. >> turning to the african union. this is interesting. she was for 25 years a medical doctor in tennessee in a town near where bev grew up. both her daughters are grad -- one graduated from yale medical school and the other is in yale medical school. pretty impressive. what drove you to take on this position that you have now? >> well, i was minding my own business. actually, in bed it was exactly 3:02 in the morning when my phone rang. and it was then chairman of the african union chairman zuma, informing me that my predecessor had turned in her resignation and that she was going to be running for president of tanzania. that she couldn't think of anyone better than myself to take on that role. i couldn't see myself as an ambassador. what do you think i know? i'm a medical doctor. and she reminded me that she herself is a pediatrician. that i should take some time and think about it. i thought she was kidding. about a week later she called me again. slowly i began to realize that she was really serious. so we joke about it. we say she cou

i think the african union requir requires, it's a specialty approach. i think in some cases, general surgery is definitely needed. in some cases, we need orthopedic surgeons to break some bones. in some cases, we need neurosurgeons to drill into the brain. and so -- and occasionally, maybe often enough, actually, we need psychiatrists so yes, we do. >> i want to hear more about that in the next round of questioning. but let's move on to finland. ambassador, finland has always been known as a country with pretty good to gender equality level, but what's fascinating is this new number that just came out that actually, in your country, men spend more time with their kids than women. by eight minutes, but still. do you think that's cultural? how much is cultural and how much is policy-driven? >> i think it is both. culture obviously has an impact on policies, and policies have an impact on culture. so it is both. i think early on in the history of my nation, by the way, the nation is 100 years old as an independent country last year we celebrated our centen

the ambassador of the african union. our moderator is nina easton, also the chair of fortune's most powerful women international summit and the co-chair of the fortune global forum. thank you all again for joining us. over to you, nina. >> thank you. a round of applause for all of these women, first of all. [ applause ] >> it is truly an awesome and entim dating experience to be around all these amazing women. we're first going to go down and talk to each of them a little bit about themselves and their countries and then we'll talk about some overarching geopolitical themes. i really want to include you. so once we do two rounds, we are going to take questions from the audience. go ahead and have them ready. there's cards. we will pick them up. and we will read off the questions to our participants. so thank you. i'm first going to turn to my left. from sweden, ambassador olaf's daughter. it's really interesting that sweden has what it overtly calls a feminist foreign policy. >> we do. >> how is that going and what is it