bill clinton, 66%. so you talked earlier about the positives versus the negatives of having a bill clinton on your side. are there really any negatives when you look at that? everybody loves him. well, not everybody, but 66%, right? >> 66% and overwhelmingly democrats, look at this, look at independent voters, the ones that everybody says are so important and can sway the election. look at this, two-thirds of independents, 67%, say they have a favorable opinion of him. only one in three unfavorable. those are the kind of numbers you want when you have a surrogate with you, no doubt about it. you saw george bush, 43% favorable, the only living ex-president under 50. >> we'll still see bill clinton? >> he's already done a bunch of fund -- he did three fund-raisers for the president earlier this week. you'll see plenty of bill clinton between now and november 6th. >> about the money as well, right? raise some cash. paul steinhauser, life ve in washington for us, thank you. >>> big story that has been brewi

that's bill clinton at his best. that's him communicating in a very real way. some things that people kind of think but want to hear from someone like bill clinton. he says that stuff really well. he says it in some ways, better than obama can. obviously, obama can't really say all the struggles he's up against. it makes him sound like he's complaining but bill clinton can and that's the exact amessage that the obama campaign wants. >> thank you both very much for going me tonight. >>> coming up, the latest on tonight's vote in wisconsin. governor scott walker and lieutenant governor rebecca klefish, both rupps, have held on to their seats. are so amazi, you'll get lost in an all-beef hot dog world. what was i supposed to wish for? why am i wearing a bow-tie? where did i leave my bicycle? after all, when you're enjoying the beefiest, juciest bite of pure kosher beef, nothing else matters. goodness gracious, that's kosher. with no fillers, by-products, artificial flavors or colors. hebrew national. the better-than-a-hot dog- hot dog. ♪ what started as a whispe

they should listen to bill clinton. he was the president in the early '90s who said we have to do something about the deficits and it's going to mean the well think will have to pay more. not one republican supported him he went and got it down and we had a decade of growth and expansion. two unfunded wars an unfunded tax cuts and they left for this president a huge deficits and an economic crisis. so they should listen to president clinton. he was right back in the '90s. he's right now. we should be investing in education and research and development and energy and the kinds of things that will grow our economy, not going back to the policies of the last decade. >> but did he cause your campaign, the re-election campaign some heartburn by suggesting that mitt romney's sterling reputation at ban capital coming off the heels of the ads. >> the question he answered, wolf, is he qualified. no one is doubting that mitt romney is qualified to be president. the question is, is he qualified himself to call himself a job creato

the same argument that former president bill clinton making. >> obviously bill clinton gets it. >> bill clinton's remarks. >> even bill clinton came out for it, before he was against it. >> yesterday, president clinton seemed to agree. arguing we should act now. not after the elections, to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> well, i happen to think president clinton right on the money. isn't it time to fix the fiscal tax cliff, get business some certainty, and stave off recession? here now, house members peter welch, democrat from vermont. and nan hayworth from new york. by the way, at this point, half the major opinion makers in the democratic party agree with the getting rid of the tax cliff and disagree with their own president, peter. >> well, there was picking and choosing among the republican leaders delighted to hear tax cut on president clinton's lips. he clarified that, number one. number two, i think what we need to do is what president clinton did, a balanced approach. his budget vote that he won by one vote, raised taxes and it lowered spending. a balanced approach. led to $20 millio

is bill clinton magnificently conflicted because he's bill clinton? would he also like to see his wife get elected some day? yes. but not at the expense of defeating barack obama, i don't believe that for a second. >> howard dean and howard fineman, the two howards. thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks a lot. >>> coming up, mitt romney's new neighbors in california are worried that his rebuilding his beachhouse and having secret service crawling all over the place will ruin the neighborhood. two of mitt romney's new neighbors a gay couple he has not yet met, will join me tonight. >>> and in the rewrite, what mitt romney did during the war of his era, vietnam, the story of mitt romney and the draft and muhammad ali and the draft. and me and the draft. that's coming up. [ male announcer ] if paula ebert had her way, she would help her child. go! goooo! [ male announcer ] with everything. but instead she gives him capri sun super-v. with one combined serving of fruits and vegetables. new capri sun super-v. holding down the

speaking of bill clinton, bill clinton says he will support hillary if she runs. the democrats could have their strongest field ever. andrew cuomo, martin, o'mally, and joe biden are all runners. and mitt romney still doesn't know if he supports the pay act. dude you don't understand, this is my dad's car. look at the car! my dad's gonna kill me dude... [ male announcer ] the security of a 2012 iihs top safety pick. the volkswagen passat. that's the power of german engineering. >>> tomorrow, the senate will vote on the paycheck fairness act. here is president obama pushing for passage of the bill on a conference call this afternoon. >> congress has to step up and do its job. if congress passes the paycheck fairness act, women are going to have access to more tools to claim equal pay for equal work. if they don't, if congress doesn't act, then women are still going to have difficulty enforcing and pressing for this basic principle. >> mitt romney's position on the paycheck fairness act is pure romney. it is nonexistent. the romney campaign is refusing to say whethe

bill clinton notwithstanding. momentum carried through in the stock market, the dow snapped a four-day losing streak. let's talk. we have michael lozanian, "forbes magazine" executive editor and managing director at lazard capital markets. i think the ism services, i don't want to get bogged down in this, but we needed a decent, better than expected number. did it stabilize the stock market at least for awhile? >> it sure did. i think one of the things we weren't used to coming into this month, and certainly for the month of may, was bad economic data out of the u.s. that's what caught us by surprise. i think we're used to bad news out of europe, certainly used to being concerned about the fiscal cliff but we weren't used to the pace at which we slowed down the economy. >> i think for three months, we have had lousy economic numbers, surprised everybody, and that is the backbone of this stock market correction. now, you, michael, are saying the dow jones is going to 11,000, if i read the numbers correct? it closed

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i have deep respect for bill clinton. they should listen to bill clinton. bill clinton was the president in the early '90s who said we have to do something about the deficits and it will mean the wealthy will have to pay a little more and not one republican in congress supported him and he got it done. we were left in a surplus and in the next decade we had two unfunded wars and a medicaid prescription program and they left for this president, huge deficits and an economic crisis. they should listen to president clinton. he was right back in the '90s and we should be investing in education, research and development and energy and the kinds of things that will grow our economy, not going back to the policies of the last decade. >> but did he cause the re-election campaign some heartburn by suggesting that mitt romney's sterling reputation at bain capital coming on the heels of those ads. >> the question he's answered, wolf, is he qualified? >> he's call qualified to be president. is he qualified to call himself the economic oracle that he does. when you run

bill clinton, big bill himself, one and only bubba, was out on the town last night serenading manhattan on the reasons barack obama absolutely needs to get reelected. he hit every note, most of them never heard before, about how the republicans in congress are nuts enough to do what old europe is doing. cutting spending. killing jobs. running austerity and their

you will not want to miss maria's big interview with former bill clinton. may earnings out after the bell. how is the housing market doing? we'll find out coming up on the "closing bell." >> announcer: the future of the economy -- >> what i think we need to do is find some way to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> announcer: a crisis in europe. >> should the imf, u.s. taxpayer money, help to bailout europe right now? >> i don't know that it's needed. >> announcer: the presidential election -- >> the most important thing in this election is what will president obama do and what would governor romney do with the economy? >> announcer: bill clinton weighs in on those hot button issues and a whole lot more in a first on cnbc interview with our maria bartiromo. it all begins on this special edition of the "closing bell." >> and it is 4:00 on wall street. do you know where your money is? i'm maria bartiromo. we're moments away from my first on cnbc interview with bill clinton. you won't want to miss what he had to say about the looming fiscal cliff and how to jump-start

that's bill clinton at his best. that's him communicating in a very real way. some things that people kind of think but want to hear from someone like bill clinton. he says that stuff really well. he says it in some ways, better than obama can. obviously, obama can't really say all the struggles he's up against. it makes him sound like he's complaining but bill clinton can and that's the exact amessage that the obama campaign wants. >> thank you both very much for going me tonight. >>> coming up, the latest on tonight's vote in wisconsin. governor scott walker and lieutenant governor rebecca klefish, both rupps, have held on to their seats. [ male announcer ] this is corporate caterers, miami, florida. in here, great food demands a great presentation. so at&t showed corporate caterers how to better collaborate by using a mobile solution, in a whole new way. using real-time photo sharing abilities, they can create and maintain high standards, from kitchen to table. this technology allows us to collaborate with our drivers to make a better experience for our cust

. >> bill clinton making news as mr. obama's numbero uno surrogate. >> i don't have any problem extending all of it now. is it the news the obama campaign was hoping for? >> he's a double agent. >> the new york times publishes stories based on high level leaks, details which could put our nation at risk and congress wants it to stop. >> and there's been just a cascade of leaks coming out of the intelligence community over the last several weeks and it's our clear intention to put a stop to this. >> who is behind the leaks and should the press play along? barbara walters, the grand dame at abc, gets, syria assad, paying back the favor for one of his former aides. what's wrong with that. >> pomp and celebration for queen elizabeth and loyal subjects honor her jubilee, did one network go overboard on the coverage? >> on the panel, fox news writer judy miller. and monica crowley, jim pinkerton, and host of the alan colmes radio talk show, alan colmes, i'm jon scott, fox news watch is on right now. nbc news has been character

>> bill clinton always makes good. yes, i think there's no one better to be delivering this message than bill clinton. i think americans still have some no, sir willing stalgia fon years. he's a good reminder for everything that came after him. anytime obama talks about bush it seems as though he's ceding responsibility. bill clinton is in a power position to talk about the pact we've tried republican economic policies, we've seen the results. >> is this a risk/reward, are the republicans had such a field day, they enjoyed using bill clinton friday and over the weekend, and then, hey, be careful what you wish for because bill clinton will come back. he was sort of, is on as you can be as an obama surrogate, i think, last night. >> he was but, you know, bill clinton's fun to watch. this was clearly penance, you know, let's not joke about it. >> he even said it himself, let me make something clear. you don't say that unless you feel as if you needed to claer t clear the air. >> he had to do this. the fact is bill clinton

clinton said, as bill clinton said, as bill clinton said, and now the romney campaign set up a romney twitter account at billclinton, underscore -- how potent it is. >> also said the economy is in a recession which is not technically true and certainly not the message the obama people want and twitter, really, these big new media companies, god bless them. sure have a lot of power. the idea they get to decide whether you are you're allowed to make fun of a former president. >> backers, maybe, that's like connecting dots that maybe don't exist. >> in 2004 bill clinton published his book during the campaign. 2008, people with, hillary's campaign, thought we should send bill clinton to africa. she doing damage to us. get him out of the country. the president, god bless bill clinton, we all love him, but he has a very conflicted relationship with president obama. this part of it secretly on some weird, profound level that wants obama to lose so then he can have like, the legacy of the best democratic president post-world war ii and i think that's part of it. >> on that ego level, bill cli

bill clinton will be on the stump for wisconsin. basically pulling what's being referred to as a corey booker. veering off message and calling bane sterling. how hard is it to keep the campaign on message? especially when bill clinton is going to take to the air waves and say he had a good business record. it usually leads to you pulling hair out. i think there's a problem with the obama campaign. when you step back and think about this message about private equity versus the president's approach these are very two different visions about the role of government can and should be. this notion doesn't fly for one simple reason. you don't look at it that way. you invest in government in the future. you wouldn't have the hoover dam. you wouldn't have the interstate highway system. this is not about investing for the quarter. but at the end of the day, for whatever reason, some of the surrogates aren't getting the message across as clear and crisp as they could. >> let's ask about what romney said asking to grade the president's first te

similarly, bill clinton is undermining him every day. bill clinton says we are in a recession. bill clinton says we need the bush tax cuts. bill clinton is praising romney. >> labor's not angry with the president -- >> yes, they are! >> sean: yes, they are. >> he wouldn't guarantee that they will support a democrat because they are a democrat -- >> everybody said -- me too, i am going to run to romney over this. that's what we are going to do ooh first sensible thing have you said since i met you. >> look, 69% of the people who voted-- >>> voted -- are you better off than you were four years ago? >> 69% of the people of wisconsin didn't think there should be a recall or-- >>> okay, we have to take a break -- >> or it should be for misconduct. >> sean: wait until you hear what ed rendell had to say. this is great stuff. this is piling on. all the democrats piling on, except you trip py. you are -- trippi, you are going down with a sinking ship. ♪ hallelujah ♪ hallelujah [ baby crying, dog barking ] [ female announcer ] it doesn't have to be thanksgiving to have the perfect t

and when bill clinton gets out there and makes your opponent look worthy and noble and you look kind of like, who is this guy? oh, yeah, he's the president. i think that bill clinton is so powerful in democratic circles that even in the press conference on friday, president obama still had to pay homage to bill clinton by framing the economic choice the nation faces, citing clinton. i think that's an amazing tribute to the powers of the man. >> somebody can write a book about how much bill clinton hates barack obama. wait, ed klein already wrote that. >> it hasn't been covered-- >> do you believe the stuff in the book. really believe. >> you know the clinton maneuver. clinton has been passive-aggressive when it comes to big rivals and with this case with barack obama, he loathes him so much,'s doubling down on aggressiveness and saying that the u.s. economy is in recession and that's to me the biggest-- >> and divide and conquer, divide and conquer, bill clinton never said the tax cuts could be permanent and immediate why went totally wrong and went with the headline with wnbc, said

put your best foot forward. >> bill clinton does not want bam -- barack obama to win. vispoken to friends who are staunch conservatives who have had a lot of exchanges with bill clinton in private. at one point, one of them quotes him as saying, you have six months to save the country. >> sean: it looks like dick morris may have been on to something here on this program. days after former president bill clinton bashed president obama's attacks on bain capital and praised mitt romney's career. the former president struck again, going against a major pillar of the economic agenda, ending the bush-era tax cuts. let's take a look. >> what i think we need to do is to find some way to avoid the fiscal -- to avoid doing anything to contract the economy now. and then deal with what is necessary in the long-term debt reduction plan, as soon as they can. which presumably will be after the election. >> does that mean extenning the tax cut? >> lithink what it means is theyville to extend... they will probably have to put everything off until early next year. that's probably the be

if he continues not listening to bill clinton, that's great for me because my guys know bill clinton is a very powerful weapon for president obama. >> i'd like to agree with ford examine say small businesses are integral to this economy. 60% of american jobs are created by small businesses. but they have to compete with these corporations that pay zero dollars in taxes in many cases. you just can't compete when there is not a level playing field. that's what the kind of business that mitt romney supports. >> ryan, we agree on fox news that we're -- >> excuse me. he made millions shutting down factories and shipping jobs oversea. >> rick: i got to let you. >> i think we can agree on this, if we can close some of the loopholes and bring search to the tax code, businesses in america will thrive again and i think mitt romney right now is making a better case than president obama. >> rick: ryan, here is another point we could all agree on and that is that this has been a lousy week for the president. it's been a lousy couple of weeks, starting with the jobs numbers, the dueling presidents

bill clinton's agenda is bill clinton's. let's understand that he's never going to be out there primarily for somebody else. he's always going to be thinking first of himself but he just needs a little more discipline and to realize that his best interests, hillary's best interests are served by furthering barack obama's best interests and he needs to just fight e tighten it ul -- up a little bit. >> yesterday was the anniversary of your father's passing. we have a picture of your mom visiting the ronald reagan library. it's a beautiful and poignant picture. how is your family reflecting on your father's legacy? >> well, my mother goes out every year to the library and visits with him on the anniversary of his death and everybody in the family of course takes a moment and expends some thought on that and remembers him. it's, you know, it's one of those things. he lived a good long life. we miss him but that's just the way it is, that's the way life is. >> and your mom's doing well? >> she's doing well. she's quite feisty at

when bill clinton was able to ride the recovery economy and bob dole never had a chance. mitt romney's not going to be the same way. he's got a chance now. he's not going to be the bob dole falling off a stage a the end of a campaign that never got any traction. what romney's team senses is that they have a chance to win something. jonathan martin had a great piece last week and members on capitol hill, republicans on capitol hill who were buying into this campaign and believe they have a chance to knock off a sitting democratic president. >> david, is the obama campaign getting very nervous? because what they say officially is this is what we expected. at this point in the campaign that this was going to be a dead heat an a tough campaign. >> they can say that, but we know what they expected the economy to look like in january 2009, february 2009. republicans never let them forget. the charts they made. projecting what unemployment might be. so now, this is not the economy they wanted the run with. talking about the national unemployment rate, i don't see a scenario wher

clinton should come from the south. >> bill clinton was a rhodes scholar. >> john edwards is kmart. he is very self very self invol. when i told him not to run in 2003, he said i will never forget, even on my death bed, what you have done to me and my family. it was an extraordinary statement. >> he does have a sense of his own power. >> on his death bed, really. >> sadly he is in the dark valley, i'm glad he was not convicted because his family has been through a lot of tragedy. >> thank you very much, the great avenger. joan, i love it when you're simp thetic to the beautiful young men of the world. wait until you hear about donald rumsfeld. he is back. i would say president obama has a slightly better foreign policy track record than rummy, that's in the side show. i should be arrested for crimes against potted plant-kind. [ clang ] my house is where plants came to die. ♪ but, it turns out all i was missing was miracle-gro potting mix. it's got what a plant needs. even plant food that feeds them for up to 6 months. you get bigger, more beautiful plants. guaranteed. who's got tw

bill clinton takes issue. you don't think we ought to get in the position where we say this is bad work. this is good work. >> off message big-time. it is more complicated than that. much more complicated. president clinton wants president obama to win. he made that clear repeatedly in that interview. if you know him and talk to people he talks to privately, something else is clear. he thinks attacking romney's business record is a losing strategy. for two reasons. go back to clinton's inaugural. don't stop thinking about tomorrow. he believes that politicians that look in the rear-view mirror are playing a losing hand. >> the real issue ought to be what has governor romney advocated in the campaign that he will do as president? what has president obama done and what does he propose to do? >> what we saw on the praise of romney's business record was bill clinton's dna, a defining characteristic. he helped form the leadership counsel in the mid 1980s. after walter mondale lost 49 states. clinton as his leader,

that's bill clinton's dna when it comes to politics. remember where fom a arks go a o of e fs of the democrac leadership council and said it was too much about taxes and spending and too cose wet unions and too hostile with business, and when you heard about it th the business career, and don't beat up on big business, and it is business that creates jobs and if you go back and look at the speech, as governor and as president, he was going to be a new and different democrat. he made clear he supports president obama, and one of his worries is under the obama administration, including with the congressional leadership the party started to drift too far back to the left. he's worried about that. >> all of us remember the '96 re-election campaign when he engaged in what the strategists called triangulation and trying to get the position in the far left and the far right, triangulating himself in the center. is that what's going on right now? >> that is part of it. bill clinton fundamentally thinks it is a bad idea especially when you're tr

this is who bill clinton is. barack obama has been criticized a lot by those who elected him and hoped he would be more aggressive going after wall street and financial wrong-doing. what you see here is the daylight between him and bill clinton. bill clinton defending private equity and the bush tax cuts. that is who bill clinton is. he was the candidate of wall street and gave us larry summers and bob ruben and planted the seats that imploded the economy. this is not out of character for him. this is core to him. he continues to be a big fund-raiser for his own charities. who gives to the charities? major wealthy americans and corporations. he is in a way speaking to that crowd and defending their right to do what they do. >> she doing what the american people want. he is reaching across the aisle and obama could learn a lesson or two from clinton. that is the biggest harm. he is making obama look small. >> he is you should cutting and the comments on bain. >> he was right. >> regardless of whether you think he

bill clinton. >> three years from now, five years from now, we need to bring this deficit down when the economy grows because then you'll have the private markets needing capital and if the government is taken so much of it to finance the debt, interest rates will go through the roof. so the trick is to promote growth now while they are literally zero. >> announcer: but, first, before we go to break, "the dividend." which tech stock is this year's outperformer? intel, microsoft, oracle? the dividend pays off after the break break a passionate belief and the foundation on which merrill lynch has been built. today, our financial advisors lead from a new position of strength. together with bank of america, they have access to more resources than ever before. a steadfast commitment to help you achieve your financial goals in life. that's the power of the right advisor. that's merrill lynch. >> announcer: just before the break we asked you which tech stock is this year's outperformer. now the payoff. mi

to raise some money and one of the guys says who is bill clinton? at this meeting. governor of arkansas. he's -- may run for president. he said i'm a republican. he's a democrat? and then somebody says, this is like five or six weeks -- somebody says i'm listening to this, somebody says what, this is crazy he says. nobody ever heard of this guy. i mean, how are we going to raise money for this guy. this is nuts. only because the goldman partner asked him to come. some governor from arkansas. and i get agitated at this point. i say, this is what you're going to tell people. this is how you're going to raise money for the governor of arkansas. go out and tell people when they see him, and when they meet him and when they hear him speak and when they see the quality of his mind, charisma n tell against, his good looks even, you are going to tell people this guy is going to be president of the united states. they are contributing early to somebody as president of the united states. all they have to do is see it and come into contact and he's going to wi

on the economy, bill clinton 55%, barack obama 26%. bill clinton. the end of -- let's see, the era of big government is over. i will never forget it. in the campaign so far he's sided with romney saying to extend the bush tax cuts. nothing wrong with bain capital and romney has a successful business career. people like clinton. >> part of it is they remember the '90s as the modern equivalent of the roaring 20s. it was a good decade economically. they like what you were saying. 63% of americans want the bush tax cuts extended. most people think cutting taxes is good for the economy. what hurts the president through all of this and the reason he suffers by comparison to bill clinton, clinton did give a sense he was interested in slowing the growth of spending. barack obama keeps indicating he wants to spend even more. that's a recipe the american people simply don't buy. >> is that what it says about obama? in other words, i'm going to take it to mean a lack of confidence in obama and people don't want the kind of big government that obama seems to st

let's hear bill clinton speak for himself. he took an ax to that whole thing when he was out there with harvey weinstein the other night. let's watch him. >> i don't think that we ought to get in the position where we rk. this is good work. there's no question that in terms of getting up and going to the office and, you know, basically performing the essential functions of the office, a moon who has been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold. >> so there you go. mr. clinton, i don't know what he's doing. you know him well, he's saying don't go down the negative t route. you can't win by bashing this guy on bain capital. you have to win this positively. >> i think the president's doing two things. number one, exactly what you said, chris, he's saying get out there and talk about what we're going to do. we do have good plans. the plans that bob outlined, the plans the president outlined. and you're dead right. don't do just $50 billion of infrastructure improvements over the next 18 mont

you want bill clinton at your side. set most popular democrat. certainly the most popular politician in the world, what am i talking about, right now. >> jumping in the chance it read their little talking point written for them by their dutiful little staff, written for them by the staff in the rnc, in the romney campaign. here is a few of them sporting total dishonesty, starting with john mccain. >> i want to thank you for having president clinton on. he is the gift that keeps on giving. i hope you will have him on more often to talk about bain capital and tax cut. >> i would make the same argument. the same argument that bill clinton is making that we need to extend the tax rate. >> even clinton came out for it, before he was against it. >> even president bill clinton gets it. you should not raise taxes on anybody. >> president clinton not wanting it further undermine our economy recommended short term extension of all the tax relief. >> there he is. it toit took hatch to say what wanted to say. and we get policies straight. joan, absolutely di

clinton has been making and that is that we need took tend these tax rates. >> bill clinton came out for it before he was against it. >> president bill clinton gets it, he knows you should not be raising taxes on anybody. >> president clinton not wanting to further undermine our economy recommended a short-term extension of all the tax relief. >> it took warren hatch to say what he said, he said a short-term extension to get us through to the election and we get the policy straight. joan, the dishonesty there, of mccain, thune, and boehner, who writes this from them? anybody has a newspaper, go check it right now, see what bill clinton said last night the first time he said it, we'll get through this campaign and then deal with the long-term extension and not give to the rich. sometimes politics amazes me, the absolute dishonesty. i can only forgive them if i realize some dinky staff member wrote this. >> you could not pass a lie detector with this. >> they have well paid think tankers, fox news, bloggers w, d they talk all day long and decided this was the line. president clinton re