move on to the next caller. jay is up from east hamden, connecticut. welcome jay. caller: good morning. i like to ask fred a question. how do we plan on dealing with syndromes of -- when we think of drones and like they use in warfare and so forth, they are thought more of like a killer bee syndrome. we can't handle the killer bee syndrome in our own current life. you talk about the nuclear problem and that seems to be very similar to when humans were first in existence and they had to learn to live with lions and so forth. these analogies are things that seem to be need to be dealt with. they seem to be very basic in a lot of ways. guest: i think what you're asking about is the kind of more unintended effect in technology. killer bees, we are as a species, we're making having a big impact on the planet and we're causing disruptions. we get unintended consequences. you mentioned killer bees, the bigger problem is the die-off in some honey bees, which is happening and has been a big problem in agriculture. i wrote a book which is just out this year call "the fate of the species"