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publicly shamed by an administration official. attorney general jefli sessions got it2fpom the very top. >> very disappointed with the attorney general. we will see what happens.ñi time will tell. >> dickerson: unlike the chief of staff, sessions is refusing to quit. >> well, it's hard but the president of the united states is añi strong leader. >> dickerson: not strong enough to convince republican senators to pass the health careñi bill. president tweeted that the senate republicansó look like fools.ñe@6c0@6cj&4-aúheñr threaó healthcare and criticize them openly. >> boy, oh, boy, they have beeni working that one for seven years, can you believe that? >> dickerson: some republicans haveçó had enough. >>çó i will not vote for this bl as it is today. >> dickerson: ailing john mccain joined two other g.o.p. senators cast te
this round of efforts to repeal and replace. mccain not the only one toñi say enough is enough we'll hearçó fm his arizonañr colleague, jeff flake, whose stunning new book "conscience of a conservative" says the republican party hasñ lost its way in the age of trump. democratic senator dianne feinstein will also be with us. and we'll assess the president's job performance. here is how he sees himself. >> with the exception of the late, great abraham lincoln, i can be more presidential than any president that's ever held this office, that i can tell you. >> dickerson: but do his supporters feel he's presidential or temperamental. we have surprising new nation tracker poll numbers. plus plenty of political analysis on the week andñi more. it's all coming up on "face ther nation." good morning, welcome to "face thex
major garrett and whiteñr house andçó senior foreign affairs4bc. northçó korea this news of icbm test, what is the show. >> rattling in direct to northçó korea you have fly over, you have hadñi a missile testç immediately after. north korean test jointly with south korean force all of this is meant to dissuade further test, but look, this is the second intercontinental ballistic missile test in a month.ñr and this one flew longer and farther distance than previous one july 4th. this seems to be according to outside experts demonstrating that this missile becauseñr it went 3700 kilometers into space, that kind of energy shows itçó could hit the continental unite& states. depending won't confirmñlthis, also won't confirm on status of whether they have been able toñ3 miniaturize. these numbersdó this
causing some deep concerns that north korea is progressing faster and much more rapidly towards the abilityñi to actualy arm a nuclear missile.çó >> dickerson: major, the president's response. he has been working onñr getting the chinese to put pressure onñi the northçó koreans but tweeted recently we will no longer allow this toçó continue, china could easily solve this problem before he said well heñi understood it wasn't so easy, what'sñr the -- >> threats añr culture of bureaucracy more immune from2tje improvisational thançóñi twitter than china. they do not think of this term, these difficulties in terms of presidential tweets or momentary thoughts from the president of the united states. it has at president has concedeó occasionallyçó lots of diverse interests involved here. and it is trying to apply as much pressure as it cinz against north korea but it is clear as margaret indicated that north korea not only moving faster but more aggressively than i
has under any other previous administration. that makes this within the councils of the white house and pentagon the number one strategic challenge for this president. at a time when what the white house is radiating not just our country but to the world an atmosphere of instabilityñi and minimum chaos maximum. these things are colliding just about the worst time. >> dickerson: let me ask you about reince priebus the chief of staff, was he ever given a chance to do his job? >> initially, yes. but one of the problems for this white house is the president himself in the sense that he does not adhere to any traditional or even historically rational organizational system for his own white house.he liker six different people walk into the west wing every day believing they are, for a moment, the effective chief of staff. he likes thatñi rivalry, that embedded, intense competition but what it does is it prevents any sort of flowñif
policies, debate and projection out to the rest of the administration with what the white house intend to do and explainedçó to theñiñr country.ó >> dickerson: margaret, secretary kelly is now, first amuck equals what is his role, >> if you're betting that a general is going toñr clean this up and institute a chain of command much as he would like to it's going to require culture shift from what major justñi described. it's in the clear that the president is going to do that. does anthony scaramucci or kellyanne conway no longer have the right to walk into the oval but first check in with the chief of staff, i don't knowñ that's that is going change. but for general kelly going to be really interesting to watch him, how does his insertion there change the ability to interact with capitol hill he doesn't have political experience, he'sñr talked in war that they don't have lot of favor or like dealing either with the press or withñr politicia he likes policy and getting things done. how do you match that with the job requirements there? how is he going to interact with
say, national security advisor,i h.r. mcmaster who is three!fkj& stars to his four. how does thatñr interact, how ds that institute and affect some of the foreign policy challenges that are very, very real. >> dickerson: final question to you major one of the job of chief of staff is to tell the president no, anthony scaramucci says we need this president -- >> he told yes all the time. yes in big bold letter as if there is any lack of big bold letters in the white house. saying, yes, to the president. the other issue for general 8:00ly will be the assumption going in, you can see this in #e president loves generals, he respects them and deals with them. well, look at the most recent evidence. hisñr general who defense secretary taken by surprise by this transdepend areçóñi announcement, a show of minimum disrespect and disorganization h.r. mcmaster comes in and out of favor. a former general who can never know what his status with the president s. you can assume that there's soñr
respect toñi generals but it hasn't played out and as margaret saibv this is about the culture of the president and how he treats his job and those around him. ifñi that doesn't change, more f the same. >> dickerson: thanks so much. we turn now to the increasingly strained relations between senate republicans and the president.çó made worse this week by republican defections on healthcare and the president's continued criticism of his attorney general. former alabama senator jeff sessions. the man the president calls beleaguered got a strong show of support from hisñ colleague chuck grassley who tweeted, committee agenda set, a.g., no way, meaning no time for confirming a new one. lindsey graham made his case to reporters. >> if jeff sessions is firedñr, there will be holy hell to pay.o any effort to go after mueller could be theñr beginning of the end of the trump presidency unless mueller did
wrong. >> dickerson: nebraska went to the senate floor. >> if you are thinking ofñi makg a rece the attorney general, forget about it. the presidency isn't a bull and this country isn't a china shop. >> dickerson: as did john mccain who deliveredñr blistering speech about government dysfunction. >> we're gngettihi notngçó done, my friends, we're getting nothing done.çóçó whether or not we are of theñi same party, we are not thexd president subordinates we are his equal. >> dickerson: that brings us to the other senator from arizona, jeff flake, who the "new york times" columnistñr david brooksó writes, is sunny and kind in a time when politics has become a blood sport he joins us to talki about his new book, "conscience of a conservative" a rejection of he destructive politicsñi and return to principle. welcome, senator. >> thanks for having me on. dickerson: why did you write the book? >> i felt just like goldñi waltr felt in his time, 56 years ago when h
that the party hat lost its way. and i think similarly today the party's lost its way. we've given in to nativism andñr protectionism and i think that if we're going to be a governing party in the future, majority party, we've got to go back to traditional conservatism. limited government, economic freedom, individual responsibility, respect for free trade, those are the principles that made us who we are. >> dickerson: one of the thing you write in the book is, it is not enough to be conservative any more, you have to be vicious. what do you mean by that? >> well, if you look at the politics of today, the tape from last week of the white house and the language that was used, we've seen unfortunately too many examples of members of aongress and other elected officials using languageñr, referring to your opponents in ways that you would have never done before,
motives to your opponents and assuming that other americans are the enemy.ñi and that is just not the way it used to be. i don't think it can be that way in the future. >> dickerson: is it your view that that kind of behavior is bad on its own terms, but also getting in the way, it's blocking out? >> you bet. there are big issues that we've got to solve.a3 talked about north korea the difficult foreign policy, things that we have to do. but that and deficit, for example. health care reform, these are things that can't be done by onó party. we just seen the limits of what one party can do. even if you change the rules of the senate which we should not do. there are limits to what one party can do. if we're going to solve the debt problem, $20 trillion of debt we're going to be running deficits again over a trillion dollars soon. those require both parties sitting together and shar
risk and it's hard to imagine that can happen when we're ascribing the worst motives to opponents. >> dickerson: in the book you obviously talk about the president, we'll get to that. you say in the book, but donald trump is not the source code for our obsession with the politics of personal destruction. our cries has many fathers amoni them to newñi england, the moden progenitor. >> i got toñi congress in 2001 myself and mike pence, we had runñi conservative think tanks n thet( '90s, got elected together andñ2hut sat next toçó each othr early on i remember him saying he felt like that we were minutemen called up to the bu1 nukes of ideas was over. we've given in to the politics of personal destruction. and quickly to a lot of spending and other things that really i think made the ground fertii for the type of politics that we have today. and that's
i think we as republicans kind of gave away the limited governmentxd mantel when we spet like crazy in 2000, 2006 while4n both houses and the white house. and then that forced us to delve into the u burning or the case of terry shivo or things like that, now we've, i think, taken up a banner that sñi not familiar tos is one of intenseñi nationalism, nativism and sometimes xenophobia. >> dickerson: you're arguing for the standard that people maintain regardless why is it so hard to stick to that standard? >> i think with around the clock media coverage andñr socialñr ma now, it all kind of drives us apart.çó it i think certainly modern media culture, values those who yell the loudt.
so, the tougher path is frankly to have the kind of demeanor that some people might call bullying, but you've gotñi to me ahead and tackle the policy issues and the problem is, this is very muchñi getting in the wy of us solving the problems that we've got to solve. >> dickerson: making the case for those conservative ideas, you also say this about character. we cannot claim to place the highest premium on character than abruptly sauce suspend the importance of character in the vital civic decision, when we excuse on our side we're hypocrites, if we do that asñi practice we're corrupt, if we continually accept this cone duct as elected officials then perhaps we shouldn't be elected officials. are republican leaders complicit in this if they don't call out their president? >> iñr do think so. i think thatñi thing you want to do is wake up every morning and see a tweet think i'm just -- it's tough not to just say, i'm not going to
respond and we can't respond to everything. but there are times when you have to stand up and say, i'm sorry, this is wrong.ñr there are truths that are self evident. and you've got to stand up and call, whether it's the white houseñr or other electedçó offis to task when they're not doing what they should. i do think that we bear the responsibility if we're elected officials to do that. >> dickerson: what i hear from republican ladiers is, sure, úth the things that the president does, he is able to sign taxñi reform, health care if it passes and other things that are part of core conservative principle and so while they may have some quibbles with the way he behaves, he is the pathway to get some things passed that would help in terms of conservative ideas. >> some things that the president hasñr done that i've agreed with whole heartedly. working with us on the regulator radio restate makingçó sureñr tt regulation don'tñi hamper busins growth, that's been a boon to the economy. th
he has good instincts there. the appointment of nomination of neil gorsuch was great, another federal judges wim have been nominated, there are some goodñi things. but then these attacks on trade and i think that we've got toñr realize that we are in a global society, only 5% of the world's population, only 20% of the world's check out put,çwe've got to trade to grow.ñi and i think that we've got to recognize as elected officials, we've got to stand up for what we know is right. >> dickerson: what then, how does party change itself, if i'm republican what do i do, how do you go forward? >> i think it has to start withi demeanor. we have to moderate behavior that our kid are watching, because like i said, we're not going to tackleçó the big issues in the book i talk about howçóñr when our chief military officials, general mattis also
position were asked what the biggest problems were, they didn't talk about north korea or iran or the middle east. they said, the lack of civility and the lack of people getting along here in congress. that turning inward. we are the biggest problem here. and unphysical we fix that, until we recognizeñi that we've got to get together whetherç4@6& it's on healthcare or taxesf we want to move ahead on those issues and have something that the president can sign, i would submit we better startçó looking across the aisle saying, how can we do this together. >> dickerson: in the current health care debate why not have done thatñi in this debate? >> i think we al there eventually. only so many things you can do just as o party. we're arriving there a little quicker than we thought. i had hoped that we could keepñr vehicle ready that we could use to moveñi along mr. quickly. i was dipp
last week. having said that, i'm glad to see that now we're talking about sitting down with our colleagues, going back to committee, going back to what we call regular order and letting the committees and experts deal with it and bringing the public in more than we have before. so, i hopeñvq!at that's the case and that will be certainly good for us and good for the country. >> dickerson: all right, senator flake, thank you so much. >> thank you. dickerson: we'll be looking for you tomorrow on cbs this morning where we'll be table hear more about the book and alr of you we'll be back in one moment. ...it starts a chain reaction... ...that's heard throughout the connected business world. at&t network security helps protect business, from the largest financial markets to the smallest transactions, by sensing cyber-attacks in near real time and automatically deploying countermeasures. keeping the world of business connected and protected. that's the power of and.
by the top democrat on the senate judiciary committee, california senator dianne feinstein. welcome, senator. i want to start with the other committee you're on the senateçó intelligence committee. on this question of north korea. what do you make of the latest moves by north korea? >> i make it as a clear and present danger to the united states. i've spent time on theñi intelligence and at the
briefings and done as much reading as i possibly could. i'm convinced that north korea has never moved at the speed that rsçó leader has to develop an icbm to put solid fuel, to have an interesting launch device and to have a trajectory which, as of the latest analysis, would enable it to go aboutñi 6,000 miles and maybe en hit as farñr, we can't have that. to me, it points out the dangeri in isolating a country that the1 go to the science andñi technicl knowñi how to show their brute force, not to handle the isolation. i think the only solution is a diplomatic one. i'm very disappointed in china's response that it has not been firmer or more helpful and i
this is one of the reasons that i hope general kelly will be able toñr beñr effective, even beyond the chief of staff, isñio v negotiation wr stop t >> dickerson: let me move on to health care, which fell apar4 this week in the senate. often in these instants a group of bipartisan senators goes somewhere, maybe in quiet room and try to work is that happening at all, any chance that that could emerge out of thisñi failure thisñr week? >> the vote just happened. so we don't know that right now. but i thinkxd there's a big lesr learned in this, john. you can't take a bill as big as this one, write it wi a select group of people in a back room,i not let one of theñi political parties even see it until the friday beforeçóçó a voteñr comep and think that this bill is going to pass.ñi
and you can't take 16 million people, 15ñr million people, 20 million people, those were the three bills and removeçó themñim health care. this skinny bill, you know, would see premiumsñi begin to go up 20% next year. so, my view is, that weñr have o go regular order. have the hearings, enable -- begin with some of the specifics where we know we needñi to chan. >> dickerson: let me ask you though, republicans say, the reason you can't work with democrats is that the minute we start to talk democrats say you must include the individual mandate for republicans that's a deal breaker. so they say basically, there's no reason to talk because of this big obstacle of the individual. >> i'll give you a reason to talk. t reason to talk is the insurance industry. and what's happening across the united states and it's a very serious thing. because you got more than;or a million people who want to participate in the exchangess
you got several million who only have --çó don'tñr have a choicef insurance carriers. now i think we need to take a look at thisçó. what is wrong, is it the fact that insurance is levied on individual state mandates, so you have all 50 states to deal with. should there be regional marketplace or one marketplace with specific federal guidance rules for this. we need to look at that and you have real problems with the subsidies for people under $47,000. you earn $48,000 and you get nothing and your insurance can cost you $800 to a thousand dollars a month. over 20%ñr of the income at 50,0 a year. >> dickerson: let me ask you no÷ quickly before we go on -- jeff sessions your former colleague, what do you make of the president's conversations with him, chuck grassley, your
colleague on the republican ranking on the senate said no attorney general confirmation hearings. >> well,çó chairman grassleyçó s put the bit between his teeth and said that there will be no hearings, mr. president, if you go ahead and fire jeff sessionsi i thinkçó there has been sufficient opposition for the president not to do so, unless of course what he reallyçó intes is to end up firing mueller, which could well be the beginning of the end of his presidency. >> dickerson: all right, senator, thank you so mucmñ0@6c& >> thank you. ] dickerson: we'll be back in a moment. [ intense music playing ] it's here, but it's going by fast. the opportunity of the year is back: the mercedes-benz summer event. get to your dealer today for incredible once-a-season offers, and start firing up those grilles.
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>> dickerson: over the last six months we've monitored groups of americans and their thoughts about the trump administration, congress and our country. in ourçó cbs news nation tracke, a joint survey project with ugov, director anthony salvanto joins us to discuss some of these findings, it's a delight to have you back. six months ago you started a project and identified four groups. but -- we'll get to those in a moment. one of the things that strikes me about these new findings that you found one item that splits the group in two. what is that? >> it's really the personal evaluation of the president. what we've seen over time is that the president started off with very wide range of potential support but it's beeni moving slowly but steadily towards more opposition and it's really about whether or not they like seeing whatñhey see as combativeness and theñi
he's got this core group of loyal supporters that like him taking on people that they think deserveñr it.ñr that like him taking on the media.ñr4/but everybody else isy what they don't like. they perceive him as creating unnecessary drama. theyñi describe him more asñr temperamental than presidential andñi most people describe what they see fromçó the administratn as chaos. what happens is, that's what's really driving things more away from.çó >> dickerson: we'll describe the different ways which that getsd in the way in a moment. built another big finding before we get into those four groups i was struck about people's feelings about the economy. the president argued if everybody would just look at the economy and the market and the jobs and how well thing are going, that he would moreñr broadly be -- people would haver añi better view of him but that doesn't seem to be what you found in your numbers. >> they do give him credit for the economy. most people give him some credit for the economy. they do think manufacturing jobs are coming back for aot
and thoseñi personal evaluation are kind of outweighing what they do seeñi is economic progress. >> dickerson: it's not that they don'tñi know they know and theye weighing something else more strongly. all right, now, the four groups, we'll start with the core supporters, these are the one that prosnt said he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue theirñ)h:uhport. what is their temperature. >> they're the only group that actually likes and wants him to do more tweeting. these folks see the world in terms of them and their way of life being a threat, see the president as a defender of it. so, they say that they are loyal to him. above other party labels, above other political labels. and when they see that, they see this thing in cultural terms as well, it ingendersñi this steadfast loyalty to the presidentçóçó and then everythig else is just kind of tactics for them. so they not only like the tweeting but they like himñr making democrats mad. and they don't want him negotiatinth
so, what they're seeing is that fight, also getting smaller as it intensifies as it hangs on. they are under a fifth of the country now. they were just over a fifth when this started now it'sñi gone don to 18%. >> dickerson: 18%. let's move on then to the second group. these are the ones that were conditional. they really liked the policiesçó that the president supported and where are they now in their feeling? >> when these folks unpacked their adjectives talk about that they'reñi seeing they use word like distracted. that word distracted is important because they want policy outcomes fr administration. they are not as keen on this sort of cultural divide. so they don't see the president as working on those problems day and night. and so, what they're seeing they were still with the president, they are still supportive but it's more about them rooting for him than liking what they're seeing, much less likely than
like his personal behavior. >> dickerson:!vhis group, second group the conditional group they like lower tax, lower regulation, all of the standard greatest hits but they think the president is getting in his own way. >> exactly. much more traditional conservative in that respect. a little worried about the u.s. role in the world where he's placing it but still saying they're going to be patient with theñi administration. it's like being a sports fan and you are saying your team isn't playing well but it's still your team. that's where these folks are. >> dickerson: they haven't yet left theçó stadium. still early. all right, now the third group, these are the kind of áq curious they were flirting with perhaps supporting the president, where are they? >> they have been steady moving towards more opposition. these are the folks whoñi still and started out saying that they wanted to find añiñi reason to support the president. but unlike washington terms where we mighty value wait things and how much legislation is passed or who fills what job these foar
see what changes in my life. and they haven't seen anything change in their life. health care seemed to have an impact here when people feltñr like they didn't understandñr wt the president wanted or didn't understand what was in the said, well, he's not fighting for people like me. and so what'sñi happened is they have moved away more towards opposition bus they don't see]ú& those results even though they want to find a reason, they want to find a reason to support him. >> dickerson: when the president talks about how productive he's been, but not for me. >> not for me. dickerson: finally the last group, resistersñr these are on total opposite end of the true believers. what is new, if anything, about them? >> this group has been steady growing. now they're more than 40% of the country. and what you see hereçó is, fols on the fence, a little more more into this steadfast opposition group they describe what they're seeing as frightening. but what jumps out is at stake as well in thisçó way, theis
polar opposite of that loyal support group, that feeling of frightening may be exactly what e-mail trump supporters want them to feel but what they're seeing is they think the future of democracy is at stake. they are not rooting for the president to succeed. they would say would be dangerous. that group is fairly hard in their opposition also sort of tells you aboutçó how things mit be increasingly entractable going forward. >> dickerson: thank you, as always. we'll be right back withñr our political panel.
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>> dickerson: we're back with our political panel. ruth marcus is "washington post" columnist and the deputy editorial page editor. ben domenech is founder and publisher of the federalist. also joined by our chief congressional correspondent nancy cordes and davidñi nakamua who covers the white houseymfor the "washingtonñi post." last sunday we much here talking about auto new communications director at the white house now a new chiefçó of staff. the organizational chart is rumbling, where are things in the white house? >> you talked about this. the biggest thing for the incoming chief of staff kelly is ofçó communication and a little bit -ess chaos in the west wing and oval office itself. this is a president who thinks major garrett touched on it earlier that peopleñr can walk , carte blanche intoñr the oval office and president u president trump likes that. but i think most chiefs of staff one of their biggest things to control access toñi the presidet so that he has a little
clearer channels, i think the idea that a general a four-star general would instill that discipline is what we're looking at. as you said before the biggest challenge is trump himself because he does like that, obviously trump's own, been calling around at off hours to friend outside the white house and new york and other place to get input. >> dickerson: ruth, this is not the first. we had this also deputy chief of staff has gone from the white house, communication director,ñi press secretary, national security advisor and fbi director from this administration. this is a pattern. >> and counting. in oneñr sense that actually mit strengthen general kelly's hand becauseñi how many more can you afford to lose. maybe inçóçó trump world you can just keep on runningñr through them. but clearly,ñr ally of the white house said yeste%! less denial. he's not in the denial phase i'i told any moreñr where he thinks this is all going great and he's
everything is just hunkyñi dory but there are stages as we know. as he gotten toñi acceptance? i thinriñi david puts his fingen the rep which is, generalñi kelly could impose some order and discipline, can't get any worse as we saw this week. on this crazy chaotic white houseçóñiñr but can he get prest trump to change, does president trump want to change is he capable of changing talk to lot of former white house chiefs of& staff yesterday, heard the word "patch" a lot. you can patchñi this but you cat necessarily fix it.ñi >> dickerson: ben, moving to the acceptance stages is important, we also heard say let trump be trump what they used to say about ronald reagan is that what you say publicly then fix things underneathç!jeu what is theñi remedy here, white houses are allowed to stumble what do you do to fix it? >> i think this is a significant step.ñi it's potentially a turning point in the early stagesñi of this administration. a pivotal way from perhaps loyalty to g.o.p.ñr
which had been injected into this white house after a campaign in whichñi they were vy oftenñr at odds. reince priebus was very effective rnc leadñr are, he rebuilt the party after financial trouble and contributed certainly to donald trump's win. but as the chief of staff, he really had noçó legislative or executive experience beforehand and it showed. they wereñr planning to have him early on play as more significant role because of his close relationship witxrçó paul ryan. but after legislativeçóñi failus that you've seen come out of the congress and early going of this administration, i think this is a potential pivot away fromñ. being asçó close to the g.o.p. establishment withñrñi leadershp within washington potentially a willingness to be kind of president that donald trump indicated before he won. going to disrupt the policyxd discussions that we have, i think general kelly is going to have a significant task before him in terms of reorganization
of co happens once he startsñr monday how firm ofñi a hand h%d holds n it comes to that organizational chart. >> dickerson: this notion of disruption moving away from the republican party that would have to give heartburn to the republican leaders in congress because they would be the principle par get, we see the presidentñiçó targeting @ republicans saying two different things. one, reminding everyone of their failure on health care, saying you have to move to 51 votes get rid of the 60çó vote threshold, how do you see it? >> they haveçó lot of respect fr general kelly, if anyone could impose order it would be him. on theñi other hand, not incredibly optimistic this is president who hiredñiñi general and anthony s one incrediblyñiñiñi destabiliz, while they have= in kelly they believeñr that ths is a president who isn't interested in any one telling him what to do, in fact we know in the past avoid telling him
will often do the opposite. so, they liked reince priebus, they were very vocalñr about tht theyñi didn't think he did anything wrong, probably a reason why kelly reportedly turned down the president's offer to be chief of staff a number of times before he finally said yes.ñi >> dickerson: we know about that piece of information becauseñi someone leaked it, david, which takes me to my next question and appreciate the transition,ñr nancy. the question of leaks. anthony scaramucci was in an interview in the new yorker infuriated about the leak question. so is that going to get fixed? >> this was -- came after this private dinner at the white house with foxñi news executives and scaramucci left the meeting learned it had been reported by the repof new yorker" sort of flipped out, called him and thought maybe he was off the record but there had been nothing said. all this became public. what is interesting i think scaramucci was takenñr that line because he recognized
donald trump is upset about what he says as unfair leaks on the russian investigation,ño' on otr scandals around the presidency. so this thing did not seem to be that big a deal but you saw scaramucci trying to ingratiate himself with the boss. all this goes back to a little bit what you said in the previous segment as the president's approval ratings continue to crater, the white house seems to be coalescing, certain the president around appeal directly to the base. the president is going to continue tweeting, continue to get this kind of message out that he's underñi attack, under avpu&t which plays well with the small segment. >> dickerson: getting rid of leaks in the white house.ñi cannot be done. >> certainlyçó can't be done bui don'tñr think it was -- lot of people in this white house who really were not in part of trump'sñi sort of corner during the primary and during the general process, there were a lot ofñi people who were there i frankly reince priebus and others brought over. who i think dili not feelçó at e within this white house, objected
i think that general kelly's task is actually going to not so much focus on the lacking part of it but on the oregon any sackal part in determining who is getting information that shouldn't be getting that information. why do we have kind of this affect of people fighting all the time in proxy wars within the press, that's not something that can be solved overnight. >> dickerson: i was struck, scaramucci said this week that people in the white house thought they had to protect the president from the country. that the a grim view of people in the white house. >> and kind ofñrñi illustrativef where we are. i thought that was one of the most interesting things that war said this week. i want people to to protect the country from the president, because theñi preside things that areñi going to be te hardest f general kelly to fix. the president sim pull sieve. the president has very litw÷ the way of attention span. the president isñr undiscipline. the president not only does not
want to beñiçó controlled, he ce and reacts to controlçó by showing people that they can't control him. this focus on leaks, every white house hasçó leaks, no white houe likes leaks, no white house can end leaks the reason there are leaks in this white house is that the president has deliberately set up a white house with factions, with division, he not only tolerates that but to soeez extent he encourages that. to the extent that 'maying tirade by anthony scaramucciçó d into and reflected things that the president likes. this sort of toughness. that illustrates continuing problem thatçóñi general kelly d that president trump are going to face. >> dickerson: people are still fighting that wari and they take it into the pages of the newspaper so that they can win in thatñi sectional fight. nancy, let me ask you get your thoughts onújíff sessi former senator who you covered, i was struck that chairma
committee said, no, push back from republicans was quite amazing. >> senator flake said to you earlier on this broadcast that we have to pick our battles, we can't fight against the president on everything but this republicu thought, a, this was incredibly unfair what the president was doing to jeff sessions. b, politically very risky so they wanted to send him a message, don't do this, you are getting yourself into a lot of trouble. but at the same time theyñr doñr still have that core of supporters that anthonyñi salvao just talked about they don't want to speakçó out directly against the president on every issue. yes, you had your lindsey graham saying this could be the end of the trump presidency if he does this, but most of them spoke out in favor of jeffçó sessions, saying we think he's done a great job. they didn't say the president ir being incredibly (zfair to sessions, for potentially very personal reasons. >> what's int
appeals to that same bay, lot of trumpñi supporter, you saw breitbart go after the president on this sort of attacking sessions goes base on the idea that he's doing lot for that agenda which is getting tough o# crime. and so you see the same appeal being made to the same base of trumpñr supporters that also largely support a lot of that agenda, lot of what sessions was trying to do. >> i think this isñi going to be interesting to see what comes out of this.ñr the pres messages via the press toward people butñr i'm notçó sure in s case it's indicative of interest inñ from his position, seems to be the gripe that he has is frankly that he doesn't believe that3 sessions should have recused himself he believes if he was going to recuse himself that he should have told the president at the time that he was picking him. that's a gripe that he's repeatedly said. i don't think, though, in this case you're going to see himk actually take the step ofñr pushing him out because in part republicans responded so quickly. >> dickerson: what do you think that message is if he's sending it to his
this isn't -- what is he uxi for fromñr sendl think? >> i think he had hopedñi at the start of the week that the attorney general / message and leave gently. but -- who would have bet against that? it seemed obvious that this this situation couldn't continue.ñr but then we saw, this was a number -- one of number of rebuke, is that the president suffered this week. he was rebukedñr by the boy scos for his speech.# and police officers for encouragingñi violence. mioy( tweeting about transgender without working it through the process. he was rebuked by theñi senate n health care and also very sharply rebuked by the senate on his attorney general. maybe he'll hear some of this. maybe general kelly will help him hear some of this. tbd.
>> dickerson: switch to healthñr care. what happens now, died in the senate on this round isñi therea new round? >> it's never completely dead. it's always there sort of in a coma and potentially couldçó be resuscitated. the senate majority leader made it very clear he's moving on to other issues, there's añi lot on the senate's plate that they need to get done. butñr certainly going forwardñi& republicans somehow could fi out some plan that could bring together 51çó republicans, they senate floor. however, they made several tries this week, they set their sights lower and mother and theyñi stil never got there. so there are a number of republicans, including senator flick and others who have said, okay, we've tried that let's try working with democrats now.ñi on a package of fixes for obamacare but there are lot of republicans, especially those in the house. >> let's notx
obamacare, there are two falsehoods that we need to understand. first from the president who promised able to keep your doctor, your plan,ñi premiums wouldñr go down f. those things had happenedçó obamacare today would be completely extremely popular. the next was theñi republican promise inñr 2010 when theyc startedñi campaigning on repealg and replacing obamacare. at the same time the current commander in chief was firing sinbad on "celebrity apprentice" they chose the campaign on repeal for replace forñi the following seven years they did to to great electoralñi affect. half of the caucus in the senate and perhaps even more was boltslyñi unwilling to ever geto full repeal and replace. ifñr you want an example just lk this week at the behavior of someone like rob portman, seven out of the ten top employers are insurers or hospital systemsñi they depend on tax exemptions neg to them. he was never going to get to yes on a repeal that includ
or restriction of any ofñr the medicaid expansion that wash.j-d skinny repeal, hadñi it passed would have been a failure. an expression of rolling back just eight of the 419 provisions of obamacare. that is not repeal. it's certainlyñi not replace. this is the failure that is at the core of the republican experience and last several years and it depends on the fact that they chose to lie. p>> dickerson: we hjust ten second left you were just with senator mccain can you give us -- >> i ca sedona with his family. he is courageous and stubborn and ready to fight this with every fiber of his being. >> dickerson: we'll be right back. a look at russian detachment.
>> dickerson: friday night a video rocketed through social media. it was of the president shaking hands with people invited to attend a health care speech at the white house monday. a little boy was there in a wheelchair and the president passed him by. people sent around the video as proof of president trump's shriveled spirit, he would not even stoop and notice a child in a wheelcha] that was unfair to the
president had done upon entering the room was stop, bend over and talk to the child. this isn't about this one incident it's about instinct stink, snap judgments are corroding our culture. we're so ready for evidence to confirm the absolute worst about an opponent it snuffs out our charity. to show that the president lackedçó generosity thoseñr who passed aroundñi the clip were themselves being ungenerous. a moment of reflection might have caused people to wonder whether, as is so often the case, the picture or the sound byte was incomplete or misleading. white house communication director anthony scaramucciçóñi weaponized this last week when he accused reince priebus of leaking his financial disclosure form. it wasn't a leak, the information was publicly available. but who paused to learn that when it was more fun to just believe it was a sinister leak. some might point out the president has often shown a lack of generosityñr himself, he has. even this week to his own attorney generaiñ butñi this is n
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