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>> i am chris wallace. republican senators at the last chapter to end obamacare. >> if you are bernie believer, this is your worst nightmare, to take money and power out of washington. >> it is a little tougher without john mccain. it was a little tougher, but we have some time. >> chris: we will discuss the 11th hour effort with marc shor marc short, the white house legislative affairs director. then president trump re-ignites a racial controversy, now with black pro athletes including those who kneel during the national anthem. >> even if it is one player, leave the stadium. i guarantee you can't think
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stop. pick up and leave. >> chris: will ask our sunday panel what it means for the president relations with minorities. plus our exclusive interview with bill gates. on his foundation spending millions on global health. >> a child and africa is a hundred times more likely to die than a child in the u.s. or europe. >> chris: and our power players of the week. some of the innovators that are finding ways to deliver life-saving vaccines to the world's poorest children. hello again from fox news and washington. we will get to president trump is confrontation in a few minutes. the clock is ticking on republican leaders deadline next sunday to dismantle obamacare and keep their promise to conservative voters. the bill needs 50 votes plus a tiebreaker from
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expecting to come from democrat democrats. this the majority took a big hit when senator john mccain announced he is a "no." president trump attacking him and other senators who bear opposition. joining me now to discuss where things stand is marc short, the white house legislative affairs director. welcome to "fox news sunday." is this latest effort to replace obamacare helping? >> we are days away from a final vote, and we're trying to win over the alaskan senators to get there. as you know, there's no democrat support for it. the last time in the senate the vote of 52, we need 49. all 48 democrats oppose. we need to make sure these last couple of republicans are john mccain, lisa murkowski, susan collins, and rand paul. that is a victory. >> chris: john mccain is unknown. are you expecting rand paul is a "no"?
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particular on health care. we want hit support, because when else would he get the opportunity to vote on a bill that actually provides real entitlement reform? when will be get a chance that doubles the ability to double to your health savings account. when we get rid of the individual, employer mandate, and those are things that are important to rand paul. this administration stood for life, in this per protects life. he can say it, i protect life and instead, i went the other way. >> chris: rand paul has made it clear, he wants to repeal obamacare. he says the bill doesn't leave a lot of obamacare including all of the taxes in place. he calls it obamacare-lite. >> the support that rand paul has given, we support as well. there was a vote
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repeal measure that failed 45-55. the president said he would have supported it, but our choices are to continue obamacare, continue crushing the american people with higher premiums, less coverage, what is the option of a new path? you have covered the amount of rate increase arizona, alaska 200%. half the country has one insurance left. next year, it is always delayed. an extra, new taxes will be in place, everybody who has a health care plan gets another tax added on. >> chris: let's assume they mean what they say, and john mccain and paul are "no's." there's a number that are committing like susan collins, and here's what president trump said on friday. >> the most will be our art one or two votes. you cannot quit when
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one or two votes. they will not be liked by the communities they come from. >> chris: you have one week left. you have until next saturday. are you going to change the bill to try to persuade some of these uncommitted to come back, and if so, how will you specifically change at the bell the last few days. legal we have continued to talk to various senators but ways to refine the formula. we have to do is take dollars out of washington, d.c., and sending it out to the states. how each state gets those resources is trying to protect that for me. we will to continue to have conversations with susan makowski to make it has proven to be a disaster. we want to look back to the states, which is why we think every state is a winner, including maine, alaska, because their governments have the ability -- >> chris: 34 states get less money than
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about 13 or 14 get more. i want to go to the merits of the bill. late-night tv house jimmy kimmel has been a big part of this debate. after he talked about the fact that his son needed major heart surgery. he said one of the bills sponsors, the graham-cassidy bill. cassidy is misleading what is in the bill. here he is. >> he says he wants coverage for all, no discrimination based on pre-existing conditions. lower premiums for lower class families, and no lifetime caps. guess what, the new bill does none of those things. >> chris: marc? graham-cassidy does none of those things. >> no, bill cassidy is of dr. become his wife is a doctor, they know how they structured this. bill cassidy is exactly right. his chris, it is not a level
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field. -- >> chris: 34 states. >> florida and texas get less than 10%. it is not equitable now, -- >> chris: because states are very few to expand medicaid paired that was a decision. 34 states will lose money. >> that is not accurate. when you actually distribute the dollars, based on population, do our states that the obamacare already made winner or loser's. we are leveling out the playing field. that is not what i am saying here. >> chris: they are getting less money than they would have from obamacare and the reason they are going to get less is because -- is not that obamacare chose winners and losers, it was at the state chose. they decide whether to go going with obamacare or not. i want to press on this point of pre-existing conditions. the republican bill says states can get away, put it up on the screen. states can get away from obamacare protections if they explained to federal bureaucrats
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access, and a key phrase, adequate and affordable health insurance coverage for individuals with pre-existing conditions without ever explaining what adequate and affordable coverage is. in the very next page, the graham-cassidy bill says, yes, states can increase premiums for people with pre-existing conditions. that is a loophole large enough to drive a tank through. >> those are two separate questions. do you want washington, d.c., choosing all the rates across the country. that is a different question. the bill guarantees pre-existing conditions. >> chris: it does not. it says that all they have to do is get a federal waiver it that they have adequate and affordable coverage without explaining what that is. that is not a guarantee. >> adequate and affordable coverage will be guaranteed. it's built what does it mean
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>> that is a separate question. you want washington, d.c., dictating across the country what those rates are for everybody regardless -- >> chris: what good is coverage if you cannot afford it? >> because you are having support to the state so they can make sure those states have rates stay low. even those with pre-existing conditions. we went >> chris: it says states can raise premiums for pre-existing conditions without any guidelines. if there is no question that is going to be higher in some states than it was under obamacare. >> darr going to be some states higher, some states lawyer. give states that are higher, you're out of luck. the vast majority of americans are going to benefit from having lower cost. does that mean every individual has a lower premium. that is not what washington, d.c., is doing. >> chris: i am going
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to another subject. congressional republicans are rolling out your tax reform plan this week. i want to ask you about two specific items. senate republicans have agreed to a tax cut that would amount to $1.5 trillion in lost revenut three years. what happened to the party a balanced budget? >> it is in the white house. to bounce over ten years. this administration continues to be committed to making sure you're being fiscally responsible. >> chris: a tax cut that adds $1.5 trillion to the national debt? >> it allows for a short-term decrease in order to provide growth will bring in more in the long term. there's a large debate between scoring. the dynamic scoring will show much more of significant growth, but that's what not not congress uses.
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short term. we want to see the economy grow it has been struggling for way too long. we need to turn it around. we're going to go by turning away the regulatory states, and we will seat the economy grow with rates. >> chris: the president also said coming wants to cut the taxes in the middle class, not necessarily those for the wealthy, but there is a new report out this month that this plan is going to cut the top rate for 35% why do those of the very top need another tax break? >> we do not think they do. the president is focused on a tax break. >> chris: argued cutting the tax write? >> when you have all the inductions at the wealthy take advantage of. our tax code picks winners and losers. by getting rid of those deductions, people at the higher income will have to pay more taxes. therefore, we are lowering the rate in the inductions were getting rid of. >> chris: 35%?
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the final numbers. >> chris: i want to ask you about this racial controversy the president has gotten into this weekend. i was at the friday rally, where the president went after players like collin kaepernick, who take on the during the national anthem to protest the race relations in the country. >> what you love to see one of these nfl owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, get that son of a [bleep] off our field. he is fired. he is fired! >> chris: and the the president pulled back an invitation for mba when they win a championship , and lebron james treated this. you will come a bum. stefon curry already said he is not going, so therefore, there is no invite. going to white house was great honor
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does the present regret opening the racial wounds after trussville? >> i don't think he is. there are two separate issues all across america nfl players are getting punished for leaving their players and prayer. asking and then the nfl call players who take a knee over a flag that many of our generations proceeded died to pick the freedoms based on martyrs on the media. they have a first amendment right to do that, but nfl owners also have a rectifier those players. happily, let's talk about the curry invitation. he already hosted the cubs, boston tigers, patriots. steph curry is a phenomenal basketball player. he's a role model for young kids. my son wears his jersey around the house all the time. he went to a small school when schools overlook them.
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>> chris: he's one of tn the nba, but he put politics into the invitation to come to the white house. that's what the president reacting to. other national champion teams have come honorably. they're trying to make a political issue. the president said, find it. do not come. >> chris: this obviously has a racial component. these are black players talking about -- these are black players talking about the state of race relations in the country. they are not burning flags. they're not chanting. they're simply taking a knee. you can argue whether or not is the right or wrong thing to do... >> their way to show your reaction without having to do senator flake. i think the president is making the case saying that there are plenty of african-american athletes that he welcomes to the white house. those are the ones who want to make a political issue out of. >> chris: i want to put up one more tweets. this is from the president and a 2013. let's put up on the
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this was the controversy with the washington redskins... so, at a time when you're trying desperately to get votes for health care, at a time when you're rolling out your tax reform, does the president really need to get into a fight with lebron james and steph curry? >> we have a lot of priorities. it is not just health care, a lot of foreign policy issues. i think the president's focus on these issues and continue to make sure the white house is. >> chris: should he take his own advice that he did to barack obama? >> i think you should decide what he is tweeting. there's a lot of people in america that condemns the president's tweets, but they have proven effective so far. >> chris: marc short, thank you for joining us. >> i appreciate it.
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>> when people like yourselves turn on the television and you see those people taking the neat when they are playing our great national anthem... >> chris: waging into a new racial
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condemns players that protest and that during the national anthem. time now for sunday group. g.o.p. strategist karl rove, columnist for "the hill," one hill. julie pace, and kimberley strassel of "the wall street journal" ." opening of the racial controversy since we have seen in charlottesville. mr. trump has kept at it. this is what he tweeted. if nfl fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our flag and country, you will see changes take place fast. fire or suspend. where is is headed? >> you will see more protests today as we go into the nba season, i would not be surprised if there will be some kind of expression there. i am not only going to say from players but from fans who recently in boston, somebody hung a banner that said racism is as am
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it is up platform for the discussion of race in the country. of course, the owners have the right to fire or not higher in the case of kaepernick, however they choose, but for the president of the united state to speak up about firing an espn anchor, now about an nfl player, to diss invite steph curry, it seems to me he is now injecting himself in sports in a way that we have not seen recently. we know about mohammed d that just are made by kaepernick is not popular. he can be affective to a group that thinks kaepernick is wrong. i think that kaepernick is disrespecting the fight for it is not something i would do. but his right and the fact that he is speaking out about something of substance and terms of the relationship between police and the black community, the black lives matter movement. it seems to me that strikes a or
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playing politics in a way that i think is very divisive. it hurts especially after charlottesville. >> chris: i think it is fair to say that mr. trump has gotten some of his lowest ratings in public polls in his handling of race relations during a time that he is pushing it desperately needs to get a win this week on health care, when he will roll out his new tax plan. does he really need to have this? >> this was not the best time to have the fight. he has health care he has to focus on tax reform. we have been seen, he is out there doing this push for tax reform in particular, importance of the role of the president keeping an american in the country focused on the spaghetti behind republican hungers and doing it. that being said , i don't think this is president trump talking about race. this is an issue, 70-30 issue.
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people kneeling and disrespecting the flag. he's talking about this in terms of the flag. >> chris: we are talking about black players making a statement about black and race relations in this country. it is a race issue. >> except, many more people think as disrespecting the flag. yes, i get the racial issue, but as marc short said earlier, either other ways you can voice your disapproval with the racial diss racial issue, but the people empowered to don't. >> chris: people who are protesting, what is a right way to go? >> i am not saying they do not have a right to do it, but the fans are not obliged to like it. and go to the games. and watch tv. >> the president has two very valuable assets, time invoice
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and voice. he wastes things when he talks about things like this. we had an argument over will melt in this fight much to his disadvantage. he is in big demand the middle of two fights. there better ways for the president. i was struck by a line in his in new york last week. at the u.n. he said we aspire to the approval of history. what instead of swearing at them, he said, i understand that you have a right to do this, but we stand and respect our flag, not because of america's imperfections, but because you're constantly as a nation aspiring to the approval of history. we salute the flag, because the struggles and the sacrifices of generations of americans to make this a better country. that is why we stand and salute our flag and why we put our hand over our heart. he could have come away the winter. instead, he is walking away from this loser in the minds of the american people for exactly the reasons you pointed out. he was against the federal government
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telling the washington redskins what their name should be. now he is sane, fire those people if they do not stand and respect the flag. he ought to be an aspirational figure. >> chris: let's talk about health care, which is the real focus is seems to me, and the president stepping on his own message here. here's what the president said friday night about john mccain delivering a real blow to this bill, saying, he will not vote for. >> john mccain, you look at his campaign, his last campaign, was all about repeal and replace, repeal and replace. he decided to do something different, and that is fine. i say, we still have a chance. >> chris: julie, do they have a chance? it was very interesting to me that you had marc short, the man in charge of counting voids, being able to change rand paul's mind, when he
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if it is not repeal, i will not vote, and what potential changes that are being talked about? >> i been hearing that from white house officials. there are three senators on the table, lisa murkowski, susan collins, and rand paul. white house officials think rand paul is the senator they could flip in the next couple days. it is interesting, because he actually has been a hard no, and the others say they are leaning, but rand paul is the one that said, he is been the most forceful. i do think it is hard to see what they could insert in the bill last minute to get rand paul to flood, because his whole point, he does not think this bill fully repeals obamacare. he wants that lot to be completely wiped away. there'd be a lot of changes you'd have to make to potentially switch other senators in the process. lisa murkowski is still on the table, susan collins was out this morning looking like she would be a strong note dennis lim window, and have a lot to do.
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i have 30 seconds. i want to give it to you, kim, this would be a big mistake after seven years, they do not repeal and replace obamacare. >> will not just affect health care either. they will then have another defeat heading right into tax. they will be not unified. it does not bode well for the other priorities. >> chris: we have to take a break. when we come back, if all that was not enough, things get personal between president trump and the leader of north korea. the investigation into russian interference in the 2016 election heats up. plus, what would you like to ask the panel about special counsel robert mueller's probe with people around the president. go to facebook or twitter, @foxnewssunday, and we may use your question.
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>> chris: coming up, president trump imposes new
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have a hydrogen bomb over the pacific. >> we will have no choice but to totally destroy north korea. >> chris: will ask or send a panel about the escalating
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>> we cannot have mad men of their shooting rockets all over the place. rocket man should have been handled along time ago. little rocket man. we are going to do it, because we really have no choice. >> chris: president trump keeps taunting north koreans, kim jong un at a campaign rally in alabama on friday night. we are back now with the panel, and let's give it you the latest on the confrontation with north korea. u.s. bombers flew off the coast of north korea saturday. it is the furthest north over the dmz. they were not overt north
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furthest north in this entry. north koreans foreign minister fired back at president trump at the united nations. here he is. >> trump, a mentally deranged person full of mental mania and the person who chastise even as american people as commander in grief, present evil. >> chris: and president trump tweeted in response, if he, echoes threats of a little rocket man, he will not be around much longer. julie, is our strategy here? >> great question. people at the state department do not find this trade of personal insults helpful, but within the president's circle of advisors, they are pretty willing to let him take this road. they think it shows who will not be cowed by north korea. it shows that he will give a
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he will not back down. does it solve the actual nuclear problem? know, right now we are watching north koreans program move in one direction, gaining capacity, having tests. we see pyongyang will not back down because of new sanctions come from the united states or china. it leaves the trump administration in the exact same condition that the obama administration was at the end of his tenure, looking at china, hoping china takes some steps to tweak the edges but not going full throttle. basically, the administration's stock right now. >> chris: asked kim, how do you feel president trump is handling the threat, this inflated rhetoric. we knew it would come from kim jong un, but not an american president, but the economic situation getting china to tighten the use around north korea. >>
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about the point of the speech, the united nations beach, to get the attention of china and russia. i think he certainly did that. a lot of the attention has been on the -- the goal was saying that there is a new sheriff in town, not the obama administration. if you do not go in and please your own area, then we will do it for you. i think certainly message, that cut across. combined with the new sanctions that we will put in this week. i think the people to watch are in fact china, and see whether or not they get a lot more serious. that is a weak link right now in terms of actually bringing down north korea. >> even though trump is talking tough on military action, when you talk to people at the state department or pentagon, they're candid about the reality of a military option. they do not see that as where this is headed right now. >> chris: another big story and that is how aggressively we find out special counsel
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mueller and the russian investigation. agents and the fbi, picked a lot when they stormed into the office of paul manafort, the former campaign chairman for donald trump. while paul manafort was asleep in his home, and then prosecute prosecutors told him, they plan to indict him. here's what we got on facebook from rhonda, investigations like this can start with one thing and lead to another, but what kind of controls are in place to make sure it is not a witch hun witch hunt? is someone who was the subject in the dash how would you answer her, karl rove? >> in this instance, the fbi had to have a specific permission to pick up the lot, and they had to go before a judge and get a
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action. they basically would have to prove to the judge there's a high expectation that paul manafort, if they knocked on the door, would be destroying evidence. they did not have immediate access, it would be at risk. >> chris: are you cable okay with that? >> i think the judge had to be convinced. let's step back. i don't think the president has expense with collusion. i it is to believe that mueller -- the president can fire anybody. i do think paul manafort and mike flynn have real exposure, not things connected to the campaign. manafort with his work in ukraine and russia influence, and matt flynn having problems taken money from foreign governments. paul manafort is currently in the cross hairs. >> chris: at the thought, if you squeeze
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enough, they won't flip on the president can make >> it is hard to flip because there's nothing. donald trump, jr., i don't think he gets them into legal difficulties, but he is an optics problem they said he took the meeting with the rush and i will give us bad stuff in the mention of russian government officials, but they got nothing out of it. no, i don't think he has to worry. >> chris: here is by how president trump dealt with the russian controversy and a rally in alabama. >> russia did not help me. that i can tell you. any russians in the audience? are there any russians in the audience? i don't see too many russians. >> chris: he knows how to make a speech. >> the odd thing he said, the nfl is having troubles because people are watching me. >> chris: how aggressive is robert mueller pursuing? >> it is very aggressive.
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picking, increase demand for documents from the white house by mueller team. the documents relate to the firing of manafort, flynn, and potential for obstruction of justice in terms of how the description, the blowout on the meeting took place in june at 2016 was handled. you have that, and then you have the white house. maybe this is how you should look at it. they seem concerned, because they have been attacking jim comey's credibility, suggesting because of those documents, he violated confidentiality, and the justice department should go after him. >> chris: to be continued. thank you, panel. up next, our interview with micro soft cofounder, bill gates on his foundation's efforts to save millions of lives. and, we will also find out what kind of smartphone he uses. ♪ ♪
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>> chris: the bill & melinda gates foundation is the world largest private charitable fund. since it started in 2,000, the foundation has given more than $41 billion in grants for public health and development in more than 100 countries, including the u.s. it is no overstatement to say, they save millions of lives. this week while the u.s. general assembly was meeting in new york, the gates foundation tracked how much they've got and to volunteers including world leaders to help reach it's cold out to the yard. ice said i said down with the cofounder it, and the challenges they still face. welcome to boxer sunday. one of the keys to the gates foundation is that you push a business model. a measurable goals, return
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being live to essays. why are those metrics important? >> i have been lucky to my success and the unbelievable generosity. to be at a foundation with my wife, melinda, where we have a lot of resources. it know where near what government hands, by having public standards, we have a responsibility to make sure this money has the impact. we partner with governments, taking on hiv malaria, all of these things that explain the inequity that a child in africa is 100 times more likely to die than a child and the u.s. or europe. >> chris: let's talk about child mortality, because it is such a dramatic and clear example. you do have this chart that shows over the last -- since 1990, the number of people, children under the age of 5 that i have gone from
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5 million. you project into 2013, and you have three different scenarios. explain the significant of those different outcomes, in terms of lives lost or saved. >> this is the first time the aids field has been able to take our progress and track where we are, but also look at the possibilities of where we will be 15 years ahead. we took and set it all the countries that adopted the best practices, the donors stayed very generous in their giving, and innovation going full speed. that is the best case. we take business as usual, and then we take a case where people pull back, where they're saying, they don't care as much about other countries in the deaths and things are. there is less money, less rnd, less best practices, and we showed it is quite a range. >> chris:
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million young people that live or die, specifically the difference in terms of the various scenarios. what is it that wouldn't be getting there if people do not continue to contribute or add to it? >> vaccines, they are fairly expensive, about $10 per child to get vaccinated. it is donor money, the united states and the u.k. been the most generous, dead by those vaccines at the lowest possible price and get them out to all the world's children. the coverage keeps going up and if we can get new vaccines into that mix and get the coverage level, 80%, up to 90%, then we achieve the very best case, were more than a million, less kids might be dying from a 2013. >> chris: that brings us to u.s. government
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president trump wants to cut by almost a quarter in terms of global health funding. what would that mean in terms of either lives saved or live plaza lost? >> hiv, we talked about with the 10%. 5 million deaths. over that time. what happens with an infectious disease, you're either winning by getting less and less people to be infected, and they infect less people or you are losing and in fact, the the age, 16-25, there is twice as many kids now in that population range is a once back when hiv first hit. the miracle of getting those drugs out, if that is not fully funded until we get a
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then the death rate is going to go back up and reach new records. >> chris: in his speech to congress in february, president trump said this. >> america must put its own citizens first, because only then can we truly make america great again. >> chris: in his budget message the president added, it is time to prioritize the security and well-being of americans, and two as the rest of the world to step up and pay its fair share. given that u.s. taxpayers at this point are basically putting up a third of the government funding around the world for global public health, doesn't president trump have a point and is there a case to be made that the u.s. should cut back? >> the united states is not giving percentagewise as much as european countries. the u.k.,
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norway, they give three times as much in a percentage of their economy. >> chris: not total dollars, but a percentage of their economy. >> that is viewed as the fair metric. the u.s. has a huge economy. what we have given is phenomenal. we also fund a lot of the research that is very important in creating these new tools. if we back off from the commitments that were made under president bush, the hiv and malaria work come from his initiatives. it would be tragic to these countries, their stability, for having their health systems stop pandemics early on. people like secretary mattis that said, we cut the development budget, you will have to spend more on bullets
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averting these problems of instability. >> chris: one more question about president trump, you met with him as president-elect in december and again in march just after he had put out his budget and how did those conversations go? >> i had an opportunity in the two meetings that i had come in november and march, to share with him my optimism that innovation in many areas, particularly these global health issues that also on energy and education, but the u.s. can benefit itself an end the world and trying to see if if innovation is something that resonates with him with both domestically. we talk about vaccines, these different programs, and i am hopeful that was enlightening to him. >> chris: it did not have the impact y h
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>> in terms of the first budget that he came up with, no, that was a disappointment for us. taking the medical research budget, nih, bringing that down fairly dramatically. taking the aide program including the ongoing hiv commitment, i was disappointed. >> chris: did he explain it to you? >> i have not seen him since he came out. there was grumbling that that would happen, and he encouraged me to meet with different aids including the office of management of the budget. i do think the administration was new. i don't think they understood how difficult hiv is, what it means if you cut it back. you will have to see both in terms of the acceptance of what congress does and their next budget. i hope that it is much more generous in these areas. >> chris: congress to put money back into the budget. you admit that you
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folks have not done as good a job as you could in making the case for foreign aid. especially in the moral sense it, you have, not necessarily in the practical sense, even in terms of national security. explain why you think this is so important in terms of what you call solvable human misery. >> it is always a challenge when the problem is far away. people do not get to see it. if you so malaria and hiv in the neighborhood, of course, people would volunteer the resources. that is why it is so phenomenal when president bush says these drugs cost $100 a year. the u.s. is going to work to make sure no one dies because they lack those drugs. whether it is instability that leads to migration, like central america not being stable and so that creates huge pressure at our borders, a challenge for everyone, or africa itself, where the
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stability in the world can either be done militarily or by making sure the food and help and education is there. all these countries want to be self-sufficient. they don't come in the long run, want aid. countries like india, are rich enough that they are not a significant aid recipient. brazil, mexico, many countries have graduated. now we need to take the tougher cases. a lot of them are in africa. they continue to uplift them, until they get out of the poverty track. >> chris: we do not get to talk to very much but i'm going to take advantage dual lightning round. quick questions, quick answers. you are the leader of the giving pledge to make billionaires to donate half their wealth to charity to causes like this. how many people have you gotten to sign on and how much money are we talk about? >>
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it is amazing pay and you never expected to get that many. the vast majority are from america, where we spend more time talking to people. they're giving to a huge number of causes, education, scientific research, but we meet and share experiences. we learn from each other, and we want the quality and amount of charity go up. many countries are envious of how strong that tradition is. in the unisys. >> chris: finally, you had odd relationship with steve jobs, what kind of phone do you use? >> the relationship i had with steve had every aspect you can think of, especially in the last few years. our friendship, which has always been there, greatly strengthen as he was dealing with cancer. he had done such wonderful work at both pixar and apple. him and i have a lot in common. we are different in some
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steve was a genius but absolutely amazing. it is great that apple is continuing to do good work. i happen to use all windows based pc's the phone that i have, actually did switch to an android phone with a lot of microsoft software. the competition in the software and i.t. space that steve fostered, it is phenomenal, and microsoft is a big part of that. it has been a miraculous industry that we got to work in. >> chris: no iphone? >> no, no iphone. >> chris: keep up the good work, sir. up next, our power players of the week. is one thing to say, you want to save millions of children, but how do you get life-saving medicine to some of the most remote places on earth? you'll meet the innovators they came up with amazing solutions.
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they are our "power players of the week." >> i am there to keep the temperature. all too often, they find when they get there, the refrigerator is broken, the vaccines are spoken and they wasted their time. these are problems you want to address, we do that by building a better refrigerator. the meta-fridge, and here it is. the first challenge we wanted to address is how to keep that cold when the power is going out. the top of the fridge is actually a device, we wanted to add a phila siphon. inside the fridge, when it is activated, you can see the cold front moving down, and that is keeping he'd been sucked out and moving up through the thermal siphon to a nice eye, or melt the ice over long period of tim time. the thermal siphon technology keeps it at the exactly the right temperature, stably, without any power at all. >> chris: what happens when
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the gates foundation had to find out a way to deliver vaccines to the 50% of children they serve and africa, who live in villages with no electricity or cars. >> vaccine carriers that have no need for any ice at all. this is the indigo vaccine cooler. it does what nothing else in the world currently does. this cooler will keep vaccines at the right temperature for a long period of time, with absolutely no ice, no batteries, and no electricity needed during cooling. no infrastructure at all. it is really easy to use. when you want to make the cooling start, you open up a mechanical valve like this. in the cool inserts. when you do not own colin, pull it out. how do we do this? you limit the heat that goes into the unit. instead of adding ice, we have an internally built layer of water on the inside we keep at a very
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the water evaporate at a very low temperature. 5 degrees celsius, the perfect vaccine for vaccine storage >> chris: he is a scientist in the democratic of congo, where there is very little room for >> they reach about 20 of these remote vaccination sites. this much in september, they expect to reach 120 remote vaccine with the abilities of the indigo cooler. our goal is to have all vaccinate her's across africa to have these technologies and want to vaccinate all kids. >> chris: if you want to learn more about the gates foundation and its its ordinary work, go to our website, fox close . we
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