moorjani was living her final moments with stage four lymphoma. and ben breedlove's heart stopped beating for long minutes at a time. on the brink of death, mary, anita, and ben say they went to heaven and then came back. their stories raise questions about faith and fear. is heaven real? what does it feel like to die? tonight, cnn's randi kaye talked with three people who say they have left this world for another. we leave it to them to tell their stories, their words, their answers to questions we all would like to ask. >> my name is mary neal. on january 14th, 1999, i died while kayaking on a south american river. i live in jackson hole, wyoming. i am married. i had four children. they were all competitive cross country skiers. i am an orthopedic spine surgeon. and i was very busy. i mean, i finished my residency and was married with a full-time job and one child and then had another one and another one and they kept coming. and i think i was very, very typical. i had very little time for my spiritual life. >> what was your relationship with god and spirituality? >> i did take

e.r. to a regular room. ben was looking straight up and he said, mom, do you see that light? >>> my name is deann breedlove. my son's benjamin daniel breedlove, and ben cheated death four times. >> hey, guys. i'm here on lake austin. my name is ben. and i'm 17. i'm really lucky because i've lived on the lake almost all my life, and i love wake boarding. i have an awesome family. >> ready? >> i live with my husband, shawn, and two of our three children. ali and jake. >> where does ben fall in the lineup? >> he is in the middle. >> we have reached 17,000 subscribers. that's insane. >> what is it about making videos that your brother loved so much? >> his strong connection to people. that's the reason why he gravitated towards giving advice to teens is he genuinely wanted to help them out. he became a little bit of a local celebrity, especially with the girls. >> it doesn't matter how a person looks. if they have braces or acne or anything like that. what matters is their personality. i have a really big challenge in my life. i have heart condition. it is called hypertrophic cardiomyop

. anita moorjani living her final moments with limb phona p.m. and ben's heart stopped beating for minutes at a time. mary, anita and ben talk about faith and what it is like to die. randi kaye say they have left this world for another. we leave it to them to they'll store stories, in their words, and answers to questions we would all like to ask. >> my name is mary neal. on january 14, 1999 i died while kayaking on a south american river. >> i live in jackson hole, wyoming. i am married. i had four children. they were all competitive cross country skiers. i am an orthopedic spine surgeon. and i was very busy. i mean, i finished my residency and was married with a full-time job and one child and then had another one and another one and they kept coming. and i think i was very, very typical. i had very little time for my spiritual life. >> what was your relationship with god and spirituality. >> i did take my own children to sunday school. i tried to incorporate spirituality into my daily life, but then i would run out of time. >> tell me about your husband, bill. >> my husband is a

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happened? and she says, it's ben. he died. i just -- i didn't have any of the information. >> i finally said, how did this happen? and she said he went to sleep the night before and he just never woke up. >> he's always smiling, every picture he's smiling. >> for days, ben gupta's family was desperate for answers. what killed him? he was only 28 years old. he had recently been given a clean bill of health. how could he just not wake up? >> and then the thought went through my mind that maybe it was some sort of a brain aneurism or something must have happened. >> but his father was in for a shock after a conversation with the doctor who performed ben's autopsy. >> and he called me and said, yes, you know, they found oxycodone in his system. >> he tells you he believes that your son died of an overdose of narcotics. >> yeah. right. >> what do you think at that point? >> i was just shocked at that time. >> did you think it was possible, what you knew of your son? >> no. no. >> he worked for the state department, and he, you know, was going to graduate in a year with a dual law and mba deg

too complicated for the irs to enforce. >> ben, we know about the incompetencyfactor. people wonder if we are giving this particular agency f too much powe in general. >> taxes are an incredib complited subject. there is not goi to be any perfection at the irs. butthis level of mistaken behavior is astonishing. if i may sayso, it is not as astonishing to me who got a bill for $60 million in tax a cple of monthsgo based on something like $160 million of income i never earned oraw anything like that in my life except what you guys pay me, of course. i don't expect much of them. but this disappoints even me. >>hat did they say when you called them? you're lucky they didn't lock you up firstnd then askfor the money. how do you protest $60 million? >> my accountant wroteo them. they just disposed of it, sent me a new bill for $200 million. that was the end of it. they neverapologed. never apologized for putting me into a cardiovascular problem. >> ben said, i only made $120 million. not fair all >> not even remotely. >> they say, why didn'tou sa so? you don't have to pay this. >> you're

. popular with many who can't afford the astronomical rents in manhattan. one of them is entrepreneur ben. he's agreed to show us his company. it's the brainchild and his former university buddies from munich. their product turns normal cell phones into digital house keys. the keys can also be sent by phone. he tells me that their product lets people use cell phones to open doors and they can send their keys electronically to everyone who comes to visit. ben hopes his idea will help him take over the american market. that's why he and his co-founders made the move to new york earlier in the year. for now, they're working out of this apartment for a few weeks rent free. the tenant is a friend of ben who is out of town. at the moment, they're living off the $35,000 in prize money that they've won with their business idea in new york. this is a business coach who helps young entrepreneurs designed to help fledging companies cut through red tape. today, he is coaching the -- showing the coach they are making to his app. >> they had a great business idea for new york city. they have identified

market committee for the year after crisis, ben bernanke leaves behind a less independent that. did you know germany is amazon's second-biggest market? good morning, everyone, this is "bloomberg surveillance." it is fed they, december 18. joining me is scarlet fu and alix steel. there is a lot going on. >> we will start in the uk because unemployment help to 7.4% which is the lowest since april, 2009. it is nearing the threshold where the bank of england governor said officials might consider raising interest rates. japan, they had the biggest november trade deficit on record. u.s., it is also busy, seven :00 a.m., mortgage applications are coming out and then housing starts and then building permits and then the fomc rate decision. there were two big winners in the second biggest lottery jackpot. i could be one of those people but so far, the winning tickets were sold in california and georgia and the two winners will a $63600 $36 million -- million total. there could be more, you never know. i won $40 once. >> we won seven dollars once. >> let's do a data check as i cap my winning

the top business stories from around the world. ben bernanke and other policymakers are wrapping up one ay meetings.st two-d will the fed start backing off its easy money policy? a news conference at 2:30 eastern time. government is selling off assets to help finance their bailout. paulson is not commenting. sold forng tickets -- the second biggest lottery jackpot in american history. they will split a prize of $636 million. tickets were sold in san jose, california and atlanta, georgia. if no winners were drawn last night, the jackpot could have had a billion dollars. we will be back in a couple of minutes talking about going public. with stephanie ruhle. ♪ >> amc makes its trading debut this morning. abouteater chain raised $330 million in its ipo. stephanie is down with the amc president on the floor of the new york stock exchange. take it away. >> big night at the movies, big day at the movies, erik schatzker. i am here with ceo, jerry lopez. >> thank you, stephanie. >> we have seen a bunch of ceos price at the top of their range. you took the lowlands of the range. why? bette

this morning. >> one is in gaithersburg. >> the other impact is on benning road in the district. our john gonzalez is live in northeast with the very latest. john, how are things right now in. >> a lot of work behind us and jackhammering also, and this is going to be the case here on benning road and bladensburg road for the next several hours. i will step out of the way so you can take a look. this is phase one of a very long job throughout the day at a very busy intersection. i spoke to a supervisor. skied him how many gallons of watt we're gushing out of here. he said tens of thousands and described it as a small river. we understand a 12-inch main that runs under benning road has what is called a blow-off mechanism, a value that helps drain the record from this very old pipe. how the super here described it. that valve ruptures and this is definitely cold weather related. again, this is benning and bladensburg. if you're familiar with this area in northwest d.c., you know how busy this area is and how much work is going on here. this is phase one, literally just starting to

whistleblower kirk wiebe as well as edward snowden's legal advisor ben wizner. then we go to egypt where else to president mohamed morsi is facing charges of committing terrorist acts and treason. all of that and more coming up. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. a white house-appointed task force has proposed a series of curbs on key national security agency surveillance operations following leaks by former nsa contractor edward snowden. on thursday, the panel recommended that hold its collection of billions of american phone calls, sending "the additional risks to public trust, personal privacy, and civil liberties." the phone records should be held by telecommunications providers or have a third party. underminings for its encryption and criticized its use of computer programming flaws to mount cyber attacks. at the white house, press secretary jay carney said the panel's findings will be reviewed. next several weeks, we will be reviewing the report recommendations as we consider the path forward, including sorting through which

fed chairman, ben bernanke said the economy is healthier and the job market is making progress. this marks the beginning of the end of the historic money program that lunched in 2008 to stabilize the economy during the deb tating financial crisis. the reaction was surprisingly positive. stocks skyrocketed and the dow and s&p 500 hit new record highs. the blue chip dow soared almost 300 points rebounding and closing well above the 16,000 level. the nasdaq jumped 46 and the s&p surged almost 30 points. over in the bond market, prices on the ten-year treasury fell and yields rose to 2.89%. >>> we have two reports on the fed's big decision, the massive record setting reaction in the stock market. bob has that story but we begin with steve liesman on what the fed did, why and what the chairman said about it in the last press conference as central bank chief. >>> out going federal reserve chairman ben bernanke, a historic move engineering the 10 billion-dollar reduction with the purchase of assets by the federal reserve to take effect next month. it is the last press conference for f

power to stimulate the economy using quantitative easing. ben bernanke announced the feds will scale back the program next year. we'll decode the fed's actions, look ahead to the tenure of incoming fed chairman janet yellen and look at the recovering economy. >>> the federal reserve wrapped up two days of policy meetings and concluded the u.s. economy is strong enough to start tapering the banks investment program known as qualitative easing. >> starting in january we'll purchas scale back purchases. >> reporter: the positive signs are few but strong. unemployment reached 7% in november. the s&p 500 gained 25% just in the past year. the highest in a decade. and congress passed a budget for the first time in four years. >> today's policy actions reflect the committee's assessment that the economy continues to make progress, but it has much farther to travel before conditions can be judged normal. notebly despite fiscal head winds the economy has been expanding and we expect growth in the coming quarters . >> reporter: all this good economic news could mean its time for the federal res

chairman's wild ride as we say bye-bye to ben bernanke. female announcer: female announcer: it's time to make room for the new mattress models during sleep train's huge year end clearance sale. get beautyrest, posturepedic, even tempur-pedic mattress sets, at low clearance prices. save even more on floor samples, demonstrators and closeout inventory. plus, free same-day delivery, set up and removal of your old set. why wait for the new models? sleep train's year end clearance sale is on now. superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed! ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >>> this is a story of survival. a tale of life over death. this is a story about love. there will be tenderness, there will be separation, there will be reunion. there will be new life. >>> the history books written about the great recession and recovery will likely include several chapters on fed chief ben bernanke. he's not single-handedly responsible for the recovery, but as cnn international correspondent maggie lake tells us, bernanke's historic decisions are shaping the way our economy mov

you are "in the loop." ben bernanke and other fed policymakers are wrapping up their two-day meeting today. remember that bernanke's news conference will be 30 minutes later. coming up short in the fiscal sector here in an airline reported earnings that missed estimates. fedex raised its forecast for the entire year. shares of amc began trading today. the movie theater chain controlled by china's third millionman raise $302 and invited members of its customer loyalty plan to take part. an unusual aspect to this ipo. we mentioned, chairman ben bernanke will be holding what is likely his last news conference today. expires january 31. the confirmation vote in the senate may take place as early as next week. no one is taking that's after the surprise where the central bank confused -- prediction.making a you are not sticking your neck out. class i am not. job creation has really picked up and that has a lot of people talking about the possibility of a taper. we talked yesterday about how retail sales were pretty good. maybe that means things were sustainable. let me show you som

star of the secret life of walter hitty, please welcome ben stiller. (cheers and applause) >> stephen: whooo! hey, ben, good to see you. hey. thank you so much. good to see you, so flis nice to meet you face-to-face. >> i know, how are you. >> stephen: i'm great, how are you. >> i'm doing well. >> stephen: you're that guy i like. >> oh, good. >> stephen: i love your movies, man. >> thank you, thank you. >> stephen: i love your movie, i love new those movies. >> yeah, well i tend to be in the movies that i'm in, so. >> stephen: but i like new those movies. >> i ten to be in the movies that you like that i am in. >> stephen: i understand. but here is what i don't get about actors, does that mean i like you? >> i done know. >> stephen: all right. something about marry, tropic thunder, okay. >> those are the two. >> stephen: now, but right up there, man, right up there. but now you've got this secret life of walter hitty. >> that's right, yes. >> stephen: this is a beautiful movie. >> thank you, thank you. >> stephen: a little clip here. >> let's see, i bathed in arctic mountain water. >>

don't think that's fair. >> okay. ben stein. >> well, the whole idea basically is a subsidy transfer from the taxpayer to motorists, unions. it is very expensive to have a stretch of highway or bridge repaired we're having a lot of it done in beautiful southern california. the wage, that these gentlemen get for their work which seems to me mostly of leaning on their shovels -- >> be careful there. >> well, not to talk about your father, charles -- >> yes, you are, yes, you are. he built haeighways. >> these guys are leaning on their shovels and they're getting paid $100 an hour. >> $100 an hour? >> yes, that's the subsidy from the taxpayer who are earning way less than that to a union worker -- >> $100 -- >> can you, for god's sake, let somebody else talk? >> get to your point. >> go ahead. >> $100 an hour -- >> i don't know if that's right or wrong. all i was trying to get out of the congressman and all i was trying to factor in with the millions we're spending every year and the point about stimulus money, if you average that out, it's close to $2 million a year and i didn't even a

incensed when ben bradley wrote his memoir and she never spoke to him again. >> when red faye wrote a book on the president which was a really lovely book he sent three thousand dollars to the kennedy library in broi royalties and se ripped the checkup and sent it back. and she could not stand to have anything even real written about the president. when manchester to whom she had given absoulte access to everybody wrote his book, she sued him. hum. >> so it would be very, very hard in a sense. >> right. >> to get the kind of approval that you would like for a book. now on capturing camelot, i was absolutely delighted to hear from the kennedy library and i flew to boston and i signed books that they have on sale up there. and another thing, i have no compun have. compunction because awful of the profits go to the dc public libraries the obama's compare to the kennedys and celebrities love them and he is a gifted speaker. why do you see them being so different from the kennedys? >> i think it's a different time an different era and it's a different everything. on those things they are very s

the break, dr. ben carson will weigh in on the administration's latest obama care lie. and vote in tonight's insta-poll. the president says obama care is fixed. can we believe him? facebook or tweet mere @judge jeanine. >>> this administration said obama care is fixed. the reality, not even close. neurosurgery at john hopkins university, dr. ben carson. dr. carson, is obama care website fixed? >> i guess it depends on how you define the word fixed. some people like to do redefinitions of everything. according to their definition, yes, it would be fixed. but, you know, we have to ask the question, what really works for the american people. we're in a situation where 85% of people had health care that they were satiied with and we turned the whole system upside down for the sake of the 15% who did not have it. and there were certainly many good ways to take care of those people. >> dr. carson, let me ask you this. did you hear in my open, i was talking about the woman, maria silva? >> yes. >> stage four breast cancer patient who was happy with her health care, had a scheduled round o

at stake. i know you did it. mr. president, the clock is ticking. >>> after the break, dr. ben carson will weigh in on the administration's latest obama care lie. and vote in tonight's insta-poll. the president says obama care is fixed. can we believe him? facebook or tweet mere @judge jeanine. [ female announcer ] tide pods three-in-one detergent. pop in the drum of any machine... ♪ it dissolves in any temperature, even cold. tideod pop in. stand out. in the nation, what's precious to you is precious to us. ♪ love is strange so when coverage really counts, count on nationwide insurance. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ >>> this administration said obama care is fixed. the reality, not even close. neurosurgery at john hopkins university, dr. ben carson. dr. carson, is obama care website fixed? >> i guess depends on how you define the word fixed. some people like to do redefinitions of everything. according to their definition, yes, it would befixed. but, you know, we have to ask the question, what really works for the american people

. that policy has been the signature of outgoing federal chairman ben bernanke. but the fed will begin to ease off the easing under new chair janet yellen. under this new edition, we'll examine the green shoots of a recovering economy. >> reporter: the federal reserve wrapped up two days of policy meetings and concluded the u.s. economy is strong enough to start tapering the banks investment program known as quantitative easing. >> we'll be purchasing $75 billion a month reducing purchasing of treasuries by $5 million each. >> reporter: the positive signs are few but strong. unemployment reached a five-year low of 7% in november. the southboun s&p 500, and congd a budget for the first time all year. >> the economy is continuing to make progress but it has much farther to travel before conditions with be judged normal. notebly, the economy has been expanding at a moderate pace as we expect growth to pick up helped by monetary policies and waning fiscal drag. >> reporter: all this good economic news could mean that it's time for the fertile reserve to ease it's massive monetary program. the

, with us now from dallas, cnn political commentator ben ferguson. >> and in philadelphia, cnn political commentator mark lamont hill. so, gentlemen, a question for both -- can president obama get his credibility back in 2014? let's start with you, mark. >> absolutely. i mean, the great thing about the way political news works and the political culture works in d.c. is that you're only as good or as bad as the last cycle. there was a time in october where people said republicans can never recover from the shutdown, and then benghazi will be on everybody's lips for a year, and everybody forgot about benghazi. the economy is recovering. the kinks in the obamacare, will be ironed out by april, may, and then we'll be talking about what's next. and if obama is short, it will be the economy. >> yeah, short-term memory helps. ben, what do you think? >> it's a little different. you look at people losing their doctors, you look at people with premiums higher than they ever imagined they would be, and this is supposed to be the affordable care act. when you have your premium double, that's nothing

10 billion off of the bond purchases, peter barnes in the room with federal reserve chairman ben bernanke. what was that atmosphere like especially now uttered in real time. peter: as nicole said, it was an exciting day. we have been anticipating this day, some sooner than later, the fed will start to taper in january cutting the bond purchases by $10 million per month. fed chairman ben bernanke saying assuming everything goes forward as the fed forecast and the economy keeps improving, the fed will likely continue this on a monthly basis and a measured pace and wrap up quantitative easing purchases by later next year. however the fed chairman said once again that tapering is not tightened. tighten. here's what he said. >> attempt to maintain and monetary policy, nothing we did today was intended to reduce accommodation. with that want to be buying assets at a high rate and increasing our balance sheet at holding onto those assets. we maintain the 6.5%. peter: so, the fed taketh and give it. it was that policy statement on the federal funds rate that the statement fomc plans to k

chairman ben bernanke's last. adam: will it be jawboning with a bite? chief economist and others on when they see the tape are starting. cheryl: amc entertainment making their trading debut. we will hear from the ceo as they go public on the new york stock exchange. adam: started growing at a breakneck pace. it took 90 days, $1,000,000.10 employees for online startup to spread to 48 states. delivering bulk size items a run for their money. nicole petallides to find out what investors are thinking. nicole: this is a big deal because last time the fed met, popularly doing some tapering, which they are not. now the question is while we have seen some improved economic numbers, although they are not looking at the numbers, looks great, is it enough to stop the tapering? will they taper. the s&p 500 down by four. the fear index has had an interesting day, pulling back in the morning and moving to the unchanged line as we eagerly await on the fed. it will guide the market at least the next hour and a half or so. back to you. adam: cheryl. cheryl: lets get to our man who will bring us late

just begun the work of digging up this ruptured water main right at the intersection of benning road in northeast washington. the westbound lanes of benning are closed. all lanes of bladensburg lane are closed. this is a 12-inch main that ruptured early this morning. they have to finish digging it up and make the repairs. i'm told this is going to be a problem for the duration of the morning rush hour. it is a major commuter thoroughfare here. we are expecting to see traffic tie-ups. right now it's not so bad because we haven't seen the volume of the morning rush hour kick in but that is expected to change as we go into the morning. we are expecting people to be late. plan accord iingly. with more on traffic over to danella. >>> megan, that's great advice. for folks traveling in maryland, greenbelt, this is what's happening eastbound good luck road shut down at heartland street. just your eastbound lanes are shut down because of a single vehicle into a pole. if you're traveling westbound good luck road, you will be able to get around it. checking out on i-270 making the trip from fre

talk about this and a lot more, michael, editor and chief of global grind.com and ben ferguson, host of the ben ferguson show. thank you for joining me. michael, let me start with you. was this the right move? how long should phil robertson stay out of the show? >> it's the right thing. certainly he has a right to say what he wants. he didn't say it was a sin, he compared it to bestiality. he later said homosexuals were evil and murderers. he has the right to say what he wants but we have the right to say what we want, too. if we don't appreciate it and respect it we can get him off the show. itis what we did. >> ben, what is your take? >> first of all, if you read the article, he did not compare homosexuality to bestiality. he listed 11 different sins that he said were in the same all over category of a sinful nature in this world. i think it's funny to me the only people that came out of the 11 sins listed, including greed, men sleeping with multiple different women, having sex before marriage, examples like that, the only group that has come out and even claimed their lifestyle wa

. good luck with this health care effort. >>> up next, the one and only ben stein on president obama's dismal approval ratings. last chance to vote in the poll. should patriarch phil robertson have been suspended? facebook or tweet me. what do you think, congressman? be a victim of fraud. fraud could mean lower credit scores and higher interest rates when you apply for a credit card. it's a problem waiting to happen. check your credit score, check your credit report at experian.com. the deep sweep power brush by oral-b for the first time. wow. it's "wow," you know? wow. wow. that feels "wow." [ male announcer ] oral-b deep sweep, featuring 3 cleaning zones with dynamic power bristles that reach deep between teeth to remove up to 100% more plaque than a regular manual brush. it seems like it gets more to areas of your mouth that you can't reach with a regular toothbrush. [ male announcer ] guaranteed "wow" with deep sweep from oral-b. #1 dentist-recommended toothbrush brand worldwide. >>> just when you thought president obama's numbers couldn't get any lower, in his fifth year o

advisory and we also have been heiress to use the editor in chief of business new europe all right ben if i go to you i think you were on the first program of this year if not the second one in a nutshell in a few words how is the russian economy ending this year or this year i think it's been rushes. in so much is it's been the worst year was in a crisis year for the last decade and a half and so we're puttering out of the year slowly with very disappointing results across the board and everyone is looking forward to next year because can't be worse than this one always can be worse interest in a few and a few words a few sentences how would you describe russia's economy as we're ending the year i would actually agree with ben there compared to where we were the start of the year looking for three three and a half percent growth or think of the optimistic end now we're no ending the year according to the world bank's forecast maybe about one point three percent very disappointing compared to what had been expected and that has come as a result of a big drop in investment and much lower lev

, the one and only ben stein on president obama's dismal approval ratings. last chance to vote in the poll. should patriarch phil robertson have been suspended? facebook or tweet me. what do you think, congressman? n sleep train's interest-free for 3 event ends sunday! n it's your last chance to get 3 years interest-free financing on beautyrest black, stearns & foster, serta icomfort, even tempur-pedic. plus, get free delivery and sleep train's 100-day low price guarantee. but hurry, sleep train's interest-free for 3 event ends sunday! superior service, best selection, lowest price, guaranteed! ♪ sleep train ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >>> just when you thought president obama's numbers couldn't get any lower, in his fifth year of office or in office, a new poll says the approval rating has sunk to a whopping 43%. in fact, out of all the post-world war ii presidents, obama has the second lowest approval just above richard nixon and fifth year ended with a 20% approval rating. with me now is nixon's former speechwriter and economist, our friend, ben stein. good even

of the ben's colleagues. a conference room discussion about what to order for lunch. very heavy stuff. >> consistently david wins the competitions. >> would like date day. >> hold on. >> you know the co-worker that talks and talks. >> do you think. >> hold on a sec. and played that guy. oh, did the data show it. >> this is me in blue, now people can come and say, "ben, you need to tone it down." >> we compared an alert employee with a tired employee. >> time for a snooze. again. the data was loud and clear. you are in your chair. your posture is up rite and you are moving around. it flat lines when you lay down. if my boss had access to the data i might be in trouble. i asked if ben's company would sell the product to someone that wanted to spy on employees, and if not, how do you prevent it? >> they are not allowed to use it in a way that identifies users. we won't operate this that way. >> ben says clients' employees couldses the badges. why? bank of america is a good example. ben's team saw a call center was outperforming the other. they looked at the data the badge collected and m