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snowden is expect to do board a flight from moscow to ecuador. >> ecuador still deciding if it will grant asylum to the man on the run. kelly wright is live for us with the latest. >> edward snowden is a man on the run to some extent considered to be a man without a country. the state department annulled his passport but that did not stop him from boarding a plane in hong kong and flying to moscow in russia. snowden who admits to leaking information about the nsa surveillance program that is collect data from e-mails and phone calls for terror attacks is now charged with espionage. they want him extradited to face justice. >> i
snowden is expect to do board a flight from moscow to ecuador. >> ecuador still deciding if it will grant asylum to the man on the run. kelly wright is live for us with the latest. >> edward snowden is a man on the run to some extent considered to be a man without a country. the state department annulled his passport but that did not stop him from boarding a plane in hong kong and flying to moscow in russia. snowden who admits to leaking information about the nsa surveillance...
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here. to make some of those threats. with regard to ecuador, for instance, where snowden is supposedly looking to phonily ask for asylum. members of congress coming out and saying, look, ecuador, free trade agreement with you that's up for renewal next month. and you better think hard before you give this guy sanctuary because we are going to block access to your goods. you know. the president has not been the one making this, outlining the issues. >> there's some -- evidence that snowden may have been working with some other people before he took the job at the consultant booze allen and had so much access to the nsa files. he was working with apparently with the reporter glen greenwald before he took the job. what -- do we know everything yet about the store write? is there a lot more to come? >> there is a lot more to come, paul. the idea one guy could have pulled all of this off, he had help in hong kong. he had safe houses there. regardless of how the president once characterized it, the fbi and national intelligence has got to chase this guy down and pursue this story
here. to make some of those threats. with regard to ecuador, for instance, where snowden is supposedly looking to phonily ask for asylum. members of congress coming out and saying, look, ecuador, free trade agreement with you that's up for renewal next month. and you better think hard before you give this guy sanctuary because we are going to block access to your goods. you know. the president has not been the one making this, outlining the issues. >> there's some -- evidence that...
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. >>> admitted nsa leaker edward snowden is on the run at this hour. looks like he is headed to ecuador. we won't know for sure until he turns up there. for now, we know he left china, is inside russia tonight. we are told the u.s. state department revoked his american passport. our authorities are actively trying to hunt him down. the u.s. is warning other countries now not to let him in. i am harris faulkner. this is the fox report. new details tonight breaking by the hour on this sunday. first about revoking snowden's passport. the state department just a short time ago confirming to fox news the goal is to prevent him from any additional international travel. but tonight he's a fugitive that's definitely been on the move. edward snowden, former contractor for the national security agency who is wanted n honeo on espionage charges. some americans consider him a hero because he told us about the monitoring of phone records through verizon, and potentially other phone companies. others see him as a traitor. our government wanted hong kong to hand him over originally. that did not happen. w
. >>> admitted nsa leaker edward snowden is on the run at this hour. looks like he is headed to ecuador. we won't know for sure until he turns up there. for now, we know he left china, is inside russia tonight. we are told the u.s. state department revoked his american passport. our authorities are actively trying to hunt him down. the u.s. is warning other countries now not to let him in. i am harris faulkner. this is the fox report. new details tonight breaking by the hour on this...
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and ecuador and wikileaks and russia are working as thick as thieves. >> shannon: how does it impact our relationship with hong kong. we had a statement from their government that the documents that we had put together, justice department there was something that was lacking. doj says it was cooperating and provided information as per the original agreement we have with hong kong. they had additional questions. we were in process the justice department in replying and responding to that when snowden took off. hong kong says they are going to continue to discuss what happened but it doesn't sound like anything positive between the two sides? >> clearly not. in the past we had a close working relationship on extradition of suspects back to the u.s. hong kong always coughed up people. this time i think, hong kong is don't do anything on important matters without first consulting with the chinese. clearing they were talking with w beijing with this. i think we really have a china problem. >> shannon: there is a speculation that snowden may continue where he is on possibly to cuba and the
and ecuador and wikileaks and russia are working as thick as thieves. >> shannon: how does it impact our relationship with hong kong. we had a statement from their government that the documents that we had put together, justice department there was something that was lacking. doj says it was cooperating and provided information as per the original agreement we have with hong kong. they had additional questions. we were in process the justice department in replying and responding to that...
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on this flight to cuba, one passenger photographing his empty seat. assange living at the ecuador embassy to avoid extradition to sweden on sex charges. the south american country is considering snowden's case. >>translator: there are some governments that act more on their own interests, but we do not. we act on our principles and take care of the human rights of people. >> reporter: russia may avoid arresting snowden, citing he is in transit, not staying in moscow. traveling in india, secretary of state john kerry signals there may be consequences for china and russia if they don't cooperate. >> it would be deeply troubling obviously if they have adequate notice and not with standing that make a decision willfully to ignore that and not live by the standards of the law. >> reporter: with snowden's travel initially leaving hawaii and over the weekend from hong kong, via moscow to an unknown destination, kerry seemed to sneer at the route. >> i wonder if mr. snowden chose china and russia as assistance in his flight from justice because they're such powerful bastions of internatio
on this flight to cuba, one passenger photographing his empty seat. assange living at the ecuador embassy to avoid extradition to sweden on sex charges. the south american country is considering snowden's case. >>translator: there are some governments that act more on their own interests, but we do not. we act on our principles and take care of the human rights of people. >> reporter: russia may avoid arresting snowden, citing he is in transit, not staying in moscow. traveling in...
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ecuador and other countries. yesterday russian state media said he expected to catch a flight on aeroflot and take a flight to cuba. but that night took off and he was nowhere to be seen onboard, and airline officials say snowden booked this seat,17-a. was empty. if ecuador does take him in, it would a about blow to the united states. ecuador is giving asylum tole assange but its government passed a law cracking down on the freedom for the press. so julian assange said ed snowden is safe and the white house says its assumption is that the suspect is still in russia. its assumption. we have heard about the federal charges on friday. let's get to catherine her around for an update. we're learning more about who may be traveling with ed snowden. >> that's right. nsa leaker edward snowden is traveling with a british activist described as a former girlfriend of julian assange, and in that 90-minute conference call this morning with reporters, assange says they're good, feeling comfortable, and their situation is under control without offering specifics on their location or security. >
ecuador and other countries. yesterday russian state media said he expected to catch a flight on aeroflot and take a flight to cuba. but that night took off and he was nowhere to be seen onboard, and airline officials say snowden booked this seat,17-a. was empty. if ecuador does take him in, it would a about blow to the united states. ecuador is giving asylum tole assange but its government passed a law cracking down on the freedom for the press. so julian assange said ed snowden is safe and...
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to ecuador. he was expected to be on a flight from moscow to cuba this morning but ended up being a no show and u.s. officials believe he is still in russia. with me now is mark mukasey a former federal prosecutor who has worked on extradition cases. mark, this is amazing. we have all these issues outstanding with russia right now. syria, and russian adoptions. now. this we think he is still in russia but we really don't know, do we? >> we don't know. i will tell you this the best made extradition plans can go awry. i have extradited hundreds of people from colombia. this process can be laden with paperwork. it can be jammed up for years. in a case like, this you would think that they would streamline it. >> laura: so he this would get it right. >> it's an urgent case and there is exception in extradition cases. >> laura: in hong kong we hear the papers weren't quite in order. it all seems like the kind of excuse. they knew he was important us. and the fact is china and russia have no state interest in rushing this along themselves. they want to find out what this guy knows if they
to ecuador. he was expected to be on a flight from moscow to cuba this morning but ended up being a no show and u.s. officials believe he is still in russia. with me now is mark mukasey a former federal prosecutor who has worked on extradition cases. mark, this is amazing. we have all these issues outstanding with russia right now. syria, and russian adoptions. now. this we think he is still in russia but we really don't know, do we? >> we don't know. i will tell you this the best made...
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ecuador where he's seeking asylum. snowden who claims to have leaked top secret documents about u.s. surveillance programs slipped under the radar again today after failing to board the havana-bound tphraoeupt he was expected tflight he was expected to be on. his seat was taken by another passenger as u.s. officials scramble to figure out where he is. >> i wondered if mr. snowden chose china and russia as assistance in his -- you know in his flight from justice because they are such powerful bass te bastions of internet freedom. and i wonder if he raised questions of internet freedom because that's what he champions. he placed himself above the law having betrayed his country. jenna: we haven't heard from snowden in recent days. lindsey graham is urging our government to do everything of it can to track down this former nsa contractor. >> are the freedom trail is not exactly china, russia, cuba, venezuela, i hope we'll chase him to the ends of the earth, bring him to justice and let the russians know the there will be consequences if they harbor this guy. >> catherine herridge is li
ecuador where he's seeking asylum. snowden who claims to have leaked top secret documents about u.s. surveillance programs slipped under the radar again today after failing to board the havana-bound tphraoeupt he was expected tflight he was expected to be on. his seat was taken by another passenger as u.s. officials scramble to figure out where he is. >> i wondered if mr. snowden chose china and russia as assistance in his -- you know in his flight from justice because they are such...
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eye. we ought to be clear with ecuador they are going to pay a price if they take snowden. we should cut off aid of $10 million. no more trade status. preferred trade status. that will put them in on box, because colombia and peru have free trade agreements with us. no business visas. there is 85,000 business visas between ecuador and u.s. putin it's a complicated relationship. i agree with john mccain. he ought to pay a price here because he goes out of his way to stick his finger in the eye of america. he is not -- he has lots of vulnerabilities. >> john: what senator schumer was referring to john biden to ecuador please do not give asylum in your country. president of ecuador, we're not going to think about that now because he is not in territory and maybe we will and maybe we won't. then on national television he made grievances against the united states. should the vice president have called him? >> i'm not saying he should or shouldn't or vice president should or shouldn't. we have a deal with he is countries in realistic fashion. they are not friends of ours. they will do what
eye. we ought to be clear with ecuador they are going to pay a price if they take snowden. we should cut off aid of $10 million. no more trade status. preferred trade status. that will put them in on box, because colombia and peru have free trade agreements with us. no business visas. there is 85,000 business visas between ecuador and u.s. putin it's a complicated relationship. i agree with john mccain. he ought to pay a price here because he goes out of his way to stick his finger in the eye...
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fleeing hong kong in apparent bid to seek asylum eventually in ecuador. but ecuador's president says snowden's plan hit a major roadblock, one his fate tied to russian officials, and he is blaming his country's console in london saying they committed a serious error without consulting any ecuadorian officials when they issued letter of safe passage for edward snowden. steve centanni with more from washington. steve? >> reporter: the fate of nsa leaker edward snowden is now in the hands of russia, not ecuador, that according to ecuadorian president who also said he believes snowden can't leave the moscow airport without his u.s. passport, which has been revoked. one key u.s. lawmaker says vladimir putin should be dealt with firmly for harboring snowden. >> this is a direct slap in the face to the united states of america. we should be now i hope finally realizing what vladimir putin is. he is an old colonel kgb app ranch i can, and dreams of the restoration of the russian empire. >> reporter: as for the leaker, nancy pelosi says he broke the law and it is fine with her if he is stuck
fleeing hong kong in apparent bid to seek asylum eventually in ecuador. but ecuador's president says snowden's plan hit a major roadblock, one his fate tied to russian officials, and he is blaming his country's console in london saying they committed a serious error without consulting any ecuadorian officials when they issued letter of safe passage for edward snowden. steve centanni with more from washington. steve? >> reporter: the fate of nsa leaker edward snowden is now in the hands...
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hong kong to ecuador or venezuela or iceland or the other places, why now? the guy said, look, interpol may have a warrant out if this guy and we have asked presumably interpol to watch out no this guy traveling. the airline as much as anything else, and the russian airline, it seems the russian government is colluding with the chinese government to avoid bring this guy to justice. >>chris: and wikileaks is involved and though say they have lawyers on the plane but wikileaks supports the organization run by julian assange that leaked thousands and thousands of documents they got from manning and supposedly there are diplomats according to wikileaks from another unnamed country, but you do not know if it is russia or, perhaps, the country where he hopes to seek asylum. so this is quite a tour. bob, this is pretty special. >> it should not be turned into a circumstance tits where we are chasing o.j. in his white bronco. the real question, here, it is, whose interests are being served by the leaks? and we do not know, frankly, it clearly is a serious matter, but there has been no demonstra
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conference from ecuador's foreign minister. they believe edward snowden is being percent cute. they are considering his request for asylum. and his request for asylum is being characterized by ecuador as a human rights abuse, this broad surveillance. john kerry signaled there may be consequences for china and russia if it's shown they failed to cooperate with the u.s. on snowden. >> with we expect to the china-russia relationship and where this puts us, you know, it would be deeply troubling obviously if they have adequate notice and notwithstanding that they make the decision to ignore that and not live about it standard of the law. >> reporter: the russian airline confirmed there is a ticket in snowden's name traveling from moscow to cuba. that flight left this morning apparently without the nsa laker joan board. it's possible the rugs will not release snowden. martha: that's a tricky walk. i don't know how you get to the airport without going through the checkpoints and officially being in the country. there is the whole issue of whether there are more leaks to come from edward snowd
conference from ecuador's foreign minister. they believe edward snowden is being percent cute. they are considering his request for asylum. and his request for asylum is being characterized by ecuador as a human rights abuse, this broad surveillance. john kerry signaled there may be consequences for china and russia if it's shown they failed to cooperate with the u.s. on snowden. >> with we expect to the china-russia relationship and where this puts us, you know, it would be deeply...
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snowden's next stop was venezuela. and ecuador's foreign minister says ed snowden applied for asylum in that country, which is also sheltering the wikileaks its embassy in london. julian assange says wikileaks helped snowden make his escape so earlier today a bunch of journalist got on snowden's flight from who's co-to havana. airline official says snowden did not. in fact, here is his empty seat, 17 a by the window. president obama says the u.s. is doing everything it can to get snowden on a flight to the u.s. >> we're following all the appropriate legal channels and working with various other countries to make sure that rule of law is observed. >> snowden reportedly decided to leave hong kong at the last minute. that's what one of his lawyers tell the "wall street journal" which the parent company of this network owns. they celebrated snowden's birthday with pizza, friday chicken and sausages. ed snowden made what the lawyer called a very sudden decision to get out of hong kong and didn't even take any luggage with hill. catherine herridge is on top fox story ed snowden shou
snowden's next stop was venezuela. and ecuador's foreign minister says ed snowden applied for asylum in that country, which is also sheltering the wikileaks its embassy in london. julian assange says wikileaks helped snowden make his escape so earlier today a bunch of journalist got on snowden's flight from who's co-to havana. airline official says snowden did not. in fact, here is his empty seat, 17 a by the window. president obama says the u.s. is doing everything it can to get snowden on a...
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. >>> there's still no sign of nsa leaker edward snowden in cuba, ecuador, iceland, or any place else, actually. he is believed to still be at the moscow airport. meantime, ecuador is reigning in expectations it may welcome him as a political refugee any time soon. catherine herridge has tonight's update. >> reporter: the state department tried to dismiss ecuador's demand the obama administration explain in writing why the nsa leaker edward snowden should be denied asylum. >> will the united states be submitting a written request to ecuador? >> we will continue to be in discussion with them. >> reporter: ecuador foreign minister said it could take months for the nation to decide, comparing the snowden case to that of the case of julian assange, living at the ecuadorian embassy in london. >> it took time to make the decision with assange. >> reporter: the russian embassy told fox a transit visa is good for 72 hours. theoretically, it should expire today. after that, a traveler needs a tourist visa. the state department said a one way flight to the u.s. is another option. >> that's the
. >>> there's still no sign of nsa leaker edward snowden in cuba, ecuador, iceland, or any place else, actually. he is believed to still be at the moscow airport. meantime, ecuador is reigning in expectations it may welcome him as a political refugee any time soon. catherine herridge has tonight's update. >> reporter: the state department tried to dismiss ecuador's demand the obama administration explain in writing why the nsa leaker edward snowden should be denied asylum....
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moment from now edward snowden is expect to do board a flight from moscow to ecuador. >> ecuador still deciding if it will grant asylum to the man on the run. kelly wright is live for us with the latest. >> edward snowden is a man on the run to some extent considered to be a man without a country. the state department annulled his passport but that did not stop him from boarding a plane in hong kong and flying to moscow in russia. snowden who admits to leaking information about the nsa surveillance program that is collect data from e-mails and phone calls for terror attacks is now charged with espionage. they want him extradited to face justice. >> i want to get him caught and brought back for trial. i think we need to know exactly what he has. he could have a lot lot more. it may really put people until jeopardy. i don't know. but i think the chase is on, and we will have to see what happens. >> they should use every legal avenue we have to bring it back to the united states and listen if he believes he's doing something good-bye the way he went outside all of the whistleblower
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president of ecuador to reject the nsa leaker's asylum bid. but will ecuador listen or snub the united states. >>> and living the high life. prisoners at gitmo with a brand-new gym after rejecting american made equipment, cons t cultural and the flag not flown near them. >>> and lady gaga taking liberty with the national anthem. ♪ say does that spar spangled ♪ >> did this cross the line? i guess she mixed up some lyrics there. some new lyrics she's adding some things. "fox & friends" begins right now. >>> good morning, everyone. thanks so much for joining us bright and early. great to have you here. >> if ever asked when you guys sing the national anthem. >> i've learned that lesson. >> so easy to screw up the national anthem. >> have you ever learned that -- have you ever been asked? >> i've never been asked. >> throwing out a first pitch would be bad, too. >> nor will i ever be asked. there, i don't have to worry about it. >> much more on that coming up with the show. plus reading headlines. >> let me do that now. new overnight ex-patriots player and alleged murderer aaron
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hero instead of somebody that's going to china, russia, cuba, maybe venezuela. >> where did ecuador come in? >> because they give asylum. >> he knows these countries have horrible human rights records. >> he will find out real soon. >> you're the best. thank you. >>> meantime, do you ever wonder what edward snowden is thinking? we can't do that because he is a fugitive doing his best to stay out of the country. but we have john mcafee, former software titan many call the charlie sheen of the business world. this will whet your appfirst. >> i had nothing to do with mcafee software over 15 years. i had more pressing things to do. my name is mike and i quit smoking. chantix... it's a non-nicotine pill. i didn't want nicotine to give up nicotine. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. [ mike ] when i was taking the chantix, it reduced the urge to smoke. [ malennouncer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping cha
hero instead of somebody that's going to china, russia, cuba, maybe venezuela. >> where did ecuador come in? >> because they give asylum. >> he knows these countries have horrible human rights records. >> he will find out real soon. >> you're the best. thank you. >>> meantime, do you ever wonder what edward snowden is thinking? we can't do that because he is a fugitive doing his best to stay out of the country. but we have john mcafee, former software...
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kong, then to russia, then over to cuba and maybe ecuador. >>steve: this morning n.s.a. leaker edward snowden remains on the loose and he's about to make his next move, we believe. live in washington with the latest. >> good morning to you. edward snowden is a man on the run and is considered to be to some extent a man now without a country. the state department annulled edward snowden's u.s. passport but that did not stop him from boarding a plane in hong kong and then flying to moscow and russia. snowden, who admits to leaking information about the n.s.a.'s surveillance program that collect data from e-mails and phone calls to thwart terror attacks, is charged with espionage. the united states wants him extradited to face justice. >> i want to get him caught and brought back for trial. i think we need to know exactly what he has. he could have a lot, lot more. it may really put people in jeopardy. i don't know, but i think the chase is on, and we'll have to see what happens. >> wikileaks says snowden will be on the move again today with plans to leave moscow for havana, cuba
kong, then to russia, then over to cuba and maybe ecuador. >>steve: this morning n.s.a. leaker edward snowden remains on the loose and he's about to make his next move, we believe. live in washington with the latest. >> good morning to you. edward snowden is a man on the run and is considered to be to some extent a man now without a country. the state department annulled edward snowden's u.s. passport but that did not stop him from boarding a plane in hong kong and then flying to...
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ecuador. >> yes but the same as cuba, flying over country with a close relationship with the u.s. we can get that plane on the ground. i don't think he's going to ecuador either. if he's doing that, he's dumber than i think he is. >> what should the u.s. have done, presuming our main goal is to get this guy in american custody? is there any way the obama administration could have done it differently? >> it would really be hard. i think what they were doing is they didn't first a ask for snowden. the reason is if he's in custody, it means they not only get custody of him, they get custody of information on the laptops. if the hong kong lis get that, it's clearly going to china. what the obama administration is trying to do, maybe if snowden keeps quiet, this will not happen. i think that was a false hope. snowden really is intending to hurt the united states. he is malicious. he's not a whistleblower. he's trying to do all these things to undermine us. >> gordon joining us with your expertise. he'll be sticking around. we need your help, international treaties, relationships around th
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a statement. they say he is bound for the republic of ecuador. he is being escorted by diplomats and legal advisors from wikileaks. some u.s. lawmakers are hoping the fugitive will get caught. >> i want to get him caught and brought back for trial. i think we need to know exactly what he has. he could have a lot more. it may really put people in jeopardy. i don't know, but i think the chase is on. >> reporter: ecuador foreign minister that he did request political asylum in ecuador. >> gregg: does he have support in washington? >> there are not a lot of support but some think the spy investigation is going too far. some give them the benefit of the doubt. listen. >> i do think when history look at they are going to contrast the behavior of james clamor with edward snowden. mr. clapper lied in congress and defiance of law in the name of security. mr. snowden told the truth in the name of privacy. >> reporter: source familiar with the case tells fox news snowden's u.s. passport has been revoked because of the felony arrest warrant against him. state department said such a person, quote
a statement. they say he is bound for the republic of ecuador. he is being escorted by diplomats and legal advisors from wikileaks. some u.s. lawmakers are hoping the fugitive will get caught. >> i want to get him caught and brought back for trial. i think we need to know exactly what he has. he could have a lot more. it may really put people in jeopardy. i don't know, but i think the chase is on. >> reporter: ecuador foreign minister that he did request political asylum in...
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having the trouble getting the asylum he wanted in ecuador. >> that's right, harris. we're waiting for a response from the ecuadorian embassy here in washington after reports first appearing in the guardian newspaper that ecuador validated his documents designed to get him through this airport in moscow to ecuador pending a final decision on his status as the state department warned today against helping the nsa leaker we're making consistent point that might take him as a final deston nation that somebody wanted on serious felony charges and wield like him returned to the united states and so we he have had law enforcement cooperation and other types of cooperation with some these countries including ecuador. we would like to see that continue. but clearly detrimental if that cooperation isn't received. >> and the founder of wikileaks julian assange is reportedly a source of contention. his group helping snowden and likely getting him those asylum travel documents. the fact that assange is front and center has apparently irritated the ecuadorian president among others, harris. >> harris
having the trouble getting the asylum he wanted in ecuador. >> that's right, harris. we're waiting for a response from the ecuadorian embassy here in washington after reports first appearing in the guardian newspaper that ecuador validated his documents designed to get him through this airport in moscow to ecuador pending a final decision on his status as the state department warned today against helping the nsa leaker we're making consistent point that might take him as a final deston...
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faulkner. the latest now on edward snowden, the fugitive nsa leaker looks to be headed for ecuador. earlier today he arrived in moscow from hong kong. we understand that's where he is now, inside russia. we are told the state department revoked his passport to try to keep him from any further international travel. wikileaks leader julian assange says he is helping edward snowden get asylum in ecuador. >>> and the health of former south african president nelson mandela has gotten worse. he is in critical condition. he has been in and out of the hospital since june 8th and really all year with a recurring lung infection. south african current president visited him. mandela is 94 years old. he spent nearly three decades in prison for opposition to apartheid. now "huckabee." huckabee. n(applause) huckabee. >> we are ba >>> we are back with our doctors. want to bring in another doctor, love having her. dr. selg, some of these aren't new to you, you have been doing a number of these in your practice, not taking insurance. when obama care requires people to have insurance, what they do, t
faulkner. the latest now on edward snowden, the fugitive nsa leaker looks to be headed for ecuador. earlier today he arrived in moscow from hong kong. we understand that's where he is now, inside russia. we are told the state department revoked his passport to try to keep him from any further international travel. wikileaks leader julian assange says he is helping edward snowden get asylum in ecuador. >>> and the health of former south african president nelson mandela has gotten...
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million flights from hong kong to ecuador or venezuela or iceland or the other places he wants to go. why moscow? the guy said, look, think about it. there may be a warrant out for this guy. we asked in tee rpol to look out for this guy. it is a russian government-controlled airline. it would not presumably serve an arrest warrant. they are taking british airways and they may do that. the russian government is basically colluding with the chinese government with wherever he is going to end up to avoid bringing this guy to justice. >> we should point out that wikileaks is very much involved in this. they say there are lawyers on the plane with snowden. wikileaks is run by julian assange and leaked thousands and thousands of documents they got from bradley manning. supposedly there are diplomats according to wikileaks, diplomats from another country, perhaps russia or perhaps the country he is seeking asylum with snowden. this is quite a tour. bob woodward, this is pretty special. >> but it shouldn't be turned into a circus where we are chasing o.j. simpson in his white bronco. the rea
million flights from hong kong to ecuador or venezuela or iceland or the other places he wants to go. why moscow? the guy said, look, think about it. there may be a warrant out for this guy. we asked in tee rpol to look out for this guy. it is a russian government-controlled airline. it would not presumably serve an arrest warrant. they are taking british airways and they may do that. the russian government is basically colluding with the chinese government with wherever he is going to end up...
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president of ecuador said yesterday that she -- well, maybe another couple of months before we begin to look at this. so all of the nations right now are stuck with the problem of what do you do with snowden? how do you get him? how do you control what it is that he has to say? i think that snowden started something for which there is no immediate answer. in the case of putin, it is one of those situations be careful what you ask for. just might get it. >> exactly. >> what is the snowden arevealing about the united states' relationship with russia and china and ecuador and what should the u.s. do now in response to the two main countries, the -- russia and china? >> well, what the u.s. is obviously doing is to -- supplying all kinds of pressure quietly on both china and russia but now much more russia to try to do something to really get rid of snowden and return him to the united states russians at this point are stuck as well as the u.s. and as well as china. there are certain rules when you are traveling from one country to another, you have to have proper papers. you have to know wh
president of ecuador said yesterday that she -- well, maybe another couple of months before we begin to look at this. so all of the nations right now are stuck with the problem of what do you do with snowden? how do you get him? how do you control what it is that he has to say? i think that snowden started something for which there is no immediate answer. in the case of putin, it is one of those situations be careful what you ask for. just might get it. >> exactly. >> what is the...
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airport. vice-president bide boyd requesting that ecuador reject snowden's request for asylum. and the president of ecuador said there will be no request unless he is on ecuadorian soil. >> the woman in the center of the agency's targeting scandal may be compelled to testify in front of congress. lois lerner said she did nothing wrong and envoked the fifth amendment and refused to answer the questions in an appearance before the house oversight committee. and now the committee run by republican darril issa voted on party lines that lerner gave up her fifth amendment right in part by her opening remarks. lerner is on leave after refusing a request to quit. the debate in washington is growing about what will happen in congress's quest for answers. will lerner be ordered to testify. and what will happen if she refuses? >> lerner's attorney put out a statement after the yesterday vote and what did it say. >> william taylor didn't think much of the vote and the house oversight committee is a highly polarized forum. taylor went on to say. a party line vote doesn't affect anyone's constitutio
airport. vice-president bide boyd requesting that ecuador reject snowden's request for asylum. and the president of ecuador said there will be no request unless he is on ecuadorian soil. >> the woman in the center of the agency's targeting scandal may be compelled to testify in front of congress. lois lerner said she did nothing wrong and envoked the fifth amendment and refused to answer the questions in an appearance before the house oversight committee. and now the committee run by...
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the transit zone of the moscow airport the u.s. state department warned ecuador that granting asylum would not go unpunished. >> what would not be good is them granting mr. snowden asylum. that would create difficulties for our relationship. >> reporter: the state department tried to play down reports that snowden discussions were too informal and moscow wants an official request from washington. snowden left hong kong a week ago. they chastised the chinese. >> they knew he was a wanted fugitive and intentionally let him go. >> the head of the senate intelligence committee believes snowden may have 200 documents to release. the deputy national security adviser ben roads said it is nos clear how much information snow dense took. this raise it is question was he using more than one computer log-in because fox news is told an audit of his computer use should show which documents he downloaded. >> news from the boston bombing investigation. >> today a 30-count indictment was used against dzhokhar tsarnaev who is accused of injuring people at the boston marathon finish line april 1
the transit zone of the moscow airport the u.s. state department warned ecuador that granting asylum would not go unpunished. >> what would not be good is them granting mr. snowden asylum. that would create difficulties for our relationship. >> reporter: the state department tried to play down reports that snowden discussions were too informal and moscow wants an official request from washington. snowden left hong kong a week ago. they chastised the chinese. >> they knew he...
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back from china, from russia and pretty soon we won't be able to get him back from ecuador. that's a serious problem. >> would you abolish the u.n? >> no. gene kirk patrick was once asked if the u.s. should withdrawal from the u.n and she said not worth the trouble. >> it is like swlu an ugly, grotesque tree in your yard. if you try to remove it though it will leave a weird hole for years and so you leave the stupid tree there. sorry, tree. >> this is not necessarily my environmental policy. >> what is your environmental policy. >> i know that the president's determination to put climate change -- his climate change policies in affect with that legislation through the apa is a power grab that is very dangerous. >> one more question, who would be your running mate and does his or her name rhyme with smeg-schmutfeld? >> i saw lis sit ideas from the american -- solicit ideas from the american people. we got one right here. >> vp? >> well, we already had a first black president. maybe the first sequential hemaphrodite. >> i would build a lot of roads. >> you would build a lot of bridge
back from china, from russia and pretty soon we won't be able to get him back from ecuador. that's a serious problem. >> would you abolish the u.n? >> no. gene kirk patrick was once asked if the u.s. should withdrawal from the u.n and she said not worth the trouble. >> it is like swlu an ugly, grotesque tree in your yard. if you try to remove it though it will leave a weird hole for years and so you leave the stupid tree there. sorry, tree. >> this is not necessarily my...
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versus the big guy. however, the little guy is scum. ecuador is a socialist pocket of idiocy. >> absolutely. you're 100% right. >> if he wants to take a stand against the government spying on americans and jumping into our privacy, doing god knows what with this information, then come back, face the music, and deal with it that way. >> his father said from the get go, said come on back, face the accusers, do it the right way. greg, no one is saying america is not great, i am saying we don't want to become like a communist china or iran, where your individual rights, first amendment, second, fourth amendment, are protected. >> we have gone over this, eric. >> let me put it this way. i agree, by the way, i don't think he is helping his credibility going to russia and god knows going to china, nobody ought to go to china, nobody should go there. wait a second. i think he ought to come back, he ought to face the music, but i think you're going to find a ground swell of people that support him, nsa, tell us what you're really doing, then we'll worry about snowden. >> he will be th
versus the big guy. however, the little guy is scum. ecuador is a socialist pocket of idiocy. >> absolutely. you're 100% right. >> if he wants to take a stand against the government spying on americans and jumping into our privacy, doing god knows what with this information, then come back, face the music, and deal with it that way. >> his father said from the get go, said come on back, face the accusers, do it the right way. greg, no one is saying america is not great, i am...
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cuba and try to seek sigh aluminum in venezuela or potentially ecuador. there is another report from this morning passenger aboard that flight. snowden was whisked away directly from the plane by authorities. we don't know all the exact details. he has not been seen publicly but apparently on his way, no matter where he goes the u.s. has responded it will try to extradite him from any country in which he ends up and seek asylum in that country. we'll keep you posted as he is apparently making this around the globe trip. >> jamie: secretary of state john kerr have i calling for peace talks with the taliban. he wants them back on track after delays from the diplomatic dispute with the afghan government, hamid karzai. taliban is offering to free the only known american prisoner of war in exchange for five operatives that are currently being held at guantanamo bay. critics of are condemning the proposed talks asking why america is sitting down with a group responsible for so much glad shed. just this month -- so much bloodshed. >> the taliban beheaded two young boys on charges they were
cuba and try to seek sigh aluminum in venezuela or potentially ecuador. there is another report from this morning passenger aboard that flight. snowden was whisked away directly from the plane by authorities. we don't know all the exact details. he has not been seen publicly but apparently on his way, no matter where he goes the u.s. has responded it will try to extradite him from any country in which he ends up and seek asylum in that country. we'll keep you posted as he is apparently making...
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the president of ecuador to reject the nsa leaker's asylum bid. but will ecuador listen or snub the united states. >>> and living the high life. prisoners at gitmo with a brand-new gym after rejecting american made equipment, cons t
the president of ecuador to reject the nsa leaker's asylum bid. but will ecuador listen or snub the united states. >>> and living the high life. prisoners at gitmo with a brand-new gym after rejecting american made equipment, cons t
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trying to travel to latin america. now vice president joe biden reaching out to ecuador's president asking him to reject snowden's requests for asylum there. >> edward snowden is in the hands of russia, that is according to the president of ecuador who also said he believes snowden can't leave the moscow airport without his u.s. airport which has been revoked. one key lawmaker says vladimir putin should be dealt firmly. >> this is direct slap in the face to the united states of america. we should be now finally realizing what vladimir putin is. she an old colonel kgb open active and he dreams the restoration of the russian empire. >> as for the leaker itself, nancy pelosi snowden broke the law and fine with her if she stuck at moscow airport. >> anybody that thought he was hero, to share information with russia and china, think that disabuse anybody of the notion that she hero. >> he has one high profile supporter, julian assange. >> he has acted in a manner to draw attention to a very serious problem. it's in the united states without the will of congress, without the will of the a
trying to travel to latin america. now vice president joe biden reaching out to ecuador's president asking him to reject snowden's requests for asylum there. >> edward snowden is in the hands of russia, that is according to the president of ecuador who also said he believes snowden can't leave the moscow airport without his u.s. airport which has been revoked. one key lawmaker says vladimir putin should be dealt firmly. >> this is direct slap in the face to the united states of...
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on the man wanted for leaking our government's secret surveillance programs. ecuador's foreign minister saying his government could take months to decide whether to grant asylum to edward snowden. the former nsa contractor is charged with violating american espionage laws. he left hong kong over the weekend, flew to russia, he booked a seat on a havana-bound flight, never got on. president vladimir putin confirmed he's in a moscow airport, rejecting u.s. pleas to hand him over. >> any accusation directed towards russia is shear nonsense. he is a transit passenger and as such still remains in the transit lounge. as far as any sort of extradition is concerned to wherever it may be, we are only able to hand over citizens of foreign states with those countries with whom we have a core responding international agreement on handing over criminals. we have no such agreement with the united states. jon: moo tin says he's still in the transit zone of the airport, that means he has not passed through russian immigration and technically that means he's not in russia. coming up at the bott
on the man wanted for leaking our government's secret surveillance programs. ecuador's foreign minister saying his government could take months to decide whether to grant asylum to edward snowden. the former nsa contractor is charged with violating american espionage laws. he left hong kong over the weekend, flew to russia, he booked a seat on a havana-bound flight, never got on. president vladimir putin confirmed he's in a moscow airport, rejecting u.s. pleas to hand him over. >> any...
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the news of the day, where edward snowden is. he applied for asylum in ecuador. ecuador is basically laughing in the u.s.'s face over this saying we don't care whatever pressure you want to exert on us. we have our own process and we're not going to listen to you big bullies. >> the raw contempt from the president of ecuador for the united states is striking. wasn't president obama supposed to make the rest of the world like us and respect us. >>steve: the president of the ecuador, we heard people go ecuador gets a lot of u.s. aid. the president of ecuador said we don't need your stinkin' money. you can't tell us what to do. you're not the boss of me, and things to that effect. he later backed off. it goes to show how the mighty have fallen. yesterday the president was in africa and he did do that joint press availability where he was asked about the snowden case and snowden is still holed up at the airport in moscow. the president seemed to many to be like wait a minute, they changed their narrative again. now they're backing off. rather than talking about how he's an n.s.a. guy or
the news of the day, where edward snowden is. he applied for asylum in ecuador. ecuador is basically laughing in the u.s.'s face over this saying we don't care whatever pressure you want to exert on us. we have our own process and we're not going to listen to you big bullies. >> the raw contempt from the president of ecuador for the united states is striking. wasn't president obama supposed to make the rest of the world like us and respect us. >>steve: the president of the ecuador,...
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and the president of ecuador, a tiny and mostly impoverished south american nation. let's play for you what president obama had to say. >> i'm not going to have one case of a suspect who we're trying to extradite suddenly being elevated to the point where i've got to start doing wheeling and dealing and trading on a whole host of other issues. simply to get a guy extradited so that he can face the justice system here in the united states. jon: well, the president suggests that, you know, i don't know, rewarding ecuador or penalizing ecuador would not be appropriate. rewarding them if they were to give him up, for instance. >> it's interesting because the president there is saying, look, i'm not going to get personally involved in this, but then he just spent all of this time commenting on the case and saying i'm not going to scramble for a 29-year-old hacker which was a very flippant comment. i mean, the whole context is pretty outrageous. but, look, there's an argument to be made that it shouldn't rise to the presidential level. however, when you have the president of russia and t
and the president of ecuador, a tiny and mostly impoverished south american nation. let's play for you what president obama had to say. >> i'm not going to have one case of a suspect who we're trying to extradite suddenly being elevated to the point where i've got to start doing wheeling and dealing and trading on a whole host of other issues. simply to get a guy extradited so that he can face the justice system here in the united states. jon: well, the president suggests that, you know,...
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hugo chavez in a country called ecuador especially when you have a treaty up in july and he'll lose half of his money. >> congratulations. thank you. coming up next right here on hannity tonight -- >> i beg you, my children, my team, my fans, my partners, i beg for your forgiveness. >> tv show paula deen is fired after admitting she used a racial sure. many of her fans are outraged. you get to pick the video of the day at hannity live or on twitter at sean hannity. as a matter of fact it's time to take a sneak at option number three. do you think this is the video of the day? i'm phyllis and i have diabetic nerve pain. when i first felt the diabetic nerve pain, of course i had no idea what it was. i felt like my feet were going to sleep. it progressed from there to burning like i was walking on hot coals... to like 1,000 bees that were just stinging my feet. i have a great relationship with my doctor... he found lyrica for me. [ female announcer ] it's known that diabetes damages nerves. lyrica is fda approved to treat diabetic nerve pain. lyrica is not for everyone. it may cause se
hugo chavez in a country called ecuador especially when you have a treaty up in july and he'll lose half of his money. >> congratulations. thank you. coming up next right here on hannity tonight -- >> i beg you, my children, my team, my fans, my partners, i beg for your forgiveness. >> tv show paula deen is fired after admitting she used a racial sure. many of her fans are outraged. you get to pick the video of the day at hannity live or on twitter at sean hannity. as a...
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steal the former spotlight of hugo chavez in a country called ecuador especially when you have a treaty up in july and he'll lose half of his money. >> congratulations. thank you. coming up next right here on hannity tonight -- >> i beg you, my children, my team, my fans, my partners, i beg for your forgiveness. >> tv show paula deen is fired after admitting she used a racial sure. many of her fans are outraged. you get to pick the video of the day at hannity live or on twitter at sean hannity. as a matter of fact it's time to take a sneak at option number three. do you think this is the video of the day? ♪ everybody dance now ♪ everybody dance now ♪ [ male announcer ] if you can't stand the heat, get off the test track. get the mercedes-benz you've been burning for at the summer event, going on now at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. hurry, before this opportunity cools off. i worked a patrol unit for 17 years in the city of baltimore. when i first started experiencing the pain, it's, it's hard to describe because you have a numbness... but yet you have the pain like thousan
steal the former spotlight of hugo chavez in a country called ecuador especially when you have a treaty up in july and he'll lose half of his money. >> congratulations. thank you. coming up next right here on hannity tonight -- >> i beg you, my children, my team, my fans, my partners, i beg for your forgiveness. >> tv show paula deen is fired after admitting she used a racial sure. many of her fans are outraged. you get to pick the video of the day at hannity live or on...
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the countries that are allowing him to go through scot-free, whether it's russia, potentially ecuador or china. and another to the future edward edward snowdens who are potentially in the united states. you want to convey the sense that this is a very serious matter, that we can't have people doing this. we will find you and bring you to justice no matter where you are. and to the countries that we expect actions or there will be consequences. with the president's message we've got none of that. we got this might be a made for tv movie, and ha, ha, this may be a serious event but not that serious and i'm not going to do very much to get him. i don't think that is the message you want to send if you want to get this guy back in the united states. >> if you're vladimir putin sitting in russia and listening to the comments from the president while he's on this overseas trip, what is your take on it? >> my take on it would be that this is not a very serious issue to the president of united states. i'm not that worried if i just, you know, not do very much to bring him back there. i'm just
the countries that are allowing him to go through scot-free, whether it's russia, potentially ecuador or china. and another to the future edward edward snowdens who are potentially in the united states. you want to convey the sense that this is a very serious matter, that we can't have people doing this. we will find you and bring you to justice no matter where you are. and to the countries that we expect actions or there will be consequences. with the president's message we've got none of...
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cuba and ecuador. they think it's open season on the united states, they have the president's number and they are going to exploit it. jenna: what to make of the silence from our friends is a topic we should talk more about. thank you very much f time today. i urge viewers to check out your article on foxnews.com. jon: a brand-new bombshell in the reus artargeting scandal. it turns out the dragnet was broader and lasted longer than previously claimed. a preliminary report by the i.r.s. find no evidence of intentional wrongdoing. meanwhile, the i.r.s. official who took the fifth refusing to testify before congress, he remains on paid administrative leave. doug mcelway is live in washington. this report, doug, how does it change plans for congressional investigations if at all? >> reporter: jon, probably not at all. chairman max baucus and/or inch hatch said the i.r.s. principle deputy commissioner worth of report that came out yesterday says he's fixing problems that have undermined the i.r.s.'s credibility with the people. 0 his report found no malicious intent for the targeting. her
cuba and ecuador. they think it's open season on the united states, they have the president's number and they are going to exploit it. jenna: what to make of the silence from our friends is a topic we should talk more about. thank you very much f time today. i urge viewers to check out your article on foxnews.com. jon: a brand-new bombshell in the reus artargeting scandal. it turns out the dragnet was broader and lasted longer than previously claimed. a preliminary report by the i.r.s. find no...
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ecuador. what are the odds, out of 350 million americans, the only one the government wasn't watching is him. why is that? out of all -- well, president obama got some good news today. the white house can write off the first half of the second term as a total loss. that's good news. >> why would you get rid of the number one rated guy? only nbc can do that. maybe it's because he's not a liberal. that's all the time we have left this evening. thanks for being with us. the news continues, greta van susteren is standing by to go on the record, we'll see you back here tomorrow night. >>> tonight we have it all. the irs shopping list, includes everything from wine to romance novels. even a cabinet of unused nerf balls and online porn. we don't have it for you, but it's on their computers. and yes, you paid for it all. >> pile on day at the irs. another round of embarrassing information. >> workers used agency credit cards to buy 28 expensive bottles of wine. >> a romance novel. your tax dollars at work. >> two cards were used
ecuador. what are the odds, out of 350 million americans, the only one the government wasn't watching is him. why is that? out of all -- well, president obama got some good news today. the white house can write off the first half of the second term as a total loss. that's good news. >> why would you get rid of the number one rated guy? only nbc can do that. maybe it's because he's not a liberal. that's all the time we have left this evening. thanks for being with us. the news continues,...
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: does he plan to make ecuador his final destination? some are suggesting that that south american country be put on notice. >> we ought to be very clear with ecuador, if they take snowden, they are to pay a price. we give them $10 million in foreign aid -- that's tntd so little to a small country. >> reporter: as for the leaker, house leader nancy pelosi says that snowden broke the law and it's fine with her if he's stuck in a moscow airport. >> i think that anybody thought he was a hero to begin with, now that he's threatening in any event to share information with russia and china -- if in fact he has any information, i think that should disabuse anybody of the notion that he is a hero. >> reporter: he does have one high-profile supporter, the man behind wikileaks. >> he has acted in a matter to draw attention to a very serious problem in the united states, where... without the will of congress and without the will of the american population, we now have a state within a state, we have the transnational surveillance apparatus. >> reporter: and the german magazine reports that sn
: does he plan to make ecuador his final destination? some are suggesting that that south american country be put on notice. >> we ought to be very clear with ecuador, if they take snowden, they are to pay a price. we give them $10 million in foreign aid -- that's tntd so little to a small country. >> reporter: as for the leaker, house leader nancy pelosi says that snowden broke the law and it's fine with her if he's stuck in a moscow airport. >> i think that anybody thought...
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made at the highest levels but he has the authority to do it. if he ends up in ecuador tomorrow or if he's there now, there is very little the government can do but wait until the government in ecuador changes, as happens periodically, in countries the attitude changes. >>dana: russia said this morning snowden hasn't crossed into russia. that could be he's in the international space in the airport. >> he could be in the international space in the airport. people are saying he's spilling all the beans to the russians. we don't know that. we know what he told us about what happened here has evoked great controversy from he's a traitor to he's a hero. from we don't like what he said, but we ought to have a debate on it. to even the great ray kelly, new york city police commissioner, saying spying in the country, people should know about it. where it goes from there, we don't know. espionage is a difficult charge for the government to prove because in order to prove there's been harm by what he said, it has to demonstrate to a jury what it was doing. it may reveal more secrets to a jury i
made at the highest levels but he has the authority to do it. if he ends up in ecuador tomorrow or if he's there now, there is very little the government can do but wait until the government in ecuador changes, as happens periodically, in countries the attitude changes. >>dana: russia said this morning snowden hasn't crossed into russia. that could be he's in the international space in the airport. >> he could be in the international space in the airport. people are saying he's...
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ecuador for mr. snowden. but yesterday they twittered toward the united states, canceling passport and bullying intermediary countries may keep snowden permanently in russia, which is interesting because apparently they figured it all out. but then suddenly when they canceled the passport and our government is reaching out to cuba and venezuela, which because there are no direct flights to ecuador from moscow, he might have to stop in one of those countries and they're putting the pressure on them not to allow them. there is also -- it was interesting, tucker, i don't know if you saw this, but a couple of days ago in a white house briefing, bill plant of cbs asked jay carney, there is a report in a russian news service that perhaps mr. snowden has not taken off for fear that the united states might actually force a jet down, you know, if he crosses air space or anything like that. and mr. carney would not speculate on what would happen going forward. >> tucker: the sad part about all of this or many sad parts of the story, but lost in this conversation is the fact that the u.s. gov
ecuador for mr. snowden. but yesterday they twittered toward the united states, canceling passport and bullying intermediary countries may keep snowden permanently in russia, which is interesting because apparently they figured it all out. but then suddenly when they canceled the passport and our government is reaching out to cuba and venezuela, which because there are no direct flights to ecuador from moscow, he might have to stop in one of those countries and they're putting the pressure on...
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hong kong last weekend to seek asylum in ecuador but officials there say it could take months to process his request. snowden is reportedly living in a transit zone hotel room similar to the one pictured here. according to russian president vladimir putin, he is out of reach of russian law. >>steve: chilling new information about the situation in benghazi from the diary entries of ambassador chris stevens. he reportedly warned of never-ending security threats in his final entry in his diary on september 11, the same day that he and three other americans were murdered. stevens allegedly wrote about him being the target of an eus slammist hit list -- islamist hit list but he was hopeful for the people of libya. the diary published by a special operations website despite his family's request not to do it. but they did it. >>clayton: sorry, kids, your 4th of july celebration losing its spark thanks to new york city mayor michael bloomberg. he wants to ban the sale of sparklers because terrorists can use them. bloomberg pushing a veto around the 4th of july and christmas saying they c
hong kong last weekend to seek asylum in ecuador but officials there say it could take months to process his request. snowden is reportedly living in a transit zone hotel room similar to the one pictured here. according to russian president vladimir putin, he is out of reach of russian law. >>steve: chilling new information about the situation in benghazi from the diary entries of ambassador chris stevens. he reportedly warned of never-ending security threats in his final entry in his...