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Nov 22, 2009 11:00am EST
different dances? losing face, bowing to the emperor, getting his speech jammed in china, trying terrorists in new york. is barack obama showing the kind of weakness that gets dreams? trouble? i'm chris matthews. welcome to the show. norah o'donnell is the chief correspondent for msnbc. anne kornblut, joe klein and david ignatius. first up president obama is facing three crushing difficulties, health care, the economy, and afghanistan. he is down to about 50% approval in the polls. that's completely due to his loss of independent voters. they have left him in droves. so for a president in need of support, what is the smart political move with independents on those three biggest issues? first let's take health care. since april, the president has lost independent voters on the key part of his agenda in big numbers. in april, just 25% of independent voters said they opposed the president on health care. now a huge jump, 45% of independents are against obama's plans for reform. 52% of independent voters opposed that public option. by comparison, just 22% of democrats oppose it. joe,
May 6, 2012 4:30pm PDT
important because it's and economic issue and that is china. romney has been hitting china hard since the beginning of the campaign. the president hasn't said anything. and when i travel through battleground states, you hear people talking about china more than you hear them talking about afghanistan. chris: what's the cutting edge of china to the average person? >> they're eating our lunch is what -- that may or may not be true. and manufacturing jobs are coming back but people think we're falling behind china. they want to hear what the president has to say about this economic situation. and he hasn't talked about it. >> the other area i think foreign policy does count is how it reflects on the president's character. you inoculated the president against the charge that he might be weak or a bit of a wimp in some way. i think the actions he took against bin laden and the reminder of his actions this week would have given him the character of advantage on that particular subject. chris: let me go back to how i think romney's going to do it. the romney camp revere ronald reagan especially
Apr 16, 2012 12:00am PDT
then went on an upstaging trip to china right during the new hampshire primary of 1976. forward was then put in a position of having to defend the guy who had once again embarrassed him. >> he is going under the guidelines that i suggested. >> you see no complications to foreign policy with his trip? >> none whatever. chris: he went over to china, showing off and getting the press attention and ford who got him off the hook was trying to run for president. >> at the same time, jerry ford never apologized for the pardon. he knew exactly how damaging it was to him politically and the thing he was proudest was caroline and ted kennedy gave him the profile in courage reward. chris: apparently general eisenhower, nixon thought he was helping him but giving advice secretly to ronald reagan. >> one of the things that impresses me about mike's book is what you see about ike. ike, who is a master behind the scenes playing the role of the former president with these other political figures. we all know that ike didn't like richard nixon, famously, but we didn't know the extent to which he lik
Nov 7, 2011 12:00am PST
. is that passimism or realism? >> china has money. that's what people think is a great country because they're not bankrupt. >> i think it's both pessimism and realism because these kids can't find jobs. i conducted a quick survey and asked my son who falls within this demographic and he said it's cable tv's fault. my generation has never turned on the tv and not heard that everything is gloom and doom and going to hell in a hand basket. chris: will it him to watch "hardball." >> i think it's pessimism. and i think it's because of china. the polls i look at show who's going to be economically dominant in the next decade, everybody says china. >> it's always because kids are better educated and they travel more, they all study abroad. number two, the internet is global. they see the reality elsewhere around the world for better or worse and it's the economics as jim says. they're being realistic. disturb anybody. thanks to you all, jim cramer, cnbc debate wednesday night. kathleen parker, gloria borger and howard fineman. thank you, as usual. before we go, a personal note about my new b
Jul 22, 2012 10:00am EDT
that president obama is soft on russia, soft on china. >> dan, very quickly, how much should syria be in the campaign and how much should it be? >> it should be in the campaign quite a lot. in the end, not that much. i do think there will be a division. whatever is decided, whatever happens there, they're going to go at one another, romney and obama about it. >> kathleen, what are we learning from mitt romney? what is his foreign policy? >> i don't think we know. that is a weak spot for him and obama certainly has established that he has some successes on his side of the roster. >> we may hear from mitt romney this week on syria, given a big speech. both will go out to the v.f.w. great roundtable. dan rather, kathleen parker, david ignatius, gloria borger. that's the show. [ male announcer ] where did all the obama stimulus money go? friends, donors, campaign supporters, special interest groups where did the obama stimulus money go? solyndra: 500 million taxpayer dollars. bankrupt. so where did the obama stimulus money go? windmills from china. electric cars from finland 79% of the 2.
Aug 8, 2010 11:00am EDT
to china. but you are seeing it in even -- chris: well, he's a little different cut! >> i'm not saying he represents all of them but you are seeing people like that. >> what makes it hard is republicans have been saying and they're right, that they're trying to nationalize the elections. once it goat viral it's very hard to keep it out. the republicans started talking about repealing the 14th amdment or tinkering with it on citizenship. chris: you keep reminding me we're in the 21st strrment if sarah palin or rush limbaugh says something all of a sudden they're steak -- speaking to everyone whether they like it or not. before we break, a little romance the major -- for more than 30 years this man salt down to ploo the piano for presidents. nixon's idea of hospitality was according to sergeant smith what tricky. >> he would come on board with these empty bottles of whine -- wine that when you looked at them you thought you were getting a $300 bottle of wine. he would take them to the ga ley and set up to fill them with the cheapest wine he could fine. carlo rossi or something lik
Sep 26, 2011 12:00am PDT
the new normal. what if these jobs are never coming back from india and china? what if the globalized economy -- what if the advantages the u.s. historically had has disappeared? what if this is really grim? chris: on that note, before we go to break, let me recall a time when politics was fun. back in 1982 on the first day ronald reagan's tax cuts took effect republicans faced a good photo-op on the washington mall. they went out and had someone bake gigantic apple pie 17 feet in diameter. the idea was to have someone go out there and slice up that pie to a long line of young republican activists. well, at the time i was working for democratic house speaker tip o'neill. when i heard about that pie stunt coming, i put a call out to my friend mitch snyder, very aggressive activist for the homeless. i just gave him a heads up on what the reagan people had planned. take a look at how it all played out on the evening news that night. >> the washington monument grounds today, the american conservative union and senate republicans staged a media event to celebrate the first day o
Jan 29, 2012 11:00am EST
, obviously, china, india, they seem to be catching up to us? is it about the shrinking pie of opportunity in this country or how the pie is sliced up? >> i think it's two change. one is the structural change. you read how an ipad is made and you see that it's made in asia with like a labor force that you can never assemble in a free country at wages you can't possibly compete with. the trouble is that obama thinks that seems to be changed. unfortunately it means that short-term americans are going get relatively poor. chris: what do we fight about? >> i think whether if he's the right centurist to take us forward. on the wealth stuff, i don't think it's about wealth. i think it's about how you earn the money. and i think no one begrudges steve jobs for becoming that rich. but what has mitt romney done by the last six years. business bi-his own admission he was unemployed. he was earning $20 million for doing nothing. he's not doing anything. >> isn't it also not just how he's earned it but how he expresses his wealth. he sometimes seems unable to be anything other than the sup
Jan 2, 2012 12:00am PST
against. i think what he means is are we going to look to china as a threat? are we going to say we can't afford to deal with it? >> do we have that 2 1/2 war scenario thing? >> that is precisely what he thinks he can put on the shelf. chris: how many wars right now? >> 1 1/2. he is making the strategic choices that i was talking about in that prediction, but the bigger harder choices await the sequestration, the amount of cuts could double and panetta hasn't begun to answer those questions and he really doesn't know. those are the cuts that scare people. chris: troubling. people. chris: troubling. anyway, we'll be right back. chris: welcome back and happy new year. and happy election year, i guess. thanks to today's great roundtable. major garret, gloria borger, kelly o'donnell and david ignatius. that's the show. we'll see you next week from new hampshire. [captioning made possible by new hampshire. [captioning made possible by nbc universal] it's all about jobs. it's all about respect. security. the american dream. [ jamaul ] good jobs in tough times. a chance to move up and do better.
Sep 27, 2010 12:00am PDT
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Jul 15, 2012 4:30pm PDT
nixon. after nixon was pardoned, nixon went on an upstaging trip to china right near the new hampshire primary. ford was put in a position to having to defend the guy who had once again embarrassed him. >> he's going under the guidelines. >> you see no complications to foreign policy in his trip? >> none, whatsoever. chris: i remember reading that. he showed off, getting all the press attention, national news. at the very moment jerry ford was trying to run for president. >> at the same time jerry ford never apologized for the pardon. he knew exactly, you know, how damaging it was to him politically and the thing he was proudest of that caroline and ted kennedy gave him the profile and courage award for having pardoned richard nixon. you know there was a lot of deep resentment over that trip. chris: he was out secretly giving advice to ronald reagan in began's first race for the presidency. >> one of the thing that impresses me in mike's book in addition to the general brillian is what you see about ike. ike who's a master behind the scenes playing the role of the former pres
Jan 23, 2011 4:30pm PST
economic war with china because we coddle our kids here at home. well, here's the author reading from her book, "battle hymn of the tiger mother." >> there are some things my daughter sophia louisa were never allowed to do, teapedslipeover, have a school date, be in a school play, complain about not being in a school play, watch tv or play computer games, choose their own extracurricular activities, get any grade less than an "a," not be the number one student in every subject except gym and drama, play any instrument other than the piano or violin or not play the piano or violin. chris: wow. here's what she says it's all about. >> i'm the type of mother, what the chinese parent is saying to their child is i believe in you so much that i know you can be excellent and i'm going to be in the trenches with you for however long it takes. chris: well, katty kay, mother of four, she seems to be saying don't coddle your kids, arm them against great economic strife out there. >> it's a very different argument from the argument that goes i believe in you so much. well, here you are as you are,
Nov 15, 2009 10:00am EST
china compared to last year. american companies that aren't taking notice of this big consumer market in asia are going to lose out. >> the next big fight over gay marriage is right here in the district of columbia. the city council is going to pass a bill. the catholic church is in opposition and conservative preachers and eventually congress could get involved. >> i think that's going to be a big story in washington. a prediction i think sarah palin's memoir will sell better than tim polenty's auto biography. it has a tick talk on the last gubernatorial run. >> the white house officials are worried about not how many troops are going to afghastan or how many people will be insured about what the unemployment number is going to be. it's over 10% now. they do not think it will budge very much for months and might not come down into single digits or middle single digits for several years. that's a real game changing fact. chris: when we come back, the big question, will the new york trial of muhammad prove an explosive issue for the obama administration. be right back. chris: we
May 29, 2011 11:00am EDT
republican with some foreign policy experience, ambassador to china. he speaks mandarin. he knows something of the world. chris: he is also a guy that wants to get along with democrats and deal make with them which seems to run against the idea -- >> he is the man who introduced sarah palin at the last convention. he has said even though he that qualms about ryan's plan that he will back it. chris: getting rid of medicare as we know it. >> if you have a reasonable republican explain we have to do something about the debt and democrats are in denial about it and he doesn't seem like he is going to end every entitlement. >> but in is a generation gap in the republican party. what you are seeing with these folks who believe that it is their turn to be president, they have been -- this is the regular way of the republican party. then you have the up and coming group, paul ryan, marco rubio, younger folks. they don't believe that -- they are not running. i said to a republican why don't some of the young guys run on the barack obama model and the answer was because we believe that bara
Oct 28, 2012 10:00am EDT
important political transition in the world is taking place in china. in november. and analysts tell me that it is unexpectedly rocky. that the transition to a new leadership group that was supposed to be settled isn't. and that their key leadership positions that are-so-still being fought over -- that are still being fought over. chris: the big question, no matter what he promises, could a president mitt romney agree to raise taxes to get a big a president mitt romney agree to raise taxes to get a big deficit but if you really want to make an impact, vote. then, what matters to you and the people you care about will really count. you'll want to vote the more you know. chris: welcome back. this week, big business got behind the simpson bowles deficit proposal. that includes some tax increases. mitt romney then said forget about it. forget about any tax increases. which brings us to this week's big question. if he actually won the election, would romney agree to a tax increase as part of a big deficit solution? joe. >> he hasn't said read my lips. and i think that's the only way he's going to
Jul 22, 2012 4:30pm PDT
russia, soft on china. >> dan, very quickly, how much should syria be in the campaign and how much should it be? >> it should be in the campaign quite a lot. in the end, not that much. i do think there will be a division. whatever is decided, whatever happens there, they're going to go at one another, romney and obama about it. >> kathleen, what are we learning from mitt romney? what is his foreign policy? >> i don't think we know. that is a weak spot for him and obama certainly has established that he has some successes on his side of the roster. >> we may hear from mitt romney this week on syria, given a big speech. both will go out to the v.f.w. great roundtable. dan rather, kathleen parker, david ignatius, gloria borger. dan rather, kathleen parker, david ignatius, gloria borger. that's the [ male announcer ] for our families... our neighbors... and our communities... america's beverage companies have created a wide range of new choices. developing smaller portion sizes and more low- & no-calorie beverages... adding clear calorie labels so you know exactly what you're choosing.
Oct 23, 2011 11:00am EDT
china and they're reading the translation of this and they're arguing about who cut my lawn? >> when you travel overseas and try to explain american politics to people, it's just a sort of what's going to. i did think that we saw in this week's debate the tough texan who can take it to you. man, he looked mean. chris: he looked menacing. >> if he can shake up and people can look at the negatives of that but if he can shake up mitt romney, he can shake up barack obama and republicans will look at that and may say we need the street fighter this time. chris: a guy that goes for the ankle. we asked our matthews meter this week, 12 of our regular, including gloria and kelly, will perry's attacks damage romney enough to help the obama campaign next year? it's close. these things think like going after romney on having a guy mow his lawn without proper papers. >> he needs condo fees and not worry about mowing his lawn. these things actually go to the heart -- chris: what do you mean condo fees? >> then you're not hiring your own lawn care. i think the undercurrent is that these are the things
May 22, 2011 10:00am EDT
new hampshire and came back from china and his aides are saying that he's going to try to take the handshake approach of meeting as many new hampshire residents in the most traditional places as possible to show that even though he is an obama appointee back on the homeland, that he has a common man's touch. that's an approach they're going to at least try. chris: i'm not sure. >> speaking of iowa, they are one election away of losing their first in the nation status. in the last 30 years in contested primaries they've picked one candidate who eventually wins the nomination. republican leaders there understand that if they're not going to pick a serious candidate, they're not going to be -- chris: if you win in iowa, you can't win in the country? >> that's part of their thing. chris: why make that the litmus test if it proves you can't win? it's inversely evil. when we come back, the big question of the week -- what do the schwarzenegger and dominique kahn tell us about powerful men, women and class? chris: welcome back. this week's big question -- what do the schwarzenegger and ka
Sep 16, 2012 10:00am EDT
promising a trade war with china, taking on russia as america's most dangerous foe? it has the tone being to try to put daylight between himself and a president who is strong on national security issues because he doesn't have a strong position on foreign policy. chris: so who is he listening to? is it ideologues of press attack types or who is it? >> the folks at the highest level of the romney campaign said the governor drove a lot of this. with consultations with john bolton and richard williamson and former state department officials. chris: which comes out of his book. >> the governor saw this as an opening for himself. and in part drove this message and collaborated then with his staff. it wasn't something brought to him and hey, governor, here's an idea. why don't you jump into this? he initiated it within the campaign i'm told. the obama campaign and the president remember not only romney's very different positions on libya as that was developing. you about also when they were negotiating for the release of the chinese dissident gen wajiang. while negotiations were going on
Sep 9, 2012 10:00am EDT
will matter for us, china, it's a worldwide economic problem. there's no way this is going to turn the corner overnight. chris: you've written "the president's club," which is still doing gang busters on the bestseller list. how do you think they're doing? >> they can see they think it's going to happen. you can see that happened this week in four or five ways. it's not just about whether obama wins or not. let's turn it around. if obama loses, the race for the democratic nomination starts on november 8, 7, whatever the day is. she has to be ready to go that day. she becomes number one. that's not in her interest. that's not ideal. it's better to have a little more time. chris: the clintons would be the last standing heroes of the democratic party if obama is beating. >> and what republican will be around to win this time. whatever democrat runs, are they running against the ryan-santorum wing of the party? or the restoration jeb bush wing of the party? it's in her interest that it be one and not the other. chris: do they see bill clinton coming in like gang busters as a brother to the
Feb 6, 2011 11:00am EST
face china ten years from now then what we were going to do in iraq. chris: try writing an american history book for high school kids explaining why we went to war with iraq and who made the decision. it's hard to get the basic facts down. >> and isn't that why we're still talking about it because we still haven't had a satisfactory answer on why america went to war and lost more than 4,000 troops there. i think -- chris: and when did they make the call? anne, you were at the white use. >> this will be dick cheney's book, which comes out in august. chris: you think that will be the trump card? >> it's the final one in all of these memoirs. chris: does it say bush was to the side or i was the number two man? or will he lay back and say i was with this from the beginning? >> he did. cheney believed in it and bush quotes cheney at his memoir at one of their lunches cheney saying are you going to take this guy out or not? which is kind of an incentive to do it? cheney was very influential. but, look, we do know and in a sense most of the history of this has been written and from what i
Oct 18, 2010 12:00am PDT
-cutting and getting rid of payroll. >> he has not been a china basher. a fascinating thing to me is he has not been the commander in chief. we're a nation at war. he is the person who sent 30,000 more troops. you don't hear him talk about it. maybe he's afraid of alienating the democratic base. if he's going to be presidential and lead his party, that surely is part of it, and we don't hear it. chris: would that help, do you think? >> i thinkould. he has to play the hand that he's actually got. he can talk about jobs, but he is the commander in chief. that's the reality. >> i think that reinforces people's frustration, that he has in fact continued a lot of the bush era policies with that. >> he reinforces the base of frustration. chris: let's see what they said about this. what's the best way to help the democrats, attack the republicans or -- can people say attack? by the way, gloria -- >> i don't think he has any -- he doesn't have any good choice this year, honestly. so if it's a choice between not going out there and -- versus going out there and trying to get your base out, just
Oct 17, 2011 12:00am PDT
, he would deny as china as a currency manipulator. mitt romney has complicated the life of speaker boehner who wants to suppress that bill. 179 members have signed a discharge. chris: a trade war? >> the big question of the week, if it's mitt romney versus barack obama next year, will romney's mormon faith significantly hurt him in november. be right back. chris: welcome back. this week's big question, if mitt romney is the republican running against barack obama next year, will his mormon religion cost him states in november? joe. >> only if there is an evangelical or libertarian third party that comes as a result of the fact that they really do believe mormonism is a cult. >> it will be a question whether enough evangelicalses or baptists stay home in some southern states or states toward the south that possibly the democrats might -- chris: name one of the states where it might change? >> florida, i don't know enough, but could it have an impact in a state like that? >> barber came out and said herman cain could sweep the south if he was the nominee which is saying that mitt rom
Nov 14, 2010 10:00am EST
british term randy no get that gavel and get that subpoena power so he can do toys? from china? >> start off with consumer issues. and you build a little, i'm not too hot tempered yet. chris: isn't he trying to get the blagojevich things stirred up and go ater the rahm emanuel deals? >> his best quotes come in response to questions. there was change when the election happened. before he was on rush limbaugh, a -- corrupt president, corrupt admistration and after the election he backpedaled and said i shouldn't have said that. i think -- darrell issa is a smart guy. he's not a zealot. chris: is this t chance to in vestigate -- >> he never saw a camera he didn't like. and another way is you do have leverage. but the tea party end or the fox news end if you will, going after the new black panther party, for example, which is a dead end, believe me, and instead of the consumer rout, something like that, the average person can relat to, he's going to do damage. >> i think john boehner is well aware ofhe overreach that occurred in the 1990's. and he's already talked about it. chris: he said th
Aug 9, 2009 11:00am EDT
he opened up china for us. so that's huge. and that will be a much more important historic landmark than anything clinton accomplished, i think. chris: john. >> kathleen is right. nixon and both on the foreign policy and domestic, creation of the e.p.a., osha. chris: school in the south -- >> affirmative action. a huge domestic legacy. chris: so ironic. the last real liberal president. when we come back, scoops and predictions from the notebooks when we come back, scoops and predictions from the notebooks of >> if your home runs out of room before you run out of family,@ you might need a sunroom. if the only place in your home you can find peace and quiet and relax is the bathroom, you might need a sunroom. and if bringing the outdoors indoors at your house means a goldfish bowl and an ant farm, you might need a sunroom. a betterliving sunroom is the simple, efficient way to add useful living space to your home. call or log on right now and learn just how easily your family could be enjoying a valuable new space that really does change the way you live. >> it's a completely differen
Feb 13, 2011 4:30pm PST
. >> the white house was -- the white house has to figure out what to do about china and some would like to see gary locke leave the commerce department and he speaks chinese. chris: so his background is chinese. >> yeah. he could do that job. not sure if he would do it. moved his name once but he's in the mix. chris: david david. -- david ignatius. >> c.i.a. officers are worried about the implications of the pack substance -- pakistanis holding someone with diplomatic credentials in jail in lahor when under every international rule they should be releasing him and they fear this makes every one of them vulnerable everywhere they travel. chris: what are they trying to get out of him? >> the problem is that that are all afraid to release him. it's a political battle in pakistan. this man was caught. he shot and killed two people who were tailing him. whether they were thieves or something else is still up for discussion. but this is really got people nervous. chris: spooks and spies and all those guys with capes. and swords. when we come back, the big question of the week, barack oba
Oct 25, 2009 11:00am EDT
by the battle between united states and china. it's the larger fight for africa that is ongoing between america and china. but there, america and china are fighting over who is going to supply the country's electricity. there is none throughout the country. things have been sort of stuck as these two superpowers battled it out. who wins will say something about where africa is going. >> there is actually an obvious solution that's looming on iran. that's something called nuclear latency. the iranian regime will prove to the world that they have the capacity to make a bomb and the ability to do so quite quickly, but will not go the next route and the question will be how tough an inspections reyeem they will agree to in order to reassure us that's the case. they will move to demand the united states, if they're not going to have a nuclear weapon, move against israel and that will be interesting. chris: this week's big question, the president is getting closer to formally announcing his afghanistan plan. the question, who will be angry as he threads the needle down the middle, the
Dec 5, 2011 12:00am PST
through russia and china so it's not as easy as president obama to hit iran. he has to hit russia and china and that's what he doesn't want to do. >> the big thing he has not done, the trigger they haven't pulled is cutting off the central bank. england has done it. others have done it. the state department said this week that they aren't doing it because of the energy situation. the senate is pressuring them with legislation to do it now. >> it's actually pretty complex because it's not just a question russia and china. if he were to cut off central bank, he could create problems with the export of oil, say, to japan, and japan needs the oil right now. you could look at quite a big disruption to global energy markets. >> and a spike in energy prices here. >> absolutely. in addition, the iranian regime is not monolithic right now at all. mahmoud ahmadinejad has many challenges inside the regime and they don't want to box people into a corner and inflame anti-american tendencies. >> how much pressure is there on president obama to do something? >> there's real fear that with american t
Sep 27, 2009 11:00am EDT
don't know. >> this recent trade spat with china over tire imports has some economic historians worried that history could be repeating itself. go back to 1930 and the smute hally tariffs. -- smoot hawley tritches. it put a tariff on goods coming into this country and why we saw the depression last longer. chris: so the trade walls are going up? >> trade walls are going up and that's a big concern. china is a biggie for us. chris: lend us all the money. rick stengel. >> by the end of the year you are going to see a plethora of e-readers, four color, that people will have in front of them and paying for great content on it. chris: kindle. kathleen. >> if health care is still twisting in the wind come november, which it seems likely, two gubernatorial races , new jersey and virginia, could go to republicans and change the -- chris: i think they're already going republican. why are those two states going republican? >> corzine, unpopular enough to be seriously challenged. and in virginia, well, they're just -- i think there's still support for somebody -- for change, a change agent
Dec 9, 2012 11:00am EST
we already know about russia out china and there which brings us to the big question this week -- will the president's second term triumphs be abroad or here at home? >> i think his second term will be defined by foreign policy and looming confrontation over iran. chris: politco has spoken. >> despite all of the domestic issues, he will have a bigger role to play on the world stage and brought into that with events whether it be syria, iran. >> leadership just changed in china for the first time in 10 years, the most important economic relationship we have in the world and he's got to make headway there to make sure they stay on their reform path so they continue to grow and the world economy will be stronger. >> i agree, it's unanimous, the big foreign policy challenges are coming at him. he can't avoid them. he's got to deal with iran, he's got to deal with syria, he's got to deal with afghanistan. chris: do we have a chance with iran? everybody worries about this -- do we have a chance to stop them from nuclear weaponnizing? >> yes, the elements of the deal, what's called th
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countries, china is one of the examples they throw out. so if it's something that people will get beyond, we seem, and to see in the public polling that people will trade some privacy for greater security, but i think there is a critical mass that's coming. at least on capitol hill. where people are saying we needed to know more. we're now learning more. and while there may be some tweaks to these programs, they think by and large -- chris: knowing what's going on. my question is the president, different from a pundit or any of us, if something goes wrong he has to bear responsibility for not having done something he could have done technologically. >> i think you're right. barack obama comes into office. he's a liberal. he's not a big -- pro-surveillance hawk. and every morning he gets a threat briefing. and he knows that his first job is to protect the american people against what are really scary attacks. for me, the clearest sign that these programs are powerful is the fact that osama bin laden, hid in plain sight for five years for one reason. he went silent. he left no digital foot
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