capture or a gadhafi death? >> this is not the kind of thing you hear people apine about a lot even in private. they said back in august, you'll remember, big advances made by the rebels, the president was in martha's vineyard and he came out and said that it's clear the gadhafi regimesoever. it's coming to an end. still a long way to go. you can imagine the focus here is going to be more on what's next for this transitional national council in terms of dealing with libya and getting it in and making the next step. the transition to a democratic society. that is more likely to be the focus than the issue of whether he was captured or killed. but in terms of that background inside information, i'm not privy to anyone coming out and saying that we want to see him dead or we want to see him arrested and put on trial. we'll wait and see what we hear. >> good to hear reaction from the white house and the highest levels of government in the united states. to this news once it is confirmed. kyra? >> let's bring back pr

gadhafi is over. the ones fighting with the gadhafi -- >> on the black market and get in the hands of terrorists. >> they will have, they have no place to sell them in libya. >> the concern is they could get out of libya. >> no, i think the border now are tight. i think especially aft after gadhafi's era is over, i think will be very difficult. >> thanks very much for coming in. >> thank you very much. >> libya's ambassador to the united states. president obama says the u.s. and its alleys help stop gadhafi in his forces. does the president deserve credit? i'll ask senator lyndsie graham. ♪ ♪ ♪ when your chain of supply ♪ goes from here to shanghai, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ chips from here, boards from there ♪ ♪ track it all through the air, that's logistics. ♪ ♪ clearing customs like that ♪ hurry up no time flat that's logistics. ♪ ♪ all new technology ups brings to me, ♪ ♪ that's logistics. ♪ ♪ ♪ co-signed her credit card -- "buy books, not beer!" ♪ but the second

the death of moammar gadhafi. republican senator lindsay graham summing up probably what many lawmakers are feeling, saying, the mad dog of the middle east is dead and the libyan people can breathe a sigh of relief. generally speaking, lawmakers seem to be describing this as a victory first for the libyan people. also, a victory for democracy. as democratic efforts across the world. and also, a victory for u.s. involvement in this conflict. there are still some lawmakers that are critical the obama administration did not act quickly or deice issively enough to bring this conflict to an end southeastern. republican senator from florida, marco rubio is one of those critics. he was just visiting at the end of last month. listen to what senator rubio had to say this morning. >> my point is if the u.s. had gotten involved early, aggressively and decisively, today would have happened months ago. libya would not be as destroyed. there wouldn't be as many rockets missing. it great that it turned out well but there are con

to replicate another gadhafi. what is of importance is that we all look forward now and give the new government whatever support we can and that government measures up. it's going to be a tremendous challenge to bring reason out of tumult. i hope they can do it about. we want to help them do it but they now have to step up, put their government together, take over, develop a constitution, develop the rule of law, and that's very important. and it took the united states a long time to do it, so we need to provide whatever help we can to see that there is a stable and democratic libya that emerges. >> you are among those who early on, during the conflict, before gadhafi fell from power two months ago who said you're nervous, some involved in trying to overthrow him had some ties to al qaeda, some of them might favor some radical islamist operations inside libya. are you convinced that either those elements have changed their ways or been rooted out of the transitional government, or is that a question mark? >> i tak

brother-in-law, save al islam, gadhafi's son and all the different factions of the gadhafi regime part of the brutalizing his own people as well as attacking innocent civilians all over the world, still are at large and need to be brought to justice. >> victoria, would you rather have seen gadhafi captured alive and brought to justice, put on trial, or are you happy that he was possibly executed in fairly the brutal fashioning by the rebels? >> well, a month ago, i had met with the current libyan president, president jalil, who pledged to me that he and his regime wanted to bring gadhafi to justice, not only for the murder of john and other innocent civilians but also for the murder of his people. he said that since february 17th, gadhafi had killed over 35,000 n civilians and in his 40-year regime, had killed tens of thousands of libyans and they wanted him tried and brought to justice. he also said to me at that point in time that there was a brutal war going on and the conditions around his capture and arrest were very volatile. and as we saw today, you know, you -- you saw what hap

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gadhafi is dead. that's the word from libya's acting interim prime minister. we have extensive coverage for our viewers here in the united states and around the world. >> all right. wolf blitzer is in washington. i'm in atlanta. we want to welcome our international viewers around the globe. >> i'm as wfl confirmed just moments ago that gadhafi has been killed. al jazeera has given us access to video of what appears to be his body. we want to warn you the pictures are very graphic. and you can see there that this is one a video showing a bloodied body of a man believed to be gadhafi. reports of his capture and killing came soon after the rebel forces had announced that they had taken control of sirte, his hometown. the gunfire there libyans didn't wait any time for confirmation of gadhafi's death to start celebrating there in sirte. libyan rebels fired into the air as you can see a great deal of celebration there and excitement. the burst of gunfire echoing through tripoli as well as people are filling

moammar gadhafi is dead. in the end, the man who ran libya for 42 years met a violent end and like saddam hussein he was found cowering, was stripped of most clothing and his dignity. the last moments showing his last moments alive are disturbing. there are graphic pictures showing him after death. the libyan revolution is now over. it is the middle of the night there but the streets are alive. an explosion of celebration erupted when word went out that gadhafi was dead. it's more change for our world. we have it covered tonight beginning with our chief foreign correspondent, a veteran of the battlefield in libya, richard engel here in studio with us. >> most libyans never knew another leader. these are shocking images that will resonate around the middle east and around the world. an arab dictator killed by his own people. gadhafi's final moments, injured, dazed, manhandled and dying, captured by rebels who prop him up on the hood of a car to take pictures, proof of life, but he wouldn't live much longer. [

to be gadhafi loyalists. a gun fight between the rebels and the gadhafi loyalists in this industrial park right next to a feed factory lasted for about 30 to 45 minutes, and apparently gadhafi was injured in that gun fight. when the rebels arrived they found him still alive but injured. and then he was apparently executed on the scene. >> richard, for the libyan people, what is the difference between him being found dead or alive? what's the significance? especially if he is confirmed to be dead. >> he wasn't going to make it out of this alive either way. if he was captured, he would have been put on trial. i think it was a foregone conclusion that he would have been found guilty and hanged. that he was killed on the spot by rebels who had just been in a gun fight is hardly surprising. he promised that he would go down in a fight, and it seems like that's what happened. >> what does this mean for the gadhafi loyalists that remain? >> well, gadhafi's son, saif, is apparently still at large. his intelligence ch

he's going to go the way of gadhafi. gadhafi had a choice. he could have taken a statesman like approach when it broke out and the world came down against him say, look, look, i've done my part, i've made libya a nation, i've gotten rid of the colonials, i've taken oil back for the libyan people, and it is time for younger leadership. he could have gone out in a statesman like fashion. so could bashar al assad. >> because gadhafi did have many opportunities to leave libya even. he said he would never do that, but he could have. he have free message. his sons certainly had an opportunity to go to a third country. they would presumably be alive living very well right now because they certainly had stashed away a lot of money in overseas accounts, money that the international community and especially the new libyan government is looking for right now. but they decided to stay there to fight for their regime, and now they've paid their price, moammar gadhafi now dead and now the picture of mutassim, one of his sons shown on libyan tv, also. repor

don't let gadhafi kill them. the libyans do appreciate the leadership of the united states and the support of the people. the support of the media and the support of the government organization that has been working with us as this uprising starts. we also evaluate the support of the nato countries. i mentioned the other countries. i am very happy to tell the world that the libyans did not disappoint you. the libyans managed to put an end for the book of gadhafi's regime. they open a new chapter with greater dreams for democratic countries and democratic regimes. libyans will enjoy for the first time in 40 years to know how to elect their own people. they still need their friends and they need them badly. we need them to establish our democratic institution. we need them to help -- we need them to help us and to help the libyans to be trained to take care of their countries. we still need their help. >> the transitional national council is in control of the entire nation. what assurances can you give your america

good offer gadhafi what happened to gadhafi is what gadhafi wanted gadhafi is an animal which wants to fight in the trenches against neo colonialism and are going to nato so he so he died as he wanted a martyr as chavez says one of the greatest martyrs or it will leave it there thank you very much you can china joining us live in london. now the news of mumbai got a few death shook the world raising many questions and we tackled the on on some issues on our website our teed dot com that gadhafi has put an end to the. eight months as the new libyan government celebrates the untold numbers killed in the conflict cast a dark shadow over them. dot com. the suspect responsible for the murder of a football fan last year which violent protests across the russian capital now faces life in prison those stories of. greek labor unions are threatening more strikes next week a day after the parliament passed a new round of austerity measures amid violent protests on the streets of athens and one hundred fifty thousand people came out in a two day national strike to voice their anger. in the greek c

what does that mean for that pro-gadhafi move? >> well, i think we ought to assume it's extremely good news. it will unite the rebel onin ways they were consumed by anxiety, having been dominated for 40 years. this is good news. my guess is that takes the air of the continuing struggle. now comes the period of retribution and i try to remind people, gadhafi had many people helping him as winners expressed as society. they have too sort this out. there will be a lot of cruelty and confusion in the coming year. >> ambassador, as we look to the next step, we have to look at the transitional council and what they might do with this development. what are your thoughts? >> the most important thing is coincidentally i was spoesed to have a meeting with the libyan ambassador to the united states to discuss the most urgent humanitarian crisis that the national transitional council faces that is from war veterans and wounded. there are tens of thousands of civilians and others not received adequate medical care. the hospitals are overloaded

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gadhafi is gone. . "the globe and mail" moammar gadhafi's death adds welcome momentum to the arab revolution. if the country's interim rulers can stick to their plan to hold elections within eight months, it might take less time to get there than either libya's revolutionary peers." tyrant's death brings new hope. it says the man who had inflicted so much pain and suffering on his people for four decades lay dead on a street in s sirte. few can regret his death. few libyans wish he could be brought to justice and many analysts that i have spoken to today, kyra, say the real challenge now is how the ntc will provide basic services to the people. actually can run the country. libya doesn't have any significant institutions of state and governments like the governments like the judiciary, for example, in order to be able to run it effectively and also, crucially, a very serious split many say between the liberal side of the ntc and the islamist side. and that could pose a danger for the future, if it's una

it's great that gadhafi's dead. that big question now after the night of the euphoria, after the night of gunfire -- we rolled in down the tunisian road with spent bullet casings of people shooting in celebration all night. now the question is how do we build this country and government next. we asked libyans who is.now, what comes next -- what's important now, what comes next, that's where it's hazy. they're happy their decades have been killed. for the first time in four decades, libyans waking up to a libya without gadhafi. the question of what comes next, that remains to be answered here, carol. >> well, we've all -- you can just take a look egypt to see how difficult it is to build a brand new government. so how does it work? will they come up with a new constitution? i mean, what's the timetable for holding elections, for example? >> reporter: well, you know, it's interesting that just next door to the west in tunisia, the first north african country, arab country to have one of these revolutions, they're abou

i want to warn you, they are very graphic but this is, indeed, gadhafi, and gadhafi is indeed gone. this photo is taken from misrata. possibly executed or caught in cross fire. you can see there are onlookers. >> faced with the potential of mass otrocities and a call for help from the libyan people, the united states and our friends and allies stopped gadhafi forces in their tracks. a coalition that the united states, nato, and arab nations persevered through the summer to protect the civilians and libyan people and broke the back of the regime. >> we'll have video of well and a much more impromptu of secretary clinton. the cameras were rolling. >> wow. >> unconfirmed. >> unconfirmed. >> yeah, unconfirmed. >> unconfirmed reports about gadhafi being captured. >> really? >> unconfirmed. we've had a bunch of those before. we've had, you know, have had him captured a couple of times. >> as you mention, you'll hear from a western reporter with an account of gadhafi's demise and an in-depth analysis of america's role in bringing in the end game. dan rivers is joining us, fran townsend, bo

gadhafi is indeed dead. the photos come from misrata where he was taken and killed possibly while trying to escape, possibly in a fire fight between captors and support toers or in crossfire or possibly executed. you can see he is surrounded by onlookers, he is not being mourned, certainly not there his death and of his son being celebrated in libya and in the west. >> faced with the potential of mass atrocities and a call for help from the libyan people, the united states and our friends and allies stopped gadhafi forces in their tracks. a coalition that the united states, nato, and arab nations persevered through the summer to protect lybian civilians and courageous libyan people and broke the back of the regime. >> we'll have video as well and a much more impromptu of secretary clinton. a aide showing her a blackberry with the news as cameras just happened to be rolling. >> wow. >> unconfirmed. >> unconfirmed. >> yeah, unconfirmed. >> unconfirmed reports about gadhafi being captured. >> really? >> unconfi

they don't have to keep looking for gadhafi. the fighting phase of the libyan revolution can be over. and it sends a message around the region. mubarak is gone, he's on trial. syria's regime is on its back foot. now gadhafi after 42 years is dead. >> this piece of videotape, there are several, but this one is circulating around the world today. this shows moammar gadhafi not in great shape but alive and in custody. at one point loaded on to and kind of being dragged behind annan loaded from a pickup truck while people screamed if he everishly around him and brandished at least one automatic handgun as you saw there. various stories about where he was found, a drainage pipe, an industrial park. but now we're about to hear from the president of the united states at the white house. >> good afternoon, everybody. today the government of libya announced the death of moammar gadhafi. this marks the end of a long and painful chapter for the people of libya who now have the opportunity to determine their own destiny in a new and democra

>> dylan, before gadhafi, there was a king. he was the leader of that country until gadhafi overthrew him in the late '60s. libya starts on the cadillac of crude. low sulfur content, not a lot of refinery requirement. everybody wants the libyan oil. it is the third largest reserve in africa. and there's only 6 million people. do the math. 6 million divided by $68 billion in revenues and you got a lot of money that can trickle down to that population. >> susan, go ahead. >> oh, ambassador, when we talked about that population, they're basically clans. and i'm wondering, how are they possibly going to get people together and really create a government and split up this money? i mean, it seems that there's still going to be some loyalists to gadhafi that are going to fight back? is there any way they're going to come together as a nation to handle this kind of money in my reasonable amount of time? >>> it all depends on whether or not this transitional national council that has a leadership that emerges that is respected by all of

like a gadhafi-style convoy. it was unmistakable that a nato war plane took out or at least brought it to a halt and somehow then he was in the hands of the rebels and from the pickup truck he was loaded into an ambulance and on the way to misrata. somehow died on the way. >> mick, thank you very much for the details. reports of gadhafi's death comes two days after secretary of state hillary clinton made a visit. she hoped gadhafi would be captured or killed soon. mike viquiera is traveling with the secretary of state and mick, i have the statement that she was asked a question about the reports and had a response with a question about gadhafi's death. what's the latest? >> reporter: well, here in islamabad, earlier discussions and she was in kabul afghanistan meeting with president karzai. she is with top officials talking about a sensitive part of the world and it has been a sensitive part for secretary of state clinton. she began this trip with a harrowing four hours on the ground and met with the leaders of t

gadhafi could offer you what happened to gadhafi is what gadhafi wanted could offer is i don't know which ones to fight in the trenches against neocolonialism i'm going to tell you so so so he died as he wanted a martyr says one of the great us markets all right we'll leave it there thank you very much you can china joining us live in london. now the news of monograph he's dead shook the world raising many questions and we tackle the unanswered issues on our website r.t.e. dot com the developing there has put an end to the eight month standoff but as the new libyan government celebrates the untold numbers killed in the conflict cast a dark shadow over their victory learn more at r.t. dot com. also on live feed the suspect responsible for the murder of a football fan last year which part violent protests across the russian capital now faces life in prison those stories in r.t. dot com. the. greek labor unions are threatening more strikes next week a day after the parliament passed a new round of austerity measures amid violent protests on the streets of athens and one hundred fifty thousan

mitt romney responded to news of gadhafi's death. >> it's about time, gadhafi killed his own people and murdered americans and others and the tragedy in lockerbie, the world is a better place with him gone. >> the chief political columnist from politico. we have a statement from rick perry who said the death of moammar gadhafi is good news for the people of libya and it should help them move closer to elections and a real democracy. the united states should work closely with libya so a stable and peaceful nation emerges. what about about what they say during the debate, when republicans are saying we shouldn't spend a dime and libya does have oil money and won't need the construction that iraq needed. we're talking about republican leaders who want to get out of the united nations rick perry said and this was a u.n.-nato operation. >> i didn't hear much praise for president obama in either of the republican statements. two days ago we had a debate where mitt romney said, why should we do foreign aid, let the chinese do it. well, libya is an exact example of why we need foreign aid. we w

y gadhafi pareceresistirse. y no se ve con claridad si sigue con vida cuando entra euna ambulancia, y dicen que se desangrÓ de camino al hospital. y muchos dicen que no sorprenderÍan lo mataron. >>> si Él muriÓ camino al hospital es una posibilidad, o que lo capturaran y lo mataran es una posibilidad. >>> momentos despuÉs se confirÓo la muerte de uno de los hijos de gadhafi. el primer ministro libio dice que muriÓ de un balazo a la cabeza. la tradiciÓn religiosa dicta que se entierre a gadhafi 24 horas luego de su muerte. jorge, regreso contigo. >>> gracias. y la muerte de gadhafi creÓ reacciones en el mundo entero, el presidente de venezuela dijo que su muerte habÍa sido un atro atropelo y lo calificÓ como mÁrtir. >>> el presidente obama dijo que maa el final de un capÍtulo duro para libia. >>> han ganado su revoluciÓn dijo, no hablÓ de las circunstancias de la muerte de gadhafi que confirmÓ el gobierno de transiciÓn, esperamos esto por mucho tiempo dijo el primer ministro. >>> es un logro porq

>> gadhafi is now dead. >> right. it's been two years since the convicted bomber megrahi was sent back to libya. he is supposed to be dying. he's still alive and the ambassador of the united states says they're not going to extradite him and this is the new transitional government? does that make you angry? >> we've been trying to do what we could to lobby to change things and change policies and we're not going to stop the fight. we'll go after him and to get megrahi to serve his time out in prison. for the better part of 20 years and people want to push it aside and move ahead and today we should all take a moment and realize that the head of the snake has been cut off. gadhafi has been killed, but there are still parts of the snake that need to be held accountable including megrahi and other parts of the gadhafi regime. moussa koussa is now in qatar and was one of the early defectors and he should be held accountable. >> it's interesting to point out that sometimes people have a desire to see things gone. bad guy g

they cannot stop watching the footage about gadhafi's death. the libyan exile didn't believe it until he saw the picture of gadhafi's bloodied body. that's when he really realized the nightmare was finally over. >> it with was a big relief. it has been overdue for 42 years. that's, you know, not a short time. it is a life. >> reporter: he came to the united states for college in 1974. once he graduated he wanted to return home, but realized he couldn't because of gadhafi's rule. his family is still there. during his reign, gadhafi took over his parents' business and threw his brother in prison. >> at within time he criticized the government -- at one time he criticized the government and they an used -- they accused him of trying to revolt against gadhafi and put him six years in prison. >> i have hate for him. iÑivéu despise him decision gus. >> reporter: 22-year-old samaya first saw the reports. she joyously woke up her parents to tell them the news. >> my parents deserve this more than i do. so i wanted them to experience it with me. >> re

all of the gadhafi news yesterday. you can back from the big debate and the gadhafi news. >>> moammar gadhafi killed in his hometown, captured alive. almost 24 hours after reports he was mortally wounded there is still a fog surrounding exactly how it happened. >> right. and new videos popping up all over the web showing his final moments. we want to warn you. these videos obviously are graphic. this one showing a badly wounded extremely bloody confused gadhafi being man handled but is clearly alive here. the statement says he was killed in a crossfire. later pictured show his dead body with a bullet wound to his head add close range suggesting he was executed. >> news of his death spark wild celebrations in the streets of libya. guns blasting. president obama telling the libyan people, you have won your revolution. >> so our coverage begins with chris lawrence live from the pentagon. chris, what do we know about how gadhafi died? >> reporter: the exact way in which he died is still under debate. there is con flicting

they cannot stop watching the footage about gadhafi's death. the libyan exile didn't believe it until he saw the picture of gadhafi's bloodied body. that's when he really realized the nightmare was finally over. >> it with was a big relief. it has been overdue for 42 years. that's you know not a short time. it is a life. >> reporter: he came to the united states for college in 1974. once he graduated he wanted to return home but realized he couldn't because of gadhafi's rule. his family is still there. during his reign gadhafi took over his parents' business and threw his brother in prison. >> at within time he criticized the government -- at one time he criticized the government and they an used -- they accused him of trying to revolt against gadhafi and put him six years in prison. >> i have hate for him. iÑivéu despise him decision gusted. >> reporter: 22-year-old samaya first saw the reports. she joyously woke up her parents to tell them the news. >> my parents deserve this more than i do. so i wanted them to experience it with me. >> rep

i turn the page on the gadhafi era, 40 years of a struggle that ended with the end of this gadhafi era and now we have a new page and we look forward to democracy, justice and human rights. i'm very optimistic that we will have a democratic, free country. >> all right. mazin, thank you very much for taking the time to join us. i know it's late tonight, but still very busy in tripoli. mazin ramadan joining us from tripoli. >>> the housing market is in big trouble and it will take a big job to help and senator chuck schumer and mike leigh think they've got one. >> 97% of pakistan's population is forbid tone drink. why can't we resist pakistani beer? >> and pat buchanon to talk about libya and the presidential campaign. "outfront" next. ♪ [ cellphone rings ] cut! [ monica ] i have a small part in a big movie. i thought we'd be on location for 3 days, it's been 3 weeks. so, i used my citi simplicity card to pick up a few things. and i don't have to worry about a late fee. which is good... no! bigger! bigger! [ monica ] ...because i don't think we're going anywhere for a while. [ male ann

when it's not gadhafi. but, you know, justice has been done. it's too bad people like gadhafi can only die once. that's the prevailing view of the, of the people they terrorize. so, it's a great day. >> fouad, a question about that. if he is dead, all along the national transitional council said he wanted to give gadhafi a fair trial and that would prove something about these rebels. it would prove that they're fair minded and moving more towards a democratic form of government. that moammar gadhafgadhafi's de. you say you wish he could die twice, but, really? >> i know that fallen hard times but there was a line in the "terminator" where he says you have the right to remain silent. gadhafi had the right to remain silent. one man in the world who abused a whole nation and who stole its wealth and took away its libe liberty. none other than moammar gadhafi and look at the way he ends. he end the way saddam ended. suda saddam came out of a spider hole saying, i want to negotiate. this is the game this man pla

gadhafi created winners. there will be enormous appropriate animosity between these factions, and i think there will be a struggle to eradicate those who dominated society for 42 years. i would be very cautious about thinking this is a pastoral society that will start over. there were a lot of thugs in libya that stayed to the very end. >> thanks to all of you. the developments in libya are coming in to msnbc's news room as we speak. we'll continue to keep you up to the moment with complete coverage of the report of capture and possible death of moammar gadhafi. coming up at 10:30, senator robert menendez, a member of the senate foreign relations committee, will give us an update. mucinex, lysol disinfectant spray and...a toy drum. hiya folks, so the other day i tried to buy some camouflage pants but i couldn't find any. [ rimshot ] thank you, thank you i'll be here all week. in fact, i'll be here for the next 18 years. [ rimshot ] is this really necessary? come on ma, laughter is the best medicine! i'm just

apparently moammar gadhafi -- libya's prime minister is confirming this morning that moammar gadhafi was killed today. a man who's been on the run for several months now. >> who ruled that country for some 42 years. tripoli was taken over two months ago, two months tomorrow. then we get the word early this morning his hometown of sirte has been taken over and that he had been captured and now killed. we have more video from this morning. this is graphic video. it was obtained by al gentlemja. this is apparently the body of moammar gadhafi. they are showing this video this morning. as you can see it is very graphic. it does in fact appear to be the body of moammar gadhafi, that is what they say it is. a lot of reports of different nato air strikes in the area, so still flushing out a number of those details this morning. >> one thing seems clear, sirte fell relatively quickly and we got this news about gadhafi. we're going to go to the white house. we've been waiting for reaction from them. bill plante is standing by. bill, have we heard anything from the white house on their plans? >

it reads gadhafi was here. the rebels also arrested his bodyguards and seized the gold pistol they say gadhafi was carrying. gadhafi asked rebels who they were and said don't shoot, i'm like your father. but these rebels say they did shoot him, at least once in the lower stomach. >> we shot him, somebody shot him by gun, 9 millimeter. they also hit him with their shoes before loading him into an ambulance. gadhafi had been on the run since tripoli fell two months ago as his palace was overrun, he escaped, reportedly through a network of tunnels. gadhafi returned to his hometown, issuing defiant radio addresses promising victory and vengeance. tactically sirte was a poor choice. but at least in sirte gadhafi felt safe among loyalists. in the end gadhafi died surrounded by rebels he once called rats who pulled the wounded dick dater from a drainpipe, shot him and watched him die. >> richard engel who spent an awful lot of time in libya there reporting from us. in a statement from the rose garden president obama p

the president also reflected on the gadhafi -- the end to the gadhafi regime. no doubt we are going to hear these themes in the election that's coming up in 2012. a man who did not run on his national security credentials but very well could use that to bolster a leadership claim going into 2012 that on the national security front at least on foreign policy, that he has had what this a mgs perceives as some sugss, wolf. >> jessica, gore ya borger is here as well. >>> the praez is saying things are moving in the right direction in afghanistan as well. there is still 100,000 troops in afghanistan. as far as afghanistan's concern he's pledged to keep those troops there through the end of 2014. another three years, plus. they're not coming home from afghanistan all that quickly. >> but he was very careful to make the case that we're beginning to withdraw our troops and that number, the numbers will continue to go down. make no mistake about it. what he was talking about it was essentially promises made, promises kept, i agree with john, this was sort of pointing it