to bring this about? >> chairman inouye, we certainly do in the navy, and our primary office we put up a couple of years ago, the career transition office in millington that is handling all of these transit n transitio transitions, we're proud of the work that they've done to reduce the time it takes to make the transition what used to literally be four to six months down to somewhere two or three days by analyzing the process and making it smoother. we do believe that as we look forward here in the next couple of years that the active component that's been so full and stayed full starts to transition will have an opportunity to bring those sailors into the reserve component. we want to make that transition as seamless as possible and most of that we've discovered has been our regulations and policies within the department. there have been several things over the last several years that you all have been very helpful with in making that happen. i would say the most important thing we need to do, as i mentioned earlier, is to have real and meaningful work for those sailors, soldiers,

fio. secretary of the navy mavis called the authority to allow the d.o.d. to enter into long-term contracts for alternative fuels. the accounting for 2% of u.s. energy consumption the department is the single largest energy in the country. according to the admiral mike mullen, former chairman of the joint chiefs, using 300,000 barrels of oil every day, energy use per soldier creeps up every year. no one know the better than the department energy supplies are critical to combat troops and our national security. the defense sector to adopt domestically produced fuels for the security of our troops without these. secretary mavis outlined several goals to lead the navy towards a nor energy secure fleet. by 2015, reduce petroleum in the commercial fleet by 50%. by 2020 the navy produces 50% of the shore base energy requirements from alternative sources and 50% of total energy consumption will come from alternative sources. to ultimate realize the goal wes must scale up biofuel protection in the united states. one way to help, allow the department to engage in longer term contracts with

1990 to '91. the veterans here discuss their army, navy and air force service in the persian gulf and reflect on the attention they received from the press and disrespect they experienced due to their gender. the library of congress veteran's history project hosted this event. it's about an hour. >> this is great. good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. welcome to the library of congress. my name is bob patrick. i'm the director of the veterans history project, a special collection of the library's american folk life center. the veteran's history project is a congressionally mandated effort to collect and preserve the wartime memories of america's veterans. we're in our 12th year of doing just that. it's a very important effort. it's thanks to the efforts of volunteer organizations, institutions and even individuals, we have been able to amass an archive of some 80,000 collections of veterans, veterans from world war i all the way up to veterans in the most recent conflicts in iraq and afghanistan. this is a permanently preserved archive at the library of congress that we hope in th

very closely with the navy's presence down there and the ship building capability along that gulf coast and personally serving in the navy, i'm a little bias. about the importance of the u.s. navy. but what is the prospect of this budgetfoap ship construction an maintenance and adding new ships to the fleet. is it robust enough to take care of responsibilities for national defense that falls exclusively under the jurisdiction of the na navy? >> yes, sir, and i would respectfully like to defer that question if i could. primarily because in the navy reserve, which is my responsibility, obviously, we do have a reserve fleet of now nine fr frigates and as we're retiring those frigates, we're bringing more in to replace them until we retire all of our navy reserve frigates. as i look forward in the future, our involvement once those frigates are retired will primarily be with combat ship program which, as you know, is ramping up and we're in active discussions with navy and where we in the navy reserve will play into that. the larger question of the entire ship building program is one

union navy to washington. she was the servant of an, confederate engineer that was taking the -- "u.s.s.merimac" and converting it to an ironclad," css virginia" it would be called. and mary louveste, or trueveste would take tease plahese plans, them to washington and turn them over to the secretary of the navy, gideon wells. gideon wells would say she encountered no small risk bringing ininformation. the confederates were 90 days ahead of schedule on their ironclad. when she brings this, the conversion of the merrimac to an ironclad. she brings the information they're 90 day as head of schedule. this prompts the union, department of the navy, to expedite the production of their own ironclad. and for that reason, the "u.s.s. monitor" was seaworthy almost 90 days ahead of schedule itself. and was able in early march of 18262, to make it down to the chesapeake to neutralize the "c.s.s. virginia." pinkerton would say what she did was critical in saving the blockade early, especially in the chesapeake. african-american informants were critical to the success of the general's earl

fact that these navy and civilian divers put their lives on the line for the benefit of new science and for at that time national security just as surely as the heroic spacemen do, but nobody cares a whit about these men. nobody even notices what they do. >> well, perhaps the navy should do oral histories as nasa's doing with space flight. since we are dealing with space flight, though, let's deal with other astronauts of the "mercury 7" group. if so -- once the telephone stops ringing, we'll pick up again. >> i was asking, let's get back on a space track. this is primarily obviously for nasa at johnson space center. oral histories there. and i was asking if you had met, had working acquaintance with any other astronaut after the "mercury 7." >> sure. and they're a highly respectable group, all of them. i really feel privileged to know these fellows as well as i did. i had a particular affection for ed white, and i hated to see what happened. he was the prince of the new guys. dave scott was a favorite of mine. but they're all highly accomplished, dedicated fellows that i was honore

the navy, vice versa. the navy is part of the game now out here in inland waters. that's brand new also. you have flag officer foote, later admiral, was in charge of the union gun boat fleet. and grant and foote fortunately had a great partnership with this. they're in full agreement. again, the study of ft. donelson, we're losing it if we're not doing it. looking at the first real joint operation here for the civil war. now, there are certain things i should caveat that. there are other operations going on, eastern seaboard, that are army/navy, but this is a great one to study here. novice armies coming together. ft. donelson is fun to study because people are making big mistakes. they're making some basic mistakes, how to handle and distribute ammunition to veteran armies later in the war will not have to deal with. you have that kind of thing going on. command and control, tactics, in big flux at this period of the war. why is ft. donelson forgotten? i mentioned before, there were bigger battles that have come up after this campaign, shiloh in particular, happened six weeks afte

navy, which each individual ship is its own -- something like 9/10 of the ships the navy wanted to build under sequester wouldn't get built. >> there is plenty of debate still ahead when they gavel back in. what are some policy issuesy think will attract the most debate? >> well, i think missile defense will continue to be an issue of debate. there will be an amendment to try to reverse what is already in the bill in regards to this east coast missile silo -- missile base that they want introduced. there's going to be debate on detainees. there's a number of amendments that will be proposed to try to either constrain how the u.s. military handles detainees. there will are others that will try to give even greater rights to people who are detained in the united states so that they are able to be prosecuted, for example, in federal courts rather than just military tribunals. that one's offered by ranking member smith from washington. so those are really going to be key fights. we're going to spend quite a bit of time on those areas. >> frank oliveri, covers defense and foreign policy

specific actions required to enhance and standardize performance across the army. the navy and marine corps added ten doctors and 37 case managers to the medical evaluation board staff this year and anticipate 23 more doctors next year. physical evaluation board staffs increased in navy and marine corps by 47% allowing them to process 75% of the navy and 69% of the marine cases through this particular phase in less than the 120-day phase goal. the air force started to utilize air force national guard personnel to support the evaluation process and establish a preidez screening process to increase efficiency. they have removed policy impetments. examples include, reducing minimum and formal physical evaluation board staffing requirements from three members to two members. authorizing psychologists to sign medical evaluation boards. prior, they were not able to. allowing military departments to process initial trainees through the legacy system. addition nally, d.o.d. is working with the v.a. partners to improve the execution by training case management software, implementing a c

of war and a new secretary of the navy. republicans, a bipartisan cabinet and absolutely adamantly opposed to any activity that will advance negros through the rank s simson says leadership i not embedded in the negro race. he's secretary of the war. the secretary of the navy cox -- i mean knox, says he will resign if, in fact this happens. so what does fdr do? he brings the dean of the howard law school in to be stemson's aide. he reports an african-american colonel to advise selective service and the firsten fr african-american general to ride rupp shod on them. the big obstacle is george marshall. if you look at who will block a lot of stuff. marshall is the one that says come down, not on my watch, we've got to win the war. eleanor works to help get the 99th squadron, the tuskegee airmen through. she worked to have african-american women, who want to become waves and nurses do this. there is a riot in this. eleanor goes to the city the night after the riots to try and calm things down. stays with the waves and insists, in fact, that the swimming pools they are in to train in be

if -- if the department of defense were tightly focused on raising up an army, a navy and air force, clearly, just focused on just that mission and not expanding it to move the country forward and in energy independence. i do see at the commander in chief has put forth, the president has, in his directive through secretary salazar full moratorium on coastal virginia energy, despite the expressed will of the governor, myself, representing the coast of virginia, and the house of delegates state senate full moratorium on coastal energy. 18,000 jobs are being held up because of this, and, really, are holding up our ability to become energy independent and i really think the president is off on the wrong track on that. so if we really are concerned about reducing dependence on forring sources of energy we ought to start with just our own domestic supplies as well. so for those reasons i'll be supporting the gentleman's amendment and i encourage my colleagues to do the same. >> gentleman yields back. if there's no further discussion on the amendment, the questions on the adoption of the a

politics. yes, sir. >> when henry fell, the navy took henry. the army hadn't got there yet. with belmont and with seeing columbus, shouldn't the navy have anticipated more elevation of their guns? >> yeah, probably. >> you know, because that was -- that was a major problem for them. >> yeah, it was. the gun boat design was interesting. the gun boats were designed for antiship operations. >> right. >> so, the guns have trouble elevating. >> right. >> yeah, they probably should have. but they didn't have much intelligence here at ft. henry or ft. donelson. they knew of their existence. ft. donelson -- even today people have trouble spelling the name, for pete's sake. i still get ft. donaldson, i get e-mails like that. so, yeah, they probably -- in hindsight, they should have. but there's a couple things working on -- i'll counter that argument with the shooting -- of not being able to shoot high enough. on the river here, most of the shots were overshot. so, they were able to elevate. but what you have on the gun boats here, here at the time on floodwaters, very choppy, the boat's bouncing

new secretary of war and a new secretary of the navy. they're republicans, it's supposed to be a bipartisan cabinet. and they are absolutely adamantly opposed to any activity that will advance negros through the ranks. simpson says leadership is not embedded in the negro race. he's secretary of war. the secretary of the navy knox says he will resign if in fact this happens. what does fdr do? he brings the dean of the law school to be simpson's aide. he appoints a colonel to advise the african-american colonel to advise the selective service. and he gives simpson, the first african-american general to, in fact, ride sort of roughshod on them. the big obstacle in this, however, is george marshall. if you're go to look who's going to block a lot of stuff, fdr doesn't push hard but marshall says not on my watch. we got to win the war. eleanor works to have the 99th squadron, the tuskegee airmen through. she works to have african-american women who want to become nurses do this. there's a riot in that. eleanor goes to the city the night after the riot to calm things down. stays with t

at the navy department who is a friend of william thesenden some money so he would keep his mouth shut. a complicated deal. but he then says so i'll pay him out of my share unless you want me to -- unless you're willing to do it. so blaine, who claimed not to have been involved at all was up to his hips. and it was hugely scandalous, but problem for grant at the end of his second term. >> i was wondering what convinced the europeans to stop moving it for negotiated settlement. >> the europeans were right at the door and ultimately, i would say it was three fold, their decision to stay out. number one, france very much wanted to interview because the emperor of france was trying to re-establish a french empire in north america. he had troops it in mexico. he was about to install a puppet ruler of mexico. and the confederacy was promising we could do a lot of nice things together. we can make beautiful music together here in the southern half of north america. but he didn't want to get in unless the british were going to get in, too, and make take joint project. you probably know wh

. when i came to washington out of the navy in 1957, eisenhower administration, we were spending 10% of our gross domestic product on defense, same thing true in the kennedy administration, the johnson administration, and today i think we're spending about 4.5 or 4.6% of our gdp, so anyone would suggest that the debt that we're facing and the crushing deficits are a result of the pentagon or the defense department are simply not looking at the facts. it is all in entitlements because we actually as a share of gdp we are half of where we were back in the '50s, '60s, and in that period. in any event, the work was put in and during the end of the ford administration and thanks to the later the reagan administration, the kinds of investment that were needed were actually achieved although the four years of the carter administration actually reduced defense capability during that period. a third thing i am not going to get into extensively and is libertarianism. i guess we all wish we could live in a world where we could all be libertarians and have a small federal government. but unfortunat

april lincoln calls for the 75,000 volunteers. 19th of april lincoln calls for the federal navy, the u.s. navy to blockade all southern ports. that, by the way, is when he recognizes the union. you can't blockade your own country, right? so by doing that he actually recognizes the existence of those southern states as a foreign country. he was actually furious about that one, that his advisors didn't correct him before he did that, but, all right, 19th of april, 1861, lincoln says the u.s. navy will blockade all of those southern ports. nothing goes in, nothing comes out. any of that money from cotton, any of that money from trade, we're not going to let those southern states benefit. we won't let those southern states get support from foreign countries, weapons, money, anything. the idea is we're going to cut the south off. that's when you're going to see more and more of these divisions, when that upper south will not contribute to the 75,000 and where a lot of people are going to have to decide who they are going to side with, okay? robert e. lee, the guy in the bottom left-hand corne

the navy used african-americans in that capacity. we know that. sherman writes about that in receiving messages from david porter from african-americans coming in with them written. so it's oral, it's written. it's really the full gambit of what's used in that day except for the telegraph. how, -- however, delaney would use the telegraph because what could be talking to them and they were using telegram. >> this picture of lincoln signing the emancipation and sitting with henry william stewart, there's an empty chair behind stewart. this past weekend, i visited the gravesite in dorchester county on the eastern shore of maryland of the lady by the name of anna carroll. that is supposed to be her chair. she was supposed to have been a military strategist who went down the tennessee river and helped map out a strategy for taking vicksburg. i learned this weekend by looking at that painting and also by seeing some letters written by her and by lincoln that that empty chair was her chair. and that she was taken out of the picture because she was a woman. and that they believed tha

of details on them, just like anna stokes the african-american woman in the navy that applied. she was legally in, so she had no problems getting her pension actually. but the actual number, no, i would love to see some research. also i'd like to see the model. how you would come about researching that. i would love to see how you do that and i would want to work with somebody who wants to do that. >> what was the question? >> how many women actually disguised themselves as men and fought.

artillery to the navy or to charleston -- the defenses to charleston. whether a captain wanted to transfer from virginia to the mississippi valley, whether it should be given him. he looked at these kinds of things. davis quite simply was his own secretary of war. he did have men, all but one quite able, in that position. he did not create areas of responsibility for them, nor did he delegate authority to them. he wished for their advice. he liked to talk to them, and they recount lengthy conversations with him about all kinds of military matters. but he made the decisions. although directives that left richmond carried various signatories, sent them to the secretary of war, all the decisions were made by jefferson davis. running the war office or the high command, jefferson davis was definitely a micromanager. yet. yet he did not deal with his generals in the field in the same manner at all. yes, he appointed the general officers that commanded his army, but once he put them in place he rarely told them what to do. his approach was sharply different. june of 1861, general joseph

leaders. the navy believes it's constructive. but when it comes to ceding american sovereignty to the internna

noncommissioned officer of the year jessica davila, all members of the navy ceremonial guard drill team and five members of the army's third infantry and the senior military fellows of the atlantic council. all men and women in the audience. please rise now and be recognized. [ applause ] >> i thank senator hagel for saluting our atlantic council directors and staff, senior yell fel lows and interns for a remarkable performance. but i would like them all to stand because you're the ones who do the work. you're the best team in washington at what you do. thank you so much for your work. last year and this is is just a year's time, the council launched the center for the middle east, which already has a leading voice on the historic upheaval sweeping the middle east and north africa. one of the greatest challenges facing the transarthritic community today. i want to salute the founder of that who is in our audience tonight, baja hariri. please stand. thank you. last december the council honored our board chairman for his unparalleled life of leadership and achievement at a dinner to raise support

increases in the navy and air force active duty strength. he also called for the activation of some reservists and the extension of tours of duty for soldiers, sailors and airmen scheduled to leave the service in the near future. finally, the president postponed programs to retire or mothball older ships and aircraft and delay the deactivation of a number of b-47 bomber and arial refueling wings. shortly thereafter, secretary of defense mcnamara announced that 50% of the strategic air commands bomber wings would be placed on 15-minute ground alert and three of the army's divisions in the united states would be relieved of training duties and prepare for emergency deployment to europe. meanwhile, the situation in berlin continued to deteriorate. soviet and east german soldiers increased the harassment of u.s. vehicles and trains trying to enter the city and periodically renewed attempts to conduct unauthorized inspections of allied vehicles as they crossed checkpoints into and out of berlin. soviets tried to institute new restrictions on flights approaching the city, while allowing t

secretary of war. the secretary of the navy says he will revine if this happens. he brings the dean of the law school to be simpson's aide. he appoints a colnel to advise the selective service. and he gives simpson, the first african-american general to, in fact, ride on them. the big obstacle is george marshall. and fdr doesn't push hard. but marshall is the one that comes down and says not on my watch. we got to win the war. eleanor works to have african-american women who wants become nurses do this. eleanor goes to the city the night after the riot to calm things down. she insists the training pools be integrated. so they can have the same training as the white counter parts. probably the case in history where the government imprisons people based on race and ethnicity. >> i wouldn't say it's the first time. i would say it's a major time. there's no doubt in my mind that fdr considered the emergency of wartime overroad civil protections. there's just no doubt in my mind about this. this was a decision greatly opposed in the administration. eleanor, for one, strongly opposed it. as did

mcnamara went to the cno operations center, and asked what the navy was doing, admiral anderson said, why don't you just leave and let me run this operation. and i think that speaks for itself. had subordinates of admiral anderson said that of him, dismissal would have been the least of the consequences. did mcnamara occasionally tangle with individual military people? in many ways, i think his arguments with general may, under whom he had served during world war ii, were more consequential and more substantive. but in the end, secretary of defense in the chain of command has as his function not to be popular among his subordinates, but to do the right thing. >> over there? >> thank you. we've talked about a rational budgeting process. one of mcnamara's claim to fame. i'm wondering if any of the panelists, secretary brown more than others, can the current date, china spending 5.5% of the global share of military expenditures, and the u.s. spending $739 billion, 45.7% of the global share. so how do i, a concerned citizen, think about that? and, you know, the process of what's rational

. >> economically viable, then our fleet will be ready to go and we're proceeding with that. >> also from the navy perspective, if i remember reading a report, one of your big concerns, that's why you have climate changes is if you have a change in water levels, sea levels, it has a direct impact on all of your ports. >> certainly true. >> am i mistaken there? >> certainly true. >> we invested billions in these ports around the country and around the world and it is in our interest to make sure if there is -- we can argue over the science and all that far and i am not going to no disrespect to my folk that is do the weather on tv but i prefer to put all of that side. the fact is we're having changes and you from that administration are looking at those as infrastructure cost potentially. is that a fair statement? >> i think that's fair that some are looking at that and we're also looking in relation to the arctic about what are the future challenges up there as that opens up and as we focus similar to the air force, you know, we're operating and certifying alternative fuels for our ships and

taken several years ago where one day out of the blue i get a call from the united states navy. the united states navy asks me would i be interested in flying out to the uss truman aircraft carrier, at that time patrolling the eastern mediterranean, and give a lecture on the history of the u.s./israel relationship. i thought about this for maybe a quarter of a second and i said are you kidding? of course i want to do this. so one day they brought me out to an airfield outside of tel aviv. there was a prop plane, a naval prop plane there. they strapped me in, put a helmet on me. we went airborne and no one bothered to tell me that this aircraft was going to go from about 188 miles an hour to 0 in less than one second when it landed on the truman. when i landed, i thought we had crashed because i was here, my eyeballs were somewhere over there and i don't recommend you ever do this. they thought it was very funny. it wasn't. but when i emerged from this aircraft, there was this floating american island somewhere between the island of rhodes and the coast of turkey, 5200 crew members and offi

palmerston was a very old man by this time. he loved to fight wars and sent the british navy around the world to intervene all over the place. he was happy to intervene in little wars. he learned things about war and when he saw what happened first at shiloh where in two days, more americans were killed than in all the battles ever fought in north america prior to the weekend. then what happened at gains mill and incredible slaughter. the bloodiest single day in american history. he looked at that and basically said those people are crazy. he walked into the cab ned and said the third years war was a joke compared to this. if we think we are going to sail over and break them up, we are nuts. and lincoln and his secretary of state were very keen to this. he sent a letter to the ambassador and said you lead them know, they are looking at a war of the world. not a world war. that had not been coined. one of the earliest uses was a war of the world if they try to get in the middle of this. so those were the three factors. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. . >> these folks have a mem

collapsed with the napoleon's defeat at the battle of denial where nelson defeated and destroyed the navy. but up to that point, that's what led the federalists to take the steps they did. the alien setician act. the steps that in retrospect seem excessive to us and to some people at the time. evan hamilton thought the sedition act went too far. but you have to understand the fear that these people had. i think the goal of the historian is not to take sides decide, well, the federalists were right or the republicans were right. but rather to explain why people thought as they did and acted as they did. and in this case, there were legitimate fears on both sides. >> there's also at that time which must have added to the disquiet if not to the fear, there's a social change that's going on as people figure out what this new political system means and what it's -- its ramifications are. i love it when you or any historian highlights a story that is unfamiliar, and it may involve a familiar person but it just throws a light on something. and one of my favorites in this book involves john rutledge w

. relations with alli allies. >>> the u.s. navy says an amphibious assault ship collided. a third fleet statement says the collision between the assault ship and the oiler occurred at mid morning today approximately 128 miles off southern california. >>> and here in the nation's capitol american police officers can wear the turbines and flowing beards associated with their religion. they know of no other major metropolitan police department with a written order assuring they can maintain their appearance. change may have not much effect right away because the only officer is a reserve scheduled to graduate in august. the special order allows them to tie beards in a knot and tuck it underneath their chin. the turbines are supposed to match the color of the department issued caps which are blue and display the same badge as seen on the caps. back in one minute with more. >>> jane is our guest this friday on c-span radio. discusses his book, peace, they say. the most famous and controversial prize in the world. >> it was to honor the u.n. but they were saying they were admonishing th

naval secrets and force them to go back to china to be part of the chinese navy, nobody would think that's sensible. but that's exactly what we're doing. over half of the people getting ph.d.s at carnegie mellon, stanford, m.i.t., half are from other parts of the world and once they get the education we kick them out all too often. those are job creators because they are the innovators that are building this momentum around innovation and job creation. >> i think that most people would probably agree that they would love to see, you know, highly skilled, well-trained, educated immigrants come here and be able to stay. what you hear from people in congress, though, is it's completely unrealistic just to be able to solve that piece of the immigration problem without solving the bigger piece. >> yeah. i don't -- there's something a little bit off pitch, i think, about focusing so much on high tech and silicon valley and high education. i'm an educator, so i feel uncomfortable saying those things. but i think talking about 19th century america, which is a remarkable story that actually

we'll be back for you. the town becomes known as navi da d, christmas, and columbus with the nina and the pinta returns to spain. this is columbus returning to spain to visit the court, ferdinand and isabella receiving the admiral of the ocean seas. this is his greatest moment because it is at this moment that everyone believes he's found the route to the east. now, it is a little disappointing when he brings back coconuts, rare tropical birds, kidnapped a few natives, and it is a little disappointing but, don't worry, don't worry, send me back, and send me back and i will find the court of the great kahn, so he makes a second voyage. on his second voyage he returns again. this is getting to be a little disappointing now. wait a minute. you have been out there twice now. he comes back, and you still haven't given us any evidence that you have discovered the route to the east. again, tropical birds and exotic plants, that sort of thing and where is the gold? where is the silk? given a coats for his accomplishments, he is the admiral of the ocean sea. this is the coat of arms. the l

. i had been a combat veteran for two and a half years. he was in the pacific as a navy officer. you know what? looking back on that -- he was only like 60 years old when he took that job. but i thought he was like 93. i look at the pictures. my dad was only 21 years older than me.e pacifi i always referred to him -- even in private conversationsmy d to this day, either mr. ford when he was in congress or mr. vice president or mr. president. he never said you can call me jerry. i would never have dreamed of doing it.in con it was formal to the degree i y. had respect for my elders. 60 years old is nothing now. i think that was it. we hit it off. it was the kind of relationshipe you can't explain. you couldn't create that kind of relationship.. each white house photographer -- by the way, those were terrific photos because you get a sense of who they are, and that's why we're there. you're right. we're kind of the eyes in the e situation where you can't go normally. bring hopefully we bring a true picture back. that didn't answer your question entirely. but needless to say, i was in t

the place. cernen is going down like this. and, of course, being a good navy-trained pilot, he knew how to cope with, you know, being under water, so he got out and he swam to the top and realized he was in fire, so he splashed around like this and took a deep breath and swam a while and came up and splashed around some more and swam a while. finally got out of the smoke and flames and all that stuff. somebody -- somebody had seen the crash obviously and, of course, the banana river, you know, isn't that big a deal. but he came on the shore. came out, and there he was. and just totally bedraggled, so he looks at me as my backup pilot and said, okay, shepard, you win, you get to go. >> alan, you're now on the moon. you've gotten there on "apollo 14." and i wonder what the feelings were and -- >> you got to let me tell the story about how i got there? >> oh, yes, of course. >> well, actually, the flight had gone extremely well. we had one or two problems. docking problem earlier. a problem with the -- something floating around in the abort switch, which closed, made as if we were push