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hello, it's 9am, i'm victoria derbyshire, welcome to the programme. as donald trump says he believes that torture can work to get information out of terrorism suspects, we'll be asking what impact his words will have across the world. we'll be speaking exclusively to raffaele sollecito, who, together with amanda knox, was wrongly imprisoned for the murder of british student meredith kercher. and, the last survivor of the dambusters raid on germany in 1943 has never received a knighthood. tv presenter and raf ambassador carol vorderman is leading a petition to try to change that. we'll be talking to her. about british veteran johnny johnson. hello. welcome to the programme, we're live until ”am this morning. all so later we are going to hear exclusive live from the nspcc, who are today calling the new child protection measures in sports clubs. we will bring you all the details, including the extra background checks you might have to go through if you work with children. do get in touch on that, it would be really interesting to hear your views, two loopholes they are calling for the government to close immediately. i would be interesting to hear what it is like trying to get a background check now if you work with children. do get in touch on all the stories we're talking about this morning — use the hashtag #victorialive. if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. our top story today... the us president donald trump has said he believes that torture can work to get information out of suspected terrorists. but he said he would seek further advice before deciding whether to bring back techniques such as water—boarding. speaking to the american abc network in his first televised interview since becoming president, he also repeated his pledge to make mexico pay for a wall along its border with the united states. here's our washington correspondent, david willis. could america be set for a return to the interrogation methods of old? a draft executive order suggests its commander—in—chief could be preparing to return to the dark days of waterboarding, by reopening the so—called black site secret prisons operated by the cia. in his first tv interview since becoming president, donald trump made clear he is considering scrapping an order by his predecessor that terrorist suspects be treated in accordance with international law. "torture works", the president declared. when they're chopping off the heads of our people and other people, when they're chopping off the heads of people because they happen to be a christian in the middle east, when isis is doing things that nobody has ever heard of since mediaeval times, would i feel strongly about water boarding? as far as i'm concerned, we have to fight fire with fire. reports suggest mr trump is also due to announce plans to close america's borders to refugees, for a period at least, and implement tougher visa restrictions on citizens from certain predominantly muslim nations with links to terrorism, what is known as extreme vetting. in an effort to quell the influx of illegal immigrants from mexico, mr trump has signed an executive order to begin work on building a wall between the two nations. a multimillion dollar venture that he insists mexico will be made to pay for. ultimately it'll come out of what's happening with mexico and we're going to be starting those negotiations soon, and we will be in a form reimbursed by mexico. so they'll pay us back? absolutely, 100%. that has ruffled the feathers of america's southern neighbour. in an address to the nation, mexico's president said they have no intention of footing the bill. the mexican president is due in washington next week. he faces difficult discussions with an american counterpart clearly determined to reverse many of the changes brought about by barack obama. david willis, bbc news, washington. with us now is our political guru norman smith. theresa may has a forthcoming meeting with donald trump. what's theresa may hoping to get out of the meeting? well, she wants to make sure that we are in lockstep with donald trump, that we are like that with the new us president. because while all british prime ministers go over there and talk about the special relationship, it seems to me theresa may is going on awful lot further. she talks about how, you know, we have fought in wars together. but she says that britain and america made the more than world, and we can read it again. she seems almost to be sort of harking back to an era when britain and america were the two superpowers who forged the way things were done in the world. she says we can do that again, we have shaped institutions and values and we can once again adopt that leadership role. the second very striking thing is she seems to be pretty much budding brexit on the same page as mr trump's election victory, saying both heart of change and renewal and a time when countries rediscover the sense of self—confidence. you get the very clear impression that she wants to put us as close as possible to donald trump. the reason for that, the don't have to be einstein, is because obviously we are leaving the eu, and we need new relationships, and boy, oh boy, do we need that strong alliance with america and that trade deal. and that means being as close as possible to donald trump. donald trump as we heard has been talking about torture. what sort of reaction has there been to his comments? very interesting, already there is quite a backlash from mps, including from, you know, some of her own mps, who are very unhappy about that. we had a senior conservative mp saying, let me just get his words, he said... he urged mrs may to tell donald trump that in no circumstances will she be allowing britain to be dragged into facilitating torture. we have it we could from sarah wollaston, another leading conservative mp. —— a tweet. she says, you cannot lead on a global stage by advocating torture. and one mp who sits on the intelligence and security committee said, these are the people who monitor our intelligence agencies, he respects me this morning to say, this is going to cause real problems for the british intelligence agencies because we are not going to be able to incorporate with the americans if they are using torture. —— he texted me this morning. the guidance that is given to our intelligence officers, let me tell you what it says. it says, personnel will be aware of concerns about torture and cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment. there is an absolute prohibition of torture in international law. the uk government policy on such conduct is clear that mike we do not participate in or condone the use of torture. in other words, british agents cannot take advantage of american intelligence if it is being gleaned by torture, and they cannot be in the same room if torture is being carried out. that is going to presumably be something which mrs may is going to have to confront donald trump about. thank you, norman. annita is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the news. good morning, victoria. the government will publish a bill to enable it invoke article 50 and trigger a process of leaving the european union. the brexit secretary david davies says the bill will be straightforward, although opposition party was will seek to make amendments. the government was forced to draw up legislation after losing an appeal at the supreme court. the nspcc is demanding that it be made illegal for sports coaches to have sex with 16 and i7—year—olds in their care. the charity says it's already illegal for teachers and social workers to have sex with 16 and i7—year—olds in their care. it also wants to tighten the rules around background checks, with the most stringent checks becoming compulsory for all coaches working with children. a major report into the health of children in the uk has found an "alarming gap" exists between the rich and poor — with one in five young people suffering as a result of poverty. the royal college of paediatrics and child health also suggests the uk is lagging behind most western european countries when it comes to measures such as infant mortality rates and obesity. our health correspondent, dominic hughes, reports. hi, i'm sophie. and i'm an emotional wreck. anxiety, depression and a need to be listened to. these are the themes of a short play on mental health, devised by school students in liverpool. and i need help... the issues they touch on reflect those in today's report on the health of children and young people. it paints a picture of the uk struggling to match other countries and even falling behind. the evidence has been developing for some time that all is not well with our children's health. it's the first time we have really put together a proper picture across all four countries, and the news is not good. some of the issues that raise concerns over the state of child health include just 34% of babies breast fed to six months, less than half the rate in norway. 40% of children in england's most deprived areas are overweight or obese, and half of adult mental health problems start before the age 01:14. and for the drama group in liverpool, mental health issues are a real priority. mental illnesses are an illness of the brain, and they're as valid as any other illnesses to any other part of the body. just because you can't see it physically, it doesn't mean it isn't there. our production will mainly be to get rid of that stigma about mental health, and just educate the audience a bit more about mental health. the four governments of the uk are all challenged to consider the impact their policies will have on children. they've responded by restating commitments to improve children's health. gdp figures for the uk economy are to be released in the next half—hour. the figures will cover the fourth quarter of 2016. for more on this, our business presenter ben thompson joins us from the institute of engineering and technology — in sight of both parliament and the city. obviously lots of people watching these figures very closely, not least the prime minister, as she heads off to meet donald trump. what are we expecting from them? yes, you're absolutely right, those figures are watched very closely indeed by both parties, by the politicians, and also by the city of london. because it will give us an indication ofjust how quickly the uk economy is growing, and it is looking back, look back at the last quarter of last year. of course, the things the economy is contending with our issues that are facing us in the yearahead, with our issues that are facing us in the year ahead, too. that is the uncertainty surrounding the brexit folk. there is the rise in prices as much inflation is picking up again, it means we may be paying more in the shops and supermarkets. but things like petrol when we go out shopping. those prices are going up. at the same time there has been a fall in the value of the pound, which means that things we have bought from overseas will also be more expensive. that includes products made elsewhere, and also raw materials and food that is imported from elsewhere. so, given that we are expecting the economy to have grown by about half of i%, slightly down on the three months before that. many people saying that isa before that. many people saying that is a good performance given all of that uncertainty. the big question as we know is what happens in the year ahead? as we know is what happens in the year ahead ? business as we know is what happens in the year ahead? business is craving some sort of certainty. it's trying to find out what the government will do as far as brexit is concerned, when it will trigger that article 50 to begin those so—called false proceedings. that is weighing very heavily on their mind when it comes to making decisions —— divorce proceedings. when it comes to expanding the business or taking on new staff. there is uncertainty surrounding the presidency of donald trump. those figures are due out at 9:30am. the royal bank of scotland will take another financial hit for mis—selling risky mortgages in america in the run—up to the financial crisis of 2008. the bank, which is more than 70% owned by the taxpayer, could be fined an additional £3 billion by the us department ofjustice. almost half of all hospitals in england are failing to meet basic government standards for hospital food, according to data released by the department of health. the campaign for better hospital food warns the situation is "diabolical". the government says standards are improving. ant and dec won the prize for best tv presenter for the 16th year running at last night's national television awards. the bbc presenter graham norton was recognised for his services to broadcasting. len goodman lost out on the public‘s choice of best judge. other winners included mary berry for bestjudge. the bbc‘s strictly come dancing picked up the gong for best talent show. emmerdale was voted best soap, and itv‘s this morning won best live magazine programme. please welcome your host for the night! the national television awards bring out the great and the good of the television screen. a new category was introduced this year for period drama, won by call the midwife. it was up against the likes of peaky blinders and poldark. best comedy went to mrs brown's boys, and it was strictly come dancing that got the award for best talent show. best tvjudge went to a very surprised mary berry, in herfinal turn on the great british bake off. the first and foremost thing is to be fair, and encouraging and honest. despite our television viewing habits changing, the average household watches about 3.5 hours a day. nights like these are a chance to celebrate the best of what's on the box. ladies and gentlemen, the nation's heartthrob, mrgraham norton! chatshow host graham norton collected the lifetime achievement award. and ant and dec won best tv presenter for the 16th year in a row. we are very lucky to have the three shows at the moment, and long may it continue! we love it! we just want to keep making good telly. casualty! but the surprise of the night was casualty‘s win for best drama. the saturday night staple which turned 30 last year. it be some high profile and high budget smashes, including the night manager and game of thrones. i loved that air punch from mary berry! that's a summary of the latest bbc news. more at 9:30am. congratulations to all of the winners, particularly ant and dec. with regards to donald trump's comments on torture, robben facebook says, theresa may is demonstrating incompetent and a total lack of judgment by visiting the american president. your views are welcome. do get in touch with us throughout the morning — use the hashtag #victorialive. if you text, you will be charged at the standard network rate. time for sport with hugh woozencroft. and hugh, it's throwback thursday at the australian open for the williams sisters... good morning, victoria. it's a vintage year in tennis. 2015 has seen vintage year in tennis. 2015 has seen the rear burdens of that and katya and nadal, and now venus and serena williams will appear opposite each other —— the re—emergence. serena williams won her match 6—2, 6-1. it serena williams won her match 6—2, 6—1. it tookjust serena williams won her match 6—2, 6—1. it took just 50 serena williams won her match 6—2, 6—1. it tookjust 50 minutes. against the arms seeded croatian. it wasn't to be again the world number two. —— the unseeded croatian. she will be looking to win a record 23rd grand slam singles title. in the way is her old sister venus. she won back her match in three sets —— her older sister. so, a great result for her, a brilliant result for britain's andy lapthorne and his partner david whitener. they have won the final against the paralympic champions. we are guaranteed a british winner in the men's wheelchair doubles in melbourne. alfie hewett and gordon reid will face off with their respective partners. roger federer playing at the moment, just darted his semifinal against stan wawrinka, five or in the first set of that one. the league cup final, what is happening there? liverpool were in such good form, but they have reached their first efl cup final since 1979, southampton, after beating liverpool 1—0 at anfield last night, and they were one goal up last night, and they were one goal up from the first leg as well. shane long sealed their place. they will face the whole city by manchester united. —— hull. face the whole city by manchester united. -- hull. what about the reaction to usain bolt having one of his medals being taken away because ofa his medals being taken away because of a team—mate? his medals being taken away because of a team-mate? he will not be smiling today. and he will have to get back one of his olympic gold medals after his team—mate nesta carter was disqualified over a doping incident at beijing. jamaica have been stripped of the gold in the four by 100 metres. he can no longer claim to hold the famous triple triple. he says he will appeal to the court of arbitration for sport. and some very good news for sport. and some very good news for british skiing fans, something we don't say often. milli night and her guide won downhill gold on the opening day of the world para alpine championships in italy. her guide shouts instructions from in front of her. he helped her to see the racing line as well. she has won 11 medals, seven of them gold, ina great 12 won 11 medals, seven of them gold, in a great 12 months. we will have more headlines that have passed. cnn. it's nearly ten years since british student meredith kercher was killed while studying in italy, in what became — and has remained — one of the most notorious murder cases in the world. this morning, we can speak exclusively to raffaele sollecito, who together with meredith's roommate amanda knox, was wrongly convicted and imprisoned for the crime. he says the ordeal has scarred his life. and with legal bills that topped £1 million, he's now pushing for compensation from the italian government. translation: both the defendants fora, b, cand d are acquitted because they have not committed the crime. i think we are still on the journey to the truth. it may be the fact that we don't ever really know what happened that night. i'm a normal guy who passed through a nightmare. now i'm different, because of the nightmare i passed through. but i'm innocent. and raffaele sollecito is here. good morning to you. good morning. tell us how your life has been changed by what you experienced.” ama changed by what you experienced.” am a kind of normal person. it is a weird kind of celebrity which older people look at, especially in italy, but it is not a good thing, because of course, i bore a burden of an image that is not who i really am. that image is what, do you think?m depends who is looking at me. in italy, they are split between people who think that i am innocent and people who think that i am guilty. it depends on what they have as a background in their mind and they think about me something different on one side or another. those people who think you are guilty, do you believe you will ever be able to change their minds, or have you accepted that? each time i spoke with them, each time any person meets me and talks to me, they realise that what the media said mears totally —— said about me is totally different from what i am, so they changed their mind each time, but as you may understand, it is not possible to reach all the people involved in this case. with the news, you can reach 5 million people. i can know a few hundred of them. can you give our audience an insight into what it is like to be wrongly jailed for insight into what it is like to be wronglyjailed for a crime that you had nothing to do with? it's really a nightmare, and it affects all of your life. it changes it. you have to face, you have to struggle for anything that you do. you have attention for everything that you do. even a tiny false step, it's made like a huge thing. like what? what false step of you made that has been blown up? at the beginning, you can imagine that i was bringing a pocket knife in myjeans since i was 13 years old. the police department thought that it was the murder knife, even if it wasjust thought that it was the murder knife, even if it was just a collection article. even this, or the fact that i didn't ask for a lawyer during the interrogations, or even my misinterpretation of the seriousness of the case. anything, really. later, each thing i said, each thing i looked at the case with amanda, whatever i did was taken as a fault, a big fall. anything that i look at was a clue of my guilt, so it is really tragic. and do you feel under scrutiny now, as you try to rebuild your life, still? yes, because i run my home business. i have an application to commemorate people who have been lost, for relatives who have passed away, and i got relatives who have passed away, and igota relatives who have passed away, and i got a lot of criticism on that. also, anything like whatever i decided to do, comments on other cases on television, they ask me to be someone with an opinion because of what i passed through. i got a lot of criticism as well, so it is kind of anything i do has to be commented by anyone in a good way or ina bad commented by anyone in a good way or in a bad way. it depends on what they really think about me. have you accepted that you will probably for ever be associated with the death of meredith kercher?” ever be associated with the death of meredith kercher? i hope it will not be in this way for the rest of my life. of course, it's a big part, it's a parenthesis inside it's a really important case, and in the history of judgments, it really important case, and in the history ofjudgments, it will be an imprint for ever, but i don't think that my life is bounded by this, because it is over. there has to be an end of it. of course, in the trials, this is the end. but in the people's mind, it has to be digestive. how have you tried to rebuild your life? yeah, i'm trying still. i'm struggling. the greatest obstacle, i find, still. i'm struggling. the greatest obstacle, ifind, along my still. i'm struggling. the greatest obstacle, i find, along my path is prejudice by people whom i don't know. this is something that i think will, step—by—step, clear up. it takes time and force and you have to have the will to do that. i cannot hide and close inside myself, because it can be worse.” hide and close inside myself, because it can be worse. i was going to ask, have you ever considered moving from italy? lily, that is where yourfamily, moving from italy? lily, that is where your family, but has that been a consideration? not so, because i have all my family, and i run a business there. i have not considered. they did something really terrible to me... they? the prosecution. there was nothing wrong idid, so prosecution. there was nothing wrong i did, so there is no real reason to leave my country because of something that i didn't do. you believe that you and amanda knox are victims — what do you mean by that? imean victims — what do you mean by that? i mean that we were appointed by the prosecution since the beginning without any real clue. they needed to close the case as soon as possible because there was the greatest attention ever from all over the world on a murder case, so they needed the guilty people soon. irememberthe they needed the guilty people soon. i remember the police department of perugia is making a press conference, an international press conference, an international press conference, saying that amanda knox and raffaele sollecito are guilty, and raffaele sollecito are guilty, and meredith kercher was murdered inside and orgies gone wrong. —— an org—— inside and orgies gone wrong. —— an or g —— orgy gone wrong. they did not want to go back and look at clues and real facts at the murder scene to follow the right theory. and that is what you mean by saying you are rape victim. how do you think of meredith kercher‘s family? i think about them, and i am really sad that they still stick about the prosecution theory, because it is completely wrong. they missed the case. they say they still have questions and that they may never know the truth. that is what the prosecution says today. it is exactly the same thing. i am sad they repeat what the prosecution says, because the real facts about this murder, i have seen the documents also you can read them and see that the reality of this case is completely different from what the prosecution wanted to make people believe. what is the nature of your friendship or otherwise with amanda knox now? we are friends. and, yeah, very fa st knox now? we are friends. and, yeah, very fast friends. sometimes we talk, but not so often. right. do you ever talk about the past? no. there is no reason to do that. actually we did it for five days. it is completely meaningless to talk about it. but
