objectives in yemen viz a viz. a national dialogue the constitution writing and a political transition to parliamentary elections in two thousand and fourteen so is what you're saying that drones are harming the u.s. objective abroad we have it depends on which objective we're looking at if you're looking at the short term military objective i think drones have been quite successful in terms of degrading al qaeda in the arabian peninsula its capacity to respond and adapt and we've seen them fragment and dispersed their forces throughout the country they're engaged much more in terrorists or good type operations rather than insurgent type operations and not holding territory the way they were before but for a long term perspective if you look at u.s. policy objectives rather than just our counterterrorism objectives exclusively i think it is having a corrosive effect especially with the arab spring generation which sees the united states and saudi arabia for better or for worse interfering with yemen's ability to de

we can help the yemen navy be proactive. i mean, it's a country that is very poor and can't ford the sophisticated tracking equipment that we can. this is the technoogical assistance we can provide. melissa: same thing, though, where we try to enter, you know, a conflict, there's a conflict going on with yemen, and iran chose a side. as we try to choose a side, you never know who you are dealing with, though. >> right. we know the government says they want to do the right thing by all of its people. it's trying to be more democratic and less corrupt, more effective, and i think the united states is backing it, and it's very hard bet because yemen is a very unstable country. melissa: at the same time, i read reports in the "new york times" for example saying things in iran are not as tough as we think it is, that sanctions are not having a huge impact, and the people are not as poor as it seems. do you believe the reports? >> i think the sanctions are cutting the iranians, the big question for me that i really doubt, i do not

, northern yemen. they went, imagine all i way through iran to the arabian peninsula, the international waters to get ton an enclave in northern yemen, far from the gulf where we are supposed to be containing them, and that is telling about what iran is doing. that is telling us that our containment policy, the sanctions that we have right now are not really detouring the iranians. it's in bahrain, uae, iraq, and even in other countries in the red sea area. lou: and, of course, it is nothing new, as you say irrespective of the distance traveled issue and it was a short distance from teheran to baghdad, but in that span, we know iranians were killing american troops and did so throughout the war. there was no response. how can it be that a super power, this country, would allow such travesty without response? whether it's the bush administration or the obama administration. >> the problem, louis that under the bush administration, it was basically putting pressure on the iranians. we were present in ira

imminent threat and i don't think that some foot soldier loading a couple of miles on to a truck in the yemen is much of a threat imminent threat ok david. i think your summary was actually an understatement not an exaggeration i mean this was a white paper summarizing a memo that takes it as beyond question that non americans can be killed with drones anywhere and seeks to justify the killing of the u.s. citizens if they are abroad and even if they are not in a hostile field of activity although it seems rather an action and rather a hostile one to kill them if you ask me and so they're taking it as beyond question that they can kill americans if they are in those other areas the only place where they won't kill someone is an american within the united states and that may be coming but this is this is a memo that says not just the president but any high official and it doesn't explain which high officials or what happens if two of them disagree but any high official can can kill a u.s. citizen in these circumstances when that citizen is an imminent threat to the united states meaning u.s. tr

imminent threat and i don't think that some foot soldier loading a couple of levels on to a truck in the yemen as much of a threat imminent threat ok david. i think your summary was actually an understatement not an exaggeration i mean this was a white paper summarizing a memo that takes it as beyond question that non americans can be killed with drones anywhere and seeks to justify the killing of u.s. citizens if they are abroad and even if they are not in a hostile field of activity although it seems rather an action and rather a hostile one to kill them if you ask me and so they're taking it as beyond question that they can kill americans if they are in those other areas the only place where they won't kill someone is an american within the united states and that may be coming but this is a this is a memo that says not just the president but any high official and it doesn't explain which high officials or what happens if two of them disagree but any high official can can kill a u.s. citizen in these circumstances when that citizen is an imminent threat to the united states meaning u.s. troo

people brought up the issue of al awlaki been killed in yemen. i think it is good to look at what if scenarios before those scenarios happen. we know al walking had led prayers for muslim congressional staffers -- we know al awlaki had led prayers for a muslim congressional staffers here on capitol hill. can you foresee a time like -- a time when someone like al awlaki was on a hit list and finishes when he was doing in yemen and gets back into the united states? if there is concern about imminent attack while he was in yemen, could there be those same concerns? when would it be possible for someone on the hit list, as he was, to be hit in the lead to states proper? >> the alabama awlaki case will someday be the subject -- lee alabama awlaki case -- the al awlaki case will someday be the subject of a wonderful book. if he had made it back to the united states, there is no dispute that the proper way to handle them would have been for the fbi to arrest him and for him to be prosecuted in u.s. federal court. >> my question was not on what was prope

people in yemen and they ended up actually killing a. rather cleric who was actually giving speeches against al qaeda so it's a very very dangerous a very risky thing we don't know nearly enough about it we need to know much much more not less as you said that we see that the drone campaign is playing a bigger and increasingly larger role in achieving u.s. foreign policy goals but at the same time it's a very secretive program and that is expected to be discussed and john brennan hearing from the director that is going on right now is one of bringing this another interesting development when it comes to grow in the iranian state media last night showed alleged footage of a u.s. drone in the hands of iran the u.s. claims that the drone. disappeared over afghanistan before they said that the drone that the drone wasn't missing if this footage which the authenticity of it has not been verified but if it is indeed a u.s. drone does this cast a special in on what the pentagon has been saying it certainly does and i think that was damage contr

imminent threat and i don't think that some foot soldier loading a couple of levels on to a truck in the yemen is much of a threat imminent threat ok david. i think your summary was actually an understatement not an exaggeration i mean this was a white paper summarizing a memo that takes it as beyond question that non americans can be killed with drones anywhere and seeks to justify the killing of the u.s. citizens if they are abroad and even if they are not in a hostile field of activity although it seems rather an action and rather a hostile one to kill them if you ask me and so they're taking it as beyond question that they can kill americans if they are in those other areas the only place where they won't kill someone is an american within the united states and that may be coming but this is this is a memo that says not just the president but any high official and it doesn't explain which high officials or what happens if two of them disagree but any high official can can kill a u.s. citizen in these circumstances when that citizen is an imminent threat to the united states meaning u.s. tr

government says became a high leader in al qaeda and yemen. he was killed in a drone strike in 2011. the u.s. hasn't acknowledged that killing. they acknowledge he is dead, but they don't acknowledge the u.s. role in it. gwen: they killed his son and somebody he was there with at the time, another american citizen. >> gwen, we know at least three americans have been dead at the hand of drone strikes from the u.s. government, although there are some indications that two of those people, his son and the man with him, were more collateral damage than direct damage. gwen: here is what is interesting this week. we see this white paper memo come out which basically summarizes the administration's legal argument for this, no mention of this man at all. we see the senators asking for this information. we see the white house saying, oh, you can have some. why now? because brennan is up? >> well, because john brennan has been one of the president's closest advisorses and the man more or less targeting the targeted killing from the white house for the la

yemen is not a war zone. not like afghanistan. >> no, i would agree with that and to me, that would come down to, okay, what alternatives do you have? and if that 16-year-old, first off how good is your intelligence and how reliable, and again, depending where this terrorist is, or suspected terrorist. >> this is apparently wrong intelligence. based on how strong your intelligence is and how reliable. if they're outside a theater you have to have better intelligence and number two, look at the country you're in. do we have a government in yemen to do something to capture this person or take action against this person short of a drone attack. >> somebody who turns out not to be a terrorist. >> i understand, but there is always the occasion of bad intelligence. so the question is, i'd rather, if the bad intelligence about an american with an al-qaeda group in afghanistan, i'll live with that intelligence. what's that person doing it there? obviously, they're doing some things they shouldn't be if they're in a t

liberal democrats like ron wyden of oregon, who just cannot swallow the idea that a drone can fly over to yemen and kill an american citizen who has never been charged. republicans say, hey, we're at war. >> steve handelsman. >>> no smokers allowed. the virginia company that will no longer hire people who light up. >>> the freak accident that left this truck dangling in midair. >>> and fighting the city in a. how magic johnson's trip here to washington cou

imminent threat and i don't think that some foot soldier loading a couple of rifles on to a truck in the yemen as much of a threat imminent threat ok david. i think your summary was actually an understatement not an exaggeration i mean this was a white paper summarizing a memo that takes it as beyond question that non americans can be killed with drones anywhere and seeks to justify the killing of u.s. citizens if they are abroad and even if they are not in a hostile field of activity although it seems rather an action and rather a hostile one to kill them if you ask me and so they're taking it as beyond question that they can kill americans if they are in those other areas the only place where they won't kill someone is an american within the united states and that may be coming but this is a this is a memo that says not just the president but any high official and it doesn't explain which high officials or what happens if two of them disagree but any high official can can kill a u.s. citizen in these circumstances when that citizen is an imminent threat to the united states meaning u.s. troo

least nine people have reportedly died in yemen after a helicopter crashed in the capital. the military aircraft hit a busy area in the square or anti- government protests were held in recent months. a publisher and editor for the yemen post gave us this update. >> the military helicopter in the atop a building heart of the square. injured and a few of them in critical condition. the fire and flames really strong. government forces have filled the area. our ambulances and fire trucks not allowingarea, journalists into the area for security reasons. the soldiers are refusing to allow journalists into the crash site because there were weapons and explosives. >> security forces have killed a four suspects in the " the bombings -- quetta bombings. the attack has led to protests across pakistan. now this report. >> defiant and unified, thousands of ethnic shias voice their anger at the continued violence aimed at their community. the area is home to minority group and the site of many sectarian attacks against them, including saturday's bombing which claimed more than 80 lives.

should it move bigtime to yemen or somali or mali or libya, go down the list? i think people are really raising questions. >> they're part of this growing disconnect between the american public. and the concern has been they would make it much easier to get involved in a war. and as we have seen, yemen, somalia, perhaps mali, pakistan. chris: a great debate. american shoes always debate. >> americans support overwhelmingly because they don't want -- chris: chris: welcome back. joe, tell me something i don't know. >> on friday, president obama met with the leaders of team rubikon which is a group of iraq and afghanistan veterans who do disaster relief and mobilize 10,000 people to help after hurricane sandy. the reason why it's really important this week is that we've had two incidents of gun violence by veterans and it's very important that the public unders that the vast majority of veterans coming home are assets, not liabilities. >> senate democrats getting together, coming up with a plan within the next few weeks. and they're going to -- they have three pro

should it move bigtime to yemen or somali or mali or libya, go down the list? i think people are really raising questions. >> they're part of this growing disconnect between the american public. and the concern has been they would make it much easier to get involved in a war. and as we have seen, yemen, somalia, perhaps mali, pakistan. chris: a great debate. american shoes always debate. >> americans support overwhelmingly because they don't want -- chris: [ female announcer ] pillsbury crescents are awesome. but when i cook up some beef, ketchup, relish and cheese, cover it with crescent dough and pow! cheeseburger crescent casserole. double awesome. pillsbury crescents. let the making begin. here's a better idea. pillsbury grands! flaky layers biscuits in just 15 minutes the light delicate layers add a layer of warmth to your next dinner. pillsbury grands biscuits let the making begin. chris: welcome back. joe, tell me something i don't know. >> on friday, president obama met with the leaders of team rubikon which is a group of iraq and afghanistan veterans w

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>> yemen, notably, there's been 5 great deal of challenges in yemen. >> had that in our embassy in yemen >> >> consistent threat against the ambassador personally, yes. >> what response have you made in yemen? >> at the request of the embassy, we have a fleet anti-terrorism support team there to thicken the defenses, and we also got aircraft located in a nearby country that can respond in extremist. >> so that's the second time you've used the phrase state department didn't request or in this instance in yemen, the state department did request. general dempsey, i take it as a response and reaction to this instance. you are the chairman of the joint chiefs. you knew what was happening in benghazi. you failed to respond in a way that provided security to that particular united states mission complex when, apparently, you did respond in a positive way in yemen, you say; am i correct in that? >> well, you're incorrect saying i failed to respond to a request. look, what we do is in collaboration with our agency partners as we try to distribute resources. >> general, you said to senator mccain

one from was a 16-year-old boy who was sitting in having dinner with his cousins in yemen. no discussion of the case of samir khan, a pakistani-american who was killed alongside anwar awlaki. his family had met with the fbi prior to his death. the fbi told his family that samir khan was not indicted, that samir khan was not accused of a crime, yet you have three u.s. citizens being killed. when anwar awlaki's name was raised during the course of the hearing, it was one of the most disgusting displays of a show trial or a faux trial have ever seen. john brennan and dianne feinstein set out to put anwar awlaki on trial posthumously without presenting any evidence and to issue a guilty verdict. the whole thing was a show. >> let's go to diane feinstein asking brennan to talk about anwar awlaki, the american citizen who was assassinated in yemen in a drone strike in 2011. >> can ask you questions about him? what's your the chairman critic rex did he have a connection to a man who attempted to explode a device on one of our planes over detroit? >> yes, he did. >> can you tell us

drone strikes in pakistan and yemen we find ourselves murdering people in many cases children with no evidence whatsoever that they're involved in any criminal or terrorist activity the numbers should not come as a surprise considering the broad definition the obama administration gives us to who should be on their kill list the leaked memo on targeted assassinations from the us justice department suggests the us government can kill people even without evidence that they are actively plotting against america if you extend the logic or studio logic being proud by the white house now where you come. cliff you might say that we're in danger of going over we're getting very close to zero thought crimes that if somebody a u.s. citizen or otherwise is believed to be thinking something that could lead to actions against you. united states then this illogical logic would present the idea that it would be ok for the president to order that that person be killed despite the un raising concerns about the legality of the use of drones the us is said to expand its remote control warfare setting up

not only has the perpetual use of drones over pakistan yemen somalia killed countless innocent civilians but the operations are planting the seeds of resentment in the us terrorism against the us among the civilian populations of these countries so what the whole day is right around the corner let's talk about what's on president obama's wish list this year my guess is that it's an upgrade of his favorite toy killer unmanned robots which is why i like to call president obama the drone carrying today's hash tag is officially drone king a phrase i coined on the show that's picking up some steam in the social media world so keep throwing that into the twitter verse john brennan's nickname is the assassination czar for god's sake and this is the guy who is ushering this country into the next phase of the war on terror so because we'll be stuck with this guy at least until he's mired in a sex scandal himself we should probably mention some of his most notable achievements he vocally advocated giving immunity to telecom corporations who participated in bush's illegal wiretapping program he led

drone strikes in yemen. civil liberties groups have said such attacks deprive u.s. citizens of constitutional due process protection. but white house press s.e.c. jay carney justified those actions today as legal ethical and wise. >> the questions around this issue are important and the president takes them seriously. we have significant challenges because of the nature of the attacks, how they're planned, who plans them. but there is no question that senior operational leaders of al qaeda are continually planning to attack the united states to attack american citizens. the authorization to use military force is entirely appropriate for the united states to target seen yore operational leaders of al qaeda. >> ifill: the white paper-- revealed overnight-- was drawn from more detailed legal memo which is remains classified. a bipartisan group of senators led by oregon's ron widen have asked they be made public in advance of thursday's hearing on the nomination of john brennan to be c.i.a. director. brennan has been key in implementing the stepped-up use of drones to t

we'll stop again. >> in yemen, pakistan, somalia and who else -- who else? anywhere else. >> please remove that woman. >> and the obama administration refuse to tell congress! they won't even tell congress what country we are killing children in. >> please. >> senator feinstein -- >> if you could expedite the removal. >> the children of pakistan and yemen. are they more important? do your job! world peace depends on it! we're making more enemies. >> please proceed. mr. brennan, the next time we're going to clear the chamber. and bring people back in one by one. this witness is entitled to be heard, ladies and gentlemen. so please give him that opportunity. >> thank you. a heart felt thank you also goes to my family in new jersey, my mother and father who emigrated from ireland nearly 65 years ago. >> pakistan and, mr. brennan, if you don't know who they are i have the list. i have the list of all the names and the ages. >> all right. i'm going to -- we're going to halt the hearing. i'm going to ask that the room be cleared and that the code pink associates n

missile not only has the perpetual use of drones over pakistan yemen somalia killed countless innocent civilians but the operations are planting the seeds of resentment and thus terrorism against the u.s. among the civilian populations of these countries so what the whole day is right around the corner let's talk about what's on president obama's wish list this year my guess is that it's an upgrade of his favorite toy killer unmanned robots which is why i like to call president obama the drone carrying and today's hash tag is a drone king a phrase i coined on the show that's in picking up some steam in the social media world so keep throwing that into the twitter verse john brennan's nickname is the assassination czar for god's sake and this is the guy who is ushering this country into the next phase of the war on terror so because it will be stuck with this guy at least until he's mired in a sex scandal himself we should probably mention some of his most notable achievements he vocally advocated giving immunity to telecom corporations who participated in bush's illegal wiretapping pro

. >> yemen. are you seriously telling me yemen is one of the safest places on earth. >> are you seriously telling me -- >> when you say this kind of bull, that's what it is. people believe it, and yemen is not the safest country in the world many. >> are you prepared to admit that your dream of a gun free zone in mexico is working. a gun free zone in chicago is working. a gun free zone in all these cities where the slaughter rate is the highest of anywhere, including yemen -- >> let me give you some countries, ausz trail ya, brylin, japan, canada. >> they don't have a second amendment, pierce. >> your second amendment doesn't entitle you to have an armored tank outside. you accept gun control already. >> are you sure of that? >> i wouldn't put you in a tank. there are 50 gun controlled measures in this country. we're not talking about bringing in gun control, we're talking about extending it to cover the. >> those measures are violated by all these perpetrators every time. what makes you think th