in libya there was. if which intervened we could stop gaddafi from regaining control of this country. at the time we understood there was no guarantee that that would mean he would be driven from power immediately, but we could at least stop him from doing that. it was a humanitarian crisis that our actions could prevent. i think it made sense and i think the president has clearly articulated that. for congress to pass a resolution saying they have no earthly idea what the president is dng in libya simply means they have not been paying attention for the last couple of months. it's been made clear. i think it's appropriate that we ask the president to regularly keep in touch with us, let us know where the mission is going. i supported the resolution that said no ground troops in libya. i think that's a step too far. i don't think that's something that would be accomplished militarily. i think that's appropriate. the part of the resolution that i oppose is that the president has made no national security

have to mediate in libya they sent an envoy and as mikhail margelov arrived intensified bombing of libya begad why is that. there's no link between the two events we appreciate all attempts to find a political solution to the crisis in libya because obviously there is no military solution only we need a political process having said that i still think that it's a strong military pressure under good after regime will facilitate a fruitful political process mr rangel of yesterday in fact stated and you just mentioning that that that the military conflict doesn't have to be there means that it could be resolved peacefully he's stating that he believes that both the rebels and the regime forces are ready to negotiate that they both play their war is not the way out of this conflict so why are you still gone in libya with this information coming from the russian envoy that both sides are are ready to talk. we are continuing our regime because we still see gadhafi regime attacking each own population and each absolutely outrageous and. has mandated an operation to protect civilians and we will

military operations in libya. the rule also provides the minority with two separate motions to recommit with or without instructions. mr. speaker, it was in this week in 1788, june 21 of 1788 that the united states ratified its constitution. that constitution that still serves us so well today. in that constitution our framers made clear that the power of the purse belongs here and here alone. here in the people's house. here on capitol hill. on that constitution made clear that the power to declare war arrive here and here alone. on june 3 of this year, by a vote of 268-145, the house of representatives passed a resolution asking the president to make clear what his intentions are in libya. asking the president to come and consult with congress, to get congress' permission to seek our authority to prosecute those hostilities in libya. we received some information from the white house since then. we have gotten a letter from the white house since then. we even have classified documents since then, but what we have

for these reasons we are in libya. what do you say to critics who aren't convinced that nato is and goal is to protect civilians and that in fact is a regime change. we have been very open about our military objectives. to compete in attacks against civilians withdrawal of gadhafi forces and humanitarian access these are all military objectives and we will continue until they are met. in parallel there is a political track if you find the international community. recently a group including the russian president called on. to leave power. and. these two tracks are separate a military track and a political track but having said that i think it's hard to imagine a complete end church actually gained civilians in libya as long as gadhafi remains in power i'd like to move on to missile defense in europe if i may defense minister sort of called also said yesterday that he's good largely ignored by you in your plans for a.m.d. over europe of course you wouldn't accept that but the facts they certainly at this stage speak for

military mission in libya. the administration has yet to present congress and the american people with a clear strategic objective for our involvement in libya. furthermore, to date we have not been informed of a specific end goal under which the military operations would cease. this threatens the effectiveness of our mission and could soon create an unjustifiable strain on our military. while they remain engaged in two other theaters of operation critical to our national security interest. mr. speaker, i urge my colleagues to join me in support of this bill, and how much time do i have left? the speaker pro tempore: one minute remains. mr. mckeon: how much do i have left? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has one minute remaining. mr. mckeon: i'd be happy to yield. mr. dicks: wouldn't you feel better if we could add as the fifth item in this list of things suppression of enemy air defenses? the reason i say that is i think we're going to have a difficult time doing any of these other missions unless we ha

say that the mood has changed significantly after the protracted cluster messed up at a politely and libya and bahrain and syria and yemen. i think people are just simply more grounded in reality now about the kind of cost it's going to take and time and blood to see this transformation through but i still think that the general outlook is still positive for me the story in syria is not so much the fact that there is this protracted brutality taking place as much as it is that people are still taking to the streets despite of it that far and so i think the cat is out of the bag people have lost their clear this is the moment for the middle east to change and i don't think that anything can stop it i think we're different regimes will be able to employ different tactics to delay that transformation they can use brutality they can use bribes they can use. exploits ethnic fears and what have you and things of that sort and blame foreign agents and that will buy them some time in the meantime but i think they will not be able to stop the transformation generally speaking anybody who expected t

we have no business in libya. even the administration has said it's not a national security interest of the united states to be in libya. so why are we there? we are there because we don't like omar gaddafi. there are a lot of bad guys in the world and if we start picking them off one at a time we'll be at war with most of the world. because most of the world is led by rogue dictators or bad guys. we have no business being in libya. we have no business justifying this war on the house floor. it is congress' responsibility to defund any further action in libya. and that is what we should do. it's unfortunate we don't have that up or down vote. i wish we could vote up or down today on that issue and let the house decide if we should be at war in libya. $700 million has already been spent in the war in libya. it's hard to figure out where that money came from. i get different answers from different people about where the president got that money. but maybe we should spend that $700 million in the united states buildi

intervention in libya would have been solved. surely the uprising the took place was in internal affair an internal matter. how would that have been resolved if we let it run i'm not actually in favor of the intervention in libya i think it produces a very strange paradox i'm not don't really understand why it's all right to go and knock off god after you're not all right to go and knock off. the whole it seems to me that military intervention of that sort is not a good idea i wasn't for a drive about the way in serbia i don't think these things produce anything except damage rage frustration they don't need to democracy they can't beat the market for instance the course of a situation is on results and i'm sure the libyan situation is going to be under oath for a long time to come it may be that there's a siren a. tripolitania split to libya's or something that's all but it has an improvement i see it all the borders are there for some reason. what are we doing about syria. and why are we intervening in libya and on all through

reporting from western libya. criminals and barbarians that's how colonel gadhafi called nato states following a recent strike that killed civilians the alliance has said that it regrets the deaths but investigative journalist michelle collins who only returned from the war torn country just a few days ago told us here at r.t. that innocent lives mean nothing to the coalition that's only in libya for financial gains they killed mall civilians that the losses from the initials problems there feels more civilians than lives or bombings so the real idea is not protect civilians the rio de to achieve the economical strategy called interest off there of the west us in europe i mean the oil i mean the financial reserves of libya i remind that the us is a bankrupt country and also all preventing that gaddafi would be a sort of turner used to do i.m.f. some buying for african development your idea is to make the public international opinion accept the idea that nato is a couple of the world of that that nato has the right

reporting from western libya. well i mean that libyan alito colonel gadhafi accuses name so of murder after a recent strike killed civilians investigative journalist of michelle collins who was in libya just a few days ago believes the actions of the alliance are only motivated by money. killed more civilians that's the losses from the initials problems there feels more civilians the little bombings so the real id is not protect civilians. he's to achieve the economical strategical interest off there of the west us in europe i mean the oil i mean the financial reserves of libya i remind the us see he's a buying corrupt country and also are preventing that caffie would be a sort of alternative to the i.m.f. some buying for african development the whole idea is to make the public international opinion accept the idea that nato is a cut of the world or that that nato has the right to make wars where they want to revisit the people in hospitals and we saw victims and indeed the civilian population is attacked that mus

libya was best which means god. are khadafi and libya is all we need so these are these are these this is what spoken to people on the street these were not shills paid by the government these were people you would just me in various places in tripoli but despite that support you so forget that they did you actually sense that there is anybody there who's got the wherewithal the in fact equipped to take charge of libya off the decades of gadhafi rule in other words occasional position with a leader that did you get any sense of that. i got the impression that the rebel movement is very disjointed there is absolutely salafi. veterans of afghanistan iraq people released from guantanamo who are now active in eastern libya very imposing. sharia law stream forms women having aware of the burka when they leave their home their homes there's also been a huge loss of money the libyan central bank and guys he was looted by the rebels of nine hundred million in libya and dean are as cash and five hundred point five million an

now it's able to take a look at how big they were all oil had to play and leading up to the war in libya will analyze the g.o.p. presidential debate from last night and we'll talk to an author who claims that your favorite t.v. shows are all being used by hollywood liberals to shape america in their own leftist image scary i know but first let's take a look at what the mainstream media has been devoting their time to instead of covering the real stories. you know it's not like there's a whole lot going on in this country to be worried about right now right into recessions taking a double dip we have over nine percent unemployment and that's just the official number that doesn't include all of those discouraged and underemployed workers housing prices continue to fought millions of americans have lost their homes the middle class is disappearing the top one percent of the nation holds forty percent of the wealth we're fighting three wars one of which has now become the longest in american history and we also have to shadow wars going on and thousands of americans have lost their lives in

libya could be another name on the list of alleged victims of the giant u.s. investment bank goldman sachs that bank is currently being investigated by the american government for its part in the two thousand and eight financial crisis it supposedly lost a one billion dollars investment made by three years ago but is marina portnoy reports from new york the bankers are hardly consent. long before the u.s. led airstrikes against libya's moammar gadhafi the dictator and one of america's most profitable banks were firm financial friends in two thousand and eight according to the wall street journal goldman sachs offered khadafi the chance of becoming a huge shareholder only after losing ninety eight percent of libya's one point three billion dollars sovereign wealth fund in just a few months they have lost a staggering percentage i don't know how you'll lose ninety eight percent or something was that on options on european banks and energy companies who stocks plunged shortly thereafter but in any case clearly they saw a goldmine in khadafi when the fund controll

we have no intention to put troops on the ground in libya what if gadhafi doesn't back down. well i do believe that the combination of a strong military pressure and a reinforced political pressure will eventually lead to the collapse of the regime it may happen tomorrow it may take some weeks but we will stay committed on until we have fulfilled three very clear military objectives firstly a complete end to all attacks against civilians secondly withdrawal of gadhafi military forces and paramilitary forces to their parents and certainly. immediate and unhindered humanitarian access to people in need so we will continue our until these objectives are met talk of the post-war libya seems premature doesn't it given william hague and him seeing stating that nato as he sees it will be there until after christmas this of course all despite a ninety day deadline when do you think you'll leave the libyan people at peace. well i'm not going to guess about any time frame what i can say is that we are prepared to stay committed as long as it takes to fully implement the u.n. mandate an

the public becoming more and more skeptical about libya the government presented libya as a humanitarian exercise on behalf of the united nations to enforce a no fly zone that no fly zone involves thousands five thousand and more bombing sorties over libya special forces apparently are operating in libya the foreign secretary went to benghazi last week and i asked him a straight question in parliament on tuesday or said when he finally admits that we are intervening on behalf of the opposition in libya and that this is an attempt at regime change he still persists with this narrative that this is some kind of u.n. humanitarian operation the public are becoming increasingly skeptical about this new increasingly nervous we're involved for oil and i think we should not be involved in involved for either of those things and i think what the region needs is an understanding of peace but an understanding of the degree of poverty and oppression so many people have for so long they're not looking for western intervention they're looking for their own salvation jeremy corbyn live in london thank

participation in the war in libya and it's going to be interest. now to see if there's any serious response from the white fellas for the last few just we'll respond what sort of reaction. well there could be a number of things there could be a statement saying i'm aware now that the congress is not in favor of this does not recognize it as legitimate that means i have to begin the process of withdrawing u.s. support for the nato operation that would be the best situation i don't think that that's very likely what we've seen in the last days regarding afghanistan of course in a similar situation without the congressional aspect but where public opinion has turned decisively against the war in afghanistan it's now sixty four percent of the american people say that the war is not worth fighting and yet when president obama spoke the other night he did somehow reflect that new reality by acknowledging that the debate now the discussion now is over how many troops to withdraw and how fast to withdraw them rather than how many new troops to send in how

military mission in libya. the administration has yet to present congress and the american people with a clear strategic objective for our involvement in libya. furthermore, to date we have not been informed of a specific end goal under which the military operations would cease. this teatens the effectiveness of our mission and could soon create an unjustifiable strain on our military. while they remain engaged in two other theaters of operation critical to our national security interest. mr. speaker, i urge my colleagues to join me in support of this bill, and how much time do i have left? the speaker pro tempore: one minute remains. mr. mckeon: how much do i have left? the speaker pro tempore: the geleman has one minute remaining. mr. mckeon: i'd be happy to yield. mr. dicks: wouldn't you feel better if we could add as the fifth item in this list of things suppression of enemy air defenses? the reason i say that is i think we're going to have a difficult time doing any of these other missions unless we have s

they're performing magnificently in libya. if anything, i would like to speed up the implementation of the strategic defense review because so many -- so much of the new equipment we're looking to have in terms of drones and things like that it would be more helpful to have them right now. so far from being the wrong strategic posture and it's right and it's good we're putting them in place. >> mr. speaker, i think it will come as news as the wider defense and security community that there's been a review of the original strategic defense and security review. and if there indeed has been a review since the arab spring took place, then why doesn't the prime minister publish the results of that review? let's have a consultation with the experts who know about these issues. now, let me just answe the prime minister finally -- let me say this to him in all sincerity. [laughter] >> when our military chief -- when our military chief raised concerns and raised legitimate concerns about the conduct of our operations, surely, it's not

in libya so what we are saying is. that nato is mr activity need to strike actually not in cars and people to start talking. it is actually driving them away from that. area thanks very much indeed for that live update that the reflection in the libyan capital tripoli while somewhere in the world that is working harmoniously i'm pleased to say and we'll take you there just a few minutes from now it's hard to separate international crews come together to fend off the pros. we tell you how they do it. coming your way a little later another case of a russian that the u.s. accuses of being an international arms dealer will be heard in a new york court on thursday fit to boots been awaiting trial since his arrest over three years ago in thailand as it is more important reports his detention raises many questions over the legality of the case. he is the russian citizen america fought relentlessly to adopt victor boot was secretly and swiftly extradited to the u.s. seven months ago and this may be where he stays indefinitely

mitary mission in libya. the administration has yet to present congress and the american people with a clear strategic objective for our involvement in libya. furthermore, to date we have not been informed of a specific end goal under which the military operations would cease. this threatens the effectiveness of our mission and could soon create an unstifiable strain on our military. while they remain engaged in two other theaters of operation critical to our national security interest. mr. speaker, i urge my colleagues to join me in support of this bill, and how much time do i have left? the speaker pro tempore: one minute remains. mr. mckeon: how much do i have left? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has one minute remaining. mr. mckeon: i'd be happy to yield. mr. dicks: wouldn't you feel better if we could add as the fifth item in this list of things suppression of enemy air defenses? the reason i say that is i think we're going to hava difficult time doing any of these other missions unless we have s

on libya germany chose to withhold its support for military action in libya the u.n. security council siding with russia and china here despite being under a lot of pressure from the u.s. the u.k. and france on afghanistan germany has supported the war there but now analysts say its contribution is unlikely to survive even the next election cycle but of course the two leaders were rather evasive aggressing the difference is choosing mainly general rhetoric you know about coordinating efforts and so long but analysts say the rift between washington and burlington is not just on wars but on other policies as well on the economy germany has a completely different approach they have high taxes better welfare at prater applause they produce more they export more while the u.s. is head over heels in death and is running a trade deficit of health a trillion dollars and it's interesting during that press conference president obama showed the u.s. expects germany to get behind a plan of a third a lot of the massive greek debt to in order to stabilize the euro was very polite i

sure is that so much given to the huge musician appearing on the front is it all about libya now with understanding the ongoing changes often follow the leader at least what makes yemen in syria different from what's going on each. player you're watching r.t. the headlines from. nato airstrikes once again rocker libyan capital calling the largest pressure on its members to intensify the bombing campaign meanwhile grief over civilian deaths and under a new orleans eventually continues to grow in the ground. the army will rush into summits is entering its second day of school has a plan on impressionable minds and then tasteless how the french system and russia successions the world trade organization are not several topics nomics and talks. under fresh visual world news i'm an american anyway the president also russian radio and choose to u.s. space stations in washington and new york the circumstance where the ball crossed the line from moscow to continue as. well as the un security council models of british french resolution of a serious crackdown on anti-government protesters people

looking back at the week's top stories here on r t dozens killed in libya's capital as nato embarks on its most intense bombing raids yet while there is heavy fighting as rebels renew attacks in the oil port city of zawiyah in syria tension is rising as the government continues a severe crackdown on the opposition security forces have now retaken the northern city of jews or else who are reportedly following heavy fighting. in greece anger at the introduction of a new wave of austerity measures spilled onto the streets the new cuts are to secure a second stage of the e.u. bailout but problems remain as germany and the central bank of europe argue over how to get private investors on board. a u.s. navy ship in the black sea sparks outrage from moscow and claims it's a prelude to the planned nato missile defense shield for europe the u.s.s. monterey docked in odessa ahead of joint military exercises in the area. up next our interview with nato secretary general anders fogh rasmussen in an interview he gave this week to artie's a nice and now way he defended the alliance actions in libya

well what does bill gary think about your participation in the libya and the libya operation and what's the final go out thinking that you want to do you actually see the final go break yes i do and i think first of all it to start by saying. i think it's very unfortunate the way that colonel gadhafi responded to the legitimate concerns of the legitimate demands that his his people that for more democracy informal participation government for more openness the right way to respond to such demands structure to address the real concerns that people have not to take the tanks into the streets not to call your citizens rats and not to attack them and this is what happened particularly in benghazi and if it hadn't been for the very quick and very rapid reaction of some countries members of nato the united nations with the u.n. security council resolution and with a nato operation we would have seen a massacre of one proportions extent so i think that the operation in libya is right it is legitimate because it's based on the. u.n. security council resolution and it is just because it protects

bank allegedly loses a billion dollar investment by libya putting the financial woes of the american and libyan people in the same boat. we think what's happening is a shift towards the ground operations russia's foreign minister slams nato's deployment of helicopters after they hit their first targets in libya. a huge fire which destroyed an ammunition dump in central russia has been put out sleeping over eighty people injured. and smartphones to secure phones as a moscow technology firm claims it can retrieve personal data from any device for some. international news and comment live from our studios here in central moscow this is r.t. libya could be another name on the list of alleged victims of the joint us investment bank goldman sachs the bank is currently being investigated by the american government for its part in the two thousand and eight financial crisis it supposedly lost a one billion dollar investment made by tripoli three years ago i was in the report now reports from new york the bankers are hardly concerned. long before the u.s. led airstrikes against libya's moamma

says the rebels' official political body set up after the revolution in libya started in the mid february its members are recognized by many countries throughout the world as the only legitimate representatives of libya there is no other or being you and then you there will be in your. new west be was them where you are again is that they talk about freedom and democracy there is no freedom or democracy they just want to bury the refugees here say they now finally feel safe but it's not that safe from the side of the frontline either. these people have gathered in the west of tripoli to bury those killed in airstrike coded to leave and government officials a bomb landed on the private compound and flattened it killing fifteen people including three kids we have been calling for peace and negotiation for months and no one wants to listen to us and now we have to pay a very heavy price of. casualties civilian casualties and also military casualties i think the time has come for the world to understand that this conflict has to come to an end immediately which is very unlikely to happen any

from moscow with marina joshua welcome to the program the growing number of civilian casualties in libya raises serious misgivings about nato intervention even among supporters of a campaign that's not only nato bombs that pose a threat to leave the rebel stand accused of committing atrocities against their own people. has a story. this family hasn't had the war quiet and peaceful like this one for months they've escaped from the libyan rebel stronghold of benghazi to hide in this refugee camp in the west of the country after a life in their native town became a nightmare. it's not safe there anymore it's become dangerous and it's not only because of explosions and gunshots one day people from the government and been you call the rebels we call them terrorists came to me and told me we have to arrest your daughter because we know that she supports gadhafi. these kate has been long and hard for they were in the family and i remember. that it was i had to hide for some time from them as they've been searching for me and then we knew there was a bus coming from gaza to tennessee and the las

military operations in libya. the president declined to seek congressional operation before engaging in hostilities. he is carrying out for more than three months without seeking your receiving congressional authorization this is at odds with the constitution and with the president's own pronouncements on war powers. for example, in december 2007, he responded to a boston globe question by saying, "the president does not have power under the constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping it an actual or imminent threat to the nation." before return to constitutional and legal issues, i believe it is important to make a more fundamental point. even if one believes the president somehow have the legal authority to initiate and continue the military operations in libya, it does not mean that going to war without congress was either wise or helpful to the operation. the vast majority of members of congress, constitutional scholars, and military authorities would

military involvement have ongoing action in libya do you think. from his circle experiences specially the recent ones in iraq and afghanistan we can predict that it's really going to have very little effect to washington is much more jittery when it comes to war these days thanks to their experiences in the middle east but also seemed to in the past the congress have. taken on such initiatives and questioned the wisdom of. previous presidents did very little really start what is taking place and i don't think libya is going to be the exception i mean you were there in the usa i was talking to a commentator in the u.s. not long ago and he was saying about a could be impeach this is that really likely. no not truly i mean we've seen worse things happening you know iraq is the prime example i mean the fact the whole war was under the rug of of weapons of mass destructions and all of that and we discovered that it was a ploy it was largely an intelligence glory and it was done for political reasons and for a really pre-decided military edge and then p

in libya there was. if which intervened we could stop gaddafi from regaining control of this country. at the time we understood there was no guarantee that that would mean he would be driven from power immediately, but we could at least stop him from doing that. it was a humanitarian crisis that our actions could prevent. i think it made sense and i think the president has clearly articulated that. for congress to pass a resolution saying they have no earthly idea what the president is doing in libya simply means they have not been paying attention for the last couple of months. it's been made clear. i think it's appropriate that we ask the president to regularly keep in touch with us, let us know where the mission is going. i supported the resolution that said no ground troops in libya. i think that's a step too far. i don't think that's something that would be accomplished militarily. i think that's appropriate. the part of the resolution that i oppose is that the president has made no national securit

north asked to mediate in libya well i think the u.n. is playing exactly the role that it should play and leave the un special envoy is you know frequently in tripoli and girls he is working with the people of libya but also for the international partners our role has been very much to support him and to work with the african union with the arab league with the organization islamic conference and with our partners like russia and turkey to think about how we move forward and conflict and start to think about the country of the future on a visit of in gaza in may you said that you had not people who would be leading into the future what gives you the grounds of saying that what i said was that people who clearly had at their heart the future of libya people who were thinking about the kind of work that needs to be done reconstruction getting the economy moving again the support they're going to be on board of management reform of the police. to be people who will be part of that big dialogue that used to take place what the new government

it's not clear who exactly is here from libya, if at all, at the moment. also in recent days, libyan rebels had suggested some interest in attending the meeting, but it doesn't seem to be that they're hereñ in even a unofficial capacity. so question marks over libya at the moment, and question marks over whether opec ministers will decide to boost output or not. >> right, yeah. there's some conflict there and difference of opinion, but can they take a decision if some of the members of opec aren't even there? >> it was interesting, the iranian oil minister, as he went in, struck a more conciliatory note suggesting iran would go along with the decisions of the majority. however, we have also heard from venezuela suggesting that he didn't think that there was a need to boost output. now, of course, it must be said that even if they do decide to make a decision to boost output, that might be largely symbolic, because many opec members are already producing more than their quotas at the moment. >> bethany, thank you very much indeed for that. i'm joined by ja

resolution against syria warning it could be a prelude to an aggressive libya style intervention that the u.k. and france are committed to putting that more pressure on damascus in response to this crackdown on protesters. nato challenges its members to be more active in the aerial bombardment of colonel gadhafi forces russia which is trying to mediate a ceasefire between the libyan leader and the rebels both sides is not a military way out. earlier nato secretary general anders fogh rasmussen spoke to my colleague and he said out way and up next is that interview in full where he insists that the alliance has no plans to act in syria and defends the actions being taken in libya. thank you very much for joining us here in r t it's much appreciated i want to get straight to our first question the u.k. and france want a u.n. security council resolution condemning the syrian government and your opinion are we heading for libya two point zero here though i would like to stress that nato has no intention whatsoever to intervene in syria at the same time lots of critics expect that that cou

financial entities admits to gambling away more than a billion dollars of libya's investment american moguls called gadhafi. game for sky. fire fighters have got to play second i mean if an adult go into russia's republic or would want to go with a child seen tonight so baby spectacular but destructive artillery shell. under secure no longer a russian firm says it's by far the i phone's much touted security it's now offering to retrieve any information from anyone's phone for a sizeable price. this is r.t. live from moscow worse now i just started two pm on saturday rule research and welcome to the program well tokyo has announced it is freezing via quinto four point four billion dollars of colonel gadhafi assets in japan it comes on the heels of revelations that goldman sachs a bank involved in sparking the worldwide financial crisis in two thousand and eight gambled away more than a billion dollars that libya had invested in it and contrary to feeling guilty some american moguls are taking pride in squandering it will it be as much. long before the u.s. led airstrikes against libya'

but with a civilian casualties in libya mounting a no end in sight those paying for the intervention might be something of mormon bargain for the u.k.'s announced that its tax payers might see one point six billion dollars of their hard earned cash diverted to fund the intervention and is out is there ever reports negs is little patience left among an already dissolution public. they're already calling it the billion pound war it's calculated that if the war in libya goes on for six months it will cost the british taxpayer one point six billion dollars but that initial humanitarian mission is now get rid of gadhafi operation and that could take a lot longer assuming that. this could potentially be. extended the operation by another three months that's unlikely to be popular with the british public that government spending like a hawk already feel seeing services and jobs slashed even so downing street swore wall it is open and it's taking the lead in libya data gathered by britain's guardian newspaper from defense ministries and news reports shows that britain has flown twenty five p

involvement in libya. the white house has warned that such a restriction would be a boon to the libyan dictator muammar gaddafi, with the united states, along with european and arab enemies, is trying to oust. we expected the committee to get into session shortly. just to let you know our coverage plans, we are here to watch the markup session on this libya resolution. following that, we expect the committee to move on to consideration of nominations. we will lead here on c-span. double end our committee coverage at -- that will end our committee coverage at that time did you can watch the entire committee following the markup at c-span.org, and you can watch the morning session with harold koh. this is the senate foreign relations committee, and many of the 19 members have arrived. still waiting for the chairman, john kerry, to andarrive an -- to arrive and gavel this session in. the resolution would authorize limited military involvement in libya operation, but not ground troops. it is similar to a resol

tripolitania split to libya's or something that's all but is that an improvement. all the borders there for some reason. what are we doing about syria. why are we intervening in libya and on all through question so i'm afraid that and it's not it's really a question i mean that's and they would better not to do it omar jump and go right ahead i feel look if you're looking for moral consistency you're going to be baffled for a very long time about the different policy and double standards that people employ and reacting to situations of different countries i think the reason why there is no intervention in syria is because if the us had regime is knocked down by force you run a very serious risk of a regional war that ends up involving iran hezbollah and israel as well so you know the stakes are a bit higher over there now just of actually a little bit about libya i agree that i mean generally speaking the region is very iffy about the idea of foreign intervention but i don't know how anybody can say with a straight face that the intervention to stop the gadhafi for

on the situation in libya remains to be seen. right now for more on the attempts by the international criminal court to prosecute colonel gadhafi i'm now joined live by ericsson essay a co-author of an independent report into the war on libya thank you for joining us today also the i.c.c. has issued arrest warrants for more market afy and two of its allies that this mean that the libyan leader is likely to be prosecuted or is it just an empty gesture. well i think in the west mind it's it's one more pressure against carelessly but let me tell you i think it's a very stupid decision because on one side we perfectly know that we have done nothing concerning the sudanese executive on the other side it's closing one more possibility of negotiation between cathy and the other side of the. t.n.c. . or right now. i mean if you just shut some light on this you know the u.s. want to be an issue here so how are they going to arrest him does that kind of open the door for an invasion do you think. this is a problem there is no way to risk i