i was thinking about gerald ford. in particular i was thinking about a conversation president for head in the oval office of the white house in december 1976 with the iranian ambassador to washington. in that conversation, president ford explained to the ambassador that he needed the help of the shah of iran to stop opec, the cartel to represent oil producers from approving another big increase in the price of oil. at that time the shah was this country's most important middle east ally. so much so that the shah was known by admirers and critics alike as america's shah. opec was due to meet in a few days time to calculate the size of the price increase for the following year. the shah had made it clear to ford that he believed oil was undervalued in price, and that western consumers could afford to pay 15% more for the imports of persian gulf crude oil. he had already brushed aside a letter from ford asking him to rethink his position. the president's meeting with the shah and ambassador was a final attempt to make th

when he had to resign before nixon did, nixon appointed a new vice president named gerald ford. that was an appointment, not an election. so when nixon then had to quit, too, this man who was never elected president and who was never elected vice president, a man who had been appointed to that position and then only got to the oval office because the two crooks ahead of him in line got caught and had to quit, gerald ford inexplicably became president of the united states. then less than one month after taking office in the rather gangster sort of way, gerald ford said richard nixon according to him was off the hook. scot-free. >> i deeply believe in equal justice for all americans. whatever their station or former station. the law, whether human or divine, is no respecter of persons but the law is a respecter of reality. now, therefore, i, gerald r. ford, president of the united states, do grant a full, free and absolute pardon unto richard nixon for all offenses against the united states which he, richard nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in. >> so richar

what did gerald ford do about these? >> he had a problem because he was on elected and he had a short term. he was dealing with multiple crises. the flood the market in 1977 to read right now they're pumping more oil than they have the past 30 years. i think that there have probably been a series of discussions with this of ministration about the need to help of the europeans in particular. history is repeating itself because policy makers often are working in secrecy, often working very quickly and having to make decisions quickly and are not able or don't have the analysis and hand or if they do their choosing to disregard it. so it is really going to have to come from a combination of public pressure, public awareness which means media interest which is very difficult these days or else as oil production plateaus and low prices rise and hundred 50-$200 per barrel, possible the market will take care of it and we will see these investments and renewable energy have to comment because people will not be able to -- this k

ronald reagan ran against the incumbent, gerald ford, and lost. none of the republican field had that -- has the experience today, with the possible exception, you could say, of ron paul, who ran as a libertarian and lost. host: roger simon, a columnist at the chicago sun-times and worked for the "chicago tribune." is that like the cubs and the sox? guest: absolutely. it is pretty rare. i am a sox fan, being a southsider. and there is no way you can be both. it is only because rupert murdoch bought the "sun-times" that i left it, my wife and i. i went to the "tribune" to do long, thoughtful pieces on american politics. as some might remember, that was the year of monica lewinsky, and i did not do long, thoughtful pieces. host: laurel, maryland, democrats' line. caller: my thing is -- you know, people tend to blame barack for congress. congress is totally against anything he does. he can put the blame on them. i do not think he has been more tougher toward congress, but that does not want to change my vote. i am voting for him. it does not matter t

. >> gerald ford. >> he is under retek. i think he was aggressive on intelligence and he was kind of a mainstream conservative internationalist. i think he did his best of the circumstances. it was a difficult time for the u.s. foreign policy because public and congress was fed up with the memory of the vietnam and the possibility of anything that might resemble vietnam chapter 74, 75, 76 and the allies, cuba, for example were promoting socialist revolutions and africa parts of the world and in the political times residing foreign policy he was focused left and right attacks from the left were rising and the dictatorships and attacks from the right or not tough enough on the soviet union and that is where reagan came from 1976 the taut and sailed on the answer was to be even tougher so he got it from both directions. >> would you teach at george mason you? >> george mason politics, security, defense policy, book graduates and undergraduates. i did great work at oxford. >> or economic interests important in foreign policy? >

. >> you were appointed at 75 by gerald ford. >> yes. >> you served under warren burger. >> yes. that is exactly right. served with him. >> i'm sorry. >> that is exactly right. we did an interview with him during the time. here is an interview to the people are who are not familiar with warren burger can see what he looks like. >> we have, give or take, 1500 in the federal judiciary, 30 magistrates and bankruptcy judges. there are very near 1000 life tenure article three judges now. they are there because we need them and we need more. congress is constantly expanding federal jurisdiction, and we have to have more to take care of it. >> what was it like serving with chief justice warren burger? >> there are all sorts of aspects of it. he was a very likable man. he is judged as being somewhat pompous and more regal, but he was a good presiding officer. a very gracious public appeal. he handled public affairs very well. on the internal deliberations of the court, i think he was less competent than either of his two successors. to be frank with you, he did many fine things, but i do

>> guest: jimmy carter and gerald ford. >> host: that's kind of remarkable when you think about it. was there any time in the debates where you were sort of panic inside and thought oh, my gosh, this isn't going to come off? >> guest: you mean the content? >> host: yes, the content or the logistics, or something, something was sort of got out of control. i know there were other debates that kind of got out of control. >> guest: yet, no. there was any time or i thought things would be out of control. there were many times i was disappointed i was unable to use the rules in such a way to ask the follow-ups that i thought should be asked. i always worked very hard to make damn sure that i stay within the rules, and i also worked very hard to use the rules in ways so that there can be a float to its. >> host: do you have input into the rules? >> guest: no. they give you the rules and they say, we hereby invite you to moderate debate so-and-so, and will you, are you interested? will you do this? and will you agree to enforce these rules? >> host: what's the best format? >> guest: to -- t

. >> president obama wants us to think not like gerald ford but harry truman. he had a tough congress tuesday with, but acted on his own. his time to starart behaving like a president, not like a politician from chigo lambasting the rich, more tax breaks -- i can deal with china. i can do with energy. it is time for him to dl with that part >. >> he did at -- if he acted unilaterally on china, prices would go up. >> absolutely. >> we are going have this debate. let's talk about the debate that is coming up. your news organization, bloomberg, is hosting the next big debate. >> that is right. we h have a debate in new hampshire, the first solely about the economy. it will be 8:00 p.m. on bloomberg television and streaming live. >> is funded by the peterson institute. >> i will be going to new york thatight to appear the next morning on fox to help cover the debate appeared >> ver good. all-star lineup and all-star coverage. we will have this debate after the debate. thank you for joining us. up next, our number for the weeeek -- 188,003 and 74. [ mr. connally ] i

ronald reagan ran against the incumbent, gerald ford, and lost. none of the republican field had that -- has the experience today, with the possible exception, you could say, of ron paul, who ran as a libertarian and lost. host: roger simon, a columnist at the chicago sun-times and worked for the "chicago tribune." is that like the cubs and the sox? guest: absolutely. it is pretty rare. i am a sox fan, being a southsider. and there is no way you can be both. it is only because rupert murdoch bought the "sun-times" that i left it, my wife and i. i went to the "tribune" to do long, thoughtful pieces on american politics. as some might remember, that was the year of monica lewinsky, and i did not do long, thoughtful pieces. host: laurel, maryland, democrats' line. caller: my thing is -- you know, people tend to blame barack for congress. congress is totally against anything he does. he can put the blame on them. i do not think he has been more tougher toward congress, but that does not want to change my vote. i am voting for him. it does not matter t

. >> schieffer: so did gerald ford but he did by agreement. >> by negotiation. but would have been subject to a subpoena depending on the circumstances is. the point is this, when you're actually making a more radical case than i am. you're suggesting that if the congress can't subpoena a judge, a judge could not issue an instruction to congress. that the branches would be truly separate. that's not what happens today. today you have judges who are dictatorial and arrogant, who pretend that they are the dominant branch and who issue orders that clearly are against the constitution. >> schieffer: let me ask you one other thing that you said. you said in the gingrich administration you would just tell the national security officials to ignore the supreme court's recent rulings on national security. so which law is it? do you just follow only the laws you wish to follow under your doctrine? how does that work? >> you follow the law. in the cases i'm citing recently with hamden, you had the court overturning the congress and the president. and what i'm saying we hav

johnson richard nixon and gerald ford and when i looked him up i also found that he's been in the news about another european wide issue arising in the very same week these last few weeks and that's the tobin tax you know all the governments of europe are now agreed that they want to tobin tax which is a tax on financial transactions the only one outside of this is the u.k. of course because they have the city of london and they don't want a financial transaction tax well from september twenty seventh her father harold was quoted in the f.t. in an article titled long term investors would benefit from tobin tax and harold monger refers to the fact that so much trading is now high frequency trading and so long term investors are disadvantaged he says because he argues that big financial institutions that operate h f t platforms try to when we up flagging markets by well timed surge of buying of exchange traded funds triggering automatic buy responses from algorithmic trading models across the market if true this must create an upward market bias that will over time skew asset values oh t

. >> you are appointed in 1975 by gerald ford. >> yes. >> you served under warren burger. >> yes. >> but did not serve under anybody. >> that is exactly right. everybody says that. >> you talked about when he was bicentennial. we did an interview with him. here is a little clip to people who have not seen him can see>> we have 1600 in federal and bankruptcy judges. there were 1000 life articles. we have to have more machinery. to take care of it. burger? >> there are all sorts of aspects with it. he is a very likable man. he was judge sometimes as being pompous. i was the presiding officer. he had gracious public appeal. who handled the public affairs. i do not think he handled the conference as well. he did many fine things. i think he was accurate. -- i do not think he was as accurate as he could be. he assigned opinions to members of the court. there were four other officer. in conference. he was an excellent presiding officer in public. he was very fares to both sides. one was a necessity for more time to make arguments. he would frequently allow a little extra. >> the part of th

in september of 1974, gerald ford was almost alone in understanding that there can be no healing without pardon. the consensus holds that this decision cost him an election, and that is very likely so. the criticism was fierce. but president ford had larger concerns at heart. and it is far from the worst fate that a man should be remembered for his capacity to forgive. >> heartwarming words from richard cheney about the president's decision to pardon. why do you focus so much on that in the book? >> because there were -- it's always been the case if you are rich and powerful, you have advantaged in the legal system. if you watch ford delivering the speech to the nation where he justified it, and he is very uncomfortable, and his press secretary resigned 30 days after -- >> and wildly unpopular. >> and this idea that while he actually said in there, of course law is no respecter of person, which is the crux -- he added a newly concocted amendment, but it's a respecter of reality meaning if it's too inconvenient, you see how elites looked upon that. and they knew if the rational was -- wel

if you earned $43,000 back in 1979 when gerald ford was president, in 2007 you only earned $60,000. that's not much of an increase. pretty sad, if you ask me, brooke. >> so why the disparity wean the rich and the middle class? >> that's a good question. and for one, the rich have higher paying jobs. think about it. they are executives, bankers, sports and enntertainers. capital gains and dividends are taxed at a lower rate than income. it's one of the big reasons why we're seeing this fiery political debate this season about overhauling the u.s. tax code and most analysts say the plat tax that is being proposed, the 9-9-9 from herman cain, those proposals that the analysts would only say they favor the rich. brooke? >> thank you. diana is still in eastern turkey. the earthquake is has caused 471 deaths? diana? >> reporter: 471 deaths and over 1600 people injured. a 27 and 18-year-old were pulled out of the rubble on wednesday. >>> forgive us for interrupting that. but you hear the horns? chad myers, perhaps the horns are harbingers of what is to come? >> they will blow a hole in thi

i learned the hard way with gerald ford. >> he needed a place to stay at the time, bob, and i do care. >> you do care. >> i will get in trouble for that one. >> no, you are okay with that one. >> you said president obama had nothing good to say about himself. earlier in the speech he talked about things he accomplished over the past few years. >> sure, and he said it was a trend and a trend to be liking him. i think it was a lot of hype and i think he agreed. >> would you say we should believe the hype or don't? >> don't. >> so you say he should be impeached? >> that's exactly what i'm saying. >> you don't want to impeach one of the greatest presidents we have had. >> down twinkles. >> bob, is it true you once had a monkey you bought when you were stoned? >> i did. i really did. and it ripped up my apartment and it ripped up my neighbor's apartment and we had to euthanize it. >> that's a saddening. >> greg, you used the rocky movies as an analogy for obama. but "rocky 2" a huge hit and" rocky 4" made more money than the original. are you saying he will be a four-term president? >> i t

gerald ford was president and the united states was celebrating its bicentennial. the country was also going through what was widely regarded as a sexual revolution. that's when moore's troubles began. >> i was convicted of killing my wife in 1976 in the state of iowa. >> moore's wife, terri williams, was a dancer at a local club when their relationship began. >> i was just a customer. i just walked in off the street. we met, hit it off pretty decently, you know, and ended up -- well, we picked each other up actually, so we went to terri's apartment and made love and enjoyed each other's company, you know. we got married. then i began to have thoughts about terri. i thought maybe terri was a little bit different, you know. >> how so? >> i felt that the person was more like a man than like a woman, and i thought that the person maybe had been a man. >> why? >> from feeling into this area of their body, you know. i thought that's very similar to me, you know. it's like the person has had their sex organ removed. that's what i thought, you know, but i wasn't completel

unless there is a major gaffe the way gerald ford during the debate with jimmy carter said that eastern europe wasn't under the dominance of the soviet union. i don't think that matters either. i think the reason that the debates are important is because they convey an impression to the voters and that's why rick perry is done. he is finished. he conveys an impression of someone who needs about a gallon of geritol and would rather be any place than on the stage with the other candidates. and i think that's why mitt romney is leading because he conveys an impression of someone who is both smart and attractive and in this year very important confident. by the way, not one person in america, bill, who could tell you anything in his 59 point plan. that's not why they like him. they like him because of the impression he conveys in the debates. this is very important. listen to 10 minutes of talk radio. you will see how much the true blue most compassionate conservatives out there do not like mitt romney. >> bill: that's not a big voting block. it's talk radio but it's not a big voting block.

the edward levi, attorney general under gerald ford, edward levi guidelines very much similar to the fisk stone guidelines. put the, supposedly put the fbi out of the business of surveillance and intelligence gathering. unfortunately, the levi guidelines like the fisk stone guidelines were not law, they were just guidelines, and so they became chipped away until 9/11 when attorney general ashcroft announced that he was scrapping those guidelines altogether. now, we're back in the same boat. the attacks and the surveillance, the chilling effect on the arab and muslim community, the third time around on illegal immigrants you would have to think that there would be a better way. this is, you know, the third time it's happening. and just in the sheer, practical level it doesn't seem to work. so just to conclude i would say so the question is why does all this matter? it matters because the scapegoating of any minority curtailing the civil liberties of any minority is the first step toward curtailing the civil liberties of all. it necessarily brings with it surveillance. because we alway

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. >> bill: here is question 2, gerald ford may have reinforced his imas a lightweight when he made a huge foreign affairs gaffe during a 1976 debate. >> there is no soviet domination of eastern europe and there never will be under a ford administration. >> i would like to see mr. ford convince the czech americans and polish american in this country that those countries don't live under the domination and supervision of the soviet union behind the iron curtain. >> bill: that sunk ford, no doubt. who was mr. ford's running mate in that vote? a, ronald reagan, b, john conley, c, george h.w. bush. d, bob dole? who ran against carter. that was an easy one we threw in for everyone to make you feel good. feel good? >> yeah. >> bill: it's a tie. three to go. here is question number 3. the first televised presidential debate in history was in 1960 between richard nixon and john f. kennedy. >> senator kennedy, too often would rely too much on the federal government. on what it would do to solve our problems, to stimulate growth. >> i come out of the democratic party which in this century produ

. >> tomorrow's bloomberg view column, about what barack obama has in common with gerald ford. >> oh. okay. >> "washington post" zack gold farb's good piece on what the administration has and mostly hasn't done on the housing problem. >> great piece and well-timed. casey. >> later this week, my colleague phil elliot is running in the marine corps marathon. >> wow, the transformation of phil elliot is unbelievable. my shameless plug, i'm going to my home state tomorrow to moderate a debate on the referendum on collective bargaining. that's it for this edition of the "the daily rundown." and don't miss "andrea mitchell reports." >>> your business travel forecast. cold front through the great lakes and showers moving into new england as we go throughout the afternoon and evening hours. the forecast not bad. partly cloudy skies, not too warm, not too cold on the east coast. typical fall weather. and in the west, enjoy denver while it lasts, 79 to see and snow tomorrow. capital one's new cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus! so you earn 50% more cash. according to research, every