breaks the tackle, first down, alabama. what's in front of alabama now. >> gary: who do they lose to, right? you can't believe vanderbilt's going to beat them. >> verne: i don't think. >> gary: ole miss is not up to it. now tennessee do they have hunter back? maybe. and they got the the other they're not losing that one. >> verne: and what's the game. >> gary: the one with lsu. that might be on their schedule until the last game. how about the at auburn game again. that thing always turns out funny. >> verne: yes, it does and jason hunter from tennessee is out for the year so they're going to miss him. it's like flying with one wing. >> gary: right. >> verne: phillip sims is in at quarterback replacing mccarron and the entire offensive line left and there's a decent contingent of alabama fans behind the crimson tide bench and none of them have left i promise you >> gary: and to highlight the job by the offensive line they've produced running yards, 232 but also remember this, no sackses in this football game. not one sack g

breaks the tackle, first down, alabama. what's in front of alabama now. >> gary: who do they lose to, right? you can't believe vanderbilt's going to beat them. >> verne: i don't think. >> gary: ole miss is not up to it. now tennessee do they have hunter back? maybe. and they got the the other they're not losing that one. >> verne: and what's the game. >> gary: the one with lsu. that might be on their schedule until the last game. how about the at auburn game again. that thing always turns out funny. >> verne: yes, it does and jason hunter from tennessee is out for the year so they're going to miss him. it's like flying with one wing. >> gary: right. >> verne: phillip sims is in at quarterback replacing mccarron and the entire offensive line left and there's a decent contingent of alabama fans behind the crimson tide bench and none of them have left i promise you >> gary: and to highlight the job by the offensive line they've produced running yards, 232 but also remember this, no sackses in this football game. not one sack g

breaks the tackle, first down, alabama. what's in front of alabama now. >> gary: who do they lose to, right? you can't believe vanderbilt's going to beat them. >> verne: i don't think. >> gary: ole miss is not up to it. now tennessee do they have hunter back? maybe. and they got the the other they're not losing that one. >> verne: and what's the game. >> gary: the one with lsu. that might be on their schedule until the last game. how about the at auburn game again. that thing always turns out funny. >> verne: yes, it does and jason hunter from tennessee is out for the year so they're going to miss him. it's like flying with one wing. >> gary: right. >> verne: phillip sims is in at quarterback replacing mccarron and the entire offensive line left and there's a decent contingent of alabama fans behind the crimson tide bench and none of them have left i promise you >> gary: and to highlight the job by the offensive line they've produced running yards, 232 but also remember this, no sackses in this football game. not one sack g

alabama esta semana puso en prÁctica la ley anti inmigrante mÁs dura de todos los estados unidos. permite que le pregunten a niÑos y son indocumentados y dejar que la policÍa actÚe como agentes migratorios. vemos lo que esto significa para los emigrantes hispanos en estados unidos. tambiÉn el primer ministro de israel nos dice porque no le parece una buena idea que palestina en este momento se declare como una naciÓn independiente. adriana vargas habla con Él. en el programa el abogado que presentÓ la demanda en contra del expresidente mexicano ernesto zedillo. representa 10 personas que lo acusan de supuestamente ser responsable de una masacre de 45 hombres, mujeres y niÑos en chiapas en 1997. continuamos con la serie de candidatos, hoy bien al programa congresista que nos habla de su polÍtica migratoria y si debemos o no hablar con dictadores. estamos con marÍa peÑa de la agencia efe, y el corresponsal del diario mexicano reforma nueva york. comenzamos. ♪ >> vamos al punto con jorge ramos. ♪ >> vamos al punto. en muchos lugares de los estados unidos ser inmigrante

alabama is about 4% latino. so last year when arizona passed the most draconian anti-immigrant law in the country, there were large scale protests in arizona to be sure, but those protests weren't just in arizona. there were protests against arizona's new anti-immigrant law all over the country, organized boycotts against the state of arizona. sb-1070, better known as the papers please law, frankly became a national issue. more than a year later, after sb-1070 was stayed by the courts, alabama passed an even more draconian law, a law that essentially makes it illegal to exist without documentation in alabama. your very existence in that state in school and in a car, in a church maybe, could be considered a crime under alabama's new law. when a federal judge in alabama refused to block key provisions of the new anti-immigrant law, alabama's latinos, all 4% of them in contrast to the 30% in arizona, they comparatively were kind of just left on their own. many just left altogether, just fled the state entirely. "th

lsu and alabama. the game this saturday is on every alabama fan's mind. if you had to move forward to the first weekend in november. >> it's going to be such a great game. >> november the 5th. >> but both teams are very similar. very good defenses. i think it's going to come down to quarterback play. and jarrett lee has some experience, but he's not been really dynamic yet. and same with a.j. mcharen. but i think tomorrow watch for a.j. mcharen throwing the ball. i know they want to get him in the rhythm a little bit, get the younger receivers into the game. they're going to need him to make plays, especially on third down. >> what is it, brian, about the s.e.c.? i don't think anyone would argue it's the best conference in the country. you're a big ten guy. it seems when the teams get together, the s.e.c. prevails. can it be a question of speed? there are fast guys in the state of michigan, ohio, the state of illinois. what is it about the s.e.c.? >> well, i think as you look at it, it's the line play

. >> es de alabama. una corte prohibe qqe se pregunte el estatus migratorio a los niÑos que van a la escuela. fuertes protestas por la situaciÓn financiera en estados unidos y arrestos. haÁ marchas a fin de semana. acusan a un obispo catÓlico de encubrir los abusos cometidos por un sacerdote. este >> este es su noticiero univisiÓn. >> por las luchas. hacÍa cho que no tenÍamos buenas noticias de alabama pero hoy si. una corte previno que en las escuelas se pregunte por el estatus migratorio de los estudiantes y sus padres. esto limita la controversial ley que ha hecho que miles de latinos huyan de alabama. >> los gritos estallaron celebrando. acaban de recibir una noticia que para mÍ les abriÓ una esperanza. >> la ley se detuvo. son lÁgrimas de felicidad pero hace un minuto eran de dolor. >> nos sentimosaliviados porque el sistema aspiraciones bloqueo al menos dos artes de la ley. >> me siento muy afortunado al igual que todos. >> hombres y mujeres con lÁgrimas recibÍanel alto temporal para el

>> una corte federal bloqueÓ temporalmente parte de la ley hd 56 de alabama que habilitarÍa a las escuelas a averiguar el estatus migratorio de los alumnos. arrestan en texas ambas 150 pandilleros dedicados al contrabando de armas y drogas. fallece en la habana una de las fundadoras del grupo disidente cubano y a mÁs de blanco. la iphonemanÍa se apodera del mundo. ♪ >> muy buenas noches. a la banda metiÓ reversa. no pondrÁ en vigencia algunas de las partes mÁs duras de la ley de inmigraciÓn. ya no se preguntarÁ a los niÑos cual es el estatus migratorio de ellos y los padres. esta noticia tambiÉn la vida de miles de indocumentados en alabama. >> aquÍ en la Única estaciÓn radial de birmingham el jÚbilo fue palpable. >> estamos muy aliviados porque laonceava corte de apelaciones lo que otros capÍtulos de la ley. >> aquÍ en la coaliciÓn de intereses hispanos en alabama tienengrandes razones. son los que a diario enfrentan las consecuencias de esta ley. por lo pronto, dice isabel rivero, al bloque de la secciÓn relativa al estado el migratorio de los padres y estudiantes en l

fortunately alabama has come up with a 21st century solution, chain gangs, because alabama farmers are being offered inmates to help pick produce before it rots. now instead of having our food tainted by illegal aliens, it will be harvested by perfectly legal criminals. this plan works perfectly in georgia, other than the working part. jim? >> georgia's agricultural commissioner will tell congress his state's tough new immigration law has left farmers short 11,000 workers. and instead of jobless americans, some of the new workers are prisoners and ex-cons who farmers say don't work as fast as immigrants. >> turns out americans who have chosen a life of crime don't have quite the same work ethic as guatemalaen who have walked through 500 miles of desert to feed their children. [applause] so it appears... it appears that alabama is in a bit of a bind. republican state rep jeremy oden knows who is to blame for the problem caused by his legislation. jim? >> look, we need a federal program, a may granted program that we can apply in our state and give these skilled laborers to stay and help

authorized to practice in alabama. this is on page 223 of the petition. justice antonin scalia: but it seems to me it's up to you to produce the facts that would justify our reversing the case that you are asking us to do. mr. garre: we asked-- justice antonin scalia: you can say, we don't have these facts; well, send -- send it back so i can -- no, you should have gotten the facts in the first place. if the record doesn't show the things that you need to show to get this case reversed, the case should not be reversed, it seems to me. mr. garre: --but the petition did include a request for an evidentiary hearing. the think the problem is that both the district court and the court of appeals short-circuited the inquiry into counsel's actions because it believed that coleman v. thompson applied in the abandonment situation, and where a court made that kind of legal error, it would be appropriate for the court to send it back and say, no, coleman v. thompson does not apply in extraordinary cases of abandonment, or an atto

alabama. >>> la situación de miles de comercios hispanos y no hispanos. y de comerciantes cuando los restaurantes de la gente de alabama. >>> cuando tiene tinte en alabama, no puede hacer la cosecha, él es de alabama cuando pierden millones de dólares en im puertos, pierde alabama. es más, es anti alabama. >>> cada vez es más difícil, obtener algo sencillo que es el klein te. >>> en la inesperada soledad de su negocio el contador julio castillo. abrieron 5 oficinas, y hoy van a cerrar 3. >>> qué pasa con la gente que se queda a invertir su dinero que arriesga su dinero como yo. >>> de sus más td 1.200 clientes, por lo menos 600 se han marcado de alabama, huyendo de la hb 56. >>> cuando el gobernador dijo, voy a hacerme cargo que todo el mundo se vaya si no tiene papeles creo que no pensó de loed que venía atrás. porque no es los corrí si fueron. ¿no?. >>> la realidad es palpable. espacios vacíos en los centros comerciales, que estaban re mrelts de clientes y que hoy lucen semi de

eso se vive en el estado de alabama. veÍamos a los granjeros, a las personas que tienen sus cultivos, prÁcticamente desesperados y tambiÉn el departamento de educaciÓn quiere hacer un llamado y dejar muy claro cÓmo es la seccion 28 de la ley hb-56, solamente se le estÁ pidiendo certificado de nacimiento a los niÑos o a los alumnos que se inscriban a partir del 29 de septiembre. los que entraron a la escuela a partir de esa fecha, ellos si tienen que entregar un certificado de nacimiento, los demÁs no. incluso, ellos estÁn aclarando una situaciÓn, que bajo la ley del estado de alabama, los niÑos entre siete y 17 aÑos, estÁn obligados a ir a la escuela, josÉ. >>y eso, rogelio, es fundamental que lo hayas recalcado. muchÍsimas gracias. yo vuelvo y repito, rogelio, una cosa en la que estamos todos de acuerdo. si no fuera por la falta de liderazgo aquÍ, en washington, por una reforma migratoria integral, no estarÍamos teniendo que lidiar con este tipo de cosas en distintos estados del paÍs. >>asÍ es, josÉ.

are concerned to the influx of immigrants into the state of alabama. i think the fundamental argue, j.c., is this... jobs. since 1990, according to the u.s. census bureau, we've added 59 million people to the population of the united states. some have found their way to alabama. and so naturally, there is a conflict over jobs. you know, before, there was one person who could do a job. now, you have seven other people lined up to do the same job. i think what we need is a new rethinking of how we can accommodate the hispanic population that's coming to the state of alabama and places like montgomery county, maryland. and the indigenous white and black population of alabama. >> many people say that this law is really reverting alabama back to its racist days when you have laws like this against blacks. i mean they're talking about checking a student's immigration papers when he goes to school. if you stop someone in their car, asking them for the immigration papers. and the obama administration is appealing this law saying it is not constitutional. >> ex

en alabama? >> usted lo dijo anteriormente, donde mÁs discriminan. yo no me habÍa dado cuenta, habÍa leído pero se pierde algo entre el papel y las palabras escritas en un papel, ir a dialogar, escuchar a gente que lo vive en carne propia,1 delito grave en alabama es una madre indocumentada inscribiendo a sus hijos para que puedan tener los libros en una biblioteca pÚblica, tener agua, luz, inscribir el carro, de todas las fuerzas policiacas a nivel municipal, estatal y del condado sean una operaciÓn que estÁn designados a pararte, a cuestionarte los documentos y llevarte a la deportaciÓn. yo sÉ que en arizona dÍas el 70 de la mala y ha habido una serie de leyes malas pero la verdad que la peor de la peor, en la peor situaciÓn que vive nuestra comunidad es alabama. >> usted ha visto este nivel de ambiente antimigrante, que estamos viendo ahora, tenemos alabama, tenemos al presidente obama deportando a mÁs indocumentados que otro presidente, tenemos a los republicanos atacando a los in

>> la ley de alabama y la decisiÓn es muy decepcionante. va mucho mÁs allÁ que la de arizona. alabama acepta todos los aspectos de la vida de todos, no solo los inmigrantes, le niega el derecho a la vivienda, la universidad, convierte a los agentes de policÍa en agentes de migraciÓn tanto, los oficiales de las escuelas tambiÉn. la policÍa hoy en dÍa tiene la obligaciÓn de verificar el estatus migratorio de cada persona. la obama va mucho mÁs allá y acepta los derechos fundamentales de toda las personas que viven en ese estado y con la decisiÓn de esta semana de la corte federal marca un momento muy oscuro que va a marcar un cambio para la comunidad inmigrante. >> si en alabama se logrÓ esto, si una jueza mantuvo firmes algunos de los aspectos mÁs graves en contra de los inmigrantes, otros estados pueden seguir el mismo ejemplo. si a alabama lo logrÓ, nosotros tambiÉn. >> exactamente, nos preocupa mucho que la decisiÓn de la jueza le va a dar luz verde a mÁs grupos anti migrantes para tratar de hacer lo mismo a principios de 2012. nosotros tomamos la decisiÓn qu

. >> yo serÉ el primero de regresar a alabama y decirles: suÉltenla! suéltenla! suÉltenla! [aplausos] >> me decÍa el congresista que desde el lunes se reunirÁ con los miembros para pedirles apoyo e ir al departamento de justicia a solicitar el alto. un alto total a las deportaciones de inmigrantes sin documentos en alabama. por el momento es todo. regresamos contigo. >> buenas noches para ti tambiÉn. gracias, marÍa antonieta. y un accidente aÉreo en méxico dejÓ un saldo de dos muertos y tres heridos, entre ellos el ministro. el funcionario viajaba en helicÓptero por motivos de trabajo cuando cayÓ en picada en un distritnilla ciudad de mÉxico. el ministerio de desarrollo urbano fue transportado a un hospital y se investigan las causas. >> camineros mexicanos ya pueden ingresar a territorio estadounidense para distribuir su carga. se logrÓ gracias a que la clÁusula del tratado de libre comercio realmente fue puesta en marcha. quÉ opinan los camioneros a ambos lados de la frontera sobre esta decisiÓn? >> tardÓ once aÑos en entrar en vigo

he points to the unemployment rate in alabama, just under 10%, and the estimated $290 million alabama spends educating and caring for illegal immigrants. has the impact been what you expected? >> i think so. all the focus has been on the illegal alien and the challenge they may have for being here illegally. people forget the people who has not been able to start a business or who lost their business because the competitor down the road hired an illegal alien. >> reporter: today's decision by the 11th circuit court of appeals here in atlanta is temporary. its final decision could be months away. and scott, liz betancourt, the woman we interviewed on our story? she was fired by her cleaning company right after she spoke with us. >> pelley: mark, what's coming up next in this court fight? >> well, today's decision conflicts with the ninth circuit court of appeals decision about a similar provision in arizona's law, the provision that focuses on whether a local police agency or a state police agency can check the immigration status of someone simply because they're suspected of a crime.

>>sulema: aire libre y decepción en la comunidad latina de alabama, tras la decisión de la corte por apelación sobre la ley ante indocumentados, por un lado los jueces se negaron a congelar la parte severa de la normativa y por otro le dieron un respiro estudiantes, nos explica los pormenores. >>reportera: la prohibición judicial quitada por el circuito de la corte llegó después de que el departamento de justicia apoyando la solicitud de un grupo en favor de los derechos civiles de los inmigrantes le pidió al tribunal que bloqueara la hb56. >>pero que la corte señalo hoy que fueron ilegales varias partes de esta ley es algo positivo para los emigrantes de alabama. >>reportera: la petición fue una victoria parcial para los indocumentados en alabama de que bloqueó temporalmente partes de la ley, le dio luz verde a otras de las más intransigentes, por ahora las escuelas no pueden exigir los documentos estudiantes a la hora de escribirse, tampoco será un delito el no llevar consigo una tarjeta de identidad. >> es un alivio para todos los emigrantes que viven en alabama que tien

. >>> definitivamente la ley hb56 de alabama sigue tienendo reacciones, en washington se calificó a la mediad como inconstitucional y se pidió que fuera derogada. >>> tenemos que pelear, y defender nuestra comunidad, pelear esta ley y defender esta ley en alabama, pero habrán otros estados donde veremos la ley . >>> aunque no hay pruebas fantasmagóricas en alabama, parece que esta ley ha convertido a este pequeño pueblo en un pueblo fantasma, cientos de personas han abandonado la ciudad, carlos con la historia >>> como felipe que llegó a trabajar en los años 90. >>> era tan fácil vivir en alabama. >>> la mayoría de los latinos acá no tiene papeles, y por miedo el éxodo ha comenzado. >>> el día que la pusieron en la tarde, la gente tiene miedo a salir, y la gente se fue, la gente tiene miedo a que los deporten. >>> para miguel gonzález es una bofetada en la cara, que la policía oueda indagar sobre estatus migratorio. >>> no se vale, porque todos somos inmigrantes de aquí >>> ya casi ni salen ni llevan a sus hijos al colegio. >>> pues para ver qué pasa con la ley. >>> hace

it appears alabama is in a bit of a bind. republican state rep jere by his legislation. jim? >> look we need a federal program, a may granted program that we can applyte lled laborersay and help these people out. >> stephen:is p sealing the state borders.eploy the the the president's physical fitness. everybody get them to alaba to arrest whatever immigrants are left andn them to pick our crops as prison labor. at it. because toreserve our precious blts, we must do whatever it takes other than offer these peo[cheering and applause] >> stephen: welcome back, everybody. thank you very much. listen folks ever since i was a kid, i have loved halloween. it's the most the year, especially if you have allergy. i often went as rapidly swelling boy. sadly, some out there o this sugar fest.war on halloween. [laughte folks, once again the planet almond joy into almond shame. >> trend taking the nation by storm. it's calledo"c day." >> the idea is to keep thingsill. instead of actually buying a costume, why don't you just take them over to a location and swap >> costume i'm sorry, but i

we have a poverty problem in alabama. we have a problem with unemployment. and many of the folks that come to alabama illegally, they have a different set of rules that they're hired by. they don't have to have workmen's comp shrnls. they don't have to have employee tax. a lot of them were paid 1099 or paid under the table. it puts our working, the very people having the problem with unemployment, it puts them at a competitive disadvantage, and we need a level playing field. >> woodruff: miss toussaint-ortiz, how do you see the effect the law is having? >> what i see is i understand what they are saying in reference to the jobs, the ones that are already citizens, they need those jobs. but what i don't understand is how they make a decision, a law so harsh, they have to put all these people in a crisis. we are dealing with human bein beings. it doesn't matter if they are legal or illegal. if they were going to pass that law, they should have gave the people time to process all this changes. what we have created now crisis, misunderstanding. the police are no

born in alabama on march 18, 19 22, reverend shuttlesworth was raised in birmingham, alabama. brought up by his tough-minded mother, mrs. alberta, robinson -- alberta robinson shuttlesworth webb, she developed a very powerful personality that prepared him for his civil rights leadership in alabama. reverend shuttlesworth whereas a bright student and -- was a bright student and graduated valedictorian of his class at rosedale high school in 1940. shuttlesworth was compassionate, he was captivating, both as a student and then later as a minister. he captivated the -- the -- the baptist denomination and felt called to the ministry. he graduated from alabama state college, now known as alabama state university, in 1952, and became the pastor of the historic first presbyterian church, first baptist church in selma, alabama. in 1953 reverend shuttlesworth took over as pastor of bethel baptist church in north birmingham, alabama. reverend shuttlesworth soon became the most publicized crusader in the history of birmingham, alabama. he became active in the voter registration efforts of

creo que para los inmigrantes el estado de alabama. >>>vanes petición de 16 s fue una victoria parcial para los indocumentados en halo alabama porque bpartes de la ley. di verde a otra intranntes. la escuelas como pueden extos a los estudiante a la hora de inscribirse, no será unelito no llevar consigo una tarjeta de identidad. ue es un alivio para todos los inmigrantesen alabama e tienen en los . >>> pero no bloqueó la severa de la le6 la que permite a la policía cuestionar aenes sospechen tarían ilegalmente en e enerlos o mientras están bajo arresto. del depde justicia, llegó a alabama, para asegurar as residencias q su departamento no permitirá que se los derechos de nadie. >>> creo que llegara rápidamente uprema de estados unidos que determinará si estas leyes en son legales en alabama y en otraspartes del país >>>vanessa: desde n troque entró en vigor la medida... saer deportados y separados de su f >>> robert... que firmó la ley, no hubieracesao si el gobierno federa hiciera su treara leyes para controlar el prla ing

alabama. >> complicada situaciÓpara los inmigrantes en alabama. vamos a una pausa. el fiscal general tendrÁ que dar respuestas a cerca d operativo rÁpido y furioso. ademÁs, las imágenes de la destrucciÓn que dejó el racÁn a su paso por mÉxico. al regresar. ♪ >> el fiscal ndrÁ que testificar obligatoriamente ante el congreso y proveer informaciÓn con intercambio de mensajes en el caso de la fallida operaciÓn rÁpido y furioso de envÍo ilegal de armas aÉxico. mÁs detalles. >> muy buenas noches, el cruce de acusaciones alrededor del operativo entre el presidente del comitÉ de vigilancia el procurador gener, no para. hoy se emitiÓ una situación e obliga la entrega de documentos sobre esta operaciÓ >> la investigaciÓn del congre se concentra ahora en el procurador general y lo que sabÍa de la operaciÓn rÁpido y furioso. la nueva citaciÓn del comitÉ de vigilancia y refmas gubernamentales, presidida por el rublicano iza, ige departamento de justicia que entregue todos las comunicaciones. con el jefe del departamento de la divisiÓn criminal. el co

are rotting right now in alabama. don't take my word for it. go out and see it yourselves. the fact of the matter is that that is happening. so it all comes back to the fact that the federal government is completely unable to deal with something that the federal government has a responsibility to deal with, which is immigration reform. are the borders sealed to your satisfaction? if not, seal them. but then deal with the 11 million undocumented people that are here. it's a fate ak come pli. let's not deal with the statistical issues on school boards as much as the direct impact it's having on the undocumented but especially on the documented, on the american people that are going to have to see the aftereffects of what's happening in alabama. >> jose, i think part of it is it's important to know that when you do talk about statistics, again, the federal government all of a sudden removing $2 million from alabama schools, one of the poorest school districts in the country, i think that's a problem. and then we have to

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>>> hoy buenas noticias de alabama, una corte prohibe que se pregunte el estatus migratorio de los niños. >>> hoy hubo protestas y arrestos por el sistema financiero de estados unidos. >>> la iglesia católica es acusada de encubrir los abusos sexuales de un sacerdote. >>> este es su noticiero univisión con jorge ramos y maría elena salinas ♪. >>> muy buenas noches, hacía mucho que no teníamos buenas noticias de alabama, una corte prohibió que las escuelas pregunten por el estatus migratorio de estudiantes y padres, tenemos la información con maría antonieta collins ♪. >>> (gritos) >>> los gritos estallaron celebrando, acababan de recibir una noticia que derramaba esperanza. >>> estas son lágrimas de felicidad. >>> nos sentimos aliviados, porque se bloqueó al menos 2 partes de la hb56. >>> hombres y mujeres con lágrimas recibían la noticia, como jica la organización que ha trabajado por meses. >>> una de las partes, de estatus migratorio, de los padres y estudiantes, otro tiene que ver con el número 10. >>> no tenemos miedo, si cruzamos la frontera para venir a trabajar,

today he likes hunting, lynyrd skynyrd and alabama football. if i didn't know better, i would say you are a good old boy. >> i've grown up with southerners my whole life. some people even call me a mexican redneck. >> reporter: yet he and hundreds of other alabama students are fleeing schools, their parents making plans to flee the state. others feel trapped. if you could speak to the people who passed this law, what would you say to them? >> translator: don't be selfish. we all have and want an opportunity. >> reporter: this 27-year-old immigrated to alabama illegally from mexico seven years ago. she and her husband say they can't move because she's almost seven months into a hi risk pregnancy and every day they stay they risk deportation. they ask that their full names and faces not be revealed. >> translator: we are not stealing anything from them. simply asking them to let us work. >> reporter: families living in fear, children being pulled out of schools, was this the intent of this law? >> there's no intent for families to live in fear. >

authorized to practice in alabama. this is on page 223 of the petition appendix. >> but it seems to me it's up to you to produce the facts that would justify our reversing the case that you're asking us to do. >> we asked -- >> and you say, well, we don't have these facts. well, send -- send it back so i can - no, you should have gotten the facts in the first place. if the record doesn't show the things that you need to show to get this case reversed, the case should not be reversed, it seems to me. >> but the petition did include a request for an evidentiary hearing. and i think the problem is that both the district court and the court of appeals short-circuited the inquiry into counsel's actions because it believed that coleman v. thompson applied in the abandonment situation. and where a court made that kind of legal error, it would be appropriate for the court to send it back and say, no, coleman v. thompson does not apply in extraordinary cases of abandonment, or an attorney's actions cannot be attributable to a c