journalist james foley says she is "appalled" by the u.s. government's handling of her son's imprisonment by isis militants. diane foley told cnn the government threatened her family with prosecution if they tried to raise money for foley's ransom. she also criticized the broader u.s. response toward isis. >> we are dealing with very difficult people when we are .alking about isis their hate for us is great, yet some of our response to them has only increased the eight. we'll hear from james foley in his own words from a 2012 interview at anti-nato protests in chicago later in the broadcast. al-qaida-linked syrian rebels on -- have released all 45 fijian peacekeepers they had held captive for two weeks, the -- a on heights. the united states marked the anniversary of an 11. meanwhile, chile marked the 41st across the border chile marked the 41st anniversary of its own , 9/11 on thursday. on september 11, 1973, democratically elected president salvador allende was ousted in a u.s. coup, ushering in 17 years of brutal dictatorship under august

the james foley execution appeared to take place on some elevated piece of ground. this execution appears to take place more in a hollow in the desert. it is also very wriindy. whereas in the james foley execution video, there was a lot less wind noise, only a very slight breeze could be heard on that video from time to time. so, it does possibly indication that this was a different location. we don't know how far apart. it could be just a few hundred yards apart. possibly a different day. the day steven sotloff seems to have been executed was much windier, wolf. >> . >>> and carl, i want to be precise on the executioner. we don't know for sure the person who beheaded james foley, the executioner is the same who beheaded steven sotloff, although you point out, there are similarities. they are both left-handed and speak with a london british accent. they seem to be the same height. is that right? >> yeah. we have to go right back to the basics. although the british ambassador said that he believed british intelligence services were very close to identifying james fol

here is the killing of james foley. the terrain, time of day, the weather all seem to be generally similar. but there are many details similar, too. in each case, the victims are dressed in orange which analysts say isis uses to. >> mike r.: the jump suits worn by prisoners at guantanamo. in each video, the executioner wears black, keeping his face almost entirely covered. he has a gun and holds a medium sized knife which looks very similar in his left hand. he has the same general body build, gestures and demeanor. so is this the same person? listen to the voice in this latest video. >> you, obama, having to gain from your actions for another american citizen. just as your the opportunity to strike our people, our knife will continue to strike the necks of your people. >> now compare that to the voice in the murder of james foley. >> any attempt by you, obama, to deny did the muslims their rights of living in safety under the islamic caliphate will result in the blood shed of your people. >> intelligence analysts say i

media is focussed on james foley's story. i.s.i.s., and i.s.i.l., any stories are good news, welcome, but who cares about the saudis the saudis have been cutting off heads for as long as anyone can remember. one of the people whose head was cut off was charged with witchcraft. to me, this is horrifying in our modern age, but it happened, and yet i scanned the u.s. media and canadian media for science of nothing. >> the foley story fits clearly into a narrative we see in the u.s. media, that wants to identify is victim headed by members of i.s.i.s. and they want the story that they are covering to have a clear moral compass about what is right and wrong, who is good, who is evil. the story in saudi arabia, from the u.s. perspective is complicated and ambiguous. we are not sure how to slot in the people beheaded. >> all media exists not in a vacuum, but in relationship to an audience, and journalism is going to be sympathetic, and more aligned with audience that it serves, than with a distant remote remote audience. when a west

he was last seen in the video of james foley's murder 13 days ago. the killers warning that sotloff would be next if the united states did not stop its attacks on the terrorist group. ca karl penhaul, sotloff looks different in the two videos, the one we saw today and the one 13 day ago, enough so that it seems they weren't done the same day, right? >> absolutely. two or three indicators there that suggest these two videos were not filmed at the same time. take a look at sotloff in first video 13 days ago, he appeared with a virtual shaved head. and also he didn't appear to have any growth or facial growth. in this video we've seen today he clearly has more hair and he also has evidence of stubble and a small beard. also in the video that we've seen today, there seems to be a lot of noise from the wind. in the video we saw two weeks ago very little wind noise. there's also another indicator and that the fact that the executioner refers to the u.s. air strikes on the town of amal-e in northeast iraq. that could put the time of stephen sotloff's execut

this is on a lower patch of ground, not from an elevated position like in the james foley video. and also, it appears to have been a much windier location. you can hear the wind battering across the top of the microphone. one of the scenes from that also shows steven's body with a severed head on top of that body, brooke. >> and karl, just so we're clear, because we don't know when this execution took place in conjunction with the previous one with james foley but again, it's that same masked man with the british accent. correct? >> certainly appears to be the same masked man, from what we can tell, the sound that appears on the video is also has been recorded simultaneously. it hasn't been dubbed on top. those are the things that we want to take a look at. but a very similar accent, an accent that linguistic experts have described to us from the previous james foley video of sounding like a southern london multicultural accent. brooke? >> karl, stand by for me. bob baer, i want to get straight to you. when we talked about the execution of james foley, and you can see the isis mi

it's the same methodology of the james foley video. a british citizen, according to "the guardian" newspaper, part of a three-man ring of jihadis known as the beetles. they are addressing the west. they are saying, we have rejected your way of life and your civilization. we have now joined this radical trans national terrorist army stroke state and coming soon to a theater near you. that is the message that they are trying to underscore with this. >> you are in kiev. we know president obama is headed to estonia before going to this -- >> yes. >> the stakes are huge in wales but speaking about the greater since of this global affairs, what is happening where you are, russia, ukraine, and now with isis, the stakes were already obviously high but how does this beheading of the second american -- and by the way, there was a second person in the steven sotloff video we should point. how does this news change the equation and the priority for the presidents at this meeting on thursday? >> well, probably in the least e enviable position. tryi

foley's family announced the james w. foley legacy fund to support families of american hostages and aid american journalists reporting from conflict zones. >>> on this week isis will dominate the discussions. white house chief of staff will talk about the latest on the administration's strategy against the extremist group. you can see this week with george stephanopoulos at 8:00 here on abc 7. >>> sheriffs deputies are investigating the shooting death of a woman at her glen allen home. they say it was just before 7:00 last night when a man called 911. he reported his wife had attacked him with a knife and that he shot her.

this is following the beheading of james foley. the white house has not confirmed the video but offering condolences if found true. >> this is something that the administration has been watching very carefully since the threat against mr. sotloff's made a couple of weeks ago. our thoughts and prayers with mr. sotloff and his family. the united states, as you know, dedicated time and resources to trying and rescue mr. sotloff. i am not in the position to confirm the video or the reports at this point. but this, if a video is released it is going to be analyzed carefully. >> a short time ago the u.s. state department commented on the video. >> we have seen reports of a video that purports to be the murder of u.s. citizen steven sotloff and the u.s. is working to determine if it is genuine. and if it is true, we are sickened. our hearts go out to the sotloff family. >> we are joined live from washington, d.c. and no confirmation yet? >> no, this is breaking in the past hour and going along with the white house briefing and half an hou

we go to analysts filmmaker and friend of stephen sotloff and james foley. matthew, good to have you on the program. all the information you have heard indicates that your friend has been killed. what are your thoughts? >> it's very difficult. i lost two friends in two weeks to a ruthless organization, and it's--it's tragic. i've spoken with the families before. i'm sure they're heartbroken. >> had a are your thoughts--it just occurred to ask you this, what are your thoughts about isis, isil, at this point. the cause that they're fighting for this islamic caliphate. >> they're radical lunatics. they take a path that most muslims don't agree with. they've captured people, sold them into slavery. murdered people. beheaded people. it's an organization that is out of control and it's medieval, really. >> when is the last time you spent any time with stephen? >> i had dinner with stephen a few weeks before going to syria. we talked about syria. we talked about james foley, actually. >> what were your concerns going back in to syria. >> at this time some journalis

foley. and protests in east jerusalem continue sparked by the july murder of a palestinian teen and the aftermath many in that same family have been be in or arrested so is this family being targeted the discussion with them coming up. and tensions between nato and russia as delayed as fighting in the east of ukraine continues thousands of civilians remain under bund barden and without food water or electricity more on that later in the show. it's september second four pm in washington d.c. i mean you're a david and you're watching r.t. america. we begin today with the tragic news out of syria the islamic militant group isis has beheaded stephen sought lawford american freelance journalist who was abducted a year ago a video was made public today that shows the brutal murder the video titled a second message to america opens with a clip of president obama talking about isis after the death of james foley another american journalist who fell victim to the same fate just two weeks ago speaking

the reported death is coming weeks after killing fellow journalist james foley. sigh, there is little doubt that sotloff was killed. keeping in mind that james foley was killed just weeks ago and now it is filing like open season on the journalists trying to do their jobs in iraq. >> yes, that is how it feels. if you go back to 2013, that open season opened that summer, when david sotloff was abducted. i was actually in the same town in november 2013 as james foley in northern syria. i happened to be travelling in and he was coming out when he was taken, i suppose that was a lucky day for me, we managed to get through the town. that is when we saw the numbers of the kidnappings climb. a lot of the kidnaps are never reported. sotloff's mother asked for a media blackout after he was taken and making them recognize they were not going to get the publicity. and he wasn't freed. now we are looking as you say as those have been taken are in a dreadful situation. now we believe steven sotloff has been killed. the next video is threatening a british hostage. >> you know

and those who have murdered james foley and stephen sotloff in syria need to know that the united states will hold them accountable too, no matter how long it takes. i want to emphasize -- [applause] >> but here today, what is really important -- and i want to take advantage of this podium and of this moment to underscore as powerfully as i know how that the face of islam is not the butchers who killed stephen sotloff. that's isil. [applaus [applause] >> the face of islam is those who know how to destroy, not to build. it's not masked cowards who's acts are an an insult to -- who's fundamental principles they insult with their actions. the real face of islam is a peaceful religion based on the dignity of all human beings. it's one where muslim communities are leading the fight against poverty, one where muslim communities are providing basic care and emergency assistance on the front lines of some of our most devastating humanitarian crises. and it is one where muslim communities are advocating the universal humidity rights and fundamental freedoms, including the most basic freedom to pr

. >> and rescue operation by james foley murdered by isis. and the former pentagon official hesitant to proceed and asking for the intelligence to build up more. >> it takes time to be informed enough to conduct that operation. intelligence is not perfect and layered over time. and not unlike the way you all do your jobs when you are working with sources. >> and just to be clear. the allegation that there was delay in the foley rescue operation was first reported by the sunday times of london. and we have provided new detail about that claim. and we are waiting for a response from the national security council. and we'll have questions in at the white house briefing and pentagon briefing as well, john. >> more on that later today. thank you. >> and in just a couple of hours, president obama heads to europe for meetings with baltic and nato leaders. expected to focus on russia and ukraine. nato leaders are planning what they call a rapid reaction force that can deploy to the area within 48 hours. this as russian president vladimar putin is quo

he kneels in the same position as the previous victim, james foley. as a masked person stands over him with a knife, sotloff speaks directly to the camera and recites what appears to be a coerced statement about "paying "he price for u.s. airstrikes against the group. the man with a knife, who also issues a warning that isil will continue to kill americans if the strikes continue. >> i'm back, obama, because of you and your insistence on continuing your bombings, despite are serious warnings. for your actions, just another american citizen. knife will continue to strike the necks of your people. >> steven sotloff was kidnapped about a year ago in syria while working as a freelance journalist. on tuesday, a film maker, a friend of sotloff, said he was dedicated to reporting on the middle east. for the region. he took time to understand the region and understand the people, to make friends and contacts there, to learn the language, to drink the tea. he was really set on doing things that way and really getting -- it allowed him to get stories. attackry

and we saw that with james foley. a lot of people are making a conscious effort to spread alternative pictures of james foley rather than the video of him being beheaded. everything these days it has been this way but especially now with the internet. it's the struggle for narratives and stories. we just have to tell better stories. >> thank you for being with me this morning. see you soon. >> thank you. >>> up next nancy writebol expected to speak within the next few minutes about he recovery from ebola. we'll talk to a doctor about the crisis of ebola after the break. you, my friend are a master of diversification. who would have thought three cheese lasagna would go with chocolate cake and ceviche? the same guy who thought that small caps and bond funds would go with a merging markets. it's a masterpiece. thanks. clearly you are type e. you made it phil. welcome home. now what's our strategy with the fondue? diversifying your portfolio? e*trade gives you the tools and resources to get it right. are you type e*? thi

journalist james foley was beheaded. has got the story. it's a scenario that we've seen before when another american journalist james foley was beheaded two weeks ago similar orange jumpsuits a desert setting an executioner with a british accent in both videos and now the westerner threatened to be killed next when these islamic states your heart is beheaded james foley to leave sicko they showed stephen sokoloff in that same video and vowed to kill him unless the u.s. started air strikes against the isis so those mother addressed the isis shortly before he was killed here i ask you to please my child. as a mother i ask you justice to be merciful and not punish my son for matters he has no control over. who was kidnapped at the syria turkey border last year he was thirty one years old he had written for the time and foreign policy magazines he reported from syria turkey egypt raid after steve insult the islamic state is threatening to execute david paints a british citizen david hainsworth reportedly had experience with the british militar

foley we have possibly the biggest extremist p.r. coup since nine eleven i think this comparable images that in terms of london's bombings in madrid bombings and also the death of lee rigby the soldier on the streets of london last year. and i think you know the argument is is that there is a sense that however horrific and gory and extreme the decapitation of james foley is it seems seems strange that only now we're recognizing the plight of iraqis in syria as you are suffering similar of similar fates that there are at the hands of isis and it does there is a risk a very serious risk that you're sending a message that one american life is more valuable than countless thousands of iraq in syria and one's ok you are in line at one of the interesting things is that we look at this ongoing tragedy in syria where no one is faultless when it be time logically speaking to make amends with assad and take on according to the u.s. state department. if defense department the most horrific threat to the world then take on isis together that wo

the parents of beheaded american journalist james foley in their first joint interview. dubai and john foley talk candidly about fig finding out their son was executed by isis. how the u.s. government trend them with possible prosecution if they paid ransom to bring their son home and how they are turning their deep grief into a frontal help others. you will hear it all straight from the foleys the day we spoke with them at their new hampshire home. >> thank you very much for letting me come here. >> you are welcome, greta. >> it's so hard to talk to grieving parents. it's part of what we do in our work regrettably. so i want to start sort of the by talking about your

foley we have possibly the biggest extremist p.r. coup since nine eleven i think this comparable images that in terms of london's bombings in madrid bombings and also the death of lee rigby the soldier on the streets of london last year. and i think you know the argument is is that there is a sense that however horrific and gory and extreme the decapitation of james foley is it seems seems strange that only now we're recognizing the plight of iraqis and seriously are suffering similar of similar fates that they're at the hands of isis and it does there is a risk a very serious risk that you're sending a message that one american life is more valuable than countless thousands of iraqi and syrian ones ok you want to line it one of the interesting things is that we look at this ongoing tragedy in syria where no one is faultless would it be time logically speaking to make amends with assad and take on the according to the u.s. state of. if defense department the most horrific threat to the world then take on isis together that would be l

that is the group that released the video two weeks ago of james foley. the group put about 15 to 20 releases on a monthly basis only in english, french, german, you name it of suicide bombers and other fighters that died or just a video of kids holding the flag of isis and calling on people to join the group. >> and that has been, as you say, the lifeblood of the recruitment effort. what is the most effective tactic for fighting back online? the u.s. government has been trying counter messaging? some of these tech companies have been getting more aggressive about kicking off this content as soon as it comes up. what works? >> i never believe that counter messaging will be the only successful thing. we're talking about individuals that i usually describe in my speeches as individuals in their teenage where it doesn't matter what the parent will tell them, they will not listen to them. we have all of the different examples of prisoners that were inside the arabian and other air rain countries in special rehabilitation programs. at the end of the day, it di

it was the same language they used about james foley. that opens the door, of course, to counterterrorism operations. the u.s. is involved in many counterterrorism operations in many parts of the world. details coming today from an attack aimed at the al-shabaab rupe in somalia -- group in somalia. the u.s. is focused, it says, trying to build a coalition of countries to take part in any possible action. defense secretary chuck hagel will be focusing on that at the nato summit, and then afterwards in the middle east. >> richard walker there in washington. thank you for bringing us up to date. amnesty international says the brutality of the islamic state militants in northern iraq amounts to ethnic cleansing. the human rights group has documented atrocities by the extremists, including expulsions and horrific mass executions of iraqis belonging to the sed faith and other minorities. >> the latest report could provide evidence for war crimes investigations announced earlier this week by the un's human rights council. >> it may not look lik

he even holds the same knife as the james foley video did. what investigators are now doing is they're analyzing that voice to see if it is in fact the same man or somebody who's just dressed up like him. they're trying to figure out the exact time. it does appear this video was shot at least a few days later. we can tell by the amount of hair growth on sotloff in that. it seems to be shot in a slightly different area. have they identified the man in that video? they certainly may have, but they have not made that public yet. because, remember, there's a lot at stake. not only does the militant have the distinct british accent. but also of course the next victim they threatened to behead is a british hostage. so britain is very much drawn into this. >> speaking of that british hostage, we saw him at the end of the video being threatened once again. what do we know about an effort, an earlier effort to try to rescue him? >> yes, british foreign secretary phillip hammond referenced that, saying there had been an attempted rescue but it failed.

with james foley, it took 24 hours. obviously they're working as quickly as they can. if what we fear turns out to be true, chris, this is an incredibly sad day for the sotloff family and friends an our thoughts are with them tonight. >> does the american government know how many americans are being held by isis? >> there are a small number of americans being held. we don't give the precise number out of safety. we're putting every tool behind finding them and hopefully bringing them home. we also will be looking at the video from today, intelligence committee will, to find any information they can use to identify the man in the video, the isis member eventually so we can hold them accountable for what they may have done. >> how does the state department interpret these videos? seems to me there are two ways to see them. one as a kind of provocation to bait america into more attacks on isis or being sucked into an even bloodier, more protracted engagement in iraq. the other is as warning, which is the kind of surface text of these missives. we are killing these people

this time american juournalist steven sotloff two weeks after james foley lost his life. it was just days ago steven sotloff's mother beg is isis to spare her son. tonight an urgent manhunt for the mysterious man in a hood appearing now with a message now for president obama. we have team coverage and we begin with abc's chief investigative correspondent brian ross. >> reporter: u.s. officials said today steven sotloff never had a once the 31-year-old american journalist was in the hands of the group. the emotional plea for his life from his mother clearly had no impact on her son's killers. >> i ask you to please release my child. as a mother, i ask your justice to be merciful and not punish my son for matters he has no control over. >> reporter: isis said it killed sotloff because of president obama's decision to continue the u.s. bombing of isis targets in iraq. today as the president left for meetings in europe over the threat from isis, the only comment came from his press secretary. >> our thoughts and prayer is first and foremost are with mr. sotloff and his family

>> and pamela, of course we're talking about the james foley video. there was the subsequent execution of steven. it sounds like the same man. when you talk about all this extensive analysis, do they believe it is the same masked man in both videos? >> well, officials i've been speaking with are cautioning against drawing that connection even though as you point out, both men seem to have similar british accents and similar mannerisms. at this point i'm being told authorities are trying to determine the identity of the militant speaking in that video of americanstein satloff to determine if it is the same as in the james foley video. i'm being told it is too pre mature to know with any certainty. just one week since the video was published. >> as you get these details, they're trying to find out who it is that committed these heinous and horrible acts. we have new polls in tonight of how these videos, how all this affects american people. 71% of americans think icy has terrorists in the united states. 50% support military action. a year ago that was a

you can't do things like give a very grim statement about the be heading owing of james foley and then five minutes later pictures taken of you golfing.owing of j then five minutes later pictures taken of you golfing. suptsers will say that he's just optics. and i've never criticized a president for what they do on vacation. but optics are important. it's also the message you're spending to our enemies. >> it seems one of the reasons we don't have a strategy yet in syria and the president has seemed somewhat at a loss about what to say about it, it's not clear exactly what we can do productively in the situation especially in syria. >> we don't want to help assad obviously. but we've already given assad 18 months of free reign after drawing a red line. >> so what is the way to message the existence of terrible problems in the world that the united states can't necessarily do anything productive about? is there a way to say that without looking weak shall. >> you just did a pretty good job. you don't say the world is safer than 20 years ago, but now people have social media. that's what

>> james foley legacy fund. and we believe he has a lot to continue. he was a kind soul and cared for everyone. both in prison and outside and testimony he had survived, we believed he would want to do anything he possibly could to support current hostages, hostage families so this will be our major effort to work on this issue. >> when he was overseas, he was also captured in libya. and, when he came back, did he talk to you about the people there? was this sort of -- was his mission to sort of help people or was it journalism? what was it about him? >> when he came back, he just told us how beautiful the libyan people were. i remember when he called from prison in libya and telling me how good they were to him. >> ma. >> yeah, that he they were treating him like a guest in the prison, the fellow prisoners were. >> in libya? >> in libya. they were political prisoners. in syria he was compelled to be there and see what was happening. give voice to the people struggling for freedom give voice to the civilians in the middle of the war. >> he loved the ci

after james foley, i believe it was two weeks to the day that they shared the execution tape of steven sotloff, and now i think it's been about 11 days or so since then. so a little bit less time. what would be the strategy now to try and save allen henning? what should be going on behind the scenes besides his family? >> unfortunately, and i think bob and nic both alluded to this, it doesn't look good. they have shown no interest in any kind of negotiation with the british or the americans. because they regard these two powers as their key enemies right now. and they're doing everything they can to draw us into this fight. it almost looks like the battle lines are being drawn. they want to have this fight. and they believe they can win. they know and they're very astute, not only technologica y technologically, but politically. they understand the divisions going on both in the united states and the united kingdom right now. they know the argument. do we engage, fight, attack them. and they believe that they have the upper hand here. and it's going to be interesting to see how this pl

journalist james foley in august. the white house not confirming whether it believes steven sotloff has been killed, but offered its condolences. patty culhane reports from washington d.c. >> reporter: we will not show you what are believed to be steven sotloff's final moment. in a video his killer blaming president obama for the beheading after the president ordered limited strikes on the islamic state group. the man, speaking english with a british accent, sells the use that this is the second warning and days david haines from england will be next. >> if the video is authentic we are sickened. our hearts go to the sotloff family and we'll provide additional information. >> reporter: went the islamic state group killed james foley two weeks ago, president obama said he would not stop fighting. word leaked that the u.s. forces tried and failed to rescue those kidnapped during the summer. sotloff's mother sent this message asking for mercy. >> steven is a journalist that travelled to the middle east to cover the suffe

those are the words of the mother of james foley. diane foley insisting officials in washington did not do enough to rescue her son in captivity. she tells anderson cooper, efforts to get her son freed were viewed as annoyance by the u.s. government. the fbi was coming to her for information about her son. >> there was a rescue effort apparently made. >> yeah. late. very late. yes. >> it should have been sooner? >> we feel that the location was known for more than a year. >> it was? >> yes. they had been moved a couple of times. that's true. when there was a movement of isis from aleppo to raquah. there were several moves in that transition. there werewo times when they were at location that we were aware of for months. >> diane foley went on to tell anderson that washington threatened her with prosecution if she tried to raise money to free her son. she and government officials tried to work to be supportive to provide the information she could. diane foley says the james foley legacy fund will help other journalists reporting from

this comes two weeks after isis beheaded james foley. and days after the journalist's mother made a plea for mercy on her son. they showed none. for the latest, katherine herod joins us. >> thank you, i have seen the video, it runs about two minutes and 45 seconds. it begins with

several weeks after the beheading of james foley u.s. law officials believe they've identified the masked man in the video. jim acosta is at the white house this morning. good morning, jill. >> reporter: good morning, carol. president obama is laying the groundwork for that big speech on isis tomorrow. in the meantime, he has been meeting with foreign policy experts on the democratic and republican side. he did that last night here at the white house, and later today as you mentioned he'll be sitting down with senior congressional leaders to go over the isis plan as republican leaders appear to be giving him the green light for action. the flood of violence unleashed by isis has mobilized war-weary americans to take on the terror group, even in a bitterly divided washington republicans are backing president obama's expected decision to hit isis hard. >> wherever they go, we're going to have to follow them, and if that leads into syria, then i hope the president has not taken that off the table. >> reporter: a new cnn/orc poll finds three

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