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carefirst blue cross blue shield. live fearless. >> right now on matter of fact.. capitol hill forced their own... after allegations of sexual harassment pile up on the politically powerful. >> this conduct is unbecoming a member of congress >> hidden payments to victims -- millions in taxpayer money. >> one of the other things we don't know. were any of thd out for a repeat offender? >> do you trust congress to police its own? >> plus, tens of thousands of children facing deportation. appearing in court on their own. >> for an 8 year old who doesn't speak english, it simply can't happen. >> jessica gomez reports on their plight and the lawyers offering to help for free. and, the genius theory. einstein. twain. zuckerberg. what do they have in common?
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hear our theory of creativity. >> i'm soledad o'brien. welcom to matter of fact. a pressure packed december on capitol hill. the republican congress, pushing tax reform. driving toward a deal with democrats to prevent a government shutdown. hammered by requests for more disaster relief funding. add to it, allegations of sexual misconduct piling up against the politically po. and revelations that congress quietly paid out millions frome harassment settlements. several foreman staffers have a accused veteran congressman john conyers of making unwanted sexual advances. a report said he made a female aid $27,000 to settle a complaint. the complaint the office of compliance. that
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to the tune of 17 point 2 mi dollars -- over the last 20 melanie sloan, is an ethics lawyer, who worked with conyers on the house judiciary committee in the 19-90s. laac being "increasingly abusive" to her, behavior she says wasn't "sexual harassment" but was she joins us now. nice to have you. thanks f -- bringing the complaints forward? >>i tr went to my supervisor who i th congressman and that didn't make a difference. i went to a leader dick gephardt and asked her to step in and see if the minority leader could help and that didn't result in anything. i went a leading women's group, because i worked on violence against women issues, and asked if someone could step in and help me there and i was told he is really great on our issues so no. then i called a po
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had worked with on a bunch of crime policy issues and i told him some of the things that were going on and then he called a colleague of mine to see if he could corroborate that and she told him i was mentally unstable, so even though he knew me and had worked with me, he actually said to me well she says you are mentally unstable so maybe you are, so i can't really do >> and so what did you do about your complaint? >> that was it. there was nothing else to do. i felt really dismissed and denied and eventually i left and i left and i went on to become prosecutor at the u.s. attorneys office in the district of columbia. >> so what do you think the d have made sense for you as someone who was bringing a complaint or really anybody who is bringing a complaint? >> well there needs to be a place that a person is -- if we are talking about training, staff needs to be trained, that there is in fact an office where they can go and make complaints and that their complaints will be taken seriously. the office of compliance now is ridiculous. what happens there is if you make a complaint, you are
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counseled for 30 days and re counseled about why you don't make to make this complaint and why you don't ever want to go public with it. it is all designed to protect the member of congress. more importantly is that office doesn't even apply to interns and fellows. so you have to be staff member, so interns who are young and impressionable. >> utterly unprotected? >> utter unprotected. >> ok. >> so talk to me about this that's been paid out i years the fund has existed. 264 cases i guess i would say but we don't know the names of who. it has zero transparency. are you shocked by that? >> congress' effort to protect itself never shock me, that said, it needs to be changed. i think we are in a moment where we might be able to get some change. with that 17 million one of the other things we don't know is were any of those claims paid out for a repeat offender? my guess is yes, my guess is that there is that there is going to be more than one settlement for a member who
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acted this way repeatedly. the reason i spoke out publicly last week was i wanted to help end this culture of secrecy on capitol hill. in a way, there is a mafia code on the hill. if you want to get another job, you are expected put up with it and shut up, >> there are 535 congress members and each one has its own rule or set of rules about how to behave and not harass people. >> that is one of the things that congress also needs to do is come up with a set of rules that apply to everyone and a system by which anyone in the house or senate can file a complaint. the rules are whatever that member of congress says the rules are. that is part of the problem. they are a basically an untouchable god in their office and there is nothing anybody can do and that is something needs to change. >> are you hopeful? >>i am hopeful. i really think this a moment just as we have
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industries with media coming forward and in hollywood and that now i think we may be at that moment in capitol hill. i think. i would like to see a difference so that my daughter when she wants to be an intern on capitol hill doesn't go through these kinds of thin. >> that way you don't have to worry about her. so nice to have you join us today. thank you. announcer: next on "matter of fact." internet loves beway. >> you go to whatever site you want, you watch videos on netflix or amazon, and it is ) j-s-y-k --*just so you know change. find out what net neutrality ly or, yes....this is y-i-r-l -- you in real life! and later, >> a weekly sfeach we like to call we are paying attention. >> one state law bans the sale of assault guns and high capacityigh capacity i saw the change in rich when we moved into the new house.
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>> twitter, petrino tet, read it and air b and b are among it00 firms that signed a letter warning the f.c.c. chairman not to roll back net neutrality rules governing the open internet. it is the principle that internet service providers should give consumers access to all legal content and applications on an equal basis without favoring some sources or blocking others. the f.c.c. is expected to repeal net neutrality rules on december 14, and critics say that vote could mean an end to a free and open internet. tim wu coined the term net nutralt. he is a professor of law. give us a sense of how net neutrality affects consumers? how do we experience that? >> it's what we are used to. you go to whatever site you want. you watch videos on netflix, amazon or whatever you want, and it is
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there is no blocking or throttling. that is what we are used to, the internet like a utility. >> and if the changes proposed go through, how would we as consumers now potentially experience the internet? >> well, two ways. you might find that some of site you like are slowed down or possibly blocked altogether. and you might also over time find your bill gets higher or that they changed the services. a lower tier is only mclemore and the web and you need to pay more for video or things like that. >> how would this potentially change the entire internet, the intereconomy, and you have said democracy as a whole as well? >> first of all, this gives companies like comcast, verizon or at&t a -- seysorial powers that we normally associate with the chinese government. they can block anyone. a critic of at&t, verizon or comcast could find themselves blocked. it also i think will ultimately hurt the web economy, particularly
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the guy or girl in the garage will need to find a way to pay off cable or phone companies to get started, which is very different than the original open ecosystem of the internet. >> outside of issues around censorship and issues around this is going to cost more potentially, what are your over concerns? >> i just worry about the economy. the golden goose of the u.s. economy has been the start up economy. that is the idea that you throw something out there, and maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. pin trestman, google, pick weed yafment i am concerned in the it will all be under the purview of the cable or phone company. that is antethetical to the open spirit and to a good economy. >> do you think this eventually ends up in court? >> i think there is no question it ends up in court. i think the s.e.c. has something of an uphill battle. they have done
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radical. they have not only gotten rid of what the obama administration did, but what the busch administration did, something relied on for 15 years. they need a good reason for doing that, and i am hot sure they have thate rationale he is to changes things. >> if it goes to court, on what grounds? how do they challenge it in court? >> there are rules for how agencies change their rules. they can't just be ideological. they have to provide a guy rationale. particularly long-standing rules that have been relied on heavily. the question is whether the f.c.c. is really looking at the evidence. the economy has been booming. investment has been booming. the idea of changing things radically supposedly for investments, they may say what data are you looking at? what reasoning are you using? i think the courts could strike this down. >> do you think consumers are even aware how critical this debate is right
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this issue really matters. in the long-term this has a lot to do with strength of the u.s. economy. and frankly, our identity as the tech leader of the world is imperiled. >> professor tim wu. thanks for joining us. >> it has been a pleasure. >> next on "matter of fact," undocumented children facing deportation, headed to court on their own. >> for kids who don't have lawyers, it is simply impossible for them to make it through this complicated court process. meet the lawyers who take their cases and represent child clients for free. and later, wish your desk looked like this? but know it really looks like this? guilt be gone. we will give awe scientific defense for your messy desk.
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>> tens of thousands of children cross the border into
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every year. some with their family. but in recent years an increasing number make the journey alone. immigration advocates say many are fleing poverty, neglect and increasing gunning violence. if they turn themselves in or apprehended, those who aren't immediately sent back are ordered to appear in federal. gration court to plead their case. but in the u.s., undocumented children are not entitled to free legal representation. an estimated nine out of 10 kid, most appearing alone, are ordered back to their home countries. a lawsuit filed by the aclu is asking the ferguson to provide free counsel to undocumented kids. that is now tied up in court. in the meantime, as our jessica gomez reports, a group of attorneys in new york is taking it upon themselves to help. >> navigating her way around new york city now comes easy to 18-year-old jennifer. it wasn't always that way. >> we come here for
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life, because life in central america is not easy. >> living in poverty and abandoned by her father in honduras. jeffery's brother who suffers from severe epilepsy wasn't getting the medical treatment he needed. >> we couldn't do anything. the doctors didn't wa to help us because we didn't have the money to pay them. >> in 2014 jennifer and her brother, along with their mother, fled honduras for the u.s. apprehended at the border, they were released to family in new york city and braced for deportation hearings. it was jennifer's high school spanish teacher, david lensner who during a class project about immigration realized she needed help. >> i remember vividly explaining the country she went through to get to the u.s. the students were look at her like why didn't you get on a plane? that is when it occurred is that she may be in an
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>> she was referred to this law school, which houses safe package project, a non-profit group of attorneys offering free legal help to children, ordered to appear in federal immigration court for deportation hearings. >> children are leaving behind their families and everything they know and making this journey alone, sometimes with just the clothes they have on their backs arcs and sometimes the number of a relative who might live in the united states. >> they are scared. they don't speak english. many of them think they are going to be deported that day back to the danger they fled from. >> safe package, which enlists the help of more than 400 pro bono attorneys, says it is able to help about 9 a% of the kid they makeup, mows of them eligible foe protection under u.s. law, but they just don't know it. >> there should not be a government attorney
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judge charged with ensuring the proceedings are carried out fairly and nobody on the side of the child. that is not what america is about. >> hey, allen. >> alexandria got jennifer's case. >> we identified they were eligible for special immigrant juvenile status available for children who have been abused, want donned or neglect the by one other r- or both parents. >> the court recently upheld the claim, and the siblings' green card plibblings are pending. jennifer's brother is finally getting the medical treatment he needs. but for those without an attorney at their side, the prospects in federal immigration court are dim. >> they either receive an order of removal and are actually deported from the country, or they live in the shadows. those are both terrible, terrible options.
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>> safe package, which is currently working on some 700 cases, is now teaming up with new york city schools like jennifer's and teachers like david to let other kid know there is hope. >> it is very difficult to focus and believe that it is important to under shakespeare when you are worried about ice coming and picking up your mother, father, brother or yourself. >> for jennifer, as one journey comes to an end, another will begin. she is set to graduate next spring and wants to trade in trains for planes. >> i one to list in the air force and then go to college. i want to become a pilot to serve the country that serves me. >> in new york for "matter of fact," i am jessica gomez. >> thank you. a report found that 20
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unaccompanied children were stopped at the border in one year. coming up next, congress takes action on a bill that let gun owners bring legally registered firearms across state lines. what could affect your second amendment rights. >> we are not saying we approve of the messy office you have got. >> but we aren't throwing shade either. the one argument that co
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>> and now to a weekly feature we like to call we are paying attention even if you are too busy. movement in the house judiciary committee approving two gun measures, one to expand rights, and the other to strengthen enforcement of exciting law. first, the concealed carry reciprocity act would a leo: licensed gun owners to bring legally
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firearms across state lines. they would still need to abide by individual state and log regulations. in response to the loophole that allowed a shooter at a texas church attack to kill 26 people, a measure creating incentives to ensure that all relevant mental and health record are uploaded to the federal system. the justices turned down an appeal for maryland gun owners seeking to overturn the ban own assault weapons. the attorney general said he hopes the court's decision would encourage other states to adopt similar assault weapon ban. >> coming up next, a clean, well ordered desk means you are focused, organized and efficient, relatively speaking. what does this mean? it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. or does it?
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>> so listen, we are not saying we approve of the messy office that you have got. but we are saying that a messy desk might make you the go-to person if the boss needs a creative solution to a problem. several studies document negative consequence of a cluttered work space. harder for your brain to focus, creates distractions and produces guilt, shame and anxiety. researchers also say that entrepreneurs especi need to be productive. and a well organized work space helps with productivity, keeps you organized, efficient and focused. you can find things more quickly and have more space to work. but one study from the university of minnesota's karlsson school of management found that clutter supports creativity. it turns out that a messy work space helps you tap into the creative solutions and ideas that help grow businesses, helps you think outside the box. the study find disorderly environments can inspire breaking free of tradition, which can lead to fresh
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insights. apparently thosef us who are neat and tidy just play it safe. so whether you are neat or you are a slob, can now defend it to your boss. we will see you back here next weeden for "matter of fact." -- we will see you next week for "matter of fact." [captioning performed by the inponsible for] getting bread delivered is way easier than hiring real bakers... ...who work all night and morning to bake fresh brioche buns. you deserve a breakfast made with respect. try the new bacon, egg, and cheese on brioche. panera. food as it should be.
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