and weave, now the real story how jay carney slips those tough questions, later in the grapevine. >>> up next, he's evading the most powerful nation on earth. where is edward snowden now, why can't the u.s. get any help? it's monday, a brand new start. with centurylink visionary cloud infrastructure, and custom communications solutions, your business is more reliable, secure, and agile. ♪ now you can give yourself a kick in the rear! v8 v-fusion plus energy. natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veggies. need a little kick? ooh! could've had a v8. in the juice aisle. [ male announcer ] pain not sitting too well? burning to feel better? itching for relief? preparation h offers the most maximum strength solutions for all hemorrhoid symptoms. from the brand doctors recommend most. preparation h. don't stand for hemorrhoids. >>> it is the international political espionage version of where's waldo. self confessed nsa leaker edward snowden was not where he was supposed to be today, and right now, he may be the most sought after person in the world. we have fox team coverage.

spokesman jay carney? bernie goldberg will weigh in. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. is the irs scandal like watergate? that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. first off, a clarification. talking points is not linking the irs scandal to the white house. we are not implying, insinuating, hinting or doing anything else other than reporting the facts. and so far we have been dead on. last week we told you you that former irs chief doug shulman visited the white house 157 times more than any other department head. it wasn't even close. logically you ask the white house to explain those meetings with whom did mr. shulman chat and what was the subject on all 157 occasions? any honest reporter would ask that question and the white house should provide the answer immediately. incredibly before my analysis last thursday there were no mentions last week plaintiff shulman's apundit visits to the white house on cnn. on nbc, on cbs, or on nbc. none, nad darks zip. -- nada, zip. that

administration through jay carney and others to say these are rogue agents out of cincinnati. to prove that point let's play jay carney saying that very thing. >> irs employees improperly scrutinizing 501c4 applications. >> they are put in great trust. >> employees of the irs office in cincinnati abuse this had trust. >> the apparent conduct by officials in cincinnati. >> the exempt organization's field off the? cincinnati used inappropriate criteria. >> the president doesn't know about everything in government. i don't think you can hold him accountable for what happened in that irs office. >> sean: congressman california. pacific coast region where these peopletrap were illegally targeted asked questions what are the contents of your members' prayers. asked them to pledge not to protest in front of planned parenthood in exchange2&es @&hc% the 501c4.89j53 >>> a clear violation we have copies of the irs stationary asking inappropriate illegal questions which proves their statement in cincinnati is completely bogus. >> this reminds me too often of what happened in my home state of illinois.

carney is just repeated what he was told to say. susan rice was repeating talking points and eric holder is carrying out marching orders. he is confident and they are trying to do their job. they are loyal. and when they are caught they don't back down. >> there some things i want to do, things i want to get done i've discussed with the president. once i have finished that, i'll sit down with him and we'll determine when it's time to make a transition. >> but are not stepping down now? >> no, i have no intention of doing it now. >> eric: when loyalty means bending the truth knowing it's false i say it's time to be loyal to the country and not the president. being loyal to the president seems to be promoted. >> kimberly: he's got himself a mighty fine front line. they will hold the line. do whatever it takes. they will repeat whatever he wants them to do. there is great reward in that. that is why, i don't think eric holder was worried about resigning or having to step down. he has done too much. he has the confidence of the president. you know, valerie jarret likes him. >> eric: h

. darrell issa tore into carney over his responses to the irs scandal. he is a, quote, paid liar, and mr. carney was asked about it and his response is coming um next. dark we're cracking down on medicare fraud. the healthcare law gives us powerful tools to fight it... to investigate it... ...prosecute it... and stop criminals. our senior medicare patrol volunteers... are teaching seniors across the country... ...to stop, spot, and report fraud. you can help. guard your medicare card. don't give out your card number over the phone. call to report any suspected fraud. we're cracking down on medicare fraud. let's make medicare stronger for all of us. make a wish! i wish we could lie here forever. i wish this test drive was over, so we could head back to the dealership. [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. test drive! [ male announcer ] but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a jetta. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen.

happened. >> ice is a believes that it was ordered from washington. so carney pointed out that an inspector gentle audit found no issues with that. >> perhaps there were issues that he has with the ig. >> this was not an effort driven by the white house. it would be be the dumbest political effort of all-time. >> and while carney wouldn't attack ice is a, pluck tweeted strong words for mr. grand theft auto. ice is a and his brother were charged with stealing a car in the 1970, those charges were dropped. and a fire at his business was deemed suspicious though the cause was never determined and no rmg chas were filed. as chairman of the house over sight and government reform committee, he's been liberal with his -- that wound up arming the killer of the u.s. border patrol agent. >> he will not give us the fact as to when congress was lied to the fast and furious case. >> reporter: carney says the president supports legitimate over wyasight. >> it has the effect of call into question in the minds of american people whether the government can be effective and impartial and not intrus

will keep talking about this. darrell issa tore into carney over his responses to the irs scandal. he is a, quote, paid liar, and mr. carney was asked about it and his response is coming um next. dark ♪ >> wow. you try and help bob out and tuck in the shirt and you know what he said? i can't tell you. the chair of one of the committees investigating the irs isn't happy with the response that has been come frght white house. here is darrell issa taking a shot at jay carney yesterday. >> their paid liar, their spokesperson picture behind -- she still making up things about what happens and calling this local rogue. >> so what does mr. carney have to say about that? he was asked about it at today's briefing. >> i hadn't heard that. that's amazing. i am not going to get into a back and forthwith chairman issa. >> well, the white house doesn't want to get their hands dirty so their surrogates are out there doing it for them. former senior advisor tweeted, quote, strong words from an insurance swindler and loose ethically today. that is a mouthful of tweet for you. right? >> yes. >> did w

white house. the first bombshell aimed at the white house press secretary jay carney. listen to what congressman darrell issa had to say about him on cnn's "state of the union." >> their paid liar, their spokesperson, picture behind, he's still making up things about what happens and calling this local rogue. >> president obama's unofficial adviser david plouffe tweeted this in response. strong words from mr. grand theft auto suspected arsonist insurance swindler and loose ethically today, referring to allegations issa faced decades ago. jay carney says he's staying out of it. >> darrell issa over the weekend called you a paid liar for the administration. i wanted to give you an opportunity to respond to that. >> i hadn't heard that. that's amazing. i'm not going to get into a back-and-forth with chairman issa. >> let's get a little back-and-forth here going on with our cnn ibtor ryan land jon king. mr. grand theft auto, that's pretty ugly even under this partisan atmosphere in washington. it's getting nasty. >> it is. remember it was just a couple of weeks ago the attorney general o

carney said and all of our reporting that he is in moscow. what john kerry said from new delhi today is there's been a lot of contact from bob mueller, the fbi director and from bill burns, the deputy secretary of state, to the russians to let them know just how important this is in our relationship not to let him go. >> jay carney used very tough language toward the chinese for their failure to hold and turn over edward snowden. i think that language was directed not at the chinese, it was directed at the russians to underscore how much they hope that the russian government will hold him in moscow and turn him over to the americans, maybe to extradite him back to the united states. we assumed that russia would let him just transit through, be on that flight to cuba. he wasn't on that flight. there was an empty seat there waiting for him. jay carney's language seems to indicate there may be something going on behind the scenes. putin has not been a great friend of the united states in many ways but he is a mercurial guy and maybe they are persuading him to go along with the united state

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happens and calling this local rogue. >> issa suggesting white house press secretary jay carney was lying about those irs officials who targeted republicans being rogue. today jay carney laughed off the accusati accusation. >> darrell issa over the weekend called you a paid liar for the administration. i wanted to give you an opportunity to respond to that. >> i had heard that. that's amazing. i'm not going to get into aba back-and-forth with chairman issa. >> smuns else did not show such restraint. david plouffe, the unofficial adviser to president obama tweeted this, strong words from mr. grand theft auto and suspected arsonist/insurance swindler and loose ethically today. no one was ever charged with anything and issa collected insurance money. 1972, 1982, why are we even talking about this? plouffe told me, quote, the credibility and motivations of accusers are valid here. let's bring in kevin madden cnn contributor and former senior adviser to mitt romney's campaign, glen thrush from politico. why is david plouffe going after darrell issa? >> well, i think he is trying to offer

official white house response was going to be. i must admit, i was not surprised to hear jay carney duck the question. the first question. which always comes from "associated press." the first question was what do you think about what does the president think what do you think about what the white house reaction to what edward snowden did. he, of course, is the young man working for booz allen hamilton who revealed the facts of the nsa data collection program phone records and internet transactions revealed that to "the guardian" and to "the washington post." jay carney had his stock answer ready, the same answer we heard last week when we tried to get jay carney to comment on what the justice department had done to "the associated press" and what the justice department had done to fox news reporter james rosen. here he is. >> there is, obviously an investigation underway into this matter. and for that reason, i am not going to be able to discuss specifically this individual or this investigation. >> bill: will not discuss anything about edward snowden. wouldn't say anything. kept coming

from hong kong. china basically flipped them the bird. jay carney said saying this is not good for our relations with china. >> we're just not buying that this was a technical decision by a hong kong immigration official. this was a deliberate choice by the government to release a fugitive, despite a valid arrest warrant and that decision, unquestionably, has a negative impact on the u.s./china relationship. >> bill: unquestionably. and then carney and secretary of state john kerry yesterday, as well, both issued a warning to russia saying if you want to be on good terms with us, if you want any future deals with us, if you want to be our friend, we expect you not to let edward snowden leave the country. but to expel him. that's the phrase they use to expel him back to the united states. but you know, what russia's going to do, who knows. our relationships with russia have been prickly. and we have more important fish to fry with russia to tell the truth right now. particularly on the deal of arms to syria and arming the assad government. which russia has been doing. we're trying to ge

press secretary jay carney react to congressman issa calling him a paid liar? >> shep, the former journalist knows it rarely pays to make yourself part of the story so he refused to get into a back and forth. he took the high road, said the president was outraged at the irs applying tea party groups and he pointed out the treasury department's inspector general didn't find any indication that the white house was involved. >> when i spoke about the situation, i was referring to the findings of the independent inspector general, who, let's be clear, said that he, both in testimony and in this report, found no evidence that outsiders, those outside the irs, influenced the behavior that took place. >> carney said legitimate congressional oversight is an important way to make sure reameddal action is taken. but he didn't say -- >> shepard: some of jay carney's friends went further. >> not quite so high minded. david pluff took a swing at issa by bringing then distant past. he said, strong worms from looseth cloy today. issa and hi brother was charged with still stealing a car in the 70

nixon and jay carney . to ensure that the emergence of broad national security and not leaked because the consequences can be severe i think it is absolutely right about that i agree with jay carney and i was defending well i think so but again the a.p. narrative doesn't really match up to what he's saying because the a.p. did not publish classified information they actually work for the government and i was most journalists do i think when when asked not to breach security so i think jay carney's point is well taken the problem is the administration itself has had some problems on this larry with with releasing operational details after bin laden was killed they came out that next day and rushed out to tell what happened in the compound room time oh gosh larry hold on that me why. why. do you think. obama's doing this human or do you think they're doing it well i don't think we know i don't think we know i mean it's really the most it seems reason to write it's not well i don't know i mean i think to jump to the conclusion that they have al touristic reasons when it involves journali

it is like nixon and jay carney . to ensure that the emergence of broader national security not leaked because the consequences can be. oh i think it is absolutely right about that i agree with jay carney and i was defending well i think so but again the a.p. narrative doesn't really match up to what he's saying because the a.p. did not publish classified information they actually work for the government and i was most journalists do i think when when asked not to breach security so i think jay carney's point is well taken problem is the administration itself has had some problems on this larry with with releasing operational details after bin laden was killed they came out that next day and rushed out to tell what happened in the compound room oh gosh larry hold on let's that me. why why do you think. obama is doing this you know why do you think they're doing it well i don't think we know i don't think we know i mean they're most it seems regions where it is not well i don't know i mean i think to jump to the conclusion that they have al touristic reasons when it involves jour

in russia. president secretary secretary jay carney said the white house expects russia to cooperate in extraditing an american fugitive. >> given our intense intensified cooperation with russia, after the boston marathon bombings and our history of working with russia on law enforcement matters, including returning numerous high level criminals back to russia at the request of the russian government that we do expect the russian government to look at all the options available to them to expel mr. snowden back to the united states. >> and russia was not alone in provoking the administration's ire. snowden's high profile globe trotting as compounded frustrations with china which the white house condemned for allowing snowden to sneak out. saying the move was a significant setback in the trust between two global powers. >> we are just not buying that this was a technical decision by a hong kong immigration official. this was a deliberate choice by the government to release a fugitive despite a valid arrest warrant, than decision unquestionably has a negative impact on the u.s./china re

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the reins to mark carney. so, that's taking place here this morning. also just to mention that dale, one of the bank of england members, saying they see modest sustained economic growth. so, that's just coming out. we're also hearing they're saying that excessive stimulus is encouraging risk-taking. i see the bank of england member broadbent is indicating that the biggest economic risks still stem from the eurozone. no big surprise there. dale saying the short-run trade-off between outflow and inflation is unusually uncertain. european markets flat to a little bit higher at the moment. for some of them, you're looking at the xetra dax, cac 40 and ftse mib slightly stronger, ftse 100 up by 0.8%, so really turning around from the losses that we saw heading into the close in yesterday's market session. we saw weakness in asia overnight. in japan, not ex-japan, we managed to see a little turn-around there as well. and the u.s. still also very much looking closely at any fed indications of easing. the bond yields all reversing a little bit again from the spikes that we saw yesterday, so

, cleaner. >>> fox news alert, moments ago president secretary jay carney asked if he would describe edward snowden as a traitor. he declined to comment. this as new questions are being raised to what motivated snowden. here's one of his motives. >> you can get up every day, you can go to work, you can collect your large paycheck for relatively little work against the public interest and go to sleep at night after watching your shows. but if you realize that that's the world that you helped create, i don't have special skills. i'm just another guy who sits there day-to-day in the office watches what happens. and you live a privileged life. you're living in hawaii in paradise and making a ton of money, what would it take to make you leave everything behind? the greatest fear that i have regarding the outcome for america of these disclosures is that nothing will change. >> a former fbi criminal profiler, mary ellen, when you hear that explanation, what jumps out at you? >> well, several things jump out at me. one of the first things is he almost sounds like he was bored at his job. i u

carney. he is being described as a financial rockstar. we went to toronto to find out why. >> canada had a pretty good financial crisis, this was shallower than most other advanced economies. it bounced back faster as well. dids the only country that not have to spend money bailing out banks. no wonder the finance minister wanted the head of the canadian central bank to come run the bank of england. >> when the crisis came in the fall of 2008, he was very effective and very helpful and we work as a team together. >> you crossed over there to steal him. i was not shocked. he told me that he had decided to go. >> he cannot take all the credit for what happened, but he seems to have one over the press. he is being called the best governor that canada has ever had. even the wayne gretzky of central banking. wayne gretzky was a famous canadian ice hockey player from the 1990s when the country suffered years of austerity of slow growth. it was painful at the time. the government could have fought to go all out support in the economy. in the boom years, they were teased on wall street in the ci

. jay carney is the white house press secretary. >> we have asked the russians to look at the options available to them to expel mr. snowden back to the united states. >> reporter: carney urged russia not to repeat the actions of chinese authorities who allowed snowden to leave hong kong on sunday. >> this was a deliberate choice by the government to release a fugitive despite a valid arrest warrant and that decision unquestionably has a negative impact on u.s./china relationship. >> reporter: snowden, who has disclosed some of the n.s.a.'s most critical intelligence programs, originally pledged to fight extradition from hong kong. but after the u.s. justice department revealed friday it had charged him under the espionage act snowden ran. the anti-secrecy group wikileaks orchestrated and paid for snowden's escape accompanied by a wikileaks advisor, snowden flew to moscow. from there he was expected to fly to cuba and then to ecuador where authorities are now considering his bid for political asylum. in a phone conference with reporters, wikileaks founder julian assange refused to div

, not crude oil is king. dan carney is glasgow's mayor. >> we are so close to the edge of the earth we can see it from here. >> it always has been boom or bust in glasgow. >> first came the railroad in the late 1,800s, then during the depression, construction of the massive fort peck hydro dam and in the late sixties, closure of the glasgow air force base. carney says folks here want the keystone pipeline. >> this was coming through where the pipeline will come through this town, everything helps. >> reporter: the pipeline's owner transcanada will pay more than $80 million a year in montana taxes, most of that to the six counties in the pipeline's path. some landowners have doubts. >> and if it comes, you see the stake? >> the underground pipeline would cross chad taylor's ranch. he wonders whether the country really needs it. >> the fuel that is made in texas probably ain't going to stay in the united states. it is going to be sold to the highest bidder. how is this going to benefit me as an american? >> reporter: a fourth generation rancher, taylor worries the pipeline will lower

years until he was arrested in california in 2011. bulger's defense attorney j.w. carney acknowledged his client did commit some crimes, including bookmaking, drug trafficking and loan sharking, but he insisted bulger was not a murderer, or worse, a government snitch. the worst thing an irish person could consider doing was becoming an informant, carney said. instead, he argued, bulger paid off law enforcement officers in exchange for information on surveillance and searches that could have brought down bulger's crew. >> the difference between him and your average stock variety gangster is he had the protection of the f.b.i. >> reporter: "boston globe" columnist kevin cullen has covered buller for more than 30 years. is this about honor for him?Ñi >> reputation is everything for whitey bulger. he has been obsessed with it since he was a young hoodlum. that screws up his whole narrative, a narrative he spent his entire life creating. >> reporter: bulger has said his client does plan to take the stand in his own defense. scott, the trial here is expected to last at least three months.

, agriculture, not crude oil, is king. dan carney is glasgow's mayor. >> we're as close to the edge of the earth you can see here. >> reporter: it's always been boom or bust in glasgow. first came the railroad in the late 1800s and then during the depression, the massive construction of the dam and then in the late '60s closure of the air force base. carney says folks here want the keystone pipeline. >> we're kind of glass xl is coming through closer to town. everything helps. >> reporter: the pipeline's owner transcanada will pay more than $80 million a year in montana's taxes, most of that in the six counties on the pipeline's path. some land owners have doubts. >> there's the stake. do you see the stake? >> reporter: the underground pipeline would cross chad taylor's ranch. he wonder's whether the country really needs. >> the fuel made in texas probably ain't going to stay in the united states. it's going to be sold to the highest bidder. how is this going to affect me as an american? >> reporter: a fourth generation rancher, taylor worries it will lower his value especially if it's a s

foundation. >>> jay carney is shrugging off some harsh comments from congressman darrell isa. over the weekend the california republican called carney a paid liar for the obama administration. >> darrell isa over the weekend called you a paid liar for the administration. i want to give you an opportunity to respond to that. >> i heard that. that's amazing. i'm not going to get into a back and forth with chairman isa. >> former rnc chairman michael steel is mulling a run for maryland governor next year. he made the comments to chuck todd on "the daily rundown." the republican served one term as the state's lieutenant governor from 2003 to 2007. he lost a senate bid in 2006. >>> a proposed change to security procedures at the statue of liberty has been scrapped. those wanting to visit the statue will pass through security checkpoints in lower manhattan before boarding a ferry to liberty island. national park service wanted to screen tourists after they boarded boats. and that's your morning's dish of scrambled politics. >>> and now for a look at the forecast, we're joined by bill karins.

carney played out today press secretary carney talking about we demand this and we don't accept that you know we're not talking to children although it seems that this government in its quest for all the power wants to talk down its nose to the world as if they are children but the fact of the matter is these are sovereign nations of china wants to not send him back united states because they don't want him to endure a political prosecution then they apparently have every right not to have the government's upset the power brokers in washington d.c. are very upset the security industrial complex is very upset this is obvious by their actions but everything that they're doing is trying to smoke and mirror shift the blame shift the focus from the information has been revealed until the perp with the person who revealed the information it really is like i said i hope he makes it to where he's going standing upright and breathing but the true story here is the decimation of personal freedom inside of this country the united states and ecuador's reportedly given snowden refugee papers well

, white house press secretary jay carney said the united states still needs more evidence. >> we need to be able to have the kind of evidence that is -- can be corroborated and reviewed if we are going to make policy decisions. >> carney said that the french announcement was entirely consistent with previous assessments by the u.s. he repeated the u.s. position that if chemical weapons were, in fact, used in syria, they would have been deployed by government forces. president barack obama had indicated that he may take military action if chemical weapons were indeed used. but he's been cautious about further involvement in syria out of concern over his country's tight fiscal condition and getting caught up in the turmoil there. >>> now, united nations investigators are also weighing in. they say it's likely that chemical weapons have been used in syria. the investigators cited four attacks during march and april. but they did not specify which side used them. chemical weapons are banned under international law. the investigators say they're very concerned about routine killings and tortu

certain number of signatures, the white house has to respond. jay carney, press secretary said we're not doing that on this one, but if he is painted as a hero by some, what's to prevent some other contractor that works somewhere in the u.s. government from doing something similar, is there nothing we can do? >> that for me is like says look, he made us aware a contractor has access to such important national security. he literally was able to tell where exactly all the intel is around the world, had access to all the countries. how did he get to hong kong? nsa wants him, looking for him, i can't get through newark airport with a bottle of water, he can get to hong kong. here is another question. no one in the world would think the irs would target conservative groups. >> i agree. >> a big, massive government agency. why wouldn't this massive government agency do something that that one would, so the question is at some point do they selectively figure who they're going to spy on, do they selectively look and say look what we found from three years ago, look what we did. >> say you w

the briefing and jay carney made the point clearly if he is associating with china, and russia and cuba, and ecuador, then he can't be a good guy. and if he took this job at booze allen, which of course raises the question why does somebody who has only been there for three months have access to all of this information. look, i really believe him when he said his motive was to make americans aware of what our country is doing. michael i'll never forget the very first video, the closing lines. he said this is what is happening. this is the truth. it's up to you to decide whether we should be doing this. >> michael: yes, and the president reminded us that that is where the debate is supposed to begin. this will -- i feel this way, this guy broke the law, but at least we can have a debate now. we're still waiting for president obama to lead a debate on this subject and that hasn't happened. >> and you can't have a debate when one side says that's classified. we can't tell you how long we keep this records. we can't tell you what we do with all of this information. hell, if all of that

: spokesman jay carney noted the white house, like congress, is not subject to foia, so he would not say whether white house officials have multiple e-mail accounts although carney stressed when it comes to the various controversies confronting the administration, officials are turning over documents to congress from all of the e-mail accounts. >> these work accounts are not secret. they're not subject to foia requests and subject to congressional inquiry just like their public addresses. >> reporter: republican david vitter said that type of transparency did not happen when he investigated then epa administrato lisa jackson whose use of an alias e-mail account was not disclosed to congress. >> we've battled over that for months. secondly, unless they disclose all of the accounts that exist, we have to sort of take their word for it, that they know about these accounts that checkd that's not good enough, particularly when they've clearly lied and hidden facts in many other scandals and cases. reporter: jay carney rebutted that by saying compared to other administrations when it comes to

and twisting arms to get the russias to send him back. yay carney says the assumption is whatever information that snowden had on four computers he reportedly took with him, has been compromised, meaning that information is available to the russians and the chinese and includes more than what snowden has released so far. carney says the u.s. revoked snowden's passport in plenty of time to keep hem from flying from hong kong to moscow, and carney blames china's government for letting that happen. >> we're just not buying this was a technical decision by hong kong immigration official. this is a deliberate choice by the government to release a fugitive, despite a valid arrest warrant, and that decision unquestionably has a negative impact on the u.s.-china relationship. >> the implication is that the u.s. issue rescues will suffer. >> shepard: critics from the g.o.p. say the white house has not handled this well. >> the president says the u.s. has been in contact withthe counterparts in russia and china and with other countries that snowden might conceivably want to flee to they won

begin with his take on white house spokesman jay carney. >> so i pretty much don't have anything to do in this segment. i'm going to go out and get a dr. pepper if you don't mind. and then you just, you know, kind of begin with jay carney and just go. >> well, they are going it audit dr. pepper because they don't think he wants obama care so they are going to go after him. you know, billy, somehow later this week sandra fluke manages so get knocked up i'm never going to quit laughing. this is absolutely rich. yippee yi mrs. fuddrucker, looks like we have got a convoy ♪ convoy. >> did you see holder today, is he shakier than a jack hammer operator playing django on lunch break. >> what about jay carney he has a worse bluff than marty holding pocket full of ace. >> public policy polling, ppp. and i'm going to read the questions and we will put them on the screen and miller is going to comment. unbelievable. okay. lee harvey oswald did he act alone in killing president kennedy or was there some larger conspiracy. acted alone 25. larger conspiracy 51. not sure 24. of course did i kill ke

refer you to the justice department. >> don mccormick joins us.w'(p% jay carney on the hot seat now he's getting the heat from us. it's amazing almost a love affair between the media and the president seems to be over. >> i think so. for now especially with the doj and the e-mails of james rose enand others. i think that the welfare over ride. you think eventually the media will come back. people concerned about civil leb berts they have locked at other issues. liberals will eventually come after the president. seems like they are on the rocks now. >> first time going back to jay carney, i think we looked at the political implications of these c scandals. he is going to be one of the victims of it. he nayed the -- made the statements they were -- i think it is wrong his credibility could take a giant hit on this. >> it would be easy to throw him under the bus. if they wanted to sacrifice somebody jay carney would be an easy start. >> political implications of the scandal. doj, benghazi or the irs? what do you think they are feeling the most going into the 2014 mid term? >> i think t

big way, he went on a sunday talk she and referred to jay carney as a paid liar. and then we saw everybody from robert gibbes. who said he must apologize. over carne saying it is a cincinnati rogue irs. and issa said he is a paid ligi the goods, let's see them. well, we have transscripts and david plouffe who is very tight with the president coming out and saying that darril issa is an arsonist and insurance fraud. >> 1972 arrest. youthful indiscretion. what does that tell you? >> they are freaking out and they need to some doing that if they want to get through. this they would like to turn darril issa in ken starr and evil character and maybe they can try that, but the truth is, this is not about the sex life of anybody or anything like. that this is an abuse by the least trusted and liked government agency, the irs taking shots at the president's political opponents. it will not wash to talk about darril issa is doing in 1972 and tells me that the anger stems from fear. issa is not ideal with the republican when he uses hot words like liar, that's not a good thing to do. they

against jay carney, the president's spokesman, is obviously getting a lot of attention. what do you make of it? politicians usually kind of dance around that word. >> reporter: they almost always do. issa's aides say that he called carney a liar because carney has said from the white house podium that tea party targeting was the work of cincinnati irs employees, but issa really believes that that's not true, that the washington irs employees as we heard him, they were involved. there's no love lost between issa and carney and the white house. we know that because of this and the benghazi controversy but anderson, it is unusual to use the "l" word and even more jarring in this case because republicans i'm told were given very clear directive from the republican leadership not to overplay their hand politically in this, not distract from fact-finding with over the top rhetoric and some republicans i'm talking to are a little bit worried that this is exactly what they were worried about. >> you first reported on friday on excessive spending in the past of the irs like the cupid shuffle

house press secretary jay carney. today he got a chance to respond. wendell goler is live at the white house. wendell, what do you have to say? >> shep, jay refused to join the name-calling. he said the president was outraged at the irs targeting a tea party group applying for tax exempt status. he suggested if congressman issa doesn't believe him he should read the report of the treasury department's inspector general. >> when i spoke about the situation, i was referring to the findings of the independent inspector general, who let's be clear, said that he, both in testimony and in his report found no evidence that outsiders, those outside the irs, influenced the behavior that took place there. >> carney also said legitimate congressional oversight is an important finding the facts and taking remedial action. he would not say if issa suspicioned that irs targeting was ordered from washington was legitimate oversight, shepard. >> shepard: jay carney didn't make this you fire i fire back situation. but others did get into that back and forth. >> former presidential advisor david plouffe

defense? >> the defense is actually novel because jay carney, who is the lead attorney for whitey bulger, went in there and admitted in open court that his client was a criminal. he said his client was an extortionist, a book maker, and a very big surprise to us, he admitted his client was involved in drug dealing. >> ifill: which he never admitted before, right? >> no, no, no, no, he would never admit particularly that. that was a sore spot. and particularly his apologists in south boston and other places would always say that whitey would never touch drugs whereas the evidence was overwhelming that he made millions by shaking down drug dealers. but the evidence now even more specific that he was involved in actual movement of cocaine. so -- but jay carney, his lawyer admitted to all that. so in some respects they went in there in their opening statement and admitted it to a number of predicate acts that would find him guilty of racketeering, which he is charged. but what's clear by the defense, what jay carney outlined, is whitey bulger is not interested in getting acquitted of everyth