the late i'm a great jimmy stewart's character, jefferson smith, ed come to washington full of national pride and wonder and yet in a short time, he has been framed and scandalized by the forces of washington corruption. he is about to be banished from the u.s. senate. in a pivotal scene, he stands with his suitcase in hand, statuely sobbing in the -- in the shadow of the statue of abraham lincoln. he is implored to resist the forces of corruption. she says the following -- your friend, mr. lincoln, had his enemies. so did every other man who try to lift his thoughts up off the ground. odds against them did not stop them. they were fools that way. all the good that ever came into the world came from. faith like that. they're not all tailored in washington. that kind just throw big shadows. you do not have faith in any other living man. you had faith in something other than that. you had decent, everyday, common rightness and the country can use that. you said mr. lincoln was sitting up there waiting for someone to come along. you're right. he was waiting for men to see his job and saili

thomas jefferson was the preeminent scientist of his day. size andpple with the ask the basic questions. i did -- i think the scientific -- ance is overwhelmingly overwhelming consensus that the climate is changing in ways that negatively impact the planet and humans have a significant defect. not the only effect. there are plenty of others. we'll continue. human effect is significant. when i hear from witnesses or anybody who contacts me about this when not grapple with the signs who denies it or pretense have as -- pretends, i hard time taking deposition. -- taking that position. i think any organization should only yes or no. you can acknowledge some continued debate. i think people should take a position on the science and all willingness to take a position troubles me. i think those of us making decisions about we have to started their and take a position. i think the science is clear. i have lived and i am seeing it. sea levels are rising. there are people i know who live in homes that they cannot sell them now. they were built 100 yea

koskinen, as i said the declaration of independence, written largely initially the first draft by thomas jefferson but it was subject to an editorial committee. he didn't like that. he thought his words were pretty good. among those words were, americans were entitled to life, liberty, now hear the editorial committee did not act. he said, and the pursuit of happiness. but it sounds like some people would substitute that, unfettered and unquestioned access to 501(c)3 and 501(c)(4) stacks extell status. do you read that in the declaration of independence? >> i don't read that -- >> no it doesn't read that way. so it's not really an explicit entitlement or right. it's a process you have to qualify for, is that correct? >> correct. >> there are many different ways of trying to figure out how somebody qualifies, and whether they qualify, is that correct? >> yes. >> and by and large, historically, irs has had a standard operating procedure for determining those -- that status. either 501(c)3 or 501(c)(4) or other status. is that correct? >> correct. >> in this particular case, what we're all excited ab