forward, like kathleen willey, like paula jones. monica lewinsky was thrust into the situation. the truth of the matter is for all the talk hillary clinton is some kind of feminist pioneer, the truth is hillary clinton was always about protecting her political meal ticket, who was bill clinton. even at the expense of throwing these women under the bus. this suggestion somehow, and we just heard it from yes caw, but we constantly hear it from the left, it's okay to overlook men on the democratic side who abuse particular women, whether it's monica lewinsky or ted kennedy, any of that, okay to overlook that because they're good on women's issues. i they think that's a very corrosive and destructive thing. >> jessica, your response. i don't want to be two on one, but juanita brodrick, i interviewed her a long time ago, she said she was raped by bill clinton. she had a fat lip. this was not an insignificant charge against bill clinton. and some corroborating evidence, at least. so again, he's -- you can't touch bill clinton. he's a global celebrity. but is this relevant today? will this be re