. david: well, and the market does play into everything that we do, sabrina, but sometimes has a perverse effect when the government gets involved. the government has been creating perverse incentives, incentivizing folks to do the wrong thing. >> that's right, david. so often we wonder how these situations happened. and government got into the business of x. and in this case they got into the business of flood insurance and as a result they sort of replaced market rates with these artificially low rates which encourages, i don't want to say bad behavior, but riskier behavior. you may have a beautiful view if you live on the coast of florida, but you're at greater risk and that often comes with a higher price tag and i think that's what unfortunately a lot of people don't realize how we got to this point. david: john, i know you love to be a purist about economic policy, but you have to be a realist, in this environment it might be tough to pull off, right? >> i think that rich and steve and everyone is right that you're not going to get this right now, but rich is absolutely rig

nation. david: that's an optimistic view. sabrina, i have a feeling that all of this talk about isolation is from people that didn't look at the whole speech. while the president said put america first, he was also talking about american values and about what america has done to help the rest of the world. let's just play another little clip from his speech. go ahead. >> today, if we do not invest ourselves, our hearts and our minds in our nations, if we will not build strong families, safe communities and healthy so seats for-- societities for ourselves, no one can do it for us. david: it's less about isolationism and more about reliance. right? >> sort of, david. the speech was not as bad as portrayed. it was all over the place. there's a difference between rhetoric and policy. and the policy is ones you would have heard from any republican and democrat about humanitarian aid and all of that was sensible. sometimes the challenge is he doesn't quite think through what he's saying. yes, i think a president should put america first, but sometimes putting america first means worki

and my property taxes are going up again. david: and sabrina, your money inside the beltway, d.c., you get local and federal money going to the stadiums. and we also get the traffic associated with it. we get a double whammy. the nfl is worth $14 billion and our team here the redskins is worth $3 billion. it's number eight on forbes top 50 list of sports teams. the idea that we would be giving federal taxpayers subsidies is the idea of pouring gravy on the thanksgiving table. it's horrifying to me. david: and, mike, you went through a litany of all the money that the nfl could lose as a result from advertising, and from a whole lot of things if the protests go on. thursday night, remind viewers, thursday night they linked arms, but they stood during the national anthem. do you think the nfl's getting the message? >> i do. and in fact, so are the other leagues, david. the commissioner of the nba came out this past week and said, nba players will be required to stand during the national anthem. don't think that nba or the other sports aren't watching what's going on in the nfl. dav

referring to kim jong-un as rocket man. let's bring in molly hooper and sabrina sadiki. big welcome to you both. sabrina, i want to get here. i want to get right to the tweet. we should point out that the re readout of his call does not mention rocket man. how might president moon be reacting when he hears of this tweet? >> i think the fact of the matter is with respect to north korea, trump has shown himself to be similarly belicose in his rhetoric and erratic in his behavior that have drawn parallels to kim jong-un himself. so the question is a lot of people are asking does president trump's behavior help to de-escalate the situation or is he only escalating it further? the administration is of course understoring that they still want to look for a diplomatic resolution, but i don't think the president himself has really shoni serious desire to sit down and have negotiations. he seems to instead be firing off on twitter and in turn raising concerns, i think, among allies overseas who are of course counting on u.s. leadership and not just governing in 140 characters or less? >> molly, wha

. >>> let's bring in sabrina and molly hooper. ladies, welcome. the president's visit to texas and louisiana yesterday, can something be perceived as a political win under these awful circumstances given it was take two for the president but he was roundly perceived as being a lot warmer an empathetic than the first go around. >> yes i think some the criticism he faced from the visit earlier in the week is he didn't get anywhere near the actual storm and its impact. he didn't meet with any of the victims and was lacking empathy, is the operating word that people used. so it's clear that the white house received that message. they made a more concerted effort to have him meet with the victims and do what most presidents do when facing disasters of this magnitude, to provide a source of comfort to those who have been affected by the storm. the real challenge, though, begins now. and he's requested an additional -- initial, i should say, emergency supplemental from congress to deal with the devastation caused by harvey. the when congress returns is he going to make a forceful case and put aside