george w. bush at the nato russia summit in april 2008 in bucharest. he said, georges you realize this isn't a real country, right? ukraine is not a country. this is how he sees it. >> that's really interesting. i mean, so putin had his eyes on it for a while. >> yeah. at the same summit, sorry to interrupt, at the same summit he said there was talk of taking ukraine into nato and he said, you know what, if you guys take ukraine, i'm taking crimea. he's been looking for pretext to take crimea for at least six years. >> the question i have, though, if we're talking about 20,000 russian troops being on the ground, this being a long-term goal of vladimir putin's, no one, you know, basically no one in the united states, no one in the west talking about putting troops on the ground to fight him here. if this referendum passes on the 16th, i mean, are we looking at a scenario where there's no way to keep russia from taking this if they want it? >> i think we've been looking at the scenario for a few days. crimea's gone. it's russia. the russian parliament introduced this law laying the groun