. >> turning to the african union. this is interesting. she was for 25 years a medical doctor in tennessee in a town near where bev grew up. both her daughters are grad -- one graduated from yale medical school and the other is in yale medical school. pretty impressive. what drove you to take on this position that you have now? >> well, i was minding my own business. actually, in bed it was exactly 3:02 in the morning when my phone rang. and it was then chairman of the african union chairman zuma, informing me that my predecessor had turned in her resignation and that she was going to be running for president of tanzania. that she couldn't think of anyone better than myself to take on that role. i couldn't see myself as an ambassador. what do you think i know? i'm a medical doctor. and she reminded me that she herself is a pediatrician. that i should take some time and think about it. i thought she was kidding. about a week later she called me again. slowly i began to realize that she was really serious. so we joke about it. we say she cou

the ambassador of the african union. our moderator is nina easton, also the chair of fortune's most powerful women international summit and the co-chair of the fortune global forum. thank you all again for joining us. over to you, nina. >> thank you. a round of applause for all of these women, first of all. [ applause ] >> it is truly an awesome and entim dating experience to be around all these amazing women. we're first going to go down and talk to each of them a little bit about themselves and their countries and then we'll talk about some overarching geopolitical themes. i really want to include you. so once we do two rounds, we are going to take questions from the audience. go ahead and have them ready. there's cards. we will pick them up. and we will read off the questions to our participants. so thank you. i'm first going to turn to my left. from sweden, ambassador olaf's daughter. it's really interesting that sweden has what it overtly calls a feminist foreign policy. >> we do. >> how is that going and what is it

>> yeah, i think the african union requires it's multi specialty approach. i think in some cases general surgery's definitely needed. in some cases we need orthopedic surgeons to break some bones. in some cases we need neurosurgeons to drill into the brain. and so, and occasionally, maybe often enough we need psychiatrists. so, yes, we do. >> and i want to hear more about that in the next round of questioning. but let's move on to finland, ambassador kirsti kauppi. you've always been known, finland's always been known as a country pretty good on the gender equality level but what's fascinating is this new level that just came out that actually in your country men spend more time with their kids than women, by eight minutes, but still. do you think that's cultural? how much is cultural and how much is policy driven? >> i think it is both. and culture obviously has some impact on policies and policies have an impact on culture. so it is both. i think early on in the history of my nation the -- by the way, the nation is 100 years old as an independent country l