himself was quite awkward for him as well, jake. >> fred pleitgen thanks so much and jen psaki, let me start with you, former communications director for the obama white house. a lot of issues that president has with germany and angela merkel in terms of not paying enough on defense, according to nato obligations and in accordance to the trade issues. these are issues president trump shares with president obama and previous president. his supporters might say, hey, at least he's bringing it out in the open. president obama didn't get results. >> president obama did get results n.2014 germany and a number of european countries pledged to contribute 2% of their gdp by 2024. that's in process. right now germany is paying for about 15% of nato's operating budget. the united states pays for 22%. should shedo more, yes, and they have pledged to do more over the next ten years but issue here is that german leaders, long been one of our strongest partners in europe, through obama and through bush, are questioning whether the united states is a strong ally anymore and whether the united states

for that incredible reporting. stick around. i want to bring in my penal. jen psaki, former communications director for the obama white house and would bein wright from are the woodrow wilson center and mike rog remembers, former republican chairman of the house intelligence committee. what are you hearing from syrians in the wake of not only this attack but the u.s. strike agence the assad regime in response, clarissa? >> well, jake, i think for people in opposition-held areas there was a moment of optimism or excitement even when president trump took the decision to strike the air base which is where the air strike was launched from. there are two questions. what the does this mean for the future? what is the syria policy going to look like in a more long-term way in the u.s. may have shown it has some leverage now at the negotiating table, but what does it actually go ahead and do with the leverage in the second question that i hear over and over again from syrians is, okay, why is it okay to kill us by the thousands with chemical weapons or -- rather, why is it not okay