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it is wednesday, may 16, 2012. welcome to studio 57 at the cbs broadcast center. i'm charlie rose. a major twist in the trayvon martin case. cbs news confirmed george zimmerman was treated for broken nose and cuts after the shooting. how is that likely to affect his murder case? and i'm gayle king. are we on the verge of a major breakthrough in the fight against alzheimer's? we'll talk with the man behind the first ever human testing of a drug that may prevent that disease. i'm erica hill. a showdown between the owner of a wild animal park and the humane society. armen keteyian is here with the undercover video that sparked an emotional reaction. we begin with a look at today's "eye opener," your world
in 90 seconds. it's an action forcing event in a town that's become infamous for inaction. >> washington braces for another debt ceiling showdown. >> the president is holding a rare meeting with top congressional leaders from both parties today. >> uncle sam needs to be put on a diet and live within our means. >> we've had enough of the brinksmanship. they want us to get things done. >> court documents reveal george zimmerman reportedly had black eyes, a broken nose and two cuts on the back of his head the day after he shot and killed trayvon martin. >> this evidence would seem to suggest that if there was a physical altercation, zimmerman was on the receiving end, not the giving end. >> the fbi has now launched an investigation into potential wrongdoing on the part of $2 billion trading loss. >> who loses $2.3 billion.
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welcome to "cbs this morning." there is new information in the trayvon martin shooting that may back up george zimmerman's story that martin attacked him. >> cbs news confirmed court papers have been filed that the man was treated a day later for broken nose and cuts to his head. >> cbs news legal analyst jack ford is here. what do we make of this story and what impact do we have? >> it's important for the defense. it's not the magic bullet for the prosecution to say, never mind, the case it over. the big question is, who is the aggressor? we know what happened? we know trmartin was shot but gm zan has said, i was there, but martin came after me. this now allows the defense to show up in the courtroom, let george zimmerman tell his story and bring in a medical expert, black and blue under the eyes,
broken nose and cut on the back of the head and defense can argue that's consistent with zimmerman being attacked by martin. and then defense comes into play. >> that's consistent with being attacked but is there any way to show who may have started it. >> that's always the big question in this, who is the aggressor? that's what this case is all about. here's what you'll get. i'm sure the prosecution is going to say, hey, you know what this shows? this shows that trayvon martin was fighting for his life because he was attacked by george zimmerman here. the defense is going to say, that's not so at all and we have the medical testimony to show it. absent some witness out there who says, who will be able to say, i awe it, i saw who started it, it will be a tough decision for the jury to make. the prosecution has the burden of proving it. if the defense has something on their side to help support it, if you're the defense attorney you're always pleased with something like this. >> and then it shows if it yufs shooting somebody. >> there's a statute don't
there. if it was reasonable under the circumstances and defense will say, reasonable, broken nose, cut on the back of the head, black eyes, that suggest to the jury, his fear was reasonable. >> in his mind as to whether he -- >> his mind but still has to be a reasonable fear in his mind. >> jack ford, thank you very much. republican leaders are laying down a new challenge for president obama and democrats over tax cuts and the national debt. >> and that could mean another ugly confrontation is coming just in time for the november election. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. good morning. >> good morning, erica and charlie. yes, ugly is right. two parties are still fighting over the fallout from the last debt debate. now republican house speaker john boehner is drawing a new line in the sand, making another showdown over the debt almost inevitable. >> we shouldn't dread the debt limit. as a matter of fact, i think we should welcome it. >> reporter: speaker boehner said republicans won't allow another increase in the nation's
debt limit unless it's offset by spending cuts and no tax increases. >> allowing america to default on its debt would be irresponsible. >> reporter: the nation's debt has tripled in the past decade and now stands at $15.6 trillion. the treasury secretary has predicted the u.s. will hit its current borrowing limit of $16.4 trillion by the end of the year. congress will have to raise that limit to avoid a damaging default of u.s. debt. on the campaign trail, republican mitt romney echoed boehner's hard line. >> washington has been spending too much money and our new president makes things worse. >> reporter: this is the second time republicans are demanding deep cuts. last summer a grand bargain between speaker boehner and the president to cut trillions from the debt fell apart after weeks of bitter fighting, the two parties passed the bill to prevent default but still triggered a downgrade of u.s.
credit. the administration says boehner's last credits don't bode well for compromise. >> the american people have had enough of this brinksmanship. they want to us get things done. >> reporter: virginia's mark warner is part of a bipartisan group trying to build support for both sides for a mix of entitlement reforms, spending cuts and new revenue from taxes. >> i spent a lot of time talking with my colleagues who know in their gut we've got to do this. >> reporter: former president bill clinton spoke at the same economic forum at speaker boehner yesterday, and he said he was optimistic that after the november elections, the two sides will have more incentive to compromise on this very important issue. one can only hope. erica and charlie. >> nancy cordes, thank you. also in washington, massachusetts congressman barney frank. congressman, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> do you believe or do you agree with bill clinton that after the election there may be more incentive and, therefore, we'll not see this brinksmanship that may be part of the future of the debate in congress?
>> yes, i think technically there will be less disincentive, since we're as far from an election as you can get. but there's an issue here that's very substantive that has to be addresse. my republican colleagues differ with many of us, not on whether or not to reduce spending, but on how to do it. they particularly want to increase military spending. and i believe that that's an issue the country will decide in november. the president wants to pull out of afghanistan next year. i think that's too long. republicans want to stay in longer. they are pushing him to spend more money on nuclear weapons than the pentagon thinks is necessary. 10% of our total debt is attributable, literally 10%, to the fact we went to an unnecessary and costly war in iraq. the republican position, you correctly pointed outings there was an agreement last year, to make spending cuts both from
domestic, quality of life things we have, social security, medicare and other things, and the military. the republican budget now says, no, we're not cutting the military. by the way, i'm quoting "the wall street journal" which praised paul ryan in an editorial because he said he's protecting the military against cuts and will make that up by further cuts in medicare and medicaid. that's an issue i hope the country will decide in november. >> i want to move to the jpmorgan case as well. dodd/frank is partly your hard work in congress. the volcker rule has not been implemented. if it had, what would that have meant about what we know about what jpmorgan did in incurring the losses it has? >> the volcker rule hasn't been implemented yet because we said it would take two years, and that that two years will expire in july. we did want this to be done in a process in which everybody had a chance to talk. it's still undecided how it will be. some of us have been pushing for
a version of the volcker rule that would not allowed jpmorgan chase to do this. i want to make it clear, we're not trying to stop financial institutions from losing money. that's their business. that's inherent. we're trying to prevent losses from spilling over to the rest of the economy and causing a problem. we have a particular concern about banks which get federal deposit insurance. we want to keep them in a safer and stable place. now, mr. dimon wanted a version of the volcker rule that, frankly, wouldn't do much. i think we now have a stronger argument for volcker rule that says no to a bank. your main job is lending and managing money of your clients. you shouldn't put your own money at risk. if you want to engage this this kind of speculative, razzle dazzle -- >> but is that what you -- >> use your own money. >> is that clear to you what happened here, which was a hedge, not your money, buying credit default swaps, morphed into something that was
proprietary trading of putting your own money -- >> absolutely. >> -- into the risk? >> yes. >> is that your assumption happened? >> no, i think they acknowledged. it's pretty clear. a hedge against a specific asset going down in price is -- could be supported. this was a general hedge about the economy 37. this was a form of speculating on the economy. look, they couldn't lose $2 billion if it was, you know, this kind of conventional thing. i mean, it's not like they lent $2 billion to borrowers who couldn't pay it. it's clear with this kind of hedge. there's another factor, too, we put into law rules that cover trading and derivatives if you're not a bank. aig which precipitated a lot of this crisis weren't a bank. also rules in the process of being promulgated saying if you do derivative trading, you can't be overextended. have you to have money to pay your debts off.
>> i have to leave it there. thank you. congressman barney frank from washington. for the first time doctors are read for human testing of a drug intended to prevent alzheimer's disease. it was announced as the government begins a new campaign to combat the disease. wyatt andrews is in washington with the story. >> reporter: this first ever test of a drug that might stop alzheimer's will be centered near meddillin, colombia. scientists have identified hundreds in one extended family that carry a genetic misspelling that almost guarantees they get alzheimer's. in the trial 300 willing family members that have the alzheimer's gene but don't yet have symptoms will be offered an experimental drug called crenezumab to see if their genetic destiny can be reversed and if alzheimer's can be prevented. >> if we could by this kind of bold new scientific approach develop an approach that could prevent the disease, we could
then offer that to people at high risk. we could identify those who already have the early signs by brain imaging that trouble has started, even though they're fine, and we could reverse what otherwise is an enormous threat to our future. >> reporter: when the trial begins, crenezumab will attack a toxic brain protein called amyloid, seen here in red. most scientists think the buildup of amyloid kills brain cells and is the root cause of alzheimer's. doctors now hope the drug will stop the protein from lodging in the brain to begin with. dr. eric reiman is the director of the banners alzheimer's institute and the lead researcher in the trial. what's new about this research approach? >> most but not all researchers believe the accumulation of amyloid plays a critical role in the development of alzheimer's disease. and if that's right, and if we start early enough, we may have a way to stop the disease in its tracks before people develop symptoms. >> reporter: the trial is set to
formally begin next year. in addition to those 300 colombian volunteers, sponsors will be looking for 24 americans at high risk of getting alzheimer's to sign up for this high-stakes one-of-a-kind experiment. >> dr. eric reiman, who you saw in wyatt's report, is with us now. welcome. >> thank you. >> the impact of this for people who have predisposition, genetic prdisposition, if you know that's true, you can stop alzheimer's from developing. >> well, we don't know yet whether we can stop alzheimer's from developing. but for the first time we need to begin to start evaluating our most promising treatments in healthy people at risk for the disorder before the disease ravages the brain. when these treatments have their best chance of working. no guarantee these treatments will work, but we have a shot. we're very excited about that. >> and what will determine whether they work? the testing, how long will that take? >> so, this study will last up to five years of treatment.
in which we're going to find out whether this treatment can slow down memory and thinking declines, whether it can prevent irreversible symptoms of alzheimer's disease and whether it can slow down biomarker evidence of the disease even before people develop symptoms. >> that's your five-year window. if you're noticing at the end of this five years that it's not giving the results you thought it would, does this tell us some of the other information we have about alzheimer's may not be correct? >> so, if this treatment works, we would have the opportunity to know we're on the right track with anti-amyloid treatments. it would encourage us to further investigate these kind of treatments in everybody in the prevention of alzheimer's disease. i hope you'll start seeing studies like that relatively soon. if it doesn't work, it will provide the best evidence to date that we need to start targeting other elements of the disease instead of amyloid. >> in some cases it's a win-win no matter what? >> it is. we're also excited about not just studying, but sharing this data with the entire research
community to find faster ways to prevent alzheimer's disease. >> one more example of why science and research is important. thank you. >> thank you. "60 minutes" investigation is leading the pentagon to take a look at its f-22 raptor fighter jet. >> you may recall that report when two pilots reported serious risk in flying the aircraft. as david martin reports, there are new limits on the pilots and the plane. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. until further notice, the f-22, the pentagon's top of the line jet fighter, has been ordered to stay close to airfields where it can land in an emergency. the f-22 can cruise at supersonic speeds. but with the new flight restrictions it cannot conduct air defense patrols over alaska. where the landing fields are few and far between. other jets will have to perform that mission. defense secretary panetta ordred the restrictions after being briefed on the air force's unsuccessful attempts to find out what was causing pilots to become disoriented in flight.
according to air force figures, there have been 22 unexplained cases over the past four years in which pilots experienced symptoms of oxygen deprivation. two pilots, major jeremy gordon and captain josh wilson, have refused to fly the plane and talked about it to lesley stahl on "60 minutes". >> i am not comfortable flying the f-22 right now. >> reporter: when wilson felt himself becoming disoriented, he did what he was trained to do and went to his emergency oxygen supply. >> when i did make that decision to pull the emergency oxygen ring, i couldn't find it. >> reporter: the f-22 was grounded last year, but has since been returned to flight, even sent to the persian gulf. while the air force continues to search for whatever could be contaminating the cockpit air supply. some of the pilots feel like human guinea pigs. >> we've been told we're data collectors. our job is to go out and collect data. >> reporter: after that "60 minutes" story aired, secretary
panetta ordered a briefing and then ordered flight restrictions as well as speed up of automatic backup oxygen system, but the backup oxygen won't be ready until december at the earliest. now, the air force says only those two pilots have refused to fly, but it is conducting a survey of all 200 f-22 pilots to find out what they really think about how safe it is. >> david martin, thank you. time to show you some of this morning's headline from around the globe. "the wall street journal" says general motors plans to stop advertising on facebook because it's not getting enough mileage out of the ads. this friday the social media site makes its initial public offering. >> the richmond times dispatch reports an openly gay prosecutor in virginia has been blocked from being a judge. conservative republicans in the state legislature voted against appointing tracy thorne-begland to that position. asthma rates have hit an all-time high.
17.8 million adults and 7 million children had the disease in 2010. that is 1 in every 12 americans. "usa today" follows occupy a story we brought you yesterday about a boy who was kicked off a girl's field hockey team. the decision was reversed and now he will get to out-g out for the team next tuesday. britain guardian shows us a rare beetles show photo, like the abb can ey road album cover except they're walking in the opposite direction. and paul mccartney isn't barefoot, weari ining sajts ini
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scott pelley of -- >> oh, yeah. >> a cohort of yourself. >> so anxious to take that on first, me or scott pelley. dave, i've had a few minutes to think about this backstage. we're just different people. and he is every inch a texan and i am every inch a new jerseyian, and all that entails. when you -- when you ask him, scott, how are you? he answers, never better, thanks. instantly suspicious of that. >> okay. >> you can't be that sunny. >> all right. >> life's too short. >> welcome back to "cbs this morning." >> here is a fact that may make you stop for a moment. there are more captive tigers in
the u.s. today than there are in the wild throughout the world. the popularity of exotic pets, tigers, lions, bears, even monkeys, is touching off a fierce debate between owners and animal activists. as armen keteyian, critics are pointing to that recent tragedy in zanesville, ohio. >> reporter: earlier this month five exotic animals were returned to an eastern ohio farm. a painful reminder of the day last october that owner terry thompson released 56 such animals before police said committing suicide. 48 of his animals were eventually killed by authorities concerned over public safety. pushing ohio lawmakers to author a new bill, restricting private ownership of exotic pets. arguably the loudest, most defind voice on the front lines of the big cat debate belongs to this man -- >> this is sarge. >> reporter: his name is joe
schriebvogel, owner of gw exotic animal park outside of oklahoma city, who's had his own run-ins ith regulators. what are you standing up for? >> the american right, the constitution, to own whatever i want to own as long as it's legal. >> reporter: today state laws on private ownership of wild animals are all over the map. gw exotic is licensed by the federal government because it's open to the public, charging admission to come this close to what schriebvogel calls the largest refuge for unwanted animals in the world. rolling out over 54 acres, it's home to nearly 170 big cats. lions, tigers, leopards, and about 800 other animals of every size and stripe. he also runs a controversial breeding program, selling tiger cubs, only to zoos he says, for up to $5,000 each.
>> this has white daddy and orange momma. >> reporter: cross-breeding liger, cross between lion and tiger, and even what he calls a taliger, a mix of a liger and tiger. do you have a background, zoology or veterinary medicine -- >> i grew up a farm kid. that's pretty much my background. >> reporter: over the years gw exotic has come under scrutiny for public contact with dangerous animal and the lack of physical barriers. records show in 2006 it had its license suspended for two weeks and paid $25,000 for facilities violations. it is currently under investigation by the usda for the death of 23 tiger cubs between 2009 and 2010. wayne pacelle is president and ceo of the humane society of the united states. >> if something does go wrong, it can happen on a scale and with a magnitude that we haven't
seen before in this country. >> reporter: the humane society was so concerned, it recently sent an activist undercover into gw exotic as an employee. >> pop him and make him walk. >> reporter: documented what it calls alarming and abusive behavior. >> stay back. >> one hand in front. >> reporter: including a boy suddenly attacked while interacting with a young tiger. >> any person with any bit of common sense knows large predatory animals are going to lash out at people. that's why sensible organizations say you've got to keep people and dangerous wild animals separate. >> reporter: we showed the undercover video to schriebvogel who charged the incident with the boy was set up by the humane society. you're saying the humane society would put a little boy in harm's way? >> oh, hell, yeah, in a heart beat. i want to be clear.
i am saying wayne pacelle would stoop low enough to put a little kid at risk, yes, to get his agenda so he could continue to make money. >> it's a desperate and pitiful comment. joe schriebvogel has a history of allowing private citizens, patrons, tourists, to interact with his animals. >> reporter: the president of the humane society called this place, and i quote, a ticking time bomb and potentially ten times worse than zanesville. >> it is a ticking time bomb if somebody thinks they're going to walk in here and take my animals away. it's going to be a small waco. >> reporter: that's a pretty powerful statement. >> it's a very powerful statement because i have poured my entire life into what i do. to care for animals. nobody is going to walk in here and freely shut me down and take my rights away from me as long as i am not breaking the law. >> armen keteyian is with us now. how would you characterize mr. schriebvogel? >> well, he's on the extreme end, charlie, obviously. he believes in the right to hold
these animals, have these animals, both privately and for the viewing public. as far as regulation is concerned, schriebvogel says he's in favor of the right regulation. what that right regulation may be, he didn't say. just to give you an idea, just for tigers, there are 28 states that ban any kind of private ownership. there are 17 where you have to have some sort of registration or a permit. but then there are eight, which is just basic open season. >> that's one of the things that was most surprising to people after zanesville is how there is all of this varied legislation and regulation. what was it like, though, to be there? i mean, did you at any point feel like -- i'm not sure animal's getting too close? >> oh, absolutely. it's a combination of awe and fear and fascination. you're really about this close to some of these animals. and you start to think about, well, what would happen if they escaped? i mean, this is tornado alley there in oklahoma. if something did happen, there are 800 animals and 170 big cats. do you the calculations in your
head and you're starting to think, i'm looking like lunch here. >> did he seem to have control? >> yes, he did. i mean, to be honest, when we were there, there were at least a half dozen to a dozen workers there. there are barriers. you know, there's a lot of security there. but these are large animals. i was there close, charlie, where i am to you, to a 900-pound lion. when it stood up on its hind legs, it was 13 feet tall. that catches your attention right away. >> the scary thing, the scene with the kid. >> yeah. obviously, we confronted him with that. and i was pretty shocked when he said it was a setup by the humane society. clearly, the humane society and schriebvogel are at odds here in a very -- i think legislation in congress they're talking about national ledge laying, tightening and restricting laws nationwide. if you're asking me, i think it's a pretty good idea. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> marilyn monroe is on the move. a gigantic statue getting a new
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♪ a kiss on the hand may be quite continental ♪ ♪ but diamond are >> a giant statue of marilyn monroe is taking shape. we first saw it standing tall nearly a year ago in chicago. >> as dean reynolds reports, many people there are sorry to see marilyn go. >> reporter: month after month, they came to stand between her
legs and stare. >> once you saw that it was here, what was the impulse? >> i had to get under her skirt, you know. >> reporter: marilyn monroe, 26 feet and 40,000 pounds of her, was on display in all her glory for ten months in chicago. the sculpture sought to recapture the memorable moment from the film "the seven-year itch". >> going to stand on the subway. isn't this delicious? >> reporter: critics called the inapproach kitch but the pilgrims who came to pioneer court had none of it. >> girls like her talent. men like her body. >> reporter: he came all the way from russia. would this work in moscow? >> definitely. definitely, for sure. many people will be interested in that. >> reporter: might warm up the winters a little bit? >> yeah. oh, my gosh, i'm dreaming about it every winter. >> reporter: on her last day in chicago, most of those paying homage hadn't been born when marilyn was alive.
her death will be 50 years ago this august. some remember her alive and in the flesh, as it were. for men of a certain age, this is really a dream come true. the giant marilyn is the work of sculptor sue waeward johnson. >> i can't allow myself to do something i'm not going to like. >> reporter: sure. >> i'm just taking a chance, but when i saw it, i fell in love. >> reporter: you think that pose just sort of captures her? >> i think it is the pose that captures her. >> reporter: he's well aware of the controversy his work generated. >> i hope not to start fist fights, but i don't mind a little bit of disagreement. it's very good. because it makes people go down inside themselves to find out what's making them tick. >> reporter: last week in the dark of night, marilyn was disassembled. her run here had come to an end. >> sad day. it really is. >> reporter: this week marilyn made its way to palm springs,
california, beating out other towns who wanted to host it because it was in palm springs that the real marilyn burst on the american scene in a series of photos shot locally. on monday, the leggy foundation and billowing skirt were set in place, followed by the torso and head on tuesday. the reception was as warm as the desert air. >> i love that this statue, the sculpture is larger than life because marilyn herself was larger than life. i think this epitomizes what she was all about. >> we're very excited. being a business owner downtown, it's going to bring lots of business down here. >> reporter: it turns out that marilyn monroe is still quite a draw. for "cbs this morning," i'm dean reynolds in chicago. >> it is ameying where she stands in the cultural galaxy. >> so many people are still so fascinated by her. we have a look for you this morning from palm springs. there we have it. a live look. marilyn against the back drop of the night.
very early morning in palm springs right now. this is what she looks like this morning. there's going to be an official unveiling later this month. sounds like from everybody dean talked to they're pretty pro football veteran jacob bell is in top form. but he is walking away from the game. after the suicide of junior seau.
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i don't know if you saw this earlier today, president obama went on "the view." did you see that? yeah. yeah, he went on "the view" because he's the only group of women the president trusts his secret service agents to be around. >> well, they are very trust-worthy. pit's 8:00. welcome back to "cbs this morning." i'm gayle king. >> i'm charlie rose with erica hill. more than 3,000 pro football players, past and present, are suing the national football league. they claim the nfl deliberately concealed information about the long-term effects of repeated hits to the head. >> offensive lineman jacob bell is not part of that case but he
is so concerned about head trauma, he has decided to give up football. bill whitaker talks with bell. it is his first tv interview since retiring. >> this is the warm-up. >> reporter: after eight years in the nfl, jacob bell retired in his prime. these days his focus is on staying fit, keeping healthy, recovering from past injuries. >> the first time you sprain your ankle you're thrown off. >> reporter: but the injury that concerns him most is one he isn't even sure he has -- injury to his brain. >> we're seeing there is clear-cut proof the trauma incurred during football leads to later problems in life. >> reporter: it takes a big man to walk away from the fame and fortune of pro football, but at age 31, the 6'5", 270-pound guard is doing just that. this year after four years with the st. louis rams, bell signed with the cincinnati bengals for nearly $1 million. a steep pay cut from the $3
million a year he was making with the rams. but he was playing the game he loved. then like the rest of the nfl, he was shocked by the suicide of former linebacker junior seau. >> it was kind of like an eye-opener. we realize, you know, the game has an effect on you. we don't know exactly all the things he was going through, his personal life, other factors that played into it, but, you know, we can imagine football may have had some kind of a role in that. >> reporter: especially since scientists now link repetitive head injury to chronic encephalopathy, the disease which causes depression and early onset dementia was discovered in the brain of former chicago safety dave duerson after he killed himself in the same manner as seau, a gunshot to his chest. in his suicide note duerson asked his brain be donated to science, to study if the brutality caused the brain
injury. >> we sell our soul to a game for money, fame, glory. at some point you have to sit there and say, you know, is this still worth what i'm doing? >> reporter: bell's answer was no. one week after seau's suicide, he became the first nfl player to announce his retirement because of fears playing the sport he loves would result in long-term brain damage. >> i'm giving up at this point because i feel like i've reached a point in my career where i've done enough. i think the risk outweighs the reward. >> reporter: you've suffered concussions yourself? >> i would say that anyone who's played football has suffered & concussions. >> reporter: any that you remember? i mean, any -- >> i remember one time i had a concussion, you know, that lasted -- the feeling in my head lasted two, three weeks. you know, it's hard to sit out. it's hard to say, hey, coach, you know, i got to sit out. my head hurts. i can't play right nout. >> reporter: bell says the competitive nature of the nfl discourages that while it encourages harder hits and ever
more violent play. >> a lineman in nfl or at college incurs about 1,000 to 1500 hits at about 20 gs. that's like running your car into a wall at about 30 miles an hour, 20 miles an hour. so, you're doing that 1500 times in a season. >> reporter: bell conceded the league has addressed the issue, changing rules to cut down on helmet-to-helmet hit and letting neurologists make the call when players return. the nfl has donated $1 million to research but bell hopes the league will dig deeper into its pockets. >> we may not be able to change the way they play the game, change football, but we can raise awareness, do research to find a cure for the disease that's causing these problems. >> reporter: bell says he feels fine now. he doesn't have any long-term consequences from the hits he
took, but he knows that doesn't mean he won't in the future. he hopes by walking away from the game he loves, he can be a voice for fallen gladiators like dave duerson and junior seau. >> pain-free here. >> reporter: for "cbs this morning," bill whitaker, los angeles. >> good piece. >> i think so, too. i love the attitude he's taking, just to raise awareness to give people something to think about. certainly not riding off into the sunset, as they say. >> and it suggests the growing comprehension of what the danger is among the players and the choices they have to make. >> i wish there was a way they could play the game and not get hit on the head. >> absolutely. >> i wish there was a way. why don't you work on that, mr. rose, in your spare time. >> right away, ma'am. >> in all that spare time you have. you know what, you can start right now. we'll take a break for weather. you start working on
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in today's "healthwatch," love and loss. matt logelin knew his wife liz would be the perfect mother. he expected to lean on her as he learned to be a dad. >> but as lee woodruff reports, he enough thought he would have to figure it all out on his own. >> i was devastated. i lost my best friend. hi been with her 12 years. >> reporter: after a complicated bed-ridden pregnancy, matt and liz logelin celebrated their daughter maddy's birth, but only 27 hours later, as liz took her first steps in weeks to visit
heir newborn daughter, she suffered a pull money embolism and died. >> she was my everything. here i was now this helpless, single dad. said, you better be the best baby there ever was because i need your help. i need your help at this point because, you know, i don't know how to do this. >> reporter: grieving, as he tried to learn how to be a dad, matt poured his emotions onto the blog he had written to keep friends and family posted on liz's pregnancy. >> i started writing about my experiences. sometimes it was about how sad i was about missing her mom. sometimes it was about inthings like we went to get coffee today. i never imagined why anybody would want to read it but, eventually, yeah, people were reading it all over the country, all over the world. i found myself talking to these moms. they were giving me advice. >> reporter: so, the blog became for you not only a healing but you found this greater parenting community to help you as you set
out on this course of parenting maddy. >> these were people i came to know through their user names on my site. and they did some incredible things for us. i started getting packages from for maddy, somebody sent me a s- six-back of guinness. >> reporter: touched by the generosity of strangers, matt unsure how to say thank you, found unexpected inspiration. >> i had a bunch of women who had organized a 5k in liz's honor. they raised, you know, $4,000 or something like that. and they were ready to give it to me. i said, i can't accept this. i've met so many other widows and widowers. is it cool if i give it away to them? i said, i think we should start a foundation. i was totally kidding because i'm not prepared to do anything quite like that. she said, i was thinking the same thing. >> reporter: matt created a charity to support other widowed parents. in grant of a couple hundred to a couple thousand dollars, the liz logelin foundation helps
widowed parents like ashley so they can focus on healing. >> money they gave us allowed me to give my son his very first christmas. >> reporter: what does matt represent for you as somebody who's taken his wife's memory and done something good? >> well, he's given me hope again that, you know, there's people out there that care about you and that are willing to help you out. and just show me that you can get through it. >> reporter: and maddy's been asking questions about liz lately. >> yeah. most recently she asked me what her mom's voice sounded like. >> reporter: since she passed, matt had not heard liz's royce. he summoned his courage and watched home videos he had saved. >> it was just awful for me, but i've gotten to that point where i can do it now without vomiting. i still cry and have a hard time with it. >> reporter: and he's ready to share those videos with maddy. >> it's going to be be the hardest thing any of us have done since she died, but it's just another in the list of hard things we've had to do since she
died and we all survive it. my belief is that keeping liz alive is just talking about her. the more i can say liz, the more she's alive and the longer she's alive for all of us. >> my cricket told me all about it. >> your krick snet. >> yeah. >> you have a cricket? >> yeah. >> what's your cricket's name? >> jelly bean. >> reporter: there's one thing you want maddy to inherent from her mother, what would that number. >> her brains. having her mom's brains will help her in the future. having mine would not get her very far, you know? i'm just lucky half of her is her mom. >> reporter: i think the other half is your heart. >> i hope so. i hope she gets the heart. liz had that, too, but i've learned over the last four years that my heart's bigger than i thought it was and it can do a lot more than i thought it could. >> so nice. maddy certainly got her mom's eyes. >> she did. she looks so much like her mom. we walked around and looked at the pictures in her home.
it's incredible. >> what a beautiful testament to her. i can't -- i was looking at this stuff this morning in my office, looking at picturs and his book. what a beautiful testament to a life cut far too short but so well lived. >> so well lived. and their love for each other was unbelievable. what he did with maddy was travel with her. one of his stories that we didn't have time to tell was taking liz to the taj mahal and the story there is that they built the taj mahal because his wife was dying. liz turned to matt and said, you'll never do that for me and he is so happy to say i did something else and he has. >> no, she would not be disappointed with -- essential the way her daughter's turned out. how old is maddy now? >> four, i think. >> and is he open to love again? i always wonder where i hear these kind of stories? zooi >> i think he is. it's still very fresh but he
knows maddy has a lot of different women in her life with both parents active, the grandparents. i hope he is. >> i hope so, too. >> that must be comforting for the grandparents, to see a wonderful little girl and what a beautiful job their son-in-law is doing of keeping their daughter's memory alive. >> somebody would be very lucky. matt, maddy and cricket the jelly bean. jelly bean. >> it's a great book, too. "two kiss for maddy." >> thanks, lee. from that story to a drunk driving suspect in california's wine country. she has quite an excuse. she's a different kind of mother. let's just say that. we're going to make that "a long story short." you're watching "cbs this morning." >> announcer: "cbs healthwatch" sponsored by new ensure clear. clearly different. refreshing nutrition in charge. [ music plays, record skips ] hi, i'm new ensure clear.
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smoke, by the way. the moral of the story is, school is very cool. >> chances are if you were pulled over for speeding you might have tried to get out of that ticket. a story from "the san francisco chronicle" tells the tale of a woman in northern california who was clocked doing 100 miles an hour. she said she was late for her kid's birthday party. it happened in the sonoma wine country. allegedly the woman was drunk. it was 9:00 at night. there you go. >> don't you always have your children's birthday parties at 9:00 at night? >> very late at night. >> on a school night. another reason to cut back on sugar. britain's daily mail says it will make you stooped with two os. a ucla study says processed food with high levels of fructose can slow your brain and make it harder to remember things. you can call it a sugar low. "the huffington post" has a heartbreaker of a story. internet romance scams cost victims $50 million last year.
scammers find their victims in chat rooms, dating sites, social networking sites. they earn your trust. then they ask you to pay for a big ticket item like, oh, a plane ticket. maybe an operation. yeah, love is truly a battlefield. >> see, another reason about online. it's a little scary to me. our minneapolis station, that would be wcco, a poir house, listed a wisconsin man picketing a restaurant because he says it didn't live up to its promise of all you could eat. take a look at bill. bill is 6'6", he weighs 350 pounds. last week he had 12 pieces of fish. he said, that's not enough at chuck's place. i want more. the waitress said enough with you, bill. he he was sent home with eight more pieces. that's not good enough. bill is one hungry and angry man with a picket sign outside the restaurant. >> the new york "daily news" says two moms allegedly sprayed
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the ump. he was upset and threw it down. >> clearly he didn't mean to hit him. he would face suspension for is that. >> i don't know. >> i would be discussing the act in general of throwing the helmet, but that's me. >> there's that, too. >> not something you want them to try. >> not on my top ten list. >> you're right. when president obama took office, the only cabinet official he kept from the bush administration was secretary of defense robert gates. gates left the pentagon last year. he's writing a memoir and chancellor of william and mary college. that's where we met and talked about the dangers america still faces. >> reporter: how would you assess our national security today? >> there's many diverse challenges. none are probably exois stential at this point but they're all important and all have to be dealt with. the problem is crisis and problems just keep coming up.
nothing ever goes away. and what people, i think, don't understand is we have this gigantic security apparatus, but when push comes to shove, it's eight people that have to deal with all of these issues sitting around the table in the situation room. led by the president. >> reporter: those people are the president, the vice president, the secretary of state, the secretary of defense, the national security adviser, the cham chairman of the join chiefs. that's six. >> national intelligence and director of cia. >> reporter: that brings me to a specific, which is the night of the bin laden raid. and the assassination and -- >> the one where we pledged to each other we would never go public with operational details. >> reporter: how long did that last? >> five hours. >> reporter: you're sitting in that room. what were your concerns? >> my major concern, i had no doubts that the s.e.a.l.s could perform the mission. my concern was whether or not he was there. people don't realize that made
the decision tough for the president is we didn't have one single piece of hard data that he was actally in that compound. not one. the whole thing was a circumstantial case built by analysts at cia. >> reporter: there was no single person who could tell you he was in that building, no single person had seen him in that building? >> right. the crux of the decision revolved less around the efficacy of the military piece of it than the consequences for us if he wasn't there. in terms of the relationship with pakistan, in terms of the war in afghanistan. >> reporter: what were your worries about these navy s.e.a.l.s going in that had been informed by your experience at cia? >> well, i wanted to make sure that if things all went south -- >> reporter: more people in there than you imagined? >> -- we had enough capability to get them out and get them back to afghanistan. >> reporter: it is said that you wanted to bomb and not go in. >> my primary concern was the
reaction of the pakistanis if we went in there and he wasn't there. my view was, let's kill him but let's use a missile of some kind. the objection to that was, well, we couldn't collect information to exploit. and we won't know for sure whether we got him. my view was, you'll know. it may take a few months and it's not as dramatic and you won't get the headline that you will on a s.e.a.l. raid, but you have -- if you think he's there, that's probably the least risky way to take him out. but i -- you know, the president asked for my view. i told him, maybe, mr. president, i've been in this job too long and i've become too cautious. and he said -- actually, he was
very reassuring. he said, no, you've raised lots of questions that i have to think about. but i've always thought it was a very courageous call. if this mission had failed, it could have put the war in iraq -- in afghanistan at risk. and that was one of my principle concern. >> reporter: which brings me to iran. you have said that was the most difficult problem you had to find -- or the worst problem for finding a good answer. >> correct. >> reporter: what are the choices? >> the only good option is putting enough pressure on the iranian government that they make the decision for themselves that continuing to seek nuclear weapons is actually harming the security of the country and perhaps more importantly to them, putting the regime itself at risk. and there are signs that those sanctions are beginning to really bite and some much more severe european union sanctions
will come into effect this summer. >> reporter: what if israel does it on its own? >> that would be worse than us doing it, because i think that then has lots of regional complications that may end up in a much larger middle east conflict. so, i think -- i think that would be worse. >> reporter: you can answer this question as well as anyone i know. having said all the things you have just said, do you give president obama high marks in the national security arena? >> well, if i don't, i'm short of giving myself that grade. >> reporter: fair enough. okay, yes, indeed you, indeed you are. >> i think -- i think that -- let me answer the question this way -- >> congratulations. >> -- i had no difficulty as secretary of defense moving from the bush administration to the obama administration. the situation in iraq, that path had already been cleared.
the president sent the -- the new president sent additional troops into afghanistan. he was as aggressive if not more so in going after terrorists and al qaeda. i think that the relationship with china has been managed pretty well. so, yeah, i think they've done a pretty good job. >> reporter: what is the difference in the way president obama acts in the counsels of national security policy and the way president bush acted? >> well, you just have to read about it in the book. >> reporter: well, i know. but give me a hint. i will. with great pleasure i will, and i look forward to having you to talk about the book when it comes out. give us a sense of how you see that. >> i think president obama goes out of his way to make sure he hears from everybody. he'll not only go around the table in the situation room, he'll go around the back bench to hear from the sort of second and third tier officials. president oba
president bush welcomed debate and discussion but he didn't point his finger at people and say, what do you think? >> reporter: what instincts did president bush have that president obama diplomat have? >> first of all, have you to put both these presidents when i knew them in perspective. president bush was in the last two years of eight years as president. he was never going to run for office again. and most of the big decisions had already been made. i worked for president obama in the very first two years of his administration. here's a president who knew from the beginning that he was going to run for re-election. but he also had a lot to learn in terms of the national security arena. frankly, i think he was an incredibly fast learner. and his desire to get a broad range of views was highly commendable.
>> reporter: we are sitting here on a campus created in 1693, second university created in the united states. it's full of history. and history is to be learned from. >> my favorite quote and i use it in commencement addresses is from john adams and it is to the effect that -- and it was in a letter to one of his sons and he wrote, public business must be done. it will be done one way or another. if wise men refuse it, others will not. if honest men refuse it, others will not. and then i always say, to these young people, will the wise and honest among you come help us? lead america? >> a couple of things about that john adams today would say wise men and wise women, for sure. >> for sure. >> this is an interesting man.
because he has served since 1966, eight presidents, the cia. he's been in part of really important decisions. he sat there in that situation room and heard about the problems with the helicopter, knowing that he'd been part of a team that was looking at the situation when jimmy carter's team went into iran and it failed. >> that's right. >> he said he almost had a heart attack because he thought, oh, my god, could it be happening again, you know? >> the whole story, though, charlie is so fascinating to get all the behind-the-scenes details. to hear they didn't know for sure that osama bin laden was in there. that was a wow for me. and for him to say he had a different idea how it should be handled and in the end president obama said we were going this way. did he feel sleighted the president didn't take his advice? >> oh, no. >> what was his feeling about that? >> that he owed it to the president to give him his best advice and he respected and
understood that it was the president's responsibility to choose from the advice that he got, but the loneness of the offense to have to make the choice and only the president can do that. >> yeah. >> interesting, too, and this touches on your point, gayle, what he said about the way president obama really polls everybody in the room. no one is safe in that environment. you need to have an opinion and back it up. >> that's it. they're both curious people. the other thing he said about that is only the toughest decisions come to the president. >> that's right. >> he has to decide -- >> once it reaches the president's level, it's a big one. >> the other interesting thing, in conversations like this, take place at william and mary, this is a man becoming the chancellor, which is a ceremonial job. george washington was the chancellor at william and mary. thomas jefferson graduated from william and mary and so did jon stewart. >> uh-huh. >> a scholar of comedy. >> what a fine note to close on,
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i'm not used to that but it's fine. >> it's moot they're going out of business. >> that's not moot. >> how is that not moot? >> it's totally moot. >> oh, america. >> what's a guy got to do around here to get a library card? >> the most important fashion in any german-speaking country, apart from germany. >> he's stealing from the company. >> how can you steal garbage? >> you could tuck it in your pants. ♪ >> you guys ready for what's coming? >> get set -- >> guess what? he won. that last clip is from "the dictator," his latest collaboration with sasha baron cohen opens today. i've seen your name on the
credits for years. i'm pleased you came today wearing clothes not your pajamas. >> it's a mass ka raid. if i take off my beard, i'm in disguise. >> what is it about pajamas? >> well, i was working 18 hours a day, 7 days a week. i was living at work. i thought, why not be comfortable? >> everybody lsd, we get it, we get it. i saw the movie yesterday. i have to say, it's an equal opportunity offender. >> fantastic. >> that should make you very proud. >> i am. >> i'm sitting there wul-w all these people. we i think pretty educated, very smart. i found myself laughing at the most inappropriate things. is that your goal? >> well, the goal is to obviously be funny. that's a very difficult task, obviously. and we are looking to make humor out of thing that are normally not funny. that's sort of one of the keys to this movie, is to take subject matter, contemporary issues, that are serious and sometimes grim and find humor and satirical areas.
>> what's the collaboration? >> there's a creative brain trust that has a dialect going. we have incredible debates about comedy, about all the aspects of the script and the shooting. so it's a continual collaboration, continual examination and analysis of what we're doing, trying to make a better trend, excavate all the goals from the script. >> how do you choose what you want to do now? >> i try to -- i mean, something like this, i had to do. that's my criteria. fy feel like i have to do it -- >> you feel like you had to? >> i felt like this movie needed to be out there. there's nothing like this out there, as the case with borat or bruno. these are movies that need to be out there, that people could laugh about these serious issues and think about it more deeply at the same sometime. that's an unbeatable combination to me. >> i look at your history, the shows you've been involved with, seinfeld, entourage.
you said your childhood is like lord of the flies in brooklyn. >> correct. >> what drives you today? i'm fascinated by your look. >> yes. >> explain your look to me. i'm not trying to be disrespectable -- >> the look revolved from having to go on the train in brooklyn at 3:00 in the morning and i didn't want people to hassle me. so my look is like -- >> you want them to think what? >> i want them to think, i'm going to mug the next person. i'm not going to hassle this guy. who knows what he's got in his pocket. that was kind of -- all humor, all those things were survival. >> i see that. >> but you're clearly very smart, larry charles. you're clearly very smart. >> what's your evidence to that? >> yeah. >> your writing -- i say this all the time, comedy really is a form of intelligence. i really do mean that. i look at your work and the things you've done. but when you say lord of the flies of brooklyn, what kind of childhood did you have? >> it was the -- >> that made you this. >> well, we were innocent kids exposed to a very harsh, brutal,
cold environment. new york city in the '70s, first of all, was a rough place. it was probably at its lowest ebb at that time. it was a sense of -- where i grew up in brook llyn was like soviet bloc, in a sense. too many kids, too many people squeezed into too small of an area like prisons and there's a dominance and submission that goes on in those conditions. >> was seinfeld a perfect storm in terms of you and larry david and jerry -- >> even nbc -- yes, i agree with you, because it was because nbc was in third place at the time. the show did not do well when it first came on the air. it was losing to a show called "jake and the fat man." we were losing in the ratings but nbc had nothing better to put on so they let the show stay on the air and it found its audience organically. >> when jerry decided to leave, they backed up a brinks truck and -- >> well, he deserves it. >> "the dictator", continued success. your track record is intact. >> thank you. >> it's hilarious and
hey, hey -- >> there he is. >> mr. bill plante. give it up for bill plante, one of the leaders of the "cbs this morning" team. >> cbs! cbs! >> with a fine chant. this morning in washington they were running to benefit wounded warriors. >> how long was the race again? >> 5k, about three miles. >> very good. >> congratulations to all down there.
>> not something i would ever do, but i'm cheering you on. >> i don't know, gayle, i say next year is in the black forest... [ thunder crashes ] [ engine revs, tires screech ] ...where things aren't always what they seem... because thrills hide in the shadows... just waiting at every turn. verbolten --