bush. and if she has a small majority and is speaker, next year, then she's going to have to shift the way she governs and the flagship issue is cap-and-trade, though, and wants to move the bill. but there is no way the bill can pass next year and there will be a lot more republicans and the bill is basically dead and if they do anything on energy it will have to be radically different. martha: will she be minority leader if that is the situation. >> i don't think so, if they lose the majority a lot of people think she wouldn't run as the stop democrat, steny hoyer, maybe, the majority leader from maryland, if it's a narrow majority, maybe she would, a lot of democrats will lose who will be conservative democrats and she'd have a lot of support in the liberal caucus. but a lot of people think if she loses the majority she would step aside as top democrat. martha: what a story, thank you so much, bob, great to talk to you, this morning, have a good one. bill: what is coming down. martha: i r

bush, also a fox news contributor, good morning to you back there in washington, d.c. most americans i believe last night tuned in for one thing, they wondered one thing, when will the leak stop or how do you stop the leak. why go after a major new piece of legislation in this prime time address, karl? what was the strategy here? >> the strategy is don't let a crisis go to waste but you're right what kind of sense does this make, are wind and solar going to allow us to propel other cars on the street in if we want to reduce our dependence on foreign sources of oil why put a tax on natural gas and coal? coal give us half our electricity and natural gas, we have huge found in the united states that can be used for power and transportation. so new york city it doesn't make much sense that we ought to use the immediate thing in the gulf as an excuse, an inflection point to pitch on the to cap and trade. bill: you're taking me to that direction, i want to get inside the heads of those plotting this at the white house. are you betting on the possibility, long after the gushe

loreta doan, former gsa administrator under president george w. bush. thanks for being with us. not just las vegas. we're learning hawaii, south pacific islands, nap at that valley, palm springs. my goodness. the list goes on and on. do you think these people at gsa, especially commissioner jeff neely who is immortalized now in this famous hot tub picture with a couple of glasses of wine, do you think these people are using government money as their own personal piggybank? >> it became absolutely clear that is what happened but what is really sad is the money that they're using is not just taxpayer money. it is also the stimulus money which was intended for shovel-ready infrastructure projects. which was intended to create jobs and it didn't happen. what the three hearings proved that management, the poor management started at the very top of gsa with the political leadership appointed by president obama. gregg: well this week we learned of alleged fraud, theft, misuse of federal taxpayer money. even kickbacks and bribes according to the inspector general. >> yes. gregg: neely's

so hold on to that distinction as i make my next point because george bush skipped st. paul in 2008. he appeared by video conference with john mccain. >> well, he wasn't running for anything in 2008, and that convention was run by the mccain people, and he was still president at the time which should take a little bit of your time, i would think. bill: okay. so the list, perhaps, grows between now and charlotte. we will see together. on health care, what do the spikes do in this -- supremes do in this hour tomorrow? >> i find it hard to believe that this law can be found unconstitutional. obviously, it's very hotly-debated, but when you saw the oral argument in the supreme court, you saw justices across the spectrum saying how can you force the american people to buy something they don't want? that has never happened before. i would be stunned if they don't find at least the individual mandate unconstitutional. and if it is unconstitutional, as i believe it is, then i think the whole premise for obamacare falls apart. bill: all of it? >> well, some of it may well be leg

bush and a fox news contributor. good morning, good to see you. >> good morning, martha. martha: you got a chance to look at the 21-page documented, the pledge to america, that is being made, as i said, hoping to recreate what happened in 1994, is the document up to snuff in your opinion? >> there are a couple of weak points, but, yes, impressive document and in fact the back story is even more impressive and the document itself, 21 pages in length and spells out changes the republicans would propose in jobs, spending, health care, the reform of washington, and, national defense, and, what is interesting is, all of these practical suggestions that they have -- >> karl, we have to go off of your picture, i apologize, going to the u.n., president obama stepped up to the podium. we'll listen in: >> president barack obama:... as president of the united states. we know this is no ordinary time for our people. each of us comes here with our own problems and priorities. but, there are also challenges that we share in common as leaders, and as nations. we meet within an instituti

bush, but when it comes time to allocating getting credit for iraq being right, all of it goes to george burke, which president obama opposed at the time. the political piece is still not in place in iraq and there's a danger in premature triumph. >> political peace is the key. we have to reconcile prime minister malaki and allawi to avoid a she eat skeuz ip. if we do that we can have a bipartisan victory. rich may want to parse it out. martha: we can divide it into three parts. >> that was his view when he was a senator, he is vice president, and bottom line, we're all americans, martha. if we can stabilize iraq, drive al-qaeda and most most po tamea out -- we all are americans and all this will be. you know it, i will be. >> obama was wrong to oppose the surge. >> rich, bottom line, on foreign policy challenges like afghanistan and iraq, if we can't work together as americans, we all lose. >> that's not what obama believed as senator obviously nor joe biden nor the rest of the democratic party. >> well, not all democrats, but bottom line, if we can't stand for bipartisanship, we lose.

try to imagine if george bush or dick cheney was going to address the nation's children and wanted you to fill out worksheets. how could you help him? there would be an uproar. create a poster with youro pare. not all parents want their children to think about how they can help the president. >> that is why i would not be surprised at how, right or wrong, some parents opt to keep their parents' home keep their children home t approval d popularity, but the honeymoon is over. for people who are against obama, who have an honest disagreement with him, to find out that there first grader is now going to be asked to talk about what they can do to be helpful to obama, that will be upsetting to some parents. megyn: they are asking teachers to encourage the students to read books about barack obama in the context of the address. the question is what books. odds are it will be teachers that are liberal, as they tended to be. parents might think that they should decide what my child read what it comes to political figures. i guess we will wait to see what he says and follow up from there. thank

karl rove, former senior advisor, deputy chief of staff to president george bush and fox news contributor. good morning to you, karl. great to be with you the past week. nice to see you back in washington. >> it was fun. they let you go home earlier tuesday night than they did me. bill: i'm grateful for that. kudos for you staying up to 5:00 a.m. "wall street journal", this is what you write about rick santorum. mr. santorum should not kid himself. he faces huge obstacles. he spent a year making iowa his second home. you have the whiteboard. what is the challenge for santorum? lay that out. >> he did a superb job and won an incredible second place finish. nearly took the top spot but he did so by focusing on one state. now he has got a lot of more states. he has 49 others to worry about. 50, 49 states and district of columbia. last night was the filing deadline to get on the d.c. republican primary ballot. 1,000 signatures required. rick santorum was only major candidate not to submit signatures. friday, he has got to submit 3 to 5,000 signatures to get on the illinois ballot. that is jus

george w. bush signed the first -- >> bill: did that do much? >> it said to the agencies tell us how much is being improperly paid. it took almost ten years to get the bill that said wait a second, the agencies need an incentive to make sure the money isn't wasted, and that was the bill that president obama signed last year. but by that time the problem had grown to $125 billion. bill: do you think what they signed a year ago will help? will it make a difference? >> there are more incentives to get the money back, there are better incentives to keep track, but you're right in the sense that it doesn't require a lot of work for the social security administration to notify every agency, every time an individual passes away, and those payments should stop immediately and automatically through a centralized system which unfortunately requires an investment that congress doesn't like making, because it's not that excite to go do that. bill: and a little more evident, too, tom schatz, thank you, citizens against waste. we appreciate you sharing, we'll

the focus needs to be on washington republicans to come to the table, george w. bush, ronald reagan, and get immigration reform done at the federal level where it belongs. arthel: alysha is -- >> it's been five years that we've had this discussion. arthel: that's why i asked you if you felt like the administration needed to be more public and clear on what they're doing. >> i don't know how much -- yeah, i just don't know how much more public they can be barack obama gave an incredible speech on immigration, he has made it clear this is a priority, but he's also made it clear if we're going to do this, it's got to northbound a bipartisan fashion. the only bill that actually passes is the one that has a republican co-sponsor. that's why it's so disheartening that republicans -- jon kyl, john mccain, they need to come back to the tail. >> what you hear coming out of washington, though, are appeals for amnesty. that's all we ever hear from this administration. and we hear phony promises of putting troops on the border, there's never the followup and the reality is t

. >> and what does the other side have -- >> in the case, it is apparently george bush. >> he's -- >> he left office two years ago. >> you have jon cornyn of texas and senator -- and, getting republicans elected saying people are missing george w. bush and we have to think about what bush did and you you have republicans talking about going to the bush years and having buyer's remorse. bill: the strategy, you know -- >> if they stop talking about it. >> do you think it works is a strategy. >> i think it will work, people need to be reminded. people have short-term memories in politics and need to be reminded about the shape the country was left when obama took over. bill: and we remember a deficit with 3.5 trillion as opposed to -- and an unemployment rate, not supposed to go above 8%. >> and, bush left the place in shambles with two wars, one of which is thankfully, finally coming to an end, it seems and he said mission accomplished, 4-5 years too early and people need to be reminded of what was inherited. bill: and republicans would argue that you cannot run from one issue. and that

bush. president carter, it was up 5% then. but in this case, it is down on a negative number of .3%. >> that is a very critical number and i think the key thing is that romney doesn't have to go out and hammer obama. he just has to talk about what he's going to do. the american public knows answering the question they posed at the beginning of this that but they are not better off. unemployment is not going down, there is big deck, kids can't get jobs out of college. what is going on? bill: is romney going to do that? >> he is moving forward in the fall. i be talking about what i would do and quit beating up on obama at. bill: bill: thank you very much, ed rollins. patti: and the battle of the catchphrases on the campaign trail. first, president obama thing this. >> he is giving the tax cuts for people making more than $3 million a year. it is like robin hood in reverse. it is transport. patti: and governor romney is responding by the catchphrase of his own. we have been watching the presid

bush... bill: you are calling it a flip. juan is it a flip, technically? >> i don't think it is a flip. i think they've wanted to do it at the white house. as i said i think the political dynamics here at the moment, make it difficult, unlikely that you could get the votes to get it done. so, i think what the president is saying now, may be in the sense, something along what justin is saying, i think he wants to make it clear to the hispanic community, that he wants something that he is trying to get something done but i'm not sure that even the white house believes at this point, that this cake is cooked and ready for the hill to handle. bill: why did he make the comment, it is cinco de mayo and fits with the theme in the country yesterday. >> no, it is political, he's trying to say to the hit panic communi -- hispanic people that he is one with them and he's getting pressure from the hispanic community and, even al sharpton saying, why isn't the president acting and people think the federal

those were permitted during george bush's administration. the 20%, 2% number, that we use 20% of the world's oil and only half, 2% of the world's reserves, please, give me a break with that one. martha: he said, we're at an eight year high in domestic oil and gas supply. you hinted at some of the reason behind this. and you say it can't be attributed to anything he did as president because they were private leases, but does the fact remain that right now we are at an eight-year high in domestic oil and gas supply, is that true? >> reporter: yes, that is true. that is true, but we're at an eight year-at 5.6 million barrels today. we produced as much as 9.5 million barrels a day in past administrations. most importantly, do you when this barack obama was first elected president and he said we can't drill our way out of it. if we put a drill bit in the ground right now it would be five or ten years before we see any of the oil hit our refineries. he said that himself. if we use his own words there is no way in three years the oil that he's seei

. >> reporter: like bill clinton and george w. bush. martha: thank you very much. our religion correspondent with that story. bill: is the u.s. sinking deeper into debt? how bad is the budget? how bad is the economic outlook? breaking news on that. we'll bring it to you at the top of the hour. martha: we have a top democrat weighing in on this mosque debate. what howard dean is saying about plans to build at g at ground z. the latest fox news updates will go right into our inbox. go right into our inbox. how a once daily medicine about that.glyza, used with diet and exercise to control high blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. adding onglyza to your current oral medicine may help reduce after meal blood sugar spikes and may help reduce high morning blood sugar. [ male announcer ] onglyza should not be used to treat type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. tell your doctor if you have a history or risk of diabetic ketoacidosis. onglyza has not been studied with insulin. using onglyza with medicines such as sulfonylureas may cause low blood sugar. some sympto

. >> but, if you go back and look at a, whether george bush, in his first term, there are people who didn't want to campaign with him and george bush, the elder didn't want to campaign with them, and bill clinton and almost by definition, presidents get themselves into the most controversial areas their first year, that is the time they think they have the most political capital which tends to be controversial and in this case you have health care which is controversial, if you are a member of congress in a moderate district, if they need money they will have no problem having the president of the united states come in and campaign for them. uma: you think either way in terms of where the health care vote goes, that president obama will be controversial when it comes to his stand on the issue? >> he's -- look, he is controversial, on the health care issue, no question about that. although, andrea, i like her, and it wasn't two republicans who didn't show up in missouri, it was two democrats and that will not be unusual. there will be people who don't want to -- the republicans to get

they wanted to highlight not george w. bush. they did not like many of the things that he did in the past eight years. you heard president obama directly challenge some of those things. that does not do him any good. but does not do the country any good, but it was expected when he referenced gitmo, and they sort of things we have come to expect. bill: thank you. good to see you. martha: a lot of talk about norway today, and not just because of president obama's nobel peace prize. people out there, quite a surprise when a mysterious spy row of lights -- spiral of light in the sky. wait until you hear what they were actually witnessing. what's our favorite part of honey bunches of oats? the sparkly flakes. the honey-baked bunches! the magic's in the mix. my favorite part? eating it. honey bunches of oats. taste the joy we put in every spoonful. we call the bunches in honey bunches of oats the prize in the box. well, now there's a prize inside the prize. pecans! pecans! baked into crunchy oat bunches. taste the delicious surprise

former president george w. bush used to say that businesses need permanent tax cuts to help them make long term planning but mr. bush, of course, his tax cuts were only temporary because he couldn't come up with the votes to make them permanent and the strategy was to then, put political pressure on congress to extend the tax cuts by saying the lawmakers -- to lawmakers if they didn't do so were effectively voting for a tax increase and i should point out we got a report today that fourth quarter gdp actually went up 5.7%, and the president's council on economic advisors, christina romer says that is an indication the recovery is proceeding in a normal fashion. she says that that is going to let businesses be more comfortable about hiring more workers, and, this tax proposal is an attempt to get them to do it now, instead of waiting 6 to 12 months to do so. martha: let's hope that that is going to be a sign of recovery, for the u.s. economy, everybody will be glad to hear that, wendell goler thank you very much

he says he obama is adopting a lot of policies put in place by president bush. brit hume addresses both issues coming up. martha: president obama says he's launching a review of government rules and regulations to make sure they are not redunn danlts. george pataki weighs in: prunes? they're a delicious source of nutrients. wow! it's packaged by itself... that's fantastic! that is so juicy. this is delicious. sunsweet ones. over 400 million enjoyed, and counting. martha: boy, one of the big headlines today, gas prices starting to come dangerously ose to levels we really haven't seen in a couple of years. and they are on their way back to $100 a barrel. some observers say and, oil prices back up a little bit after opec announced they would up the output, you see the game go on, back and forth, the usual. but it is not 2008 any more when we were at the beginning of the very fragile economy. $4 a gallon could, some economists say have far-reaching impacts on our economy. that is how we start a new hour of "america's newsroom." welcome, everybody, it is great to hav

w bush. gentlemen, welcome, great to see you today. alan i'll begin with you. what do you think of the strategy that mitt romney is playing out at this point. do you think it will serve him well? >> i think it will serve him well, anything he's doing in eye ways unexpected than what he's done in new hampshire. newt gingrich is pledged to running run a positive campaign but he's taking shots at mitt romney. they snipe at each other. he's going after who his likely opponent will be and i think he will be the nominee coming up. uma: you see that newt is getting a little worried now that he's slipping in the polls. we see a candidate backtracking a bit and going after some of his opponents, specifically mitt romney. >> he certainly is. the candidate who said he was going to take the high road has veered off to the low roads. his ads are the attack dog while his personal appearances, his lofty speeches are about taking down obama. the candidate needs to stay positive, his ads can be a little more

bush, it was ohio who put bush over the top, beating kerry by two points, and winning the white house in the second term with 118,000 votes over then senator -- then presidential candidate senator john kerry. where are we today? new national poll that we just talked about with senator portman, this is specific to ohio right now, this was taken toward the end of january, beginning of february, santorum had a lead on mitt romney, when you average all the polls together, by about eight points and now we see whether that changes, and if it does, in what way coming off of michigan this past week. the delegate count stacks like this. romney is at 167, santorum, 87, the total you need to get the nomination, 1144. we're a long way from that right now. so you can expect the battle through march and april and possibly beyond. carl cameron is live in franklin county, the capitol city of columbus, but romney is in north dakota. what's going on? good morning, carl. >> reporter: well, good morning bill. north dakota is of course a caucus state coming up on supertuesday and romney is spending some t

joined by karl rove, former campaign adviser to george w. bush and a fox news contributor. good morning. >> good morning. martha: when you look at republican numbers and the republican chances which have really been pinned largely on the need to turn around the economy, does that concern you? >> just a little bit. i mean, remember, the numbers that you saw there, most of them were above the national average of 8.2%. and let's also keep in mind that part of the reason for the drop in the unemployment rates in these states is that people have got even so discouraged they are no longer looking for work. we have the largest number of americans ever who are not part of the workforce, and if you had the size of the workforce was the same as it was when we went into this difficulty, the unemployment rates would be about 11%. but the biggest problem the president faces is, do people give him credit for whatever good is going on out there in the economy? and i thought there was a very interesting poll recently in which they said, all right president obama's policies, have they hurt

former white house deputy chief of staff, senior adviser to president george w. bush karl rove will be joining us very shortly here on "america's newsroom." ♪ martha: well, a only out-of-court settlement is reportedly in the works in a civil lawsuit against the blade runner as he is known, otherwise known as oscar disto have yous. he was indicted yesterday, very dramatic video in court. he is there, of course, on charges of murdering his model girlfriend. her family says that they were financially dependent on her, and they've filed a multimillion dollar lawsuit. a local newspaper report says that attorneys for disto have yous want to settle that suit before the criminal trial begins in march. ♪ ♪ gregg: vice president joe biden admitted to a texas hospital after a dizzy spell. a spokesperson for bo biden saying that he got weak and disoriented while driving on a family vacation. his dad, joe biden, had accompanied him to a houston-area hospital. bo biden will undergo a series of tests there. martha: and a new twist in the edward snowden nsa leak case. what

former senior advisor to president george w. bush and karl, good morning. good to see you. >> i'm fine. how are you? martha: how do you feel about the fact that medicare has become so central to this debate? >> there was going to be a debate about medicare. the question whether it would be on the republicans terms now, out in the open or whether it would be on democrat terms with late night phone calls to seniors in the closing days of the campaign and really ugly mail pieces scaring the heck out of seniors about republicans taking away their medicare. republicans want to have the debate now and want to have it for one very important reason. they have something they can hang their hat on. president obama, as part of obamacare, took $716 billion out of medicare in order to fund obamacare. he took the basically, used, the medicare as a piggybank to pay for obamacare. the reductions primarily in two areas. $415 billion cut from payments to doctors and hospitals. now this is going to be a real problem. first of all we have 14 million people that work in health

joining us now to talk about it, allan cooms, brad blakeman, former assistant to george w. bush. brad, if a president with abysmal approval ratings is still beating any potential gop contenders, doesn't that say that the field is pretty weak? >> absolutely, the field is weak, and we're seeing the president could very well win by default, despite his many policy deficiencies and failure to lead. what it tells me, no serious republican has announced yet, no serious republican is being talked about, and what you're seeing now is the polls are really irrelevant because i believe that none of the seven that you've discussed so far with people who are selectable by the party, therefore, not electable by the people, because they'll never get past the convention of the primaries. gregg: allan, let me put on the screen how the president matches up. he does his best among the gop candants -- or mitt romney does the best among the candidates, getting 45 percent, compared to president obama's 49 percent, and president obama does his best, 55 percent, when matched against sarah palin, just 38

, when the gop had power under george bush, that spending was off the charts. that's increased, obviously, to get the t.a.r.p. and other things that have been going on in the obama administration, trying to fix the mess, and democrats are going to take some of the heat, too, a lot of the heat, but this is not going to be one party getting kicked out. this is going to be a lot of incumbents in trouble. martha: i hear you, i think you're right on there. let's play this piece that's getting a lot of attention, because the tea party rises, some say the cul maination of it in sarah palin. let's look at this video she put out. i want to get your thoughts on that. >> watch out, there's a whole stampede of pink elephants crossing the line, campaigning through, for november 2nd, 2010. a lot of women coming together. martha: sarah palin is a contributor to fox news, we should point out. this video is getting a lot of attention because folks say it looks presidential, it looks like somebody who is running for president. what i noticed in it, she's tapping into this mom aw

bush, and is a fox news contributor. karl, good to see u let's put our own fox news poll on the screen, the stimulus is still not popular, 46% say it made no difference. 23% said it hurt. but, look, i read your op-ed and you are giving advice to the g.o.p. nominee. the g.o.p. nominee should fiercely challenge mr. obama's policies and actions using the president's own words, you wrote and that is precisely what mitt romney is doing, isn't it. >> i thought it was a smart move on his part to do the research and find out the plant was closed and go to the exact place the president went to tout the success of stimulus program to point out the underlying philosophy of it, we can somehow, as a nation spend our way to prosperity, is not -- has not worked out and a smart move on his part and to do it the same day the president was a few miles away in philadelphia as smart. gregg: and on what to do and not to do, on the latter you say the nominee should not adopt a tone that is harshly negative and personally anti-obama and you sa

late into the night in 2004 george bush winning a second term based on the results in ohio that night. so we'll look forward to seeing how many times these guys are in ohio. you think about these battleground states, and you and i living in new york and new jersey we may not see a single presidential campaign ad over the next few months. martha: that's true. saw quite a few in florida. bill: quite a flew. the eight, nine, ten battleground states, these folks will be just be hit over the head with this stuff. martha: i think even the president claimed where he was somewhere where he saw too many of himself in ads when he was trying to watch a came. there is that. how about this the romney ryan ticket weathering repeated tax by the president over medicare. are those attacks accurate? the romney campaign will respond to that next. bill: an immigration experiment that costs u.s. taxpayers millions of dollars is coming to an end. we'll tell you why there will be no more free flights home for people coming to the u.s. illegally. martha: it is a public union versus a broke city. chicago teac

bush hoisted hu jintao, in a very different way, an official visit. it was a meeting in the oval office, none of what we are seeing related to all of this and, denied him the privileges of a full state visit which is what we are witnessing, right now, and nina easton from "fortune" magazine is here with more. why is it different, this time. >> it is different for a couple of reasons, first of all, you have to understand the co-dependents relationship of these two nations. we are still reeling from a recession. china, right now, is going gangbusters. 10% economic growth. i was -- >> versus our 3%. >> and our extremely nagging, high unemployment and i was there last year spending time with the u.s. ambassador, john huntsman and everywhere you go, cranes are there, buildings, building railways an office buildings and so on and they are going gangbusters and this feel -- and plus they own a big chunk of our debt and they -- the power dynamic has changed. they feel the need to flex their muscle on the world economic stage, and, it is affecting our ability

specter with george w. bush on the campaign trail. a couple of years ago. bill? bill: it will be interesting. it has been that way already. live in philadelphia, today, carl cameron on the trail and we'll be in touch with him throughout the day. martha: yes, we will and they are playing the blame game in the gulf and the president is expected to come out swinging. the political fallout of the oil spill. bill: also, arizona's taking the toughest stance in the country on immigration. now, one state lawmaker says he wants to take it one step further. that lawmaker is on deck, live, in three minutes. martha: listen to this: a state representative in oklahoma says what arizona is doing with the immigration bill is not tough enough. over the last few years he's pushed through several measures to drive illegal representatives out of his state, the republican joins me now, sir, good to have you with us. good morning to you. >> good morning, martha. good morning. martha: what are you doing in oklahoma and, why is it tougher than what they are doing in arizona? >> well, ok

but the world was in agreement, but it was really george bush's standing and why. today, they said there was nothing new in anything obama said. nothing new from a year ago when george bush was president and nothing new according to the bbc. what you said is true, but it puts the lie to the narrative that it was just george bush standing in the way. bill: we will keep our focus on 2009. did we come away empty from copenhagen? was this a waste of jet fuel? >> you have to remember that these things take time to put together. there is the ad did you can bring the obama administration in last january and get a deal done by december, which does not make sense. i have been a negotiator. it takes months. the truth is that we did not have the possibility beginning last giving the obama team was just stepping up. there has been a huge amount of progress. we will get a commitment to action. frankly, we do need to china and india to step up and commit to verifiable a emissions reductions i think what we're seeing is the emergence of a new framework, particularly a focus on th

bush. he is also a fox news contributor. love to get your take on the speech but i want to get first of all, karl, your take on the jobs numbers that just came out. economists were expecting and hoping for 125,000 new jobs. instead it is 96,000. so obviously the job market is slowing but the president will likely say, hey, wait a minute, see, we're heading in the right direction because the overall unemployment number dropped from 8.3 to 8.1. >> well look, as stuart varney pointed out earlier while they gained 96,000 jobs and unemployment rate went down the only reason it did because four times as many people became so discouraged they dropped out of the workforce all together. think about that. 96,000 people get jobs. 368,000 are so discouraged they give up. we now have the lowest workforce participation rate, 63.5%, that we've had in 32 years. gregg: is that lost on the voter though, karl? they will see that one number. that is the simplification of the whole thing? >> no. look here's why. u-6, this the broadest range of,

wish bush. there's a lot going on, a lot of talk about the message, when you've got jon stewart and also a story coming from arianna huffington which foretells some of what's going to be in her book. mark, when you've got these folks who have been supportive of the president slamming him primarily over this mosque issue, you got something to deal with. >> well, i don't know that they're being unsupportive. they're pointing out that he took a very clear stand on principle, saying there's an absolute constitutional right to build a mosque or an islamic cultural center anywhere that they're zoned to do it and that's exactly what the president said, if you can build a church there, you can build a mosque there, but he didn't weigh in on the -- he put principle over the polls. martha: i'm not sure why he didn't put the two comments together. he could have said we know they have the right to do it and in front of that crowd at the white house that evening he could have then added but i'm not sure it's

bush in the past, judith miller is a pulitzer prize winning investigative reporter and fellow at the manhattan institute and fox news contributor. always good to talk to her. hey, judith, how are you doing. this is one of those things, hearing the president of afghanistan saying, yes. they give me millions of dollars, money in bags, while our soldiers are fighting there on the ground. >> and casualties running at two a day, and, not only is karzai acknowledging it, he's boasting about it and shoving it in our faces, in a press conference yesterday he confirmed it and said he was grateful for the money and the money, walking around money, and the kind of chicago political sense enabled him to pay lots of expenses and do what we needed to do to keep peace at home and rather than running away from the story he's embracing it despite the fact his aides denied it and the iran ye -- iranian ambassador denied it. martha: and, leaving afghanistan and pulling out of afghanistan, the worry is that iran would assert its influence there and iraq, money flowing into fewer enemies in that country

bush famously declared the end of major combat operations in iraq. first, here is the president. >> we traveled through more than a decade under the dark cloud of war yet here, in the predrawn darkness of afghanistan, we can see the light of a new day on the horizon. martha: in 2003 president bush took a lot of heat for standing in front of that mission accomplished sign you see on the back of the aircraft carrier there as he delivered his speech on iraq. >> major combat operations in iraq have ended, and the battle of iraq the united states and our allies have prevailed. [cheers and applause] martha: big question today, is the president risking his own mission accomplished moment with this speech last night? tucker carlson, editor of "the daily caller" and fox news contributor. alan colmes is the host of the alan colmes radio show. welcome to both of you gentlemen. i looked up some numbers this morning. after president bush gave that speech on the aircraft carrier talking about iraq, 4270 servicemen and women were killed in iraq. after that date. do

there is no question that george bush soured u.s. relations around the world. there is no question that barack obama has gone a long way to repairing the damage, but i do not believe that the olympics were turned down because of george bush. i do not agree with jackson on that. it is counter intuitive. he would almost think that they would want to reward barack obama for giving them chicago. i do not buy that argument. patti ann: a democrat from illinois says that there was not enough time for barack obama to dispel the old image. do you buy that? >> i think this was barack obama's emperor has no clothes moment. the guy should have gone over their only if he knew that he had it locked up. he expanded on a lot of political capital over there. he saw that he could woo the olympic committee. democrats are making fools of themselves by continuously blaming things on george bush. when will this stop? i heard bob himself a couple months ago saying that barack obama was the best economic president since roosevelt. patti ann: when an american president voluntarily take

alisyn: former president george w. bush speaking out about the killing of usama bin laden. the former president spoke to the lancaster chamber of commerce and industry in pennsylvania last night, reflecting on his time in the white house. president bush defended authorizing the use of enhanced interrogation techniques some say helped find him. and, about finding usama bin laden, finding out he was dead, he said, quote, i was not joyous, i was pleased. america should never be seeking revenge, we should be seeking justice and justice was rightly done. bill: that is only the second time he has talked about that. okay, sounding the alarm now. on a dangerous bacteria sparking a massive and deadly outbreak, the new strain of e. coli, never been seen before, hitting adults, especially women, and infecting hundreds and already killing 18 people. dr. marc siegel writes about it on foxnews.com, part of our medical a-team, good to see you this morning. >> good morning, bill. bill: it is happening in europe, right? >> absolutely. germany primarilprimarily, an e shaped like a-rod, extre

and he will not be able to run again against george w. bush, and, his hope and change has become debt an nd numb employmu. alisyn: kirsten, last word. >> yes. it is absolutely going to be about the economy. that goes without saying. i don't disagree. but i'm saying it is ridiculous to suggest that republicans haven't spent a lot of money when they have been in power. alisyn: you make a good point. both republican and democrat -- republicans and democrats have found their way to the checkbooks! >> exactly. alisyn: but we'll see if it becomes a litmus test for the campaign. matt guillen, kirsten powers, thanks for coming onto debate. bill: in a moment, an update on a story we first talked about last week in "america's newsroom." they fought proudly for their country and now, a group of veterans fighting to keep god in the prayers at cemeteries. alisyn: and did the state make their case in the anthony trial? the defense says it's an accident that snow balled out of control and the prosecution, says if it looks like a crime, it usually is, ju

let's bring in karl rove on this the, former senior adviser to president george w. bush. welcome, always good to talk to you. >> thanks, martha. martha: so what do you think? this was sort of back burnerred, now it's rising from the dead, and the president has his own plan. >> well, this is high stakes pause the president is going to lay out this package three days before this highly-publicized, highly-visible meeting with republicans and democrats at the blair house to discuss health care, and we're now seeing discussion that they're going to have a plan that they could pass through the senate with 51 votes. but, look, there's a lot of clarity that we need to have on this. for example, is this a bill that they're going to present to the senate that assumes that the house passes the senate health care bill, and then this bill merely makes modifications to that set of bill? or is this an entirely new bill that involves major changes from the house and the senate and is expected to pass the senate with 51 votes and then go to be passed by the house? this still is a very con

it's true that george bush -- george bush essentially had the same position as ted kennedy on immigration reform, and karl rove was another person who had really urged the party to embrace some short of comprehensive immigration reform. it went nowhere and it became a flash point. let's not try to pretend that this has just been something that was ignored. this was a real flash point, it was something that the conservative base gets very riled up about, and it is something that played a big part in the primary, and really alienated. gregg: like the spanking at the polls on tuesday. whenever you get the spanking you kind of straighten up and reconsider your behavior. tony, americans are very compassionate and have a great sense of fairness. they understand that more than a million americans came here as children of illegals through no fault of their own. isn't it time for your party to engage in a full-throated endorsement of the d.r.e.a.m. act or something similar being crafted by rubio? >> exactly i think senator rube kwroeu is the kind of leader who is taking a very reasonable step, ext

bush and 2004 where john kerry and george w. bush were very close. and then you look at some of the built-in advantages republicans have in the state today, whether paul ryan being on the ticket. whether scott walker having won his recall election on june 5th and expanded his margin from 2010. reince priebus being chairman of the republican national committee. republicans are pretty fired up in wisconsin these days. bill: you mentioned 2004, here are the results, 50-49 kerry over bush. it was less than that. it was .35% of the total vote in the state. >> right. bill: so your point is well-taken. go back to 2008. i want to pop down to ohio because later tonight in the southwestern corner of the state, hamilton county, city of cincinnati, westchester, ohio, is the town. do you know who is from there? >> i don't know, somebody really cool. bill: house speaker john boehner is from westchester, ohio. they will have rudy giuliani and condoleezza rice and the list goes on and on later tonight. the reason they're doing that, steve, you see the border countie

when president bush was president, you literally had people coming out with pictures of george bush looking like a nzi. nazi. what is fair for the goose should be fair for the gander. >> they love grass roots when those roots are planted in liberal ground. when it is seated in opposition, they love to fight it. but this is not just conservatives. 60% of independents completely opposed barack obama is healthcare plan. megyn: do you think this will alienate more of them? >> i think they are discounting this outrage. they're independent, conservative democrats, american people. how can congress look at the last six months and say that they have done anything correct? there congressional approval rating, 60% of americans disapproved. megyn: doesn't even matter if they are organized? if they come from tea bag organizations, and does it matter? >> i know congress has not read their bills lightly, but maybe they should be the constitution. it is called freedom of assembly. there is nothing wrong with getting together and boys in your opinion, in a civil way. megyn: thank you. bill: find a way, cla

bush and joe trippi, a fox news contributor. let me ask you, the president won the support of the arab league and the united nations and didn't win the support of congress. didn't get their official sign-off. a lot of people there on the left and the right up on capitol hill really angry about this. where does it leave the president with congress? >> well, look the president is the president of the united states and not the secretary-general of the u.n. it is not his job to form an international coalition and go about waging war and not advising the congress, leadership and most importantly advising the american people and those he's sending into battle, what their mission is. there is no defined mission and the president is masking his incompetence with arrogance and dismissiveness towards the co-equal branch of government and general -- democrats and republicans deserve to put the president's feet to the fire to define the mission. heather: joe you heard the complaints from the right and left, what does the president do, and w

bush. those comments pushed back against the cheney's strong statement against cia interrogation inquiries. >> i think it is an outrageous political act that will do great damage long-term to our capacity to be able to have people take on difficult jobs and make difficult decisions without having to worry about what the next administration will do. bill: congressman jerry adler, a longtime critic of the former vice-president, will be our guest here on that same topic. megyn: fox news alert, massive wildfires burning out of control in los angeles. check out these live pictures coming into "america's newsroom ." this is outside of los angeles. the largest of several fires burning across the state. dry, hot weather and a massive wall of flames burning around the los angeles national forest. the fire is getting worse. 53 homes have been destroyed. the fires are threatening thousands more as we speak. new evacuations are taking place this morning. joining me on the phone is in car, the fire info

bush. gentlemen, welcome. good to have you here. a lot of question about the way that this is being presented and now rebels on the ground are losing ground, you know, it looks, you know, brad as if we help them for a couple of days with air power and took out what we could, and now is flipping back and the president high school a problem in terms of what he might do next. >> absolutely, cut-and-run strategy where we help a little and the president is spooked and tells the american people we are not for regime change in his national address. yet, a few weeks ago, he was talking about the fact that this leader has to go. nothing short of qaddafi leaving is going to be a success in the u.s. and, furthermore, we have a problem, that transcends libya and it is focused on libya but it is a melt down of north africa and the middle east, the entire region and the president failed to recognize and establish for the american people it transcends libya and assuming we make inroads there we have a bunch of other countries that surround libya a

. >> president barack obama: they don't have a single idea that is different from george bush's ideas. not one. [applause]. >> president barack obama: instead, they are betting on amnesia. that is what they are counting on, counting on "they all forgot" and they think they can run the okey-doke on you. bamboozle ya. martha: okay-doke and bamboozle, 18 months into his term, the president still takes time out, usually in most speeches, and interviews, to blame the prior administration for at least part of what is going on in the country and meanwhile the latest "usa today" gallup shows that he has hit a record low in his approval ratings, 41% of americans say they approve of the job he is doing and, so, could it show the whole blame bush strategy is not working, perhaps? guess who is here, alan colmes, a host of the fox radio show, the alan colmes show and, i bet the president at this point would be happy to switch his age, of his birthday and his approval ratings. >> i'd love to wish him a happy birthday and people are saying it's not really his birthday. but, look his ratings are simi

actually under george w. bush, i'm the daughter of liberian immigrants. liberian immigrants had a deferred action program that worked very well for many years. there is even a song out where liberian immigrants thank george w. bush, and that being one of those reasons. but i think we have to be, you know, really specific about the community we're talking about, these young people who are future scientists, doctors, lawyers, contributing to american society, aspiring citizens. rick: understood. >> and prioritize the prosecutions. martha: let me just say i think it's very important to focus on who we're talking about. and there are very, very many worthy individuals, and that's who the program is designed for. i think it's great that the worthy individuals could qualify for some relief. the concern is that there could be an individual who is 28 years old at the prime recruiting age for al-qaida who lies to the government, said he's been in the country since he's 7 years old and that individual just by saying he went to high school is now eligible to work in

and 2000, john mccain over george bush. and that played to mccain's favor in 2008 when he beat romney again. >> if newt is able to be even or slightly win iowa, then hold romney even in new hampshire. those are weaker states for romney, stronger for gingrich. so if -- it's a big if, newt can sustain himself against the barrage coming at him. he's in the position he could win his nomination and shake up america in ways two weeks ago no one would have thought possible. bill: the polling was done apparently after all the criticism came out about freddie mac. >> republicans are always sceptical when one of their own are being attacked by the media. look at herman cain. even after all the allegations about this conduct came out. bill: we'll see whether this holds. thank you, doug. doug schoen and pat caddell say 2012 may be the moment for hillary clinton. doug and pat have more on that as they host "campaign confidential." it's a live show on foxnews.com that streams live every monday. go to foxnews.com, click on the "watch fox

. >> george herbert walker bush, in recognition of your fearless contributions to the military during world war ii and cold war effort, dartmouth award you doctor of laws. bill: honors at the new hampshire commencement. also on hand. late night host conan o'brien. >> i myers job is to illustrate that life is not fair. you have worked tirelessly for four years to earn the diploma you will be receiving this weekend. that was great. and dartmouth has given me the same degree for interviewing the fourth lead in "twilight." deal with it. another example that life is not fair. if it does rain the powerful rich people on stage get the tent. bill: life lessons. dartmouth. patti ann: weeks after a report on government waste uncovered a study of shrimp on the treadmill the white house is announce a new plan to cut fraud and abuse of government funds. what is the white house say being this new effort? >> the president himself says that what he wants to do is eliminate what he calls pointless waste and stupid spending. as you will remember the president first raised this in his state of the union

. >> george bush and his predecessor created jobs faster than you did, governor. bill: it went from there. was there an edge on jobs? >> it was like a tennis match with both of these guys at the net. perry has the edge on jobs because of his record of job creation in texas. if he didn't have that job creation record he wouldn't be in the race. it's his strongest part. romney did pretty well attacking him and defending a record that's okay but not as impressive as perry's. bill: the next two debates are both in florida where social security is a huge issue so that will come up again with rick perry and the rest of the panelists. newt gingrich was firing bombs from the left side of the stage. a lot of people those was hot. we'll get to him in a minute. perry was the clear front runner in a poll that has flip-flopped. it has gone back and forth. 26% perry, romney at 18 follows him. do these numbers change as of last night? >> my feeling is the order will not change. perry will stay in the lead. i think the margin may get closer. you may see romney moving up but my gu