still a good business to be in. the insurance private insurance industry. and we're still seeing companies succeed. so i think, you know, with support, and stability, we can maintain what we have and yes, make improvements. but it is not either the did he do carcass or the falling apart situation that people are overstating >> unfortunately one of the challenges when you have five republicans, they're not all on the same page about why they oppose this. if you moderate it on one end you'll anger the conservatives >> exactly. >> thank you for being with us, >> susan wood from george washington university. next up, president trump is taking to twitter. we'll talk about social media and how this folds into the president's communication style, when we come back f 5
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. you can't stuff. touch donald trump's twitter. that's how he communicates directly with the american people >> that's why his tweets caused a lot of co-and in some cases some say it works against the president in his efforts, top white house officials
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we've heard that before and it doesn't seem to be going so well >> joining to his speak about the president's communications style, kelly fr ager, an it can it consultant and social media expert. >> kelly you and i were chatting in the green room. where -- the civility in the white house press briefing room if we're talking about communications there seems to be fault both sides of that room. fault on the part of the press and fault on the part of the press secretary. >> yes, absolutely. i think that as we look at this, it only takes one person. and the one person can bring people up or can pull people down, we never want to get into an argument because a passerby will never know which one was the original fool >> the viewer in this case. >> that's absolutely right >> the thought on this though: when the president goes on his twitter account, he's get
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him riled up about things they already agree on, they also use it as a strategic weapon. is there value in that, that you now have a direct line to talk to the people, who are intere interested in what you have to say and maybe cut through some of the noise because there's 1,000 channels on cable television and media internet sites. this gives any president, not just donald trump, an ability to talk directly and have almost a personal conversation with the people who he wants to get to >> you've said exactly what president trump has advocated for which is twitter is his way of having honest and unfiltered communication. however, he's communicating as president of the united states which is powerful diverse country, when he took office as president, i think that, you know, that is something that he needs to be consider it of in terms of being thoughtful and respectful >> you
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to move a little bit away we're looking a an election in virginia and when you look at campaign ads. of they get ugly and people respond to that. is there a place for etiquette in politics or is the effective way to be nasty >> i don't think it's a way. i think that whether you call it etiquette or civility, it's a way for us to communicate with each other from place of kindness and courtesy and respect i think that we can all do that as individuals in our worlds >> there's a bit of a damned if you do and don't on this. because if donald trump comes out and starts tweeting it is with great respect and honor, everybody would call him a phony. it would come off as inauthentic. how can you be direct and blunt and keep your brand but at the same time not putting people off the way you see and instill etiquette in it >> you can call it etiquette if you'd like but you can still be honest and direct with communication, and he can still, as
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states he can still very much do that and have these unfiltered thoughts but he needs to be thoughtful and use restraints because he's representing a much larger population. >> thank you for being with us. >> thank for having me >> we're always courteous and pilot here on fox 5 >> no, we aren't >> let's look ahead to the week in the white house. this week, tom, it's energy week at the white house, i don't know if you knew that. you may recall the first of these weeks it was infraweek. it didn't get much attention, last week was tech week, are these weeks effective? we know the administration focuses on, you know, coal. he talked about putting solar panels on the wall >> the mere fact you have to tell people what weeks they are tells you it's not working. maybe should stop making weeks. coming up important meetings at the white house, there's going to be a visit from th
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of indiana and south korea all of the news what's going on in north korea will be key meetings in regards to what south korea is doing, how the chinese factor in all of this, and whether or not this president is going to go beyond the fact of calling things out on twitter and calling them as he sees them or roll up his sleeves and get involved with south korea, china and easing some tensions we're seeing in north korea and obviously death of the student warmbier enraged a lot of people >> it was a big topic of conversation, how the president will respond. if he will put his money where his mouth is. that's what we're looking to. >> five republicans still as we stand this morning on sunday coming out in opposition to the president and the senate leaders on healthcare bill we'll be tracking that. mitch mcconnell would luke to have a vote some time by early july. we thank you for joining us. of >> always >> fox 5 news on the hill
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>> brit: i am brit hume in for chris wallace. all eyes are on the senate as republicans unveil the plan to replace obamacare. but do they have a post? republicans believe we have the possibility to add and we are. >> is as bad as the house bill? in some ways it's even worse. we will break them within the senate bill and what it means for you with tom price ahead of health and human services. opposites within the republican party, , and the bill actually pass? speak out the intention is not to take down the bill, it's to make it better. >> i want to get to yes in the way to get to yes is to fix the unde


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