phil: you know what makes it tough, too. it is easy to say all of this stuff but this is one rough defense. you can move it sometimes but they have pass rushers, an excellent blitz team and you always have to be on high alert. two linebackers inside. into the playoffs for the first time in franchise history a third straight year. they could move up as high as number two and get the bye if new england loses to buffalo and the bengals win the game. phil: if they do win they will be eagerly watching the tv creen later today. econd and 2. in trouble and he is banged around again. michael johnson and marcus hunt. >> they had both defensive tackles switch positions and the offensive line did not adjust. they opened up the lane and flacco goes down again. phil: and a loss of eight. they are running after him. he throws it in the direction of pitta. it was dunlap this time who really broke up flacco's intentions. phil: watch the linemen do this. they don't have an answer for it. joe flacco just not able to move. it will be interesti

jim: phil simms wednesday night on showtime. phil: thanks, jim. it is bernard. he gets out to the 39. that burst is good for seven. phil: how about this bengals offensive line though. they get a injury in there, kyle cook, the center. they move it around. i noticed that. they have depth. they have players. they have versatilities and still get it done to give their quarterback a chance. now you have andrew whitworth at left tackle instead of left guard. jim: second and 3. bernard again. the ravens went right down the line with him, including elam. the rookie pounding the ground as he makes a tackle behind the line for a loss of four. phil: he had one of the best games have i seen the safety had all year. when he plays near line of scrimmage he can tackle. he can blitz. diagnoses plays quickly. he was definitely worth a first round draft pick. jim: we will see if the ravens can get the bengals off the field in a hurry. phil: give them a taste of their own medicine as they fake the blitz inside. >> false start offense, number 67. jim: that is twice today andy dalt

phil was. now, i'm not being ugly. i'm just trying to be frank. phil robertson is phil robertson. he's a faith-based wonderful man. he's solid as a rock. he's an easy going ol'boy. >> since the controversy sparked, there's been quite a groundswell behind the duck dynasty crew. have you seen any difference in either business or people contacting you for being a faithful loyal advertiser on the show? >> strange you should ask, we've been spending hours today with the phone system -- we're just -- we're inundated, we're overloaded with our phone calls, facebook has exploded. all of them support phil. it's amazing. all of them support phil. >> can you give us a sense of what they're saying when they call you. when you pick up the phone and say hello, what's on your mind? what are they saying? >> stuff like kudos to you, we support you, we want to buy your product, where can i find it at? it's just -- it's all positive comments. i was braced for, okay, we may get the negative and the positive natura

phil: how about that. they talk about him here, jay gruden, the offensive coordinator say this guy can do everything as a wide receiver. but we have so much talent we have a hard time getting him on the active roster. screens to the tight end and to the running back. you will get a headache watching everything they do on the offensive side. they are very complicated. im: a third and 4. marvin jones has the catch. and a blitz pick up helped to make that play. phil: it did. watch bernard. sees it at the last second. good job by andy dalton. both of these teams, i can say this about the cincinnati and the ravens offense. they were absolutely awful in the first match-up. they did not do it well. the quarterback has to get in there and it caused turnovers. jim: now it will be a delay of game. they almost got caught one time. this time they do. fantasy football fans, keep the excitement going in the postseason with playoff challenge. even bigger cash prizes all on cbs sports. jim: andy dalton said my gosh. it ma

a and e has shut up phil for quoting the bible. >> duck dynasty star phil robertson has been suspended indefinitely now by a and e. >> robertson was suspended for saying, this and i'm quoting: everything is blurred on what's right and what's wrong. start with homosexuality behavior and more out from here. >> down in the south you explain the birds and bees to the grandson via the craw fish. >> idolater

i think that phil will probably hurt phil people will dissociate themselves with the remarks. to me, it feels like jimmy the greek part two. >> i'm not sure. there is groundwell of support for phil robertson. the facook page had more than the enroees on obamacare put together. people say vote with your feet. do you think they will vote withour feet? what does it man? does that mean the "duck dynasty," stuff they sell at wal-mart will go down or it will up an they will vote with their feet by turning the channel to something else oer than a&e? >> at t risk of supporting my friend, he is rht. he has a ght to make the remarks. he can say anything he want to. martin bashear on nbc, they got rid of him and the actor. >> alec baldwin. >> yes, thank you. if theyon't like what you say, they every right to say hey, goodbye. owe you have every right to say this. this is a personal thing if you have a personal interest in your morals, your politics, those are personal to y. >> i have a hunch that a&e will walk it back quickly. >> i n't think so. here is why. if you talk about capitalism

you got to -- if you're going to have him there, let phil be phil if that's what you want to do. >> maybe they knew exactly. maybe they knew exactly what they're doing right now. >> this the most press "gq" has gotten since they did a foldout on how to could a bow tie. >> very useful. >> are you still smoking? >> come after me, christine, i'm here. >> coming up, parents are not staying silent about this one. a school cuts "jesus christ" out of "christmas carol," "silent night," and we have the tape to prove it. later, a big announcement coming up. ♪ you know it's christmas ♪ and it's our favorite >>> i'm in the dog house. talk about taking the christ out of christmas. one school changed the lyrics to "silent night." and purposely left out religious references because they didn't want to offend other religions. ♪ sleep in heavenly peace sleep in heavenly peace ♪ >> the fifth graders never sang the lyrics "holy infant" and "christ the savior is born." some parents are obviously upset. >> it's "silent night." if you're going to remove words to not offend other religions, what about t

a facebook page for phil robertson has 1.3 million likes. 102,000 people signed the i stand with phil position as well. despite the suspension a&e has several hours of duck dynasty programming coming up over the next week. >> thank you very much. appreciate it, anna. >> time now is 5:03. time to look at who is talking. sarah palin is talking about the controversy surrounding duck dynasty. she says it's all about freedom of speech. >> a&e they were quacks onç th one. the marketing department there. they had just recently rolled out their new slogan from their marketing department and it's be original. that translates with a&e's marketing department today, be stupid. to get rid of the most popular patriarch on television today. there are other networks that would nab these guys up in a heartbeat. a & e's screwed up on this one. what phil was saying he was receipting a part of the gospel. the liberal left must think the gospel is insulting and offensive. phil was repeating what is in the bible. we are smart enough to understand what's going on here. we are also smart enough to understa

phil robertson waded into the conflict. the issue is you can say that homosexual acts aren't a sin, having same sex attraction isn't a sin but the problem is homosexuals believe who they are is their identity. homosexuality is their identity. the church is saying to separate the sin from the sinner and they say, no, my identity is my homosexuality. it's two conversations. >> maybe people didn't like the terms vagina and anus. he was asked a question and gave a list of things he said were sinful. >> he didn't do it in the happiest way. they asked -- first of all, what is gq asking a duck caller about sin. >> they wanted the to set him up. >> he answered, what in your mind is sinful. he said, start with homosexual behavior and morph out from there. >> they were talking about it earlier. i'm sure this conversation, 90% of it didn't get in the article. >> my sister is gay. she got civilly married last year. tough for the family. i told her i disagree with homosexual behavior. listen to what she wrote to me this morning. as much

you got to -- if you're going to have him there, let phil be phil if that's what you want to do. >> maybe they knew exactly. maybe they knew exactly what they're doing right now. >> this the most press "gq" has gotten since they did a foldout on how to could a bow tie. >> very useful. >> are you still smoking? >> come after me, christine, i'm here. >> coming parents are not staying silent about this one. a school cuts "jesus christ" out of "christmas carol," "silent night," and we have the tape to prove it. later, a big announcement coming up. [ male announcer ] marie callender's knows all white meat chicken was made to be blanketed in golden breadcrumbs. with whipped mashed potatoes, topped with a thick homemade gravy. so she makes her country fried chicken to be eaten together. so they savor every last bite. marie callender's. ♪ you know it's christmas ♪ and it's our favorite >>> i'm in the dog house. talk about taking the christ out of christmas. one school changed the lyrics to "silent night." and purposely left out religious references because they didn't want to offend other rel

phil ginsberg. (applause) >> it is a real pleasure to be with everyone here today. it takes a village and the village is out. it's not often we get to say the words "our tax dollars at work" with a smile on our face. but we're doing it today. because voters really knew what they were doing a few years back when we passed that $185 million parks bond, neighborhood parks bond and the $10 million invested into lafayette park. i used to live at hyde and geary my first four years when i moved to san francisco, now 36 years ago, and this was my neighborhood park. and i've loved it ever since. the combination of the palms and the pines and everything in between, this is a jewel of a park. and when i saw the fences go up i got a little nervous because, well, it was going to be closed for a while. and i saw on some of the signs that some trees were going to come down which always makes me a little uncomfortable. but now seeing the result, it is magnificent. and, so, i want to thank all the folks who have inv

. >>> the fire storm over phil robertson's gay comments continued today. a & e might be fine walking away from phil, but the robertson family made clear they are sticking by him. in a statement, the family said, quote, we are disappointed that phil has been placed on hiatus for expressing his faith, which is his constitutionally protected right. we can not imagine the show going forward without our patriarch at the helm. we are in discussions with a & e to see what the future is with "duck dynasty." the gay community has since split in their reaction. here is glad reacting. last night on the kelly file. >> this is not a free speech issue. what this -- the defenders of phil robertson are seeking is freedom from consequence. none of us are entitled to that. if i were to say something to you outlandish, glad would never allow me back on here again. we all have to answer to our employers. >> but openly gay feminist professor camille, who is a liberal, slammed the backlash, saying the legacy of free speech is all but dead. >> this is a level of punitive pc utte

wants a dialogue with them and phil robertson. will there be a dialogue when it comes to sitting down with christians and having more tolerance with their points of view? >> phil can say what he wants to. folks at a&e and g.l.a.d. and those who spoke against phil have the right to say the language is offensive. in the g.q. article he talks about how no african-american said jim crow was a bad thing. >> he never said jim crow. >> he said during the jim crow era african-americans were doing well. >> that's not what he said. >> did you read the same interview we read? >> read the quote. don't put words in his mouth. >> he never said jim crow. >> we could sit here all day. >> we can. if you don't want to talk about the facts what's the point of having a discussion? >> i'm trying to talk about the facts. we could sit here all day -- >> you are making up quotes. defending him on a false quote. when did he say jim crow. >> he said it in the gq article. in the text of the article. >> richard, here is the thing. you cannot put words in the

phil would never incite or encourage hate. we are disappointed phil was placed on hiatus for expressing his faith which is his constitutionally protected right. we have had a successful working with relationship with a&e but we can't imagine going forward without our patriarch at the helm. fox news reached out and a&e said we have no further comment. log onto sean's facebook page. do you think a&e executives should reverse the decision about phil robertson? and you can sound off using twitter with the hash tag # hannity. we bring in rick unger, todd starns and the great remy spencer. welcome. mr. unger, phil robertson was accused of intolerance but he never advocated anyone being fired for being gay but gay groups want him fired. who is intolerant? >> this may be only the time a liberal says something to you that you will believe. there will be no end of "duck dynasty" on a&e. it is the most profitable show they have ever had. >> in addition to making a bad decision they have no principles. >> they have nine of ten episodes fo

first we back up to phil robertson's bible study group. what happened? >> well, he, like you said, is he sticking to his guns. he is saying, look, he repeated pretty much line and verse what he said to the gq reporter. he says he believes homosexuality is going to be part of a thing that ruins the country. he said he himself this is interesting sexually sinned solved that issue my getting married to a woman and sticking to it if you can make sense of the comment. he said i am who i am. i'm not going to change anything. and the family is completely behind him. you know, greta, one of the things that occurred to me is, is that they suspended phil robertson but when you think about it a&e has got to know his family feels exactly the way he does. so they are sticking with the family but not with phil none of this is making sense with a&e. >> is a&e saying anything? >> well, i am talking to people there. what can i tell is you this they made their decision in no small part because there is a lot of gay people who work at the network. and the ceo of a&e felt h

and phil robertson is a part of that season. all these cast members, the family members are saying they will not do the show without phil. that isn't going to happen because of something called an ironclad contract. the show will go on and i believe that phil will also come back for another season. >> this season's already taped. >> this season's already taped. but i'm saying, season six, he'll be back on. >> first amendment's being thrown around, but the first amendment's about protection from government. is this issue really a first amendment issue? or is it more about the right to say what you want regardless of your belief without blowback? >> well, this is what particularly bothers me here. i think you have so many elites out there who have gotten used to over so many decades to see a particular demographic made fun of, you know. we saw it during the "beverly hillbillies," with a lot of like the new york, l.a., boston -- >> go after the turn of the cheek crowd. >> exactly. and they're okay with that crowd as long as they do

i wouldn't even try to get ahold of phil because phil, if anyone knows phil, he doesn't carry a cell phone on him. he's an extremely hard to reach out in the woods. >> sure. so that's where they're standing. you have the show that's garnering between 9 and 14 million people watching it. now they're in repeats going forward. could you say -- are you surprised, number one, that those comments appeared in a gq magazine? were you surprised where this has gone? >> well, i was surprised it was gq magazine. you know, in today's tolerant world, i feel like that we all have to have our own beliefs. we have to believe in something. we have to be willing to speak out about our beliefs when we're asked about them. that's all that phil did. i feel like that's important today. if not, then we live in a tolerant society that we just stand by, next thing you know, we all believe in nothing and i feel like that -- everybody knows phil is going to stand up for what he believes in and that's one of the reasons why we support phil robertson and the "duck dynasty" is that they believe in the same beliefs

they called for the head of phil robertson on a platter. they didn't want someone able to speak to this. when you are in a fight you go after the biggest guy, tie to knock him out so the others run. glad goes after people with with platforms who will talk about natural marriage or biblical morality and tie to knock them out and silence them to intimidate others. jeremy was talking about glad and their mission. last year they gave one of the highest awards to a guy named dan savage who attacked everybody from the pope to schoolgirls. he traffics in some of the most vile conversations. they are recognizing him with awards. they are not about conversation. they are about demon yiezing and marginalizing people who hold traditional moral views. >> how do we get past it? there was a way for phil to say thisful i believe in the bible. i think the bible objects to homosexuality so i don't believe in that. that's my belief. you don't hear g.l.a.d. coming out and starting fires when people talk like that. the way he put it and though i agree with you

phil went on to say again, and i quote, i love all men and women. i'm a lover of humanity,

a and e has shut up phil for quoting the bible. >> duck dynasty star phil robertson has been suspended indefinitely now by a and e. >> robertson was suspended for saying, this and i'm quoting: everything is blurred on what's right and what's wrong. start with homosexuality behavior and more out from here. >> down in the south you explain the birds and bees to the grandson via the craw fish. >> idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy the drunkard the slanderers they will not inherit the kingdom of god. >> the fact that they are legitimate and rural and country folk and bible folk and all the rest of it, let them be. >> don't marry some yuppy girl. >> the first prerequisite for marrying a woman, can she cook? >> if your woman cooks better than your momma, you got one. >> excuse me for just a second here, but who is being discriminated against here excepted phil robertson? who just lost a job because of his religious beliefs. >> father, we thank you for this good food you have blessed us with. help us to love you more and love each other, amen. >> if i were t

was phil being phil. problem is some of these people now that the show has taken offlike it has, these are probably things you keep in the family. >> somebody had that conversation with you. >> do i don't blame ae for the business decision they clearly made. >> if they were going to be honest, don't send him home, just make it part of the show. >> that would be an editorial decision. bob is right. i'm all for the free market figuring out this rather than us telling whether -- i don't want to tell ae they made a mistake. they made a decision to cater to or at least advertise to the gray community. that was their decision. whether it's a good business decision we'll find out. we'll see if the gray community says it was worth while or if it's a bad decision. if viewer ship goes down because of it, they catered to the wrong group. that's what the constitution is for. say whatever you want. just you bear the fruits of whatever you're saying in the aftermath. let's figure it out. it's not a crisis. >> what do y

phil robertson has every right to be a bigot. but phil robertson's employer has made a business decision in suspecting him. this is a free market at work, folks. this is capitalism at work. and the a & e network is a private business, a business trying to protect its relationship with viewers and advertisers. suspending robertson. it just seems really strange that they don't understand the suspension. no one in the government, no one anywhere, is telling phil robertson he can't go out anywhere across america and say the exact same things tonight that he did in that interview to "gq" magazine. joining me now for our rapid response panel, goldie taylor of the grio.com. and also the ring of fire radio host, mike papantonio. great to have you with us tonight. i've got a lot of opinions on this. my talk show the last two days has been one call after another. pat, why are politicians even jumping into this dispute? ted cruz, who is always jumping in front of the parade. you've got bobby jindal, who has got a successful show in his own

and phil thanks for coming (clapping) where am i? okay. before that he we're going to item number 9 before we entertain a motion for a closed session we still have to continue the meeting please leave the room quietly. okay madam clerk, please call items 9 through 11 and those are claims >> before we entertain a motion to convene in closed session any members of the public wish to speak or those items. seeing none, public comment is closed colleagues is there a motion to convene in closed session >> okaypasses. >> i'm city deputy attorney the committee and make any decisions during the brief closed session and, in fact, the member of the room didn't leave the room a member of the public wanted to make public comment and didn't understand that the public comment was closes so they want to reopen public comment before going back into closed session. >> did he need to officially reopen closed session or resend the vote. we're going to a reopen the public comment on items 9 through 11 any public comment you have two minutes >> good afternoon c

it seems to me that phil robertson did not want to apologize. that pushed a&e to have to do something he didn't want to do. >> you would have said, cutters, okay if you apologize i won't suspend you, if you don't apologize i will suspend you. for how long? bring him back in 10 days? what are you going to do. >> i think they will try to bring him back because without him there is no show. make a lot of money and get even bigger ratings. everybody has heard of "duck dynasty" now. a&e should not be surprised to learn that this guy who they hired as a bible toting, praying, big mouth outdoors man is shooting off his mouth. >> of course they shouldn't be surprised. both of you would have suspended him had he not apologized. so we are on the record there final question for both of you, bernie first. is it unreasonable, all right? for the american public to be angry about this? both sides, all right? so people who think robertson is a religious fanatic and a threat, they are angry and the people who think he is just sticking up for the bible, they are

s a laugh and phil robertson gets suspended. he and sarah palin took to tv to voice their opinions. >> he was reciting a part of the gospel. the liberal left must feel that the gospel then is insulting and offensive. >> he's a good man. i know he has love in his heart and wants everybody to be treated with equality and respect. >> a&e, they were kwauks on this one. >> here's where it's hypocritical of hollywood and the left. they are for diversity, for tolerance, they are for minority views and opinions. unless you disagree with them. >> so many american families have spilled blood and treasure to guarantee phil robert son and everybody else's right to voice their opinion. >> there's an ongoing assault for those right now that are speaking up for the religious believes. for anybody who dares to disagree with them who are not politically correct who don't agree coming out of the the extreme left. >> this incident could endanger the successful show. the family says they can't imagine the show going forward without phil robertson.

phil talked about the giant sweep. you might have seen some of these ads on some of the buses or billboards. it's our latest campaign to instill pride back into our city. we're going into our schools, working with neighborhood groups -- there you go, phil. we're working together to make sure that san francisco continue to be clean and green. we have the park it in, park it out campaign in the parks. we have the pick it up on the street. and next week we'll be bringing in new buses into san francisco and we're working with the mta to make sure that when you ride the bus that the buses are clean. so, we have a booth over there. please visit our booth. we have lots of information, a bare minimum, sign the pledge that you want to see san francisco be a cleaner city. thank you for this event. congratulations, and i know we're all going to see many more of these parks all across san francisco as nice and beautiful as this one. thank you. (applause) >> thank you. when i say pack it in, you say... pack it in. pack it in. >> pa

so i'm able to say what phil robertson and sarah palin said is discriminatory. that's what the first amendment allows me to do as well as a citizen. >> should the man lose his job for this? can the market sort it out? i bring this up aware of the fact cracker barrel maybe the ultimate red state restaurant, i think of whole foods as being the grocer to the blue states and cracker barrel as feeding the red states. cracker barrel did an about face. initially they weren't going to sell the "duck dynasty" gear. then they apologized to their constituency and said they are going to sell it. i'm wondering should the mark just take care of all the bad behavior that's out there and let people judge accordingly? >> i think i'm okay with that. first of all, i am always one breath away from saying something totally stupid. okay? >> me too. >> i think anybody who operates in live and public sphere recognizes we all say dumb stuff. and we all don't want to be one syllable away from being fired for the next stupid thing we say. and in the end, you know, people have a right to e

phil robertson he stood up for orthodox christian beliefs, it is no big deal for him. because he is wealthy, but what about all the people who may make one mistake in the office place, or say something that expresses their faith that doesn't fit -- they are going to lose their job. and with nothing for them to fall back on, i think there needs to be a lot of push back, not to depend what phil said, but to be less intolerant and besides he doesn't do this on the show, my kids can watch his show, they love his show, if he did that on the show, i would feel a lot different about it. >> isn't she being hypocritical? she and many of her allies were screaming bloody murder when martin bashir made some very awful comments about her. >> and he should have been fired. what he said, the way he literally attacked homo sexuals as though they are leading a evil lifestyle. to come and support that type of speech is outrageous. >> there's a huge online backlash. when whilely cyrus does he is twerking and very sexualized routine in august, again, that was something that had been rehea

whose side are you on, phil, the ducks or a&e? >> drama is about conflict and a&e says no drama against power centers in america, xeps gay power center. you are out automatically. the thought police weigh in there, too. they should have a gay person come on and confront him and then you will have some drama. >> ben, always good to have you on. thanks so much for being with us tonight. >> thank you. >> all right. >> thank you. >>> and now the results of tonight's poll. we asked, should phil robertson have been suspended? majority of you said, no, keep his job. janet simply writes duck no. james tweets, yes, i do think he needed to be suspended for his inappropriate remarks. jan fires bag by tweeting, the publicist that approved the interview should be fired. that's it for us tonight. thank you for joining us. remember to facebook and friend me on facebook. follow me on twitter. remember, my book "clever fox." makes a great holiday gift. maybe in your stocking. see you in 2014. that's next year. merry christmas. condition since then

phil, what does the future look like, buddy? report i feel like i'm looking hopefully the future looks like friendly cp 30 from star worse than robots from terminator films. this one of the robots. 171700 from around the world this is a one you're looking at made which western slope colorado guys. this robot is a quadroped. he has four legs and his name is buddy. coming up at top of the hour he will have to go over the sinned every blocks, a built of an obstacle course. each of the robots must accomplish eight tasks. they include things like climbing a ladder, lifting wood, walking through debris. at least two robot has two arms, two legs and hands that grip. the idea in the future to help humans and even rescue humans. >> if all goes according to plan and if some of those robots really perform as well as darpa wants them to, we're close to very soon having robots capable of going into disaster situations and replacing human beings and taking them out of harm's way. >> reporter: we are at the homestead raceway just south of miam

phil would never insight or encourage hate. now surfacing, a video from 2010, showing robertson in a pennsylvania pulpit preaching morality. >> women with women, men with men, they committed indecent acts with one another and they received in themself the due penalty for their perversion. they're full of murder, envy, strife. they are arrogant god haters. >> he has the right to say what he wants to say. a & e made a decision that those views are not american views and do not represent their brand as a network and they pulled him. >> reporter: now, coming out of the woodwork are robertson supporters, even pledging their support on twitter with the #standbyphil. ted cruz and sarah palin taking a stand behind the boys from the bayou as well. palin saying on her facebook page, free speech is an endangered species. those intolerance, hating and taking on the "duck dynasty" patriarch for voicing his personal opinion are taking on all of us. >> the left keep saying they're for tolerance except for people that disagree with them. it's

it seems like -- i don't know -- phil knew what we were getting with phil. why is this a shock that cause add national fire storm? >> it's disingenuous for a&e to suggest they didn't know this. he was stating a belief a lot of christians hold and will continue to hold. i'm shocked they are shocked, i suppose. as for the separation of it from being a legal issue it's not a first amendment issue. it is a free speech issue. t this is an over reach and people -- i'm not trying to offend anybody. i think that's where it should be now. a&e, i think they may retract this, by the way. >> kwox. -- i don't think so. he make as roekry quote of the bible, talks about homosexuality but later in the interview, his comments about african-americans -- >> we have it. stand by. let me put it on the screen. here it is. he's talking about precivil rights. he says i never with my eyes saw the mistreatment of any black person. not once. i hoed cotton with them. i'm with the blacks because we are white trash. i never heard one of them, one black person say, these dog-gone white pi

no phil, no snow. they already said that and they should leave a&e regardless if they bring phil back they have shown their true colors. >> i would like to hear glaad respond to what tammy bruce just said. tammy bruce, that was like the smartest summation of tolerance that i think i have heard in an awfully long time. i would love to know he how they would respond to that. >> listen what david said: my prediction, a&e will re-think their position. viewership will be higher than ever and "duck dynasty" family make more money than ever before. we will see what happens. >> yeah, we will. and i think "duck dynasty" will win in the end. finally somebody who doesn't cower at the network hide his religious believes. thank god won't hide for a man who will not hide his religious beliefs for the almighty dollar. >> there are too many things in america you can't say. too many of us are worried about expressing what we really think because you can be punished for it do you want to live in a country like that? i d

and phil thanks for coming (clapping) where am i? okay. before that he we're going to item number 9 before we entertain a motion for a closed session we still have to continue the meeting please leave the room quietly. okay madam clerk, please call items 9 through 11 and those are claims >> before we entertain a motion to convene in closed session any members of the public wish to speak or those items. seeing none, public comment is closed colleagues is there a motion to convene in closed session >> okay moved and seconded motion

this actually puts phil robertson in a tough spot. >> phil takes great pride in trimming the christmas tree. which always creates quite the mess. >> the aw, shucks defense is bogus, but sadly, at least for now, it's working. take your cell phones out. tonight's question. does being a christian excuse bigotry. a. for yes, b. for no to 67622 or go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com and i'll bring the results later in the show. let me bring in dr. michael eric dyson, msnbc political analyst and importantly for the purposes of this discussion, a theologian in his own right, as well as a man of great verbal mellifluous talent. the religious part of this is important. because the bible, as plainly interpreted, can be complicated. >> sure. >> it can be somewhat vague sometimes. >> absolutely. >> and can't you find as much exhortation against christmas trees if you want to read it that way as you can against homosexuality. >> all this can be in terms of the bible. the bible can be taken out of context. we've heard it before. if you heard it as a text out of context, a pretext and subtext, you're all