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i just don't know what i'm going to do without her. >> a woman distraught after an alleged drunk driver mows down her sister and husband killing them. that driver is now walking free. hello, i'm deborah norville. family members tell us the husband and wife were riding their tandem bicycle yesterday when that driver struck them. stephanie ramirez reports police say the driver is now out of jail. >> reporter: neighbors here tell us the accident happened in this area here just before 3:00 yesterday on tobacco road in calvert county. the sister one of the victims tells me she couldn't believe it when she found tout driver responsible was released on bond. police tell us 64-year-old john
and 58-year-old lynn were riding their tandem bicycle northbound when a driver in a jeep grand cherokee struck them from behind. first responders pronounced the woman dead at the scene. they were married 35 years. >> she was may only sister, and i just don't know what i'm going to do without her. >> we do not feel that it's right that a drunk person should be let out of jail so quickly and be free to do this again. >> reporter: family and friends tell us the two were bicycle safety had a vo cats. more at 11:00. stephanie ramirez, wusa 9 news. >> police identified that driver as 62-year-old katherine lyon who we learned has at least one prior charge, including intoxication. stephanie ramirez is hunting down the how and the why that lyon was released. a full report at 11:00. former u.s. senator fred thompson has died in tennessee
after a long battle with lymphoma. he was 73 years odd. he also acted in movies and tv including a long running role on the show law and order. he's survived by his wife and four children. right now in prince george's county an unusual vigil underway for a mother of four killed last week by her husband before he turned the gun on himself. police believe that murder- suicide took place inside the couple's home in upper marlboro after an argument. that's where we find garrett haake live with a vigil for the victim and her children already underway. >> reporter: the vigil wrapped up here. it was very short. but it drew a lot of people. several dozen folks came out to remember that 35-year-old mother of four who police say was gunned down right here by her husband who then turned the gun on himself. you can see a lot of the crowd still here. many are dressed alike.
wilkerson was a member of a motorcycle club. there are representatives from at least half a dozen motorcycle clubs here. the clubs made the biggest entrance, rolling in about an hour ago, rork into this quiet neighborhood of condos and family homes. wilkerson, as i said, was a biker, too. in fact, the president of the group. they said they wanted to send a message. >> domestic violence is not just a woman's issue. it's a man and a woman's issue. and it's not just physical. it's emotional. it's mental. folks should be aware of that. >> reporter: that was a big part of the message here. those folks said that was something wilkerson cared a lot about unlife something. they wanted to make sure they memorialized as part of her tragic death. garrett haake, wusa9.
>> wilkerson's motorcycle club is raising money to help support her children. what a scene. several d.c. firefighters needed rescuing themselves after their firetruck collided with a car on the way to respond to a burning apartment building. surae chinn has both stories. >> she was saying help me, help me, and she was scared because she was hanging out the window. >> reporter: this woman says she saw a grandmother and her teenage daughter hanging out of the window at the apartment building in the 100 block of ivanhoe street. >> i was like, oh my god, so i ran outside, put some shoes on and saw that black smoke coming out. >> reporter: firefighters broke the door to gain access to the building while firefighters rescued the woman from the second floor. firefighters tossed chairs and tables out the window to help control the fire. even with flames shooting from the second and third floors,
firefighters crashed into a car on the way. d.c. fire says the driver of a silver ford taurus pulled out in front of them two miles away. the car crushed, the fire truck received minor damage. rescue squad had to cut the people out of the car. eight people had to be transported, including four firefighters, all with minor injuries. another fire engine had to be called to respond to the apartment fire where carlotta logan says she was worried about her grandson and pregnant daughter. >> i just grabbed her and said thank you jesus. >> the people involved in that car crash are expected to be okay. the person hurt in the apartment fire is also expected to be okay screw. one man is dead, another wounded after a double stack in langley park. police found the victims this morning. one man was pronounced dead at
the scene, the other taken to the hospital. his name and condition hasn't been released yet. turning to our weather it looks like november is getting off to a hot start. i'm not complaining. let's check in with first alert meteorologist howard bernstein. how is it out there? >> it's pretty good out here. very comfortable. temperatures in the 50s and 60s. we had cloud cover most of the day. that kind of kept a lid on the temperatures. all that rain through the carolinas is probably going to stay down there. i think we're going to see some of that maybe inch up towards fredericksburg tomorrow, but mainly dry. it's 59 at dulles, 64 at reagan national. a quick look at your monday forecast. could be some showers south. they may even sneak into st. mary's and northern neck. highs tomorrow in the mid-60s. but after that, we have a lot
of 70-degree readings in that seven-day forecast for the rest of the week. i'll have that in about six or seven minutes. >> thank you so much howard. coming up, investigators digging through debris looking for clues in the crash of a russian plane. and did a medical condition contribute to a deadly halloween accident? >> he may be d.c.'s best known pup. he's bunce. wusa9's service dog in training. he's got 100,000 on-line followers and plenty of
the university of virginia is warning students after a woman reported being sexually assaulted this morning just steps from uva's campus. officials say it was after 12:15 this morning when a 19- year-old man sexually assaulted a woman on rugby road. they say the two are not believed to be students at the school and that they knew each other. police in winston-salem are searching for a gunman after a deadly shooting at the university. the school had been on lockdown for a time, but classes are scheduled to resume tomorrow. more than 100 experts are headed to egypt to assist the authorities there in that search for more bodies and debris from that metro jet airbus crash saturday. russia's top aviation official says the plane had broken up at high altitude. 224 people were on board. it crashed in the sinai peninsula saturday morning a
little more than 20 minutes after take-off on its way to st. petersburg. several airlines say they will stop flying over the peninsula until the cause of the crash has been determined. in new york, police say a driver who plowed into a group of trick or treaters may have suffered some sort of, quote, medical event. three people were killed, and several others hurt when a 63- year-old man struck the car in front of his, then launched over the sidewalk, through a fence, and slammed into a wall. one of those victims is a 10- year-old girl would was trick or treating with her grandfather. both were killed in that crash. >> we heard the bam, boom, boom, the cars hitting each other and the car flying, and then we were hearing screams. you can't imagine that something like that is real. it looked like something from a war movie. >> how terrible. witnesses say one of the victims was crushed under the car. well, if you like the temperatures today, i bet you are going to like howard's
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people in part of texas are hoping for a break tonight from massive flooding. roads in some parts of the state were shut down after more than a foot of rain soaked the area. many homes had been flooded during this wndopour. people who live there say it's the worst flooding they've zion years. the houston area got hammered. they had some severe weather as well with wind damage. >> nothing going on like that here what. a beautiful day. >> in spite of the clouds it was really nice. >> still warm. >> we had a couple of showers early but it ended up being a pretty decent day for any outdoor activities once you got past that early shower. tonight if you have plans, just maybe want to keep the windows open -- >> or watch the world series.
>> yeah, we'll talk about that later on. still 64 degrees with cloudy skies. winds south-southwesterly at 6. humidity up at 78%. temperatures generally in the sit, although harrisonburg was 73 today. 40s in the mountains, with 50s and low 60s so a fairly comfortable air mass. the storm system is going to slide to our south monday. that means some clouds. some rain makes into it virginia. richmond south will maybe see steadier rain. fredericksburg, st. mary's county might get a couple of showers. northern neck, too. 70 degrees or better tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday, maybe into saturday as well. this coming weekend it looks unsettled. we've got a lot of unsettled weather to talk about.
in the west and northwest we've got this onshore flow. so rain and mountain snows. but we showed you the flooding from texas. you can see the upper storm back here. still looking at lots of rain in east texas. all this rain off the gulf bringing strong thunderstorms to western florida and the deep south. then the cooler rain which was into the carolinas and southeastern virginia. we stayed with showers this morning, but it is going to be a quiet night. lots of clouds. temperatures 50s and 40s by tomorrow morning. but any showers tonight staying well south. so here we are at 6:30 on monday morning. you see the showers not quite to fredericksburg, sneaking into st. mary's county. i don't think they're going to make it much farther than that. i don't think they make it farther than. that by midday we're looking at clouds with rain showers pulling away. by the end of the day i think we'll see some sunshine start to break out, especially north
and west. it's funny with the time change, people here are saying, why am i so hungry? because it seems like it's 7:47. we'll eat after the show. cloudy and cool tonight, light winds. tomorrow morning those shower threats south. in the afternoon, still a good deal of clouds and sun, especially as you go to the north. highs in the 62 to 67 range, wind east-southeast at 5 miles per hour. that fast forecast on tuesday, warm and dry, 70, a shower threat wednesday, low 70s. as we head toward thursday and friday, possibly upper 70s friday, and we'll see if we can keep it dry for the terps and wisconsin. >> that won't be easy. >> he does weather and sports. >> the skins are off today but we still had a lot of great football action. a lot of devastating injuries.
if you're looking for excitement, cozy up in your favorite chair and watch ravens- chargers over the last couple of seasons. they eased some of the best finishes in all of football. last year was 34-33 at m&t. a few years ago that infamous 4th and 29 game won by the ravens. today ray lewis, preacher ray pumping the crowd up. boy, tough blow for the ravens, though. third quarter, steve smith makes the catch, but afterwards, watch it, he reaches for his achilles
tendon. he knew it right away. torn achilles. done for the year. he had the towel over his face because he is one of the ultimate warriors. it was just emotional for him. fourth quarter, joe flacco, that 6' 6" body bangs across baltimore. so we had ourselves a cracking good ball game like we always do when these two play. fourth quarter, 3rd and long. tied. flacco incomplete, but bailed out by the zebras. that is interference. that sets up the best kicker in the game. he didn't even have to look. money. baltimore wins 29-2. >> that second to last drive was a big one. getting the ball in the end zone and not having to settle for a field goal, that was the big one. getting it down in the range and let tucker do his job. >> and tucker do his dance. that was pretty good. steelers-bengals. ben roethlisberger back for
first time since week two to antonio brown on the first drive of the game. antonio brown says, hallelujah! low scoring game. andy dalton to a.j. green to make it 16-10. >> are those throw-backs or prison uniforms? >> both. ben trying to get out of jail late. steps up in the pocket, hits brown, but out of bounds. bengals undefeated, 7-0 with a 16-10 win. boy, the browns and the cardinals. browns at cardinals, they had them back into a corner, but here comes carson palmer. arizona scores 27 straight. they win 34-20. all right, washington on a bye week, of course, and feeling really good with a 3-4 record. let's call it what it is. they're playing better than a lot of people expected them to. coming up tonight myself and nfl analyst donte' stallworth going to break down the burgundy and gold on game on --
on "game on overtime." drew brees here, one of his seven touchdowns. they still needed a field goal late to win. it came down to the field goals. saints winning it 52-49. remember that guy? former skins kicker wins it 52- 49 for the saints. the lions and chief playing the early morning game. well, early for us, 3:30 for london time. detroit played it like it was early for then. the chiefs blowing them out 45- 10. i don't think the lions woke up. >> they were in another time zone. >> chiefs win it 45-10. that's the football thing from american football to futball. d.c. united had a tough finish to the season. ended up in fourth place and got bumped to the elimination round. they won that which leads them to today's conference
semifinals. 59th minute, scoreless game, but the red bulls almost changedded that. off the woodwork. still scoreless. close but no cigar. 12 minutes later, though, new york gets on the board. mccarty heads it home. red bulls win 1-0. d.c. united will need to outscore new york by two or more goals in the second leg to advance. final story of the night. legendary virginia tech coach frank beamer announced he is retiring at the end of the season. the range beamer has been -- frank beamer has been synonymous with virginia football. today he announces his retirement, at the end of the season. >> a little sad and tearful. >> 59 years old, i believe. and some say it's getting to that time. but he's been a great football coach for virginia tech. we wish him well. >> excellent. oh, speaking of football, i
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lucrative markets-- suburbs all across the country. it's basic economics-- the dealers are going where the money is. and they're cultivating a new set of consumers-- high school students, college athletes, teachers, and professionals. heroin is showing up everywhere in places like columbus, ohio. the area has long been viewed as so typically middle american that, for years, many companies have gone there to test new products. we went to the columbus suburbs to see how heroin is taking hold in the heartland. i'm sitting here looking at you, and you look young and fresh, you're the... you're the girl next door. and you were addicted to heroin. >> hannah morris: i mean, obviously, it's very flattering that you say, like, i don't look like a junkie. but even miss america could be a junkie. i mean, anybody can be a junkie. >> whitaker: hannah morris is in college now. she says she's been clean for a
year, but in high school, she was using heroin. hannah lives outside columbus, in the upper-middle class suburb of worthington. her parents are professionals. the median income here is $87,000 a year. before she got hooked on heroin, hannah thought it was just another party drug. how did you get to those depths? what was the path you took? >> morris: it started with weed, and it was fun and i got to good weed. went to... oh, my gosh, i went to pills, and it was still fun-- you know, percocet, xanax, vicodin, all that kind of stuff. and then, yeah, heroin. i started smoking it at first. >> whitaker: so you were what, 15? >> morris: yeah. and i was like, "oh, my gosh, that was amazing." >> whitaker: you remember it even now? >> morris: oh, yeah. let's say i've never done a drug in my life. i would normally be happiness at a six or a seven at a scale out of ten, you know. and then you take heroin and you're automatically at a 26. and you're like, "i want that again." >> whitaker: hannah says the heroin was so addictive that,
rather quickly, she and several other students went from smoking it at parties to shooting it up at high school. >> morris: like, doing it at school in the bathroom. >> whitaker: a syringe? >> morris: a syringe. i would have it in my purse, all ready to go. >> whitaker: jenna morrison has struggled to remain clean for almost three years. she comes from a town that is smaller and more rural than hannah's. jenna says her addiction started with legal opiates- pain pills you can get with a prescription. chemically, they're almost identical to heroin. >> jenna morrison: i got on pain pills pretty bad when i was probably between 15 and 16. >> whitaker: and the heroin came... >> morrison: when i was 18. >> whitaker: was it an easy transition from the pain pills to heroin? >> morrison: very, because i didn't realize at the time that heroin is an opiate. i didn't know that that was the same thing as the pills that i was using. >> whitaker: why were you using all these drugs? >> morrison: i'm in a small town.
there was nothing to do. and i was hanging out with older people. so, that was our way of having fun, partying. >> mike dewine: this is the worst drug epidemic i've seen in... in my lifetime. >> whitaker: mike dewine is the attorney general of ohio. he's a former u.s. senator, congressman, and a county prosecutor. we met him at a state crime lab outside columbus. >> dewine: it's in every single county. it's in our cities, but it's also in our wealthier suburbs. it's in our small towns. there is no place in ohio where you can hide from it. >> whitaker: it's that pervasive? >> dewine: there is no place in ohio where you couldn't have it delivered to you in 15, 20 minutes. >> morris: i can text and say, "hey do you have this?" we can meet. they would bring it to my house, leave it under the mat. it's pretty easy to get. >> whitaker: full service. >> morris: uh-huh, yeah. to me, it was easier to get than weed or cocaine, definitely easier.
>> whitaker: dealers with connections to the mexican cartels sell heroin everywhere, even in this department store parking lot outside columbus. >> he'll be coming out of that car right there. >> whitaker: our cameras captured the purchase of this heroin by an undercover police informant. what is this? >> so this is a couple types of heroin that we see. >> whitaker: attorney general mike dewine's staffers say the mexican heroin can be cheap-- $10 a hit or less. some of it is cut with other drugs that make it even more powerful and deadly. and dealers keep inventing new ways to outwit law enforcement. and what do you have here? >> these are actually tablets. so they are pressed to look like a actual prescription tablet, but they contain heroin. >> whitaker: heroin in pill form. >> that look like pills, correct. >> whitaker: this... this is new. >> very new. we've only seen a few cases in the lab. >> whitaker: and something else mike dewine says is new since his days as a county prosecutor- - heroin has lost its stigma as a poisonous, back alley drug.
>> dewine: there's no psychological barrier anymore that stops a young person or an older person from taking heroin. >> whitaker: so, who is the typical heroin user in ohio today? >> dewine: anybody watching today this show. it could be your family. there's no typical person. it just has permeated every segment of society in ohio. >> whitaker: even the well-to-do town of pickerington, 30 minutes outside of columbus. tyler campbell was a star of the high school football team. he went on to play division one at the university of akron. for tyler, heroin wasn't a party drug. his parents, wayne and christy campbell, say his heroin habit grew from his addiction to opiate painkillers, prescribed legally after he injured his shoulder. what were the pills? >> christy campbell: it was vicodin. >> wayne campbell: vicodin. he had 60 vicodin for his shoulder surgery. >> whitaker: that's a normal prescription?
>> wayne campbell: for that procedure. >> whitaker: it's easy for kids to sell their excess pills. they're popular recreational drugs in high schools and colleges, so much in demand that one pill can cost up to $80. pill addicts like tyler often switch to heroin because it's a cheaper opiate with a bigger high. tyler was in and out of rehab four times. the night he came home the last time, he couldn't fight the uncontrollable urge that is heroin addiction. he shot up in his bedroom and died of a heroin overdose. he wasn't the only addict on his college football team. >> wayne campbell: unfortunately, the quarterback died four months after tyler, in 2011, same situation. >> christy campbell: same-- accidental overdose. >> first of all, if you don't talk about it, right? >> whitaker: after tyler died, the campbells met many families whose children were heroin addicts in the suburbs of columbus. like tyler, most got hooked on pills first. started with pain pills? >> absolutely.
>> whitaker: t.j. and heidi riggs' daughter died of a heroin overdose. marin was a high school basketball player and captain of her golf team. lea heidman and brian malone's daughter alyssa died of an overdose earlier this year. brenda stewart has two sons in recovery. tracy morrison is jenna morrison's mother, and has a second daughter who is also a recovering addict. rob brandt's son was an addict. >> rob brandt: he battled it through high school. >> whitaker: he says his son robby got hooked on pain pills prescribed by a dentist after his wisdom teeth were removed. he was in training with the national guard, hoping to serve in afghanistan. >> brandt: and when he came home, he met up with an old friend that he used to buy and sell prescription medications with, and that old friend introduced him to heroin. and we did the... we did rehab, we did relapse, we did rehab, and he got clean. but the drug called his name again and... and he said yes, and that was the last time and he passed from an accidental overdose.
>> whitaker: for many of these parents, the hardest thing to accept was losing their children after they thought they'd finally beaten the addiction. >> lea heidman: she passed away the day after st. patrick's day. and she posted on st. patrick's day a picture of her on her laptop, studying, doing homework, saying, "no partying for me, not even a single drink. i'm staying in and i'm... and i'm working." and the next day she used, and that was the last time she used. >> tracy morrison: i am a nurse... >> whitaker: tracy morrison, jenna's mother, trained to be a nurse more than 30 years ago. she says the medical profession must bear some responsibility for the heroin epidemic. she says doctors over-prescribe pain medications. >> tracy morrison: i graduated in the '80s. i was a nursing director when we decided to swing the pendulum from not treating pain to treat everybody's pain. i was a part of that.
and at that time, i had no idea that we were addicting people. >> whitaker: last year, three quarters of a billion pain pills were prescribed by doctors in ohio-- nearly 65 pills for every man, woman and child in the state. how did you respond when your daughters told you they were using heroin? >> tracy morrison: well, they first told me they were using the pills, and how i found out they were using heroin was i came home from work one day, made dinner, and i was yelling for my youngest daughter to come for dinner and she didn't. and i walked into her bedroom and her boyfriend was shooting her up. >> whitaker: you saw this? >> tracy morrison: i saw it. >> whitaker: what did you do? >> tracy morrison: dropped the plate of food. i dropped it. and i was hysterical. >> whitaker: tracy's daughter jenna is 25 now. she knows she's lucky to be alive. >> jenna morrison: in my addiction, i have been to rehab 17 times, and i had been to jail six or seven times.
so every time i went to jail, i got out, went to rehab, came home and relapsed, and then did it all over again. >> whitaker: you overdosed, as well? >> morrison: uh-huh. >> whitaker: how many times? >> morrison: i only overdosed once, and i woke up in an ambulance. >> whitaker: jenna would have died if emergency medical technicians hadn't injected her with naloxone hydrochloride, also called narcan. it quickly reverses the effects of opiates in the brain. >> so this is the kit... >> whitaker: the heroin problem in ohio is so big, families and friends of addicts-- not just health professionals-- are being taught to administer narcan, which is now available without a prescription. >> this is what it looks like. this is the little purple cap, actually is the medication. >> tracy morrison: this is a hurricane. >> whitaker: though she's a nurse, tracy morrison says, at first, she had no idea her daughters were addicts. neither did the other parents. but they feel they missed all the signs and let their children
down. you feel guilty? >> every day. >> heidi riggs: you lost the battle, so you're always going to say, "is there something i could have done differently? is... you know, did... why didn't i notice it when i had missing spoons that it wasn't because, you know, they left cereal bowls upstairs. it was actually because, you know, she was using them to shoot heroin." but who would have thought our children would ever do heroin? >> whitaker: all of these parents say they wanted to talk to us because too many other families are embarrassed, in denial about their kids' heroin use. these parents say the stigma and shame are compounding the epidemic. >> heidi riggs: no one was talking about that we had heroin in pickerington. and so, for us, we were total shock when it happened. and... but the struggle was the stigma. >> brenda stewart: never say, "not my child." >> yeah, right. >> brenda stewart: because you never know. it could end up being your child. >> brian malone: you never want to get that call. you never want to get that call. >> whitaker: the call you got?
>> brian malone: the call you got, and we got the call. >> whitaker: today, heroin overdoses take the lives of at least 23 people in ohio every week. we were told many other heroin deaths go unreported. i'm sure there are some who would be watching this and would say, "heroin addicts are junkies and they brought this on themselves, so why should we care?" >> tracy morrison: because we don't throw diabetics who sit on the couch eating bonbons and smoke and they weigh 300 pounds in prison. we don't belittle them, and there's not a big stigma. we don't do that to people that chain smoke and develop lung cancer. it's a chronic, relapsing brain disease, period, amen, end of story. and we need to accept it, even if it makes people uncomfortable. and if people don't like that, i'm sorry.
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>> stahl: every time there's a massacre at a school, like the recent one in oregon, it re- ignites the debate for more gun control-- not only because of the mass shootings, but because of the hundreds of incidents of gun violence every day on our streets and in our homes. one idea that keeps coming up is smart guns. these are firearms that only work when they're fired by their owner. it seems that "gee whiz" technology is seeping into every corner of our lives. why not guns? in the 2012 movie "skyfall," "q" gives james bond a smart gun that only he can activate. >> it's been coded to your palm print, so only you can fire it. >> stahl: later, when the bad guy gets a hold of it... >> good luck with that.
>> stahl: firearms that recognize only their owner aren't just the stuff of movies. army veteran tom lynch is developing a touch-pad scanner that recognizes fingerprints, like an iphone. add it to an existing gun and it's a smart gun. so, it's recognizing you? there you go. >> tom lynch: it's recognizing me. >> stahl: okay. >> lynch: now. >> stahl: now. >> lynch: it's unlocked. it's still on "fire." >> stahl: let me try it. let's see if i can... >> lynch: now pull the trigger. >> stahl: i can't even pull the trigger. oh. >> lynch: that's the point. >> stahl: it's locked. >> lynch: it's locked. >> stahl: other inventors are working on guns that recognize the squeeze of your grip, or unlock wirelessly if the shooter wears a watch or a ring. these guns would not have prevented many of the mass shootings because the gunmen owned the firearms, but smart gun advocates say they could counter this all-too-common grim reality...
>> a 14-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed his nine-year-old brother. >> stahl: ...children shot and killed by other children. >> a tragic shooting-- two friends playing with a gun when it goes off. >> stahl: smart guns could curtail the number of suicides, and cut down on the resale of stolen guns, estimated to be 230,000 every year. what good is a gun no one but the owner can fire? >> shots fired in johnson city. we have an officer down. >> stahl: and they would help on-duty cops. >> there was a struggle, and clark grabbed officer smith's gun and shot him two times." >> stahl: and yet, with at least a half-dozen smart guns in advanced development and some ready for manufacturing, no major u.s. gun company is making them, and no gun dealer is willing to sell them. why? well, consider what happened to one maryland gun dealer who tried. >> andy raymond i like the way sterling arsenal actually painted this thing. >> stahl: last year, andy
raymond, co-owner of engage armament, announced that he'd sell the armatix ip1, a smart pistol made in germany. who did you think would be interested in that kind of a gun? >> raymond: typically, what i like to call "fence sitters," so people who aren't normally into guns and don't normally want one. you know, "i'm too afraid" or whatever. >> stahl: did you anticipate the reaction that you got? >> raymond: no. >> stahl: within minutes of his announcement, angry emails and phone calls started coming. >> raymond: we got about 2,000 phone calls and maybe about the same emails. >> stahl: all against? >> raymond: yeah, that was just in one day. i mean, it was insane. i mean, one person threatened to burn down the shop. another person threatened that i would be raped-- that was classic. >> stahl: you would be raped? >> raymond: yeah. >> stahl: did you get any death threats? >> raymond: yeah. the crazies did come out of the woodwork. >> stahl: that's him that night, shaved head and whiskey bottle at his side. he stayed in his store to guard it and posted this video on facebook. >> raymond: so anyway, obviously, i received numerous
death threats today. i really ( bleep ) appreciate that. i think that's ( bleep ) classy. that's a great thing for gun rights when you threaten to shoot somebody. >> stahl: he thinks the campaign against him was viral, not organized by the gun lobby. though, in his rant, he wondered why gun lovers and the national rifle association would oppose the sale of any gun. >> raymond: how can the n.r.a. or people want to prohibit a gun when we're supposed to be pro gun? we're supposed to say that any gun is good, in the right person's hands. how can they say that a gun should be prohibited? how hypocritical is that? if you believe in the second amendment, and the second amendment is absolute-- that the right of people to keep and bears arms shall not be infringed-- then you should be able to buy whatever you want. >> stahl: what andy didn't realize is that there's a long, beleaguered history to these devices. 15 years ago, gun maker smith and wesson promised the clinton white house to develop smart guns as part of a deal to fend off liability litigation. >> bill clinton: under the
agreement, smith and wesson will develop smart guns that can be fired only by the adults who own them. >> stahl: the gun lobby organized a boycott against smith and wesson, seeing smart guns and other concessions in the deal as part of the gun control agenda. factories closed, employees were laid off, and after that, no big u.s. gun maker ever went near a smart gun. >> steve sanetti: there's a lot... lot of skepticism and a lot of resistance to them. >> stahl: steve sanetti, president of the gun lobby and trade group the national shooting sports foundation, represents over 12,000 gun makers, dealers, and businesses. does your organization see the smart gun as gun control? >> sanetti: people that own guns are not the ones saying, "i'm the one that wants this. please develop it." it's coming from the gun control side. it's coming from people who, frankly, really want to put as many obstacles to a gun going off as they can. >> stahl: why are dealers who want to sell it, why are they being intimidated not to?
why not let the market decide? people don't want it, don't buy it. >> sanetti: well, i agree. we think the market should be able to decide that. we have never fought the idea that dealers can put them on the shelves. it's totally up to the marketplace and the dealers. >> stahl: so where is that fight coming from? >> sanetti: that's the point. people don't understand the passion that firearms owners have for the firearms that they own. >> stahl: the passion has been fueled by the n.r.a., which says on its legislative web site, smart guns could open the door to a ban on all other guns. why do they say that? well, it's actually happened. in 2002, new jersey's governor signed a law that became known as "the mandate." >> sanetti: there is a statute in the state of new jersey that would say that, once a gun like this is offered for sale anywhere, that's the only kind of gun that could be sold. >> stahl: if these guns are sold in wyoming or california, this triggers the law? >> sanetti: uh-huh. >> stahl: that everybody in new jersey has to have that. >> sanetti: right. >> stahl: loretta weinberg, the
new jersey state senator who authored the law, didn't foresee its consequences. >> loretta weinberg: we passed that bill to help spur this technology. >> stahl: it appears it totally backfired because it spurred this passionate objection to the gun... >> weinberg: because of the intervention of the n.r.a. and the second amendment folks. >> stahl: ...that they say the reason they intervened is because of the mandate. >> weinberg: right. it isn't the law that's stopped the development. it is the people who threatened folks who actually wanted to sell such a gun. >> stahl: andy raymond came to realize that, even if he had sold the armatix gun in maryland, it might've triggered the mandate, banning the sale of regular handguns in new jersey. >> raymond: the people of new jersey-- my apologies. you got nothing to worry about from me. i did apologize. i'm... i'm sorry. sorry to this day. >> stahl: did you actually sell any of the armatix guns? >> raymond: no. >> stahl: after his case came to
her attention, the new jersey senator offered to rescind the mandate if the gun lobby publicly removed its opposition to smart guns. she's yet to hear back. >> weinberg: they seem to oppose almost everything. anytime we suggest anything, we've gotten very little cooperation back. >> stahl: if the law were completely repealed, do you think that the gun lobby would then let this go forward? >> weinberg: no. >> sanetti: why are you trying to take my firearm, which i store safely and properly and i've never had problems with it, and add something to it that's going to make it more prone to failure? >> stahl: what about the argument that we have seat belts. we have air bags, they're mandatory. >> sanetti: uh-huh. >> stahl: why not make a safe gun mandatory? >> sanetti: firearms are safe. the firearms manufacturers include appropriate locking devices for their guns along with them when they're shipped. they may be low tech, but they work. >> stahl: he says adding high- tech to guns may make them less safe.
for example, the batteries that operate the smart guns. >> sanetti: we've all had battery-operated devices where the battery dies. >> stahl: so the people who are working on this tell us that the batteries will have a ten-year life. >> sanetti: what about the 11th year? >> stahl: well, you change the battery. >> sanetti: if you remember, if... >> stahl: no, you're going to get a warning. >> sanetti: if the gun is stored inside a cabinet, or a box, or a safe or something like that, you might not see the warning. >> stahl: other concerns-- will fingerprints work in snow and rain? will they work if you're sweating because an intruder entered your home? could guns using wireless technology be hacked, or jammed and disabled remotely by the government? >> sanetti: we have to be careful not to fall into the technology trap. it doesn't solve every problem. it's great. we're not luddites, we're not here saying that technology is a bad thing. technology obviously improves our life in many ways. but i think you have to look at firearms in a slightly different way. their mechanisms are the way they are over centuries of development. they're... they're at that state