oversaw harsh interrogations of prisoners after 9/11? we talk with an ethicist. also, the gaithers-- bill and gloria-- legends in gospel music. >> are you a minister or a musician? >> yes, yes. next question. and the jewish practice of tikkun olam-- repairing the world after hurricaneatrina, four years ago this weekend. plus, for muslims, the discipline and spiritual rewards of ramadan. captioning sponsored by the lilly endowment >> abernethy: welcome. i'm bob abernethy. good to have you with us. religious leaders across the spectrum were among those offering tributes after the death of senator edward kennedy this week. several faith groups praised his support for healthcare reform as a moral issue and his work on poverty, immigration and civil rights. kennedy was a roman catholic who advocated strict separation of church and state. he sometimes took stands that conflicted with the teachings of his church, such as his support for abortion rights. but he also sided with the church on many social justice issues. boston cardinal sean o'malley issued a statement saying kennedy was quot