>> you know, holding her handbag, you know, i mean it's good for me. >> jimmy: do you feel like people are scared of you in the movie business? >> i don't think so, no. i think it's the image more than -- you know, we've been successful. we've had ups and downs. we've been successful. but we fight for what we believe in. and today when you fight for what you believe in, you get like the critics are so, you know, whiny and whatever that anybody who stands up for what they believe, you know, whatever they criticize you and that's where the reputation comes, not from your peers. >> jimmy: you don't mean the movie critic because by and large the film critics -- well, you won the oscar. >> the film critics like the movie but sometimes, you know, they talk about the company, you know, i mean, you know, listen i grew up as a new york knick fan. sitting and watching michael jordan and the chicago bulls beat us every year, i mean, whenever you get tired of it after a while so i understand that kind of fatigue. >> jimmy: i got you. now -- >> not that i'm michael jordan. >> jimmy: last night you had meryl streep and michelle williams both nominated. both were in your films for best actress. how do you handle that? >> i was hoping for a tie. that would have been nice. had been ties. barbra streisand and katharine hepburn actually tied. barbra streisand for "funny girl" and lion in winter." >> jimmy: who did you vote for in that category? >> both. >> jimmy: you eliminated your own vote -- >> i get two ballots. >> jimmy: how many tickets do you get to the oscar show? >> the oscar show's like the super bowl. it's really hard to get tickets. it's all on a lottery system. yesterday, the academy did something really sweet. as a father of four daughters, there's a policeman in new york, his name is pete, he was the most decorated policeman in new york city. on his off day, on a day that he was off, there was a robbery that broke out in brooklyn, and he avoided the robbery, saved all these people, but he was shot and killed by one of the assailants. and he had four daughters. i just said to steve, let's take these girls to the super bowl. i mean, and they'd never been on an airplane before. i took them with my daughters. i said, let's take them to the oscars too. and madonna took a picture with them at halftime at the super bowl. she kept calling me, you're about to go in front of 410 million people.