this is not what scott walker and the republicans ran on. this is what they did swuonce t got into office. because this is not what they proclaimed they were going to do, they blind sided everybody. the result was chaos. it turns into 70,000 people and then 70,000 people turned into 100,000 people the week after that. these protests kept going on for weeks and then for months. the democrats fled the state. democrats fled across state lines to illinois and stayed there for weeks. with the democrats gone, with no quorum and no apparent legal way to get it done, scott walker and the republicans in wisconsin in march of last year just did it any way. >> at this time i would move to adopt -- >> excuse me, mr. chairman. >> as the conference. >> excuse me. i have a question about open meetings rule being violated. you were not given two hours. >> this is a violation of law. this is not just a rule. it's the law. >>adjourned. >> this is a violation. it requires at least two hours. >> what have you done? >> okay. >> excuse me. >> that's how they did

scott walker splits. badly trailing there. and you go to the higher income, governor walker winning the constituency. the incumbent did so well when the coampaign was about unions and jobs, what does that tell you? >> it's very, very important. yes, money counts. yes, ground game counts. both paul and gloria are right about that. but so do fundamental ideas. they matter in politics. that's how conservative ronald reagan got elected. conservatives have been battling here, arguing that the public employee unions have engaged in excesses that need to be cut back. i was out in wisconsin, spent a couple of days out there a couple of weeks ago, john. i can tell you a lot of people, small business people in particular, were talking about that these unions were costing too much money. it was not about the ads. it was not about the ground game. people just decided they couldn't afford it. that's what's really been at stake here. i think in this election. it's an important set of controversies going on in many states around the country.

at least the exit polls showed for scott walker. cnn can now project that the republican governor will retain his job as the governor of wisconsin. a close race. the republicans obviously spent a lot more money, but scott walker will remain as governor of wisconsin. i'm wolf blitzer in for piers morgan. our coverage continues right now on "ac 360." >>> i'm john king in for anderson cooper. let's go with the breaking news tonight. cnn now projecting scott walker the republican governor of wisconsin will withstand a recall challenge from tom barrett. the republican winning in a hotly contested nationally watched recall election. the big issue at the beginning, governor walker's efforts to curtain the rights of public employees union. in the middle of a gig budget crisis. tens of millions of dollars spent on the recall election. about 27% of the vote in, governor walker leading by 60% to 40%. our exit poll shows the race to be closer than that. let's take a break to the magic wall to show why we're predicting why walker will keep his j

senator thinks scott walker reforms are working. he will defend his position here tonight. >>> despite getting out spent by outside money, democrats like the reverend jesse jackson say they will turn out the vote in wisconsin. >> if they can march in selma and montgomery, i can march right down the street. >> the civil rights leader joins me live in madison. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. the long road to the recall elections here in wisconsin is now over. tomorrow voters will decide the fate of governor scott walker for only the third time in recall election history in this country. a recent university poll has scott walker with a seven-point lead over tom barrett. many democrats are questioning that. the newest poll from public policy polling shows walker only has a three-point lead. i have been in wisconsin this past weekend stopping by in racine and burlington and north milwaukee. everywhere i went, there was unbelievable enthusiasm. so this is one for the archives, folks. i don't know how the polls can be ju

scott walker is the third u.s. governor to face recall in american history and the only one to have survived it. joining us now, john harwood. and "new york times" political writer, thanks for being here, appreciate your time. >> hey, rachel. >> the polling ahead of the election showed scott walker ahead. tom barrett never led in any polls leading into this. especially in the exit polling today, it looked like it was going to be very, very close. in the end, it was not very close. do we know yet what happened? >> i've been trying to figure it out myself. we were expecting a long night. maybe not even a call tonight. not until the morning. and you know, you kept watching the returning come in and the pile got bigger and bigger and walker was up double digits and now, the latest numbers seen show about ten points maybe a little bit less, which is larger than his margin in 2010. so i'm quite surprised and don't know exactly what was often the measurement. whether there was a participation problem with people supportin

and it's not a scott walker 57-43 win. much closer to 51 or 52. >> from both of you, john first, what does this mean? citizens united. what ground game will it take to defeat the millions of dollars floating into elections all over america? >> i think it's really important to recognize that what happened in wisconsin was an experiment in the laboratory of democracy. this experiment, the part of both sides, is going to have us define where we go. the republicans went with big money, massive infusions of money. it's a powerful lesson for every state in this country. when you bring that much money in, you can repurpose a failed governor as a credible candidate. that's what they did with scott walker. for the labor unions and for democrats, there's also a powerful lesson. they, i believe, did not do a lot of education up front about what a recall is. polling shows a lot of people didn't like the idea of doing a recall. they also, i don't think, did enough education on the collective bargaining. >> it's hard to do education whe

the koch brothers gave more money to scott walker, twice as much money to scott walker, than tom barrett ever even raised. so this is a critical, critical issue. and look, i think one thing it says is that people need to help us out. i mean, they need to go to barackobama.com and democrats.org and we've got to get the money and we can't be outspent in the fall the way tom barrett was outspent in wisconsin. we can't have -- >> well, what if you were outspent like that? what if you're outspent four to one or five to one? what's the game plan? do you have new ground troops? do you have enough organization? >> i do think we have enough organization, i think we have enough ground troops. we know for a fact -- you know, they made a big deal today about the fact that scott walker is going to turn over his offices in wisconsin to mitt romney. why didn't mitt romney have offices in wisconsin? he doesn't have offices in north carolina, three or four. they have no ground game. and you know, we're going to exploit that, but we're going to have to reach to as high as parody as we can on the spending

that's what they did with scott walker. for the labor unions and for democrats, there's also a powerful lesson. they, i believe, did not do a lot of education up front about what a recall is. polling shows a lot of people didn't like the idea of doing a recall. they also, i don't think, did enough education on the collective bargaining. >> it's hard to do education when you're outguns by $27 million. >> what we'll talk about is how you spend a limited amount. there's lessons for both sides. >> ruth, unfold it for us. >> two things. i think that it is the citizen's united era and we have to do something about it. there's a movement in the country to amend the constitution. money does not equal speech. having more money should not mean having more speech. this is a long-term site. but it's where we are with our democracy. our democracy is at stake here. nd then the labor movement. what scott walker did is he sent a message to citizens saying -- look at your neighbor. the teacher, the firefighter, that person is a person that

scott walker is a leader with courage. he said he was going to create jobs and focus on economic recovery, get people back to work. and balance the budget without raising taxes and did he those things and got results. and i think the overwhelming win tonight looks like a margin bigger than the win a year and a half ago says the people of wisconsin responded well. they like a leader with courage. that is great for america. >> and how much do you think it plays in november? do you think the romney campaign will consider wisconsin a possibility? >> absolutely. the coalition that we put together for this campaign of the republican governor's association about nine million business people responded to the message of free enterprise. and nra, americans for prosperity, everybody pitched in. those are the coalitions you're going see behind mitt rom nee. issues are the same and that is balancing the budget without raising taxes. without doing something about this get det and getting people back to work. so what happened in wisconsi

scott walker is a leader with courage. he said he was going to create jobs and focus on economic recovery, get people back to work. and balance the budget without raising taxes and did he those things and got results. and i think the overwhelming win tonight looks like a margin bigger than the win a year and a half ago says the people of wisconsin responded well. they like a leader with courage. that is great for america. >> and how much do you think it plays in november? do you think the romney campaign will consider wisconsin a possibility? >> absolutely. the coalition that we put together for this campaign of the republican governor's association about nine million business people responded to the message of free enterprise. and nra, americans for prosperity, everybody pitched in. those are the coalitions you're going see behind mitt rom nee. issues are the same and that is balancing the budget without raising taxes. without doing something about this get det and getting people back to work. so what happened in wisconsi

scott walker is a leader with courage. he said he was going to create jobs and focus on economic recovery, get people back to work. and balance the budget without raising taxes and did he those things and got results. and i think the overwhelming win tonight looks like a margin bigger than the win a year and a half ago says the people of wisconsin responded well. they like a leader with courage. that is great for america. >> and how much do you think it plays in november? do you think the romney campaign will consider wisconsin a possibility? >> absolutely. the coalition that we put together for this campaign of the republican governor's association about nine million business people responded to the message of free enterprise. and nra, americans for prosperity, everybody pitched in. those are the coalitions you're going see behind mitt rom nee. issues are the same and that is balancing the budget without raising taxes. without doing something about this get det and getting people back to work. so what happened in wisconsi

scott walker wins that handling. republicans have done well in recent elections going to union households identifying themselves coming out the polls. john bau tom barrett won that handily. looking forward down the roa to the 2012 election the presidential election according to the books coming out of the polls yesterday. president obama is favored over mitt romney by 51 to 44 percent of the vote is 3 percent. who would do a better job at handing the economy. obama preferred 42 percent to mitt romney's 38 percent. neither is 19 percent. again that's going to be the more keyi marquis issue going forward. it is essentially at it's core about how to get the state's finances kokt getting the state going in the right direction. you ma hear a lot of scott walker for this particular state. it is narrowly divided here. it shows working class whites scott walker union household dominantly tom barrett. >> thank you, steve. coming up on fox and friends an exclusive interview with governor scott walker on the historic victory at

scott walker ended up with a much bigger margin of victory than in 2010. what was going on on the ground? >> it had nothing to do with scott walker or the election and with who we are as americans. people are tired of working to feed a union boss and a bureaucrat and that corrupting relationship between the both of them. this is about our children's future. i was on the ground in wisconsin. that's what we talked about. i think that's what won the day, far beyond the election. >> sean: mike, you talked on the radio every single day. i have often discussed what i call an unholy alliance between the unions and the democratic party. how do you describe the quid pro quo. they take rank-and-file money and give it to the politicians. what do the unions get? >> the exciting thing is that it was reported that 38% of union households in wisconsin supported scott walker, so the tide is turning. while i love that everything that jennifer stands for in the tea party movement, i think it begins and ends with scott walker. he is the ronald reagan of our time against pacc

scott walker is a leader with courage. he said he was going to create jobs and focus on economic recovery, get people back to work. and balance the budget without raising taxes and did he those things and got results. and i think the overwhelming win tonight looks like a margin bigger than the win a year and a half ago says the people of wisconsin responded well. they like a leader with courage. that is great for america. >> and how much do you think it plays in november? do you think the romney campaign will consider wisconsin a possibility? >> absolutely. the coalition that we put together for this campaign of the republican governor's association about nine million business people responded to the message of free enterprise. and nra, americans for prosperity, everybody pitched in. those are the coalitions you're going see behind mitt rom nee. issues are the same and that is balancing the budget without raising taxes. without doing something about this get det and getting people back to work. so what happened in wisconsi

he'll get more if scott walker wins. if scott walker wins, you can expect mitt romney and people around him surrogates and so forth to carefully move out onto the labor argument, the public employee argument which mitt romney has kind of avoided making a major theme of his campaign. what remains of the union movement, it seem to me, even though it's dwindled, i think middle voters are reluctant to give up on and reluctant to be buy the argument that the union movement has been discredited by public employees. they worry about the budget like all americans do. they don't want to give up the leverage. whatever leverage the middle class has left in a corporate world, they are reluctant to give up. that's why they are ralg

if scott walker wins, i'm going to argue on this one, it's not obama's fault, that scott walker has done what he set out to do by curbing union excesses, by balancing the budget, by not raising taxes and in fact, cutting property taxes for the first time, and it turns out that scott walker was right and the skeptics were wrong, the bureau of labor statistics and the department of labor said they are about 25,000 new jobs in the last 12 months in wisconsin. walker got all that right. so why should he be unseated? >> first, this has nothing to do with president obama. this has everything to do with leadership. someone who is willing to go vote, someone who has guts as a leader to do what is right for the state, to have pro-growth policies where you're not raising taxes, not laying people off, and you're balancing your budget. you can't argue with the results in wisconsin. we went from a $3 billion structural deficit to a surplus, and everyone's still working. we are open for business. and that's why the senator can talk about division, but you've actually seen a union fi indication of wisc

walker is the subject, of course of the recall, scott walker is. but that guy claims that walker stonewalled investigators looking into whether the governor set up a secret computer network in his office for the purpose of conducting illegal campaign activities. now, this news comes on the heels of a report this weekend by david shuster that governor walker may be the target of a criminal corruption probe, which is connected to that computer network. it's a charge that walker vehemenently denies. walker has not been charged. take a license to this. >> 100% wrong. could not be more wrong. just more of the linrals here tactics trying to get campaign off target from talking about what it was to begin with. >> so for more on that story we are going to turn to current tv's david shuster who is life in madison with the latest on what's happening on the ground in wisconsin. david, thanks for joining us. >> governor, good evening to you. >> so what exactly is the governor being accused of doing? >> well, there are two things the investigation two years ago

scott walker now with his recall defeat has had a win. how do you think this plays to embolden governors perhaps thinking about making these moves into other states? >> that is a good question. republican governors across the country are doing some of the same things scott walker has been doing. and embraigs policies that support the american dream. a lot of these are tough decisions. it's saying do you know what? we can't afford to do business the same way. there are $15 trillion in debt and we have deficits that need to be eliminated. and governors are engaging in economic development reforms, just being honest in saying we've got to change the way we do business z scott walker was rewarded by voters tonight. and reducing debt and creating a better environment. he will be rewarded to. >> thank you very much for the time. up next, governor o'malley from maryland joins me live. we're wait on remarks from the winner tonight. governor scott walker in wisconsin. you're getting ready to hear from him. you'll see it live here on fox news chann

walker he is named in the criminal complaints against scott walker. >> wow. here is scott walker yesterday. >> i have said all along that i have been villainized by outside specialists for about a year half. [ laughter ] >> i was there graeme. >> right. >> there were a hundred thousand teachers firefighters you know, cops from wisconsin that had been protesting. >> oh yeah and these are not just in madison. this is the length of the state. there were these little towns like elk horn and washburn. the first actual protest was in a little town called orecon where it was working people from that community who came to the assembly speaker's front door to tell him to not do what he was doing. i was there for that first reality in the recall movement. and it was people from this state who were fed up. scott walker compares himself to ronald reagan who started his time in office with these notions of grandyour. >> yeah, exactly. like he is some kind of hero. the pink call from the fake koch brother. that was my favorite -- that he couldn't get off the phone. >> he h

scott walker now with his recall defeat has had a win. how do you think this plays to embolden governors perhaps thinking about making these moves into other states? >> that is a good question. republican governors across the country are doing some of the same things scott walker has been doing. and embraigs policies that support the american dream. a lot of these are tough decisions. it's saying do you know what? we can't afford to do business the same way. there are $15 trillion in debt and we have deficits that need to be eliminated. and governors are engaging in economic development reforms, just being honest in saying we've got to change the way we do business z scott walker was rewarded by voters tonight. and reducing debt and creating a better environment. he will be rewarded to. >> thank you very much for the time. up next, governor o'malley from maryland joins me live. we're wait on remarks from the winner tonight. governor scott walker in wisconsin. you're getting ready to hear from him. you'll see it live here on fox news chann

scott walker ran a good campaign. he is a good candidate whether you agree or disagree, he was laser wide focused on the campaign and raised the money he could that was a lot. he had a good message and went from being employee unions and the ads are about the economy. whether they are getting better or worse. >> thank you so much. craig gilbert, thanks for joining us. does the victory many that they have a shot at becoming the first republican to win since 1984. "the washington post" chief correspondent and author of the take. hey, dan. what do you think the larger message is. for the republicans and the labor movement. >> the republicans are going to take a boost out of what happened yesterday. fairly or unfairly. i think they will look to a couple of different things they were able to do in wisconsin and see if they can translate that or replicate it in the fall. romney will have a chance of being competitive. the role of money. if there is one thing that worries the obama campaign beyond the economy, it's the amoun

and stocks love the scott walker win. wall street had its best day of the year after republicans win wisconsin. coincidence? i think not. why i think it's a sign of things to come for investors. don't forget, folks. free market capitalism, the best path to prosperity. a pretty strong dose of the last night in wisconsin. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back. >>> now that bulls are back in town, for a day, all three indices surged well over 2% today. blue chips back in positive territory for the year. stocks love scott walker's landslide victory in wisconsin. spanked public-sector unions and the democrats why do they love it? a growth message and stocks love growth. and by the way, some remarks by global sense of bankers about monetary slim husband may have market. i don't deny it. i want to discuss the walker factory as well. former head of fixed income at bank of america, david goldman, and president of macro strategy, and since he was on the money last night. i brought back my friend, art ho began. ho hogan. here is what you

scott walker reversed that. that sends a message across the country that he was prepared to take them on and win politically. chris christie won in new jersey. >> sean: look at that. while the countedry's being downgraded, our triple-a rating is gone. ohio went up and has 100,000 new jobs, wisconsin has 30,000 you new jobs. christie and bobby jindal t. seems to me what is happening in these states is the prescription for the country overall, the federal government. >> if a conservative takes on the tough issues of debt and deficits, a conservative can win. >> sean: look at what happens. look at how vicious this got. >> absolutely demonized. >> think about it. the democrat it's okay, they sent bill clinton out, who is not singing the same songa the president. remember, the president derided any of the critics against scott walker, he sent his labor secretary and she said, my brothers, my sisters and after they won, joe biden came to the unions and said we owe you, three magic words. where was the white house? whe