>> meanwhile, former president bill clinton clarifying that promise that he made about president obama should keep their health plans. bill clinton said it was not designed to distance himself from the health care law in effort to help his wife hillary's 2016 presidential ambitions. >> i said nothing about this, not one word, until the president himself spoke. i don't think you can find anybody in america whose worked harder for his election or supported his bill or went out of the way to explain it to the american people than i did. >> intrigue, still. bill clinton says he does not know whether his wife will run for president and adds he will support joe biden as the 2016 presidential naumle knee if biden were to get the nomination. >>> the university of notre dame has filed another lawsuit. they're opposing a mandate in obama care. the affordable care act does make an exception for religious institutions. so this new lawsuit seeks an expanded exception. they want it for schools and universities as well. >>> we have a developing story out of beijing today, vice president joe biden mee

you worked with bill clinton and hillary clinton for a long time. when he says "i don't know whether she's going to run for the democratic nomination, do you believe that. >> bill clinton is both a pretty good policy wonk and pretty good politician. the truth is both -- >> and a good spokesman. >> and a good spokesman. both the politics and policy argue for just letting that go for a while. setting that aside. this is not a time for political ambition. let's just try to get our problems solved. >> do you buy it? >> i'm a little skeptical. look at it this way. let's say you're not hillary clinton, you're a democrat who wants to be taken seriously in the next presidential race. you need to get started early. because hillary clinton has as much name recognition as you could possibly get. she has much of a head start as you could possibly have. so if you're someone else who wants to run an insurgent campaign, you need that extra time. it makes a lot of time for hillary clinton and for bill clinton, as her close surrogate to say, slow down there, other g

. >> reporter: but when bill clinton was elected the relationship grew personal. mandela made numerous trips to the u.s. including soon after his election as president of south africa. and president clinton traveled to south africa and visited the jail cell mandela called home. >> he is a ferociously loyal friend. >> reporter: mandela stuck by his american counterpart. >> we have often said that our morality does not allow us to desert our friends. [ cheers and applause ] >> i think he found an individual in bill clinton. >> reporter: they remained close after clinton left office. >> there were many opportunities that bill clinton took to visit south africa to meet with mandela, to work together on anti-aids movements and many other things. >> reporter: mandela's relationship with president george w. bush was not as friendly. after the attacks on september 11th -- >> i know you have a strong leader, and the people of the united states of america can face disaster. >> reporter: he supported george bush's actions in afghanistan but was a critic of the actions in ira

bill clinton and his family will be going to south africa. i talk to president clinton today about his immense administration. i want you to listen to what he said about you the day after that tour of robben island back in 1998. >> the president is one of the most decent men i have come across, and he has got a thick skin, strong nerves. he is not the type of person who squeals, and hi knows that i hold him in the highest regards, because even before he was president, he was very generous in assisting us to ensure we were victorious. >> he said in that interview with me, you're not a person who squeals. when you hear that now from him, what goes through your mind? >> that he helped me to be that kind of man, that he inspired me before i knew him, and that after we became friends, every minute we spent together, even when we were having the occasional argument from our positions as president of the united states and president of south africa, where he always held his ground and did what he thought was right, we never stopped being friends. he

it was the bill clinton administration in 1994. >> and as an activist, who went over to help train many of the political workers, president mandela wanted us to be there to help them with their transition, to encourage people who had never before ever voted to get comfortable with the process. it really was a very special moment. >> i remember when i interviewed him in cape town, mr. ambassador, you'll remember there, in march of 1998, bill clinton was there the day before, nelson mandela took him as president of south africa on a tour of robin island where he was in the cell for, what, 16 years. >>> and there were reports during that time on robben island, there were reports of that. he said that's ridiculous. this is a new south africa. he was totally confident in the face and people of south africa. >> el had had -- if you had just done the greatest negotiations ever, to hand over power peacefully, without undue compromise, but with sufficient compromise, i think that he understood that he was giving those generals more than a place in the sand. he was giving them the freedom to be h

we'll talk to bill clinton about his friend nelson mandela. >> we could have had the politics of resentment. he chose the politics of inclusion. captioning sponsored by cbs this is the "cbs evening news" with scott pelley. >> pelley: good evening. he changed the world. you can't say that about many people. but you can say that about nelson mandela. the man who lead south africa's peaceful transition out of apartheid and became the country's first black president. he died today at the age of 95. mandela had been battling a lung infection for many months. right after its official announcement tonight mourners began gathering at mandela's home in johannesburg to sing his praises. we have extensive coverage of nelson mandela's life and legacy. first we'll go to deborah in johannesburg tonight, deborah, how has this unfolded for us this evening? >> well, scott, for 26 weeks south africans have lived with the knowledge that nelson mandela was gravely ill. first the three month hospitalization and then he was sent to his home to see out his final days because there was nothing more doctor kos do f

bill clinton made in 2008. speaking in new hampshire in 2008 when the clinton team was still smarting from the obama victory out in iowa, a frustrated -- i think this is fair to say -- a frustrated bill clinton questioned the authenticity of obama's anti-war stance. some said questioning his campaign. let's listen. >> since you raise the issue, let's go over this again. that is the central argument for his campaign. it doesn't matter that i started running for president less than a year after i got to the senate from the illinois state senate, i am a great speaker, charismatic figure, i'm the only one that had the judgment to oppose this war from the beginning. always, always, always. give me a break. this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale i've ever seen. >> well, the use of the words fairy tale, this whole thing was criticized by some african-american thought leaders. am i a thought leader? i know you are, gene. attempted to triflize the win by comparing his expected success to jesse jackson's earlier and

. >> part of this is how much did bill clinton get in his head. you guys did a great job talk about your relationship to them going up to the convention. but it's my understanding that convention seat that bill clinton got he was almost jealous. he couldn't give. bill clinton got to do what barack obama was criticized by his staffers for doing in that first debate. >> no question. a big part of our book, the narrative through line is the relationship between barack obama and bill clinton. in the beginning the president, president obama doesn't want to spend time with him but in the first of all '11 when everything looks bad, when it looks like he can't win re-election, they flirt with the notion that hilary is on the ticket they reach out to bill clinton and bring him in. giving him that slot at the convention was incredible. right? a guy who he was at war with four years ago gets the marquise slot. >> couldn't finish 18 holes. >> he gets a slot and does -- he does this rambling explanatory thing. >> many people involved in the debate prep said wh

democrats remember 1998 when bill clinton was impeached. bill clinton avoided it easily, and it backfired republicans to did not do well. well, bill clinton was still popular. he had a high approval rating. obama has neither of those. he -- democrats better be careful when aeries in his impeachment issue. lori: how will obamacare which actually goes into effect this week affects 2014? >> i don't think that they could be 01 minutes johnny party..3 they have to run growth and have positive ideas on many issues and if they're out there trying to repeal obamacare they have to talk about free-market patients centric. what is happening is many americans like the idea of health reform is starting to realize there is a literal and figurative cost to that. it is not just if it happens to you but people who you love or in your circle of friends, colleagues, family members, you're a surrogate voters and think for them as well. lori: so what to bounce this off a brand. obamacare set ups are low it is a million things that the gop repeal the law. that i

i tell how the bill clinton and monica lewinsky scandal, clinton, hillary and the soon to be governor went on vacation and they were trying to find a channel that didn't have the scandal and she couldn't find one and she finally settled on espn because there was no other channel that didn't have a scandal. >> where do you see technology going in terms of how the white house uses it? >> it is a great question. i worked in the white house [inaudible] now you have a dozen and was unimaginable not that long ago. any word that goes out of the white house goes through the white house staffing process to make sure every office signs off on whatever it says to be the that is in possible -- >> is there a follow-up to this? >> we will have to see how the culture those. all the presidents from washington through obama we don't have to follow what we will have to have an additional president. >> so which president was your favorite in terms of the technology? >> bill clinton gets high marks in my book for his understanding of technology and his use of music. remember fleetwood mac stopped talking

>> estoy de acuerdo con bill clinton en eso, estoy de acuerdo con su declaraciÓn de que el paÍs tiene problemas graves y creo que necesitamos lÍderes que se concentren en resolver los problemas mÁs que en la polÍtica, tenemos el obamacare, millones de personas han perdido el empleo, estÁn tomando trabajos de medio tiempo y han perdido seguro por el obamacare y washington se concentra en la polÍtica, en lugar de responderle a los problemas que enfrentan millones de estadounidenses bajo el obamacare. te voy a felicitar por esa entrevista, jorge, tuve un enorme impacto, en esta entrevista donde bill clinton tratÓ de dar marcha atrÁs sobre un comentario que hizo hace unas semanas sobre el obamacare, Él dijo, "el presidente obama tiene que cumplir sus promesas y sus compromisos". y eso lo vio mucho gente y lo interpretado acertadamente como el hecho de que bill clinton estÁ tratando de distanciar a hillary del presidente obama y del obamacare y despuÉs, el dice, "no, no, seguimos apoyando al presidente y el obamacare". creo que eso es un indicativo poderoso, del hecho de que el o

to was playing bill clinton and primary colors. clinton told him, i had a roommate who is a scientologist. he was a really good guy. at that point, the state department had written letters to foreign government, chastising them for pricing the church of scientology. so they did have an effect. >> i apologize, but we are out of time. i know. this is the worst job. i do apologize. [applause] >> here's a look at books being published this week. >> we are back live at the national book festival on the mall in washington d.c. booktv on c-span2. [cheers and applause] as you can see, we have a great audience still in the history and biography tent. we are joined by jean edward smith, and eisenhower biographer

. >> meanwhile, former president bill clinton says his recent suggestion that president obama keep his word and let people keep their health insurance plans was not aimed, or not trying to distance hills from the president's health care law in an effort to help his wife hillary's potential 2016 presidential bid. >> i said nothing about this. not one word, until the president himself spoke. i don't think you can find anybody in america who's worked harder for his re-election or supported this bill or went out of his way to explain the bill to the american people more than i did. >> so mr. clinton says he does not know whether his wife will run for president. and adds that he would support joe biden as a 2016 presidential nominee if he got the nomination. he'll support any democratic nomination. >>> notre dame is suing over obama care birth control mandates. they're doing this again. the university filed a fresh lawsuit opposing insurance for student and employees saying it goes against the teachings of catholic church. the affordable care act does make exceptions for religious instituti

the cuban leader, that day fidel castro came side by side very briefly with bill clinton, and it was the last year of -- the closing months of clinton, and castro was an early supporter of mandela, and he shook hands with bill clinton, and today there are two speakers, raul castro, and president obama, the president of cuba. apparently, according to members of the national security team, they have no assurances of any seating arrangements or any way of keeping them apart, so we don't know whether or not, according to protocol or however they are going to arrange this, whether castro will be seated anywhere near barack obama, brian. >> we were saying they will go to extraordinary lengths to keep everybody separate. you see the early introductions going on in the stadium, and those of you awaiting the arrival of president obama, he is still at the hotel. they have to hold some of them back so they are staggered as they enter, and his security is larger than most. >> it's very interesting, when i was traveling with president clinton when he came -- >> hang on one moment. we need to tell

bill clinton reached out to the republicans to pass nafta. obama didn't reach out and now he owns it.

i talked to former president bill clinton yesterday. did an interview with him and he said, you know, with this issue about nelson mandela and his friendships and those who supported him, like gadhafi and ka castro, he said we don't look like ourselves view themselves. when we went on the tour, the historic africa tour with bill clinton in the second term and joburg, nelson mandela was asked a question about the friendships and nelson mandela himself said, look, if you don't like my friendship, something to this effect, you can go jump in the pool. >> yeah. >> nelson mandela himself said this. >> yep. >> and you have to remember, you know, that when people are different and they want to change an oppressive regime injustice, they're called different names. called dr. king different names and wanted to slander him. you have to remember, also, karen, some of the reason why in recent times that they have called nelson mandela a communist is because he did not want to go for the united states to go to war with iraq. >> that's right. >> so,

chief among them, former president bill clinton. >> nelson mandela's prays for castro and others outraged some. african-americans led a boycott called the quiet riot. >> at the time many people in the african american community were so disgusted they said they were ashamed of their city. a total of six leaders rebuffed nelson mandela during the freedom tour in the united states in 1990. we would have loved to have spoken to the leaders 20 years later. they didn't speak to us. we spoke to a prominent african american leader and the man who put an end to the nonsense in his city. he told me that that year, the city of miami gave the keys of

clinton dijo la verdad, el no tenía la capacidad para hacerlo. yo no dije, dije, probe. yo n c nunca negue que hubieera usad a marihuana, dije la verdad, me a pareció divertido. >> tienme un acuerdo comercial con china, una dictadura, pero no lo hizo con cucuba ¿por que? >> cuando era pdresidente intene incorporar a china a la o organización mundial del come i comercio, ellos cumplieron con l las normas de afiliación a la r organización mundial del come i comercio y cuando fui pdresidene tenía profundo intereés en mej a mejorar las rerlaclaciones cocu, incremente toda serie de cont contacto con cucuba ¿y que hi r hicieron a cambio? >> asesinaron a pilotos inoce e inocentes, derribaron aviones u que no estaban en su espacio r aeréreo y siguieron violando d e derehcos >> hablemos de venezuela ¿cree que se convierte en una dictad dictadura con el pdresidente n o nicoln nicolás madura? >> realmente esta ejerciendo sus poderes extraordinarios, le han dado los poderes para hacerlo e pero esto no tiene sentido para mi. estoy decepcionado. >>

former presidents jimmy carter and bill clinton will also be attending the memorial but they are traveling separately. the only living president not going to the mandela funeral is george h.w. bush. he's 89 and is no longer able to travel long distances. >>> in south africa people are still gathering outside of nelson mandela's house in johannesburg. this is video shot earlier this morning. tomorrow, a public memorial service will be held in a soccer stadium that seats 95,000 people. then nelson mandela's body will lie in state in a government building in pretoria from wednesday through friday and then on sunday, nelson mandela will be buried in the remote village that he grew up in. >>> 7:16. today, south africa's

bill clinton, bill clinton is great, you know. bill clinton is 24/7 worrying about mrs. clinton, secretary clinton's chances for 2016. she'll be in a tricky position, i mean, she was part of the obama administration. she can't really walk away from it. on the other hand, she's not going to want, i think, to inherit all the baggage that might be there by 2016. >> there is something about whether or not calling it obama care is a problem, susan. today, house minority whip steny hoyer told reporters, quote, i wish i hadn't called it obama care before because that has politicized it and has been used by republicans as a pejorative term. by calling it obama care, it's a pejorative term. that's interesting coming from a house democratic leader. >> yeah, well, the source is surprising but the fact is true. the gulf organization tested that in their poll and found the affordable care act gets higher ratings than obama care. you can describe exactly the same policy but labeling it with obama does inject very partisan politics into it. so it -- but i think the white house decided,

bill clinton so identified with him and what he accomplished. he was a hero for people of clinton's age and my age and hillary clinton as much as white people as well. people of all color. he represented the good that could come out of struggles. >> let's go to the grio. joy, how impactful will nelson mandela be in american life moving forward? >> you know, ed, i think truly is one of the greatest citizens. stretching back to the 60s and 70s and into the 80s, the civil rights movement, the vietnam war and the antiwar movement and mandela movement on campuses and american kid who is had never been to the continent of africa, but identified with the suffering of 85% of that population who had no rights. >> my dad used to go to africa on business. he could go into the country on business and had more rights than 85% of the people he came in contact with. they had literally no rights. the extraordinary brutality where 15% of the population utterly suppressed 85% of the population. to work in the mines and the homes of white citizens. the brutality o

only bill clinton knows. i'm going to stop with that me because i always -- you're a dog with two penises. animal genitalia is my specialty. [laughter] welcome, mark. [applause] >> thank you all. we're both really happy to be your at the miami book fair. i've been you -- here a few times. the c-span2 cameras are here and i knew that john was by going to end with a story but i've spent most of my morning and tuesday what brian lamb's reaction going to be how we are helping to program the channel. i'm going to talk for a little bit because the likely time for q&a, and this was we concern we want everyone to start the question. nothing is off limits. you can ask about the book or journalism or anything you want. you can ask about the details of the obligation of the presence health care law or what we learn and reporting about the details of the clinton'clinton' s marriage, whichever interests you more. alternate ask is you do all your questions in the form of true or false. [laughter] if you could could defined

and bill clinton and tony blair and george w. bush and tony blair which hurt his image in great britain. you remember he was thought of as the lap dog of the -- the poodle they called him in the newspaper for the american president. but he was supportive of clinton and bush. i think that's what it is. the personalities so often is what makes a difference. not the policy advice. presidents want to have almost like a buddy system. it they get somebody they can count on to support them or understand what they're doing. it's very important. >> the tapping their cell phone. >> tapping their cell phones. it's not the happy camper these days because the phone has been tapped. and i think, you know, president obama said i didn't know. how could he not have known. i find hard believe myself. but the tapping i'm sure we do that. and they do it to us. they try to find out what we're doing. i remember when i covered the white house one of the senior officials. when we're talking, don't stand too close to the windows. because the soviet embas

. >>> plus the top ten moments of 2013 on the show and bill clinton's bono. >> i'm irish. when we're irish, we can imitate anybody. >> to warren buffet singing. >> ♪ more, much more than this, i did it my way ♪ >>> to the lovely and tardy jennifer lawrence. >> i got pulled off kimmel. >> we don't care about kimmel. >> we voted for your favorite ten moments of year. i'll reveal them tonight. >>> i want to begin with the big story, the war over "duck dynasty. joining me now is ben ferguson and marc lamont hill and michael brown, the host of the line of fire, what is interesting today, much more than "duck dynasty." mr. robertson made a mistake by the line. not about the bible or believing or not believing the bible it's about singling out a group. this is about targeting gays in america and saying you are not worthy eyes of the lord. >> i don't think so and if you look at gq he named about 11 other sins you're leaving out including greed, lying, stealing in the same list. i think this is an issue of "gq" magazine choosing to highlight this to start a massive war over a g

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in ninety six with bill clinton his approval rating has dropped to forty two but he was able to read another thing to consider is that the republican party itself has only an approval rating of twenty two percent and when you look at congress on its own most of the american people have poll rabbits see all the members of congress replace and congressional approval is at ten percent ten percent compared to the forty two percent ok i don't think you had bad those are all here numbers those are going to twenty. fair numbers however if i go to the opportunity i say that it's not a no but it was a good thing that what you're saying is true about all those numbers i agree with you but don how does that help barack obama finish his term in office as a success when you go to done had done what let me let me let me go back to john first go ahead i think that the numbers are relevant and i think the invoking of bill clinton is very useful and light there particularly for people that are outside of the united states that are watching this there's two aspects to american politics there's what th

clinton probably wasn't really a longer election it was that someone decided. to our entire parody what they fired to destroy him was a baby it is they use the power of the senate to be able to manipulate we didn't have a mess in b.c. at the time had we had it they would have used it we didn't have all of the other liberal organs that we had them but they used them but then when president bush the second came into office we saw this and it was way more venomous then i don't. know it's you're absolutely wrong i see exact opposite the democrats were opposed to medicare part. at absolute zero and. that was not flawless see that was true. to the library law i don't know about bush lied about whether there were weapons of mass casualty that's bush that was his secretary of state only other it was actually mr obama who said if you like your policy you can keep it but it's mr obama who when was it going back to your ambition and then what is there who promised to transfer form this nation and he has done some of the most destructive things to this country imaginable b

former president bill clinton has his plans this new year's day. how he will >> you are watching abc 7 news at 11:00. >> officials with the african american civil war memorial mark talking about a shooting that damaged part of the memorial at the u street metro station. men were shooting at the -- at each other in that area when some of the bullets hit the plaque. the bullets that leaves a minor damage and it is too early what those will cost but the repairs will be replete it as soon as possible -- completed as soon as possible. some big names will be on hand for the swearing in of new york's new mayor. bill clinton will administer the oath of office on new year's day. hillary clinton will also attend the ceremony. the blobs you work in his administration -- de blasio work in his administration. john kerry will head to the middle east next week. the state department says he will lead on new year's day for israel and the palestinian territories. we will take part in ongoing peace talks. it is a time of uncertainty for more than one million american

. >> reporter: former president bill clinton tells cnn gross' imprisonment is halting improvement in relations with cuba. >> you can't expect us to do much more now unless there's some resolution of some of these human rights issues. >> now, the state department says that u.s. officials visit alan gross monthly. they say the last visit was november 27th. next one that they're asking for is december 26th. and they insist that he remains a top priority and they're working it diplomatically. wolf? >> jill dougherty with that back ground. thanks, jill, very much. joining us is judy gross, the wife of alan gross. judy, thanks very much for coming. >> thanks for having any. >> four years. how emotional is this for you? four years, your husband being held in cuba. >> it's emotional. it's very -- causes me a lot of anger i would have to say right now. i'm angry at the u.s. government. i'm angry at the cuban government. totally frustrated for this lack of action that alan is still in the same situation he was for four years. >> i understand your anger at the cubans. why are you angry at the u

this time accompanied by president bill clinton, who later presented him with a congressional gold medal. mandela stepped down as president in 1999, but he lived long enough to see america swear in its own first black president, and he was paid a visit many south africa by first lady michelle obama who brought along her daughters. nelson mandela's south africa embraced a multi-racial future and re-entered the family of nations. he leaves a legacy of freedom and proof that one life can make a difference. >> we are one country. we are one people. >> reporter: brian williams, nbc news, new york. >> we will have more on mandela's death in just a moment, but, first, some other stories developing this friday. you are watching many americans experiencing a massive weren't storm blasting its way across much of the country. take a look at oklahoma. a number of accidents there have been reported due to the recent snow accumulation. temperatures in missouri dipping so low that roads became sheets of ice, leaving drivers just like that, sliding all over the streets. nbc's meteorologist bill karens h

but she cannot get away from him any more than she can from bill clinton. >> complicated. a.b., i'm not going to follow up on the two husband metaphor. that was van jones, cnn, ladies and gentlemen. that's all his. but a.b., there's a provocative piece in politico today with a quote from our friend who says that hillary clinton is the liferaft on obama's sinking ship. alex is talking about the now, saying that democrats who want to split from the president even now can look somewhat to hillary clinton for safe harbor. do you see that happening, democrats in a way distancing themselves from the president and trying to move to her now? >> well, she's not making many public statements. she's really only come out and said some things to back him up on syria. you know what her husband did at a critical moment right after the news broke that the president sort of knew people were not going to be able in the self-insured market to keep the policies that they like, even though they have been told by the president that they could. bill clinton said he should honor that promise whil

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clinton probably it wasn't really a long letter election it was that someone decided. to up when our entire perry what an amazing liar to destroy him were as a baby it is they use the power of the senate to be able to manipulate we didn't have a mess in b.c. at the time had we had it they would have used it we didn't have all of the other liberal liberal organs that we had them but they used them but then when president bush the second came into office we saw this and it was way more venomous then i don't. know it's an. absolute want to see exact opposite the democrats were opposed to medicare. and absolute hell and. that was not solace see that was true i would be alive a lot i don't know about bush lied about whether there were weapons of mass grave that's bush that was the secretary of state only other it was actually mr obama lou said if you like your policy you can keep it but it's mr obama going back to your empty mission and then what is there who promised to transfer form this nation and he has done some of the most destructive things to this country imaginable

bill clinton is a very good example. people zero in on the impeachment efforts, on the other hand they overlook the in athat he turned balanced budget, welfare reform, and significant process on kosovo. sure, hadgan, to be to deal with iran contra, but in his second term he achieved tax reform, immigration reform, and most important of all, the inf treaty doing away with an entire doingof nuclear weapons, -- paving the way for the end of the cold war. was interesting to me is to look at reagan and clinton, just a generation ago who had more mixed records in their second terms. historians are now more generous integrating their overall performance. then you look at their successors, one republican, one democrat do and it seems to be focusinger -- and the screen much narrower and less generous. host: we're speaking with richard norton smith, author of several books. you can read this story on cnn, calling, -- call in, our phone lines are open. several folks waiting to talk to you about this subject. brandon from las vegas,

he cannot tell us to do more. >> bill clinton was still president. you were in the midst of negotiations and you were close with arafat to getting a deal at that time. >> yeah, we were in a way close, but the gaps, you know, it cannot be measured only by the width but only by the depth. it was very wide but very deep. >> what did you think nelson mandela? >> one of the greatest statesman of the 20th century. left imprints on hundreds of millions and changed history as a result of being consistent, determined in a way a benign zealot. he was zealot for his case but a great kind of mind and open minded, could carry the burden of not just is on the to lead but also responsibility to be self-disciplined once he won. >> the secretary of state john kerry has been meeting with the prime minister benjamin netanyahu in israel and he says that any son mandela should be sort of an indicator to the israelis, to the palestinians, in coming to an agreement, maybe he could influence you. are you any closer at all right now base on secretary kerry's involvement in t

. >>> jorge ramos viajÓ a washington, para una entrevista con expresidente bill clinton buenas noches jorge. >>> gracias marÍa elena, esta maÑana pude entrevistar al expresidente bill clinton que apoya una reforma migratoria, como su esposa. y esto es lo que m expresidente clinton me dijo. una reforma migratoria ahora mismo. >>> creo que estamos tratando de aprobar una reforma migratoria. el paÍs la necesita. ojalÁ que todos los miembros del congreso que se oponen a la reforma migratoria, y que se sienten amenazados por ella, hubieran estado conmigo en mire ciento visita a asia, japÓn y china. que estÁn preocupados que se estÁn es que el crecimiento de la poblaciÓn y lo que les harÁ en lo econÓmico. y creo que le darÍa mÁs energÍa a la reforma mi dpra tri gra tri r migratoria en estados unidos t tendremos que hacerla, porque es el Único procedimiento en nuestro paÍs. y mientras lo hagamos mejor. tener los votos republicanos para probar una ley decorosa. >>> ¿no es este aÑo, cierto?. >>> no lo sÉ, el prÓximo aÑo es aÑo de elecciÓn no este aÑo 2013 o tal vez el 20

bush, bill clinton, and jimmy carter as well. president obama will be giving a speech, about 20 minutes long. he'll talk about what nelson mandela meant to him and to south africa and the people of the world. we'll also be hearing from other world leaders from as diverse locations as china, india, and cuba. we'll be hearing from the family members and friends. i'm sure we'll be hearing a lot of strong, emotional words from these individuals. and i can tell you after having spent a couple of days here, it's not just going to be words. we're going to be hearing song and music and chanting and dancing. the camera man and i were inside the stadium for a coup of minutes a few moments ago and it is incredible. it is electric. we were in the middle of something that looked like a tsunami to us. it was not keeping anybody down. they are ready to go. but a slight delay as we're watching now the dignitaries and heads of state and leaders enter the stadium as well as as we look around tens of thousands of south africans coming as well. >> g