this is a nafta-style agreement. what we wanted is what we promised, that's a new type of trade agreement that would protect american jobs and grow the economy and let everybody win from a trade agreement and not just wall street. this agreement is patterned after cafta and nafta and as a result it's not us stuck in the past. >> ifill: the argument, of course, i'll be the devil's advocate here, is that the north american free trade agreement the one you just referenced, that that was a different time and it was a different place and our technology and where we are in the world now allows us to enforce the kinds of promises that maybe you feel were not kept at that time. >> well, first of all, the rules are the rules. and if you use the same old rules that you did under nafta, you'll get the same results now regardless of a different period of time. second of all, you're right they didn't enforce those rules, and there's nothing in this agreement that will give them more rights, more ways to enforce workers' rights an

they say that's what we heard in nafta 20 years ago. was nafta a job creator? >> i think you can't compare the two. i think this is what i keep emphasizing, the growth going on in the asia-pacific is something we've got to have access to and today, we don't. for example, if you want to sell pork into asia, you could face a tariff of up to 100%. you want to sell autos, you could face a tariff of 80%. chemicals, you could face a tariff of 30%. if a foreign company wants to sell here in the nays often you face a tariff in fact, you face a taf rif of 1.4%. so we're at a real exit i've disadvantage not just with tariffs but with labor and environmental standards and if we don't participate in those markets, our companies will get left behind our workers will get left behind. >> hunt: am i hear you saying nafta may not have been so good but this is different. >> this is different and the time is different. >> hunt: and nafta wasn't so good? >> i'm not going to compare to nafta. what i'm talking about is the world economy today. >> hunt: let's talk about some to have

nafta cost the state 34,000 jobs alone. people in ohio what are they doing? well, they're living in story firsthand. they know the tpp would mean more jobs from ohio to overseas locations. now, recent polling shows that 61% of people in the state of ohio have an unfavorable opinion of the trade deal. only 33% favor the deal. it makes you feel they're really following it. this puts republican senator rob portman in a pretty tough spot as well. the senator is up for re-election in 2016. polling shows that if portman voted for fast track and tpp, 67% of voters in the state of ohio would be less likely to vote for him. only 23% would be more likely to vote for him. hillary clinton needs to take a position on this trade deal definitive, exclusive, where is she? and this is not foreign territory for the candidate. the former senator from new york when she was the senator from new york she voted to deny fast track authority to president bush. 2016 is a whole new ball game considering the trade deficits we have right now. the people of ohio deserve to know where the

world trade organization ruled on monday the requirement violates nafta. this has caused an uproar who demonstrate how free trade can affect u.s. law. house republicans work quickly to repeal the law. it could be from brazile or argentina or southeast asia and have no idea where it came from. as montana senator john tester point pointed out, will see that usda seal to see it's american meat and it's not. this comes at a bad time for president obama as he pushes the tpp. senator elizabeth warren has been citing examples after examples, such as origin of labeling suit in her fight against the tpp. she released a report this week showing united states has a terrible track record on enforcing labor laws. let's go to baltimore where marilyn mosby gives us an update on the freddie gray new video on death. >> circumstances surrounding the tragic incident with the death of freddie gray. may 1st our investigation revealed we had sufficient probable cause to bring charges against six police officers. as our investigation continued, additional information has been di

i vote for fast-track, for nafta. instead of the million new jobs that were promised, by 2010, the united states had lost 700,000 jobs. so instead of standing in a corner figuring out how we're going to lose more jobs, we ought to do something that works for the middle class. let me tell you what happened with nafta. instead of improved pay for our workers, which was promised, nafta pushed down american wages. it empowered employers to sty their workers either -- to say to their workers either accept lower wages and benefits or we are moving to mexico. instead of strengthening our economy, it increased our trade deficit to mexico, which know this year hit $50 billion. before nafta we had a trade surplus with mexico. now we have a trade deficit. so instead of standing in the corner and figuring out how we can have more trade deficits with countries we ought to do something to help the middle class. i want to talk about something that happened in california in santa ana right after nafta. the city had worked hard to kee

let's not forget the record we have from nafta. what about the congress want totion cutingto cut $14 billion in domestic spending. making possible people being subsidized for retraining because of some of the unemployment caused by nafta. while i think there is plenty of good news i think there is room for an awful lot of caution. i know maria you talk to small business folks every day and when you talk to them i think many of them will share what their concerns are. you know del the other thing i want to note is that while many small business owners talk about people being insufficiently trained, we know that there are possibilities with the community colleges that the college -- >> exactly. >> -- has emphasized. this raises questions for me. i think that with the be affordable careaffordablecare act with small business remember we're talking about businesses that have fewer than 500 people. for some mom and pop businesses, that is pretty huge. white the affordable care act makes it possible for people to get health care, what abo

that were created under nafta, too. and anybody who says otherwise is just not telling the truth. in this particular case, we're talking about trillions of dollars of free today over the years, and united states, you know, we're talking about up to 40% to 60% of the world trade. un 95% of trade people live outside of the united states of america. and we've got to be in the real world where we can trade with all these other countries and receive all the benefits of those free frayed agreements. the president happens to be right on this. elizabeth warren she's a nice person and we're friends, but in all honesty, the president is right on this and he deserves support, and i'm supporting him, and hopefully we'll get these bills through. >> woodruff: you mentioned senator warren and we are going to be talking to her right after we talk with you. but one of her main objections is the secrecy that has surrounded this, the fact that the american people can't look at the terms of this deal, that members of congress have to go in

we don't need another nafta. any candidate needs to address the issue into own way. >> what are you backing the wealthy over the workers? workers over the wealthy. >> i -- >> i think it's obvious the issue we're talking about here have a huge impact on the people of new york city. and when you think of what's happening in our city, 46% of people in our city at or near the poverty level. those are the statistics developed in the bloomberg administration. the ways we address that involve national policy. we can do a lot at the local level and trying to do with affordable housing in increasing paid sick leave and living wage and other measures. we need national policies to change. i'm going to be here tomorrow working for this new infrastructure in congress can new transportation bill. new york city and cities all over the country need the federal government to address income inequality we can make the progress we need without it. >> even though you think you're doing this for new york new york voters don't think th

we don't have another nafta. any candidate needs to address the issue in their own way. >> i think it's obvious the issues talked about here having huge impact on the people of new york city, and when you think about what's happening in the city, 46% of the people of the city at our near the poverty level, those are according to statistics developed in the bloomberg administration. the ways we address that involve national policy. we are trying to do it with affordable housing, sick leave, and other measures. we need policies to change. i'm here tomorrow working for the new infrastructure bill in congress, a new transportation bill. new york city and cities all over the country need the federal government to address income in income inequality. >> perception, though, that even though you think you do this for new york voters don't think that. >> the fact is this is something that has to happen for our people. none of us should get lost in perceptions. we deal on facts, everyone understand the the federal governme

in an online political ad california congressman alan grayson compared the trade deal to nafta, critics say the agreement signed by president bill clinton in 1993 dramatically widened the u.s. trade imbalance and according to the advocacy group public citizen cost 845,000 u.s. jobs. democrats have also voiced concern over tpp's food safety provisions agriculture market access auto sales protections and measures to prevent currency manipulation. >> those are some of the concerns that people have and the issue of mexico what is the performance in nafta this bill is supposed to improve that. >> the president can guarantee will be included in a tpp agreement if one can be reached are enforceable labor protections that were not included in nafta. >> with democrats increasingly skeptical the president is counting on congressional republicans to collect enough votes to move forward. >> the president needs to step up his game in terms of garnering more support amongst democrats, especially here in the house. >> reporter: if republicans can come up with 200 votes which would probably be at or ne

you point to town after town where factories close after nafta as a consequence of nafta and overpromised and underdelivered and that's why there is suspension and skepticism. they have to get over 200 house republicans and given suspicion of president, immigration and executive power, environment, you know, it's going to be a tough haul for them given their animosity to them. >> i hate to let that one go. i know there is much more to say. quickly to both of you observe jeb bush. tough week, david, he had, when he answered a question about what he would do what his brother did in going into iraq and taking the united states into iraq knowing what we know today. he add first said, yes i would. and then he backed off and gave different answers. what's the impact of all this? >> well, personally a little fraternal loyalty on that. i know he was torn on that. he can be judged harshly. he did not handle this well over the week. the final, most surprising thing to me is the rest of the party seems switched as to whether the iraq war was a mistake. the other candidates came out and said obviousl

in isn't nafta. actually the text of the tpp has the same offshoring promotion provisions that were nafta but bigger and strong per. has the labor standards in bush's trade agreements since 2007. that proved totally ineffective. spot on. there's nothing in the agreement that will make vietnam raise the wages for 60 cents an hour. there are things that will mote the offshoring of american jobs and push down our wages by making us have to compete with the workers making 60 cents an hour. >> charlie, nike is saying that they are making real efforts to improve working conditions. you believe that? >> not at all. not for a second. >> and so how would the united states or any country dictate to them in a trade agreement that the conditions would change? that's basically what the president is saying. this has new language new provisions, new climate standards, new labor standards. how in the world will we go down that road to make sure it's the truth? >> well, it's a sweat shop all other again. it's not goi

and it wasn't that high before nafta came in. you are seeing these democrats say the promises of the somewhat balanced did not happen. and then you are saying that they feel their work job impacts that happened and they are worried about having it this time. if you have democrats that are really concerned about the job side of this bill, they are looking back 20 years and obama is countering this by saying look, this is me. this is not whoever else, this is me now. you know me and i am not that we have learned lessons, but democrats are not sure. host: fast track is part of the debate you will be seen in the senate this week and in the house next month. it really does give the president the authority to in -- to negotiate these international trade agreements that congress can't approve or disapprove but here's the key point, congress cannot amend or filibuster or approve or disapprove in the totality which is one of the arguments being put forward by independent senator bernie sanders from vermont, who is running for president as

the agreement has the investment offshore incentives that might be part of nafta. that chapter leaked. the government accountability office totally flopped. we need that last year. >> mike froman would take serious issue with that. this is way beyond what was in those bush era agreements. >> except that it's impeeriracally not true. the administration authored -- >> neither read the deal. >> as the opening offer for the united states -- >> you haven't read it and i haven't read it. >> the united states trade representative has informed us me personally congress, that they have used may 10 2007 bush environmental and labor standards and they still haven't gotten the countries to agree to it. >> i believe that was the basis -- >> and that was the high line option for what will be there. >> all right, i want to talk about -- >> just in terms of the american worth, that's what we should stay focused on. one of the things that's great about this program is you stay focused on the worker. the argument to consider is if we can get, say, vietnam to be part of these interna

that is nafta on steroids. what problems will that have? generate profits. where will that profit go? pockets on accountability for every day people. he had the courage to raise an issue that was unpopular. but not attending to the structure analysis to the degree he ought to we end up seeing the same thing. our brother is acquainted with how human beings could creatively respond to poverty. in this case white brothers and sisters, right? but a different moment. your family is strong. unbelievable commitment to education. every working class person is not a robert george. you have a lot of cousins. i am sure. >> i think it is true he didn't get the full picture. he was deflected from seeing other factors because so much seemed to be accounted for by reference to race and the history of race relations and oppression. and that say blind as much as it illumeinate illuminates. and he is a good case of that. the nafta an steroids is what i said we need to address when we talk about proper economic issues. we make a mistake thinking if he could solve those everyth

al: but you know what the cynics say, that is what we heard enough to -- in nafta. penny: i think you cannot compare the two. the growth going on in the asia-pacific is something we have got to have access to. and today, we don't. for example, if you want to sell pork in asia, you can take a tariff of up to 100%. chemicals, tariff of 30%. if a foreign company wants to sell and the united often you face a tariff of 1.4%. we are at a real competitive disadvantage, not just with parents but labor standards -- tariffs but labor standards and environmental standards. if we don't contest -- participate in those, our workers will get left behind. al: are you saying this is different? penny: this is different. i will compare it to the past but i want to talk about what is going on today. al: let's talk about physicians people have talked about a lot. one has caused a lot of furor the investors state dispute settlement. elizabeth warren and critics say what this would do is allow multinationals to go to a special court and possibly overturn domestic law. penny: first of all

that wasn't part of nafta. it's going to be part of our current policy today helping our companies helping our workers get there before it's too late. next the congress is going to lay down clear priorities for our trade enforcers priorities that are centered on jobs and economic growth, and there's going to be more accountability and follow-through baked into our enforcement system. in years past, the trade debate in the congress used to come down a simple transaction of trade promotion authority for trade adjustment assistance. what i said in developing this package of bills -- and what more than a dozen protrade democrats said on tuesday and wednesday of this week -- was that the united states senate needed to aim higher. the status quo wasn't good enough. and, in particular, it wasn't good enough in terms of enforcing the laws that are on the books. my guess is in, pennsylvania and everywhere else, particular will he those of us who are protrade and want to tap the global markets, how about enforcing the la

guest: i wish we would renegotiate nafta for the better. i think the administration would say tpp is a renegotiation, but i view it for the worse. host: california, joseph for representative gerald nafta -- jerrold nadler. caller: good morning. it is about crime in america. i have been here 66 years from france after world war ii. it is a problem the government has created and self-inflicted. imports have eliminated all the jobs. we have 100 million people who cannot find work. i heard that on c-span, someone said that. about the guns, we need to get rid of all of them. i have never even held a gun except the old cowboy movies. you need to get -- stop importing. restructure the whole economy and manufacturing base. a job for everybody. get rid of everybody's gone, including the cops. we do not need them with guns. host: guest response, go ahead. guest: you can't nor should you stop all importing. imports are important to the country. exports as well. the problem with the trade agreements we have had is that contrary to the promises made whe

corporation, and that gave it the right to sue the canadian government under a provision of nafta the north american free trade agreement. the amount of the lawsuit a jaw dropping $250 million. >> there's a provision that allows foreign investors to sue governments for adopting policies or regulations that allegedly harm the value of their investments. these so-called investor state disputes don't play out openly in domestic courts. instead, they are arbitrated behind closed doors by a three member panel and that tribunal's decision is final. >> as these redacted dollar physician show, lorne pine does not want the public to know how much the damages its seeking represent out of pocket costs versus lost profits. the firm's lawyer told us these matters are the subject of litigation and ultimately to be established by the tribunal. it's not only nafta that lets multi-national corporations sue governments in closed door pry bunnals. it exists in thousands of investment and trade agreements and the tendency to use it has exploded in recent years. >> the signal that it sends is when a gover

. >> this probably goes back to nafta, when bill clinton promoted nafta. we're going to take labor rights environmental rights and other issues into account when we do this deal. and i think by and large, a lot of the unions and a lot of the, you know, economic critics on the left to that deal, even some on the right remember pat buchanan and ross perot were against it feel like at the end of the day those things are secondary. people like bill de blasio and liz elizabeth warren see they don't see how this helped american workers here. and elizabeth warren adds another ingredient into the mix when she's been talking of how wall street types and republicans want to use these fair trade agreements -- or free trade agreements, i should say, to undermall wall street and other regulations. so she has a lot of skin in this game from very different directions. >> and, jeremy what is elizabeth warren up to here? why did she need bill de blasio to cowrite an op-ed piece. >> well that seemed fairley smart to me. that way she tamps down on a little bit of the specula

you may go on. >> he was profe tick in the case of oop nafta. for trade deals going forward what are the trade offs for the loss of american jobs and increased jobs in people in poverty in other places this the world. can we talk about the trade off for the american standard of oh living versus toes around the world? that's the debate i want to have. again, what kind of protections can we put in place for american workers but especially for toes workers in vietnam and other countries. will we demand those countries enforce a robust regime of workers' rights? we have not done that. >> dorian wants to argue about u.s. jobs and the standard and quality of jobs over seas. zephyr wants a conversation about with a this means in terms of the process and elt of american democracy. we are thinking a little bit here around the questions both of our relationship with china and i have heard you say zephyr, a question of national security as well as these long-term relationships. of course also what it means not only for jobs when we think about manufacturin

we don't need another nafta. any candidate needs to address the issue into own way. >> what are you backing the wealthy over the workers? workers over the wealthy. >> i think it's obvious the issue we're talking about here have a huge impact on the people of new york city. and when you think of what's happening in our city 46% of people in our city that under the poverty level. those are the statistics developed in the bloomberg administration. the ways we address that involve national policy. we can do a lot at the local level and trying to do with affordable housing in increasing paid sick leave and living wage and other measures. i'm going to get to more working for this new infrastructure in congress can new transportation bill. new york city and cities all over the country need the federal government to address income inequality we can make the progress we need without it. >> even do you think you're doing this for the the u.s., new york voters don't think that. >> this is something that has to happen for pe

as first lady, she was in favor of nafta. now she is very vague. she says we have to put safeguards because she does not want to take a stand on such things. she wants to be all things to all people. bill de blasio was hillary clinton's senate campaign manager. far he can go in criticizing her and keep his credibility. on the trade thing, i think elizabeth warren as a theory which is that trade treaties can overcome some domestic laws. there is a little bit of evidence that has happened in some places. bloomberg news is working on a piece to analyze whether that has credibility and how much that charge has. olivia: is about trade and inequality. joe will be on the tour with bill de blasio. his inequality and issue that hillary clinton from the non--- can win on -- is inequality and issue that hillary clinton can win on? as a country where we aspire to go up in income and status, people always want to do that and they do not blame the people who are successful or wealthy. but nonetheless, there's so much out there about income inequality. the figure

host: did you vote for jack -- nafta? guest: no, and i can see the results of nafta. in communities that rely on certain traits collapsed. -- certain trades collapsed. let's be realistic, there comes a time in everyone's life, if you miss that train you cannot get back on. if you're old, a car pension is not there technology, youngsters coming on board. when you miss it in middle-age, you miss it for life. the transition of authority hardly makes up for broken families and broken dreams. host: michigan, don independent, you are talking with congressman charles rangel. caller: thank you for having me on. good morning, mr. rangle. i love that word challenge. i would like to challenge you and your memory. stimulus, shovel ready and $1 trillion, and the percentage used for infrastructure, 3% or 4%? i wanted to mention that you to jog your memory. if you want to do something that helps america -- let's get rid of the federal tax system in place, put something in place that does not have any kind of subsidy and let the private sector and people go ahead and solicit the worl

states afford not to do this deal given the way the world is today versus the way the world was when nafta was negotiating? >> we don't do this we will be letting china set the rules and china's weak labor standards that will become the default. president obama going to nike and saying nike will agree to create over the next decade when it has about a million jobs. so convincing to a lot of people. i think the white house needs to make a slightly stronger case still. >> we're about to find out. still ahead as we continue this morning here is what president obama has to say about it. >> that's why he's not here. he's in washington d.c. as we speak quarterbacking this effort. >> senator ron widen missing out to a visit to his own backyard to win votes for the trade bill back in washington. he takes the time to talk to me about that and why he is prepared to filibuster to stop renewal of the pariot act. that's in just a bit. [announcer]when we make beyond natural dry dog and cat foods. we start with real meat as the first ingredient. we leave out corn,wheat and soy. and we own where our dry f

i think that republicans give president authority it goes through, we see like nafta negative and positive effects come out of this. here is the problem. we don't get to see what is in the deal. you know. neil: what could go wrong? like how health care went. >> right. neil: you argue that republicans, you know -- >> get rid of fast track. i don't care if it is a republican or democrat in charge republic form of government our elected representatives should have a say. neil: do you know how long they drag it out. >> i'm not throwing away the constitution for some expedia european policy. neil: so brad, what happens? you argue as a business guy when all said and done it is good to do business with all? >> yeah it speaks to self confidence of u.s. economy. that we're strong enough we can engage in very open, trade agreements and benefit the american worker. neil: but we're not doing it you are not saying there is anything open. >> well okay like that -- i don't see anything wrong with this agreement. >> who read the agreement? my question is, who knows what is in agreement? and where are amer

>> we learned a lot of lessons from nafta. this is the first trade agreement that has been introduced with an sme chapter. the president and i just traveled to the summit of the americas in panama. those heads of state said that they had entered into 200 trade agreements which the u.s. was not a part of. so they are treating, and this is going to china. if we do not raise our standards environmental and labor standards, then china will win. we need to pass the transpacific partnership today. mark: there was a report last month that cited numbers from the institute of women's policy showing the number of female small business owners is on the rise and minority women are making huge strides. why is this and what are the challenges they still face? >> one of the challenges is they did not know where to go to counseling centers. we now have several centers across the country. they also said that our loans were expensive. we have loans zero down and $150,000. we put on a new program that allows them to go to our website, answer a f

. >> reporter: on trade he's known for nafta. she's skeptical. >> what about the trade deal and whether that will hurt? >> any trade deal has to produce jobs and raise wages and increase prosperity. >> reporter: he signed the defense of marriage act. now both clintons endorse gay marriage. as she moves left, clinton hopes to blunt support for senator elizabeth warren, not a candidate, but a constant critic. as for bernie sanders, he's got his own fan base. >> i mentioned in many european countries how much does it cost to go to college in scandinavia, and the guy said, in scandinavia, they pay you to go to college. [ laughter and applause ] >> reporter: the clinton campaign says that she's breaking away from some of her husband's policies because times change. and speaking of change, nbc news confirms that the obama presidential library will go to chicago, not new york or hawaii, expected to be connected to the university of chicago. the big loser in this competition, columbia university in new york. real estate in manhattan just

banks trading of foreign debt violates nafta and demanded an exemption for canada. president obama has unveiled an executive order restricting the federal provision of military equipment to local police departments. the new measure bars police from receiving weaponized aircraft, grenade launches, and armored vehicles which run on tracked wheels. but departments can still obtain gear like riot shields and tank-like mine-resistant ambush protected vehicles, or mraps, if they give additional justification. speaking in camden, new jersey obama said the rules would rebuild trust. >> today we are releasing new policies on the military still equip and the federal government has and that has provided to state and local law enforcement agencies. we have seen how militarized gear can some towns -- sometimes give people the feeling like there's an occupying forces of post to a force that is part of the community that is protecting and serving them. can alienate and intimidate and senegal's in the wrong message. it is not appropriate for local police departments. amy: authority

he defends nafta in "the washington post," with "lessons from nafta to." it did not shape the -- it shapes the interests of the unite states, and the transpacific partnership can continue. let's go to steve, republican caller. caller: thank you for washington journal. what you are talking about involves regulations and capital gains there are on companies. regardless of nafta, we are not competing. we have higher regulations and high capital gains on our businesses. that needs to bee lowered. also, we need to secure the border. you have illegal immigrants, that is not helping. people do not know this, but there was a. -- there was a period of time when they shut off the border. i'm not recommending that, but we need to do better. a lot of people talking about education. i think that education is a mess. they do not train people for the jobs that are available. they waste too much money on academics that won't help them get a job or help them become a good american. there is a lot to that about being a good american, and being proud of the country. a lot of

net effect on working people of the trade deals that we have made over the last 20 years or so since nafta has been -- cost millions of jobs and to lower the average wage and the average income of a working family by about $1800, even after taking into effect inflation and the cost of consumer goods. the net effect on most working people has been negative. i think it is worth pointing out that in baltimore, where we have this tremendous unemployment everybody agreed, we select people, employers bring in guest workers to do jobs that those people could do. we let employers go to mexico central america to bring in people as landscapers and gardeners and hotel workers. jobs that clearly a person with a high school education can do. the unemployed people in baltimore can do yet, we let them bring people from thousands of miles away to work in his stead of going -- instead of going to baltimore in hiring the unemployed people in baltimore. to me, that is a crazy policy. host: caller: this would be for mr. tanner. i am not poor and i am not black. but when you sprinkle poverty and despair in any

i was just getting out of law school when nafta got passed. [applause] number three, you've got some critics saying that any deal would be rushed through. it is a secret deal. people don't know what is in it. this is not true. any agreement that we finalized with the other 11 countries will have to be posted online at least 60 days before i even sign it. then it would go to congress. and you know they are not going to do anything fast. [laughter] there will be months of review. every t crossed, every i dotted. everyone will see what is in it. there is nothing abstract about this. this is a very deliberate plan. which will be subject to scrutiny and i'm confident when people read the agreement for themselves, they will say this is the most progressive trade deal in history. number four, critics warn this would undermine regulation. even financial regulation. they are making this stuff up. this is just not true. no trade agreement will force us to change our laws. this agreement would make sure our companies are not discriminated against in othe

we have seen with our own eyes the old nafta rules brought shoring. or the obama administration has admitted the labor and environmental standards are now saying new and improved, amazing, are what bush had in his last watcher agreements. and those are standards, as well as not being beloved by a single environmental or labor group i.e., the groups that have a specialty and workers rights and the environment supposed the agreement say the standards aren't sufficient. in addition, the bush dinner tar in the tpp are explicitly -- that are in it tpp are especially reviewed by the government accountability office and found two totally failed to change conditions on the ground in the countries where they are applied. these are things we actually know about the agreement. on the financial issue that senator warren has raised, what we know that is true? in addition to the fact that most of the other tpp countries are complaining about that issue and worried about what it would mean for them, to have his limits on financial regulation in addition, parts of th

was she a voice in nafta being passed? in 1993s pretty busy working on health care reform, but she and her husband have been pretty staunch free traders throughout their lives. she was a supporter then and i think she would probably say that there are some things about it that turned out to not work out as well as she would have hoped, but that in the long run she thinks it is a good thing. that a federal judge ruled clinton state department e-mails on the page basis, she is asking for it to be done quickly. i what point will this be laid to rest? quite that is the question. at one point yesterday they said they would not be seeing those e-mails until january of next year in the federal judge said that instead of releasing them in a bulk package you have to do it on a route -- rolling basis. a different thing from one of the things they were concerned about, which was this private server and the choice about which ones to consider personal. most of the controversy is around the ones that she destroyed. what is in those e-m

instead, nafta has led to the loss of almost 700,000 jobs. in 1999, we were promised that permanent normal trade relations with china would open up the chinese economy to american made goods and services. instead, as everybody who goes shopping knows when you buy product after product made in china, that trade agreement has cost us some 2.7 million american jobs. and i remember hearing all of the accolades about free trade with china they all turned out to be wrong. in 2011, the u.s. chamber of commerce told us that the south korean free trade agreement would create some 280,000 jobs. well wrong again. instead, that agreement has led to the loss of some 75,000 jobs. and the reason for all of this is pretty simple. why would an american corporation invest in this country, pay american workers workers $15, $18, $20 an hour, provide health care, deal with environmental regulations trade unions when they can go abroad, pay people pennies an hour, not have to worry about the environment. that is of course what has happened. these trade agreements

we should not agree to nafta. people driving trucks who do not speaking lips, read english -- speak english, read english. stop when it says to stop. i know -- my son works at chrysler. and when they are in the yards they can't understand a word they are saying and he can't understand them. -- and they can't understand him. guest: i cannot speak directly to the issue of who is in the trade yards -- or who is in the yards and the parking lot at chrysler. i don't know anything about that. the issue of how to create jobs though, and make them so that we are flourishing -- because that is really what you are arguing for, i think -- makes a lot of sense to me. i mentioned before, i am not for massachusetts. i am from sugarman -- suburban chicago. you've got employers that are manufacturing takes -- things that are being sold into foreign markets. if those foreign markets try up, we will not need the workers here. so we need to shift things around and make it so that we are more competitive overseas. and we get more com

we all live in the shadow of nafta. it's as simple as that. we all saw a deal that was supposed to strengthen the economic hand of american workers and undermine workers profoundly. there's honest concern this trade deal could do the same. put aside the very real concerns about information and processing, and go to the substance of the deal. there's tremendous concern, as this plank makes clear. the real empowerment will be more corporations and not american workers. i agree with elizabeth warren. >> reporter: the president is attacking democrats for not supporting him. what do you think? >> we haveyou see more and more energy among progressives to not accept the status quo and to fundamentally change the political debate. >> reporter: i'm wondering why the criminal justice reforms you talked about so much in new york city are not included? >> we've implemented the changes on stop and frisk, marijuana arrests. what we're doing to reduce the jail population, bail reform and a number of other measures. we are going to go back to the coalition li

it is hypocrisy to say clinton signed nafta and ruined the country. look who was a really voting for it in congress. you have your answer. host: johnny in arkansas. you say yes, it is a conflict of interest. why? caller: i think you got the wrong state but it is a conflict of interest. we do not need, he's a washington insider. that is one of the reasons our country is so messed up. right now. it's a shame that they can do this to our country. we do not need any more politicians in washington. my goodness, we need a businessperson to get this country out of debt. we need to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps. host: carol tweets, "there's a difference between being and anger and a political commentator." helen in south dakota. hi. caller: hi, good morning. i don't think he has done anything wrong. he worked for the clintons. this is all about hillary, this was an anti-hillary campaign against her. the gop does not want her to be president and they will do and say everything they can. george has established himself as a credible anger and newsperson. h

i'm protecting the american worker. >> congressman dent i'm curious, nafta has come up so much in the last 22 years or so but when you look back at nafta and the other trade deals over the last generation or so do you see them as a net plus or net negative with the economy for this country? >> first, the united states has 20 trade agreements. we run a net trade surplus for those 20 countries. trade has increased to 1 poen $2$1.2 trillion. when we talk about nafta, let's be clear and honest there has been an enormous amount of investment as a result of that in the united states and a lot of what comes into mexico 40%, is american content. i think we have to be very clear about this. and we have -- when the united states has bilateral trade agreements, we tend to run surpluses. it's where we don't have agreements that there are trade deficits. that is not a small point. these trade greemagreements are trying to knock down foreign products and goods into these countries. that is absolutely essential. >> all right. congressman charlie dent and congress dingell, thank you for joining me. >

host: a lot of comparisons are being made to nafta. were you around for nafta? did impact you? caller: yes sure, it has impacted us. as far as it displacing the people of mexico. it drives people off their land. they want to raise their own families and it forces those hard-working people to come here in search of food. host: we are getting your comments this morning in our last segment. for more on this trade debate, we go to our news desk and greta. >> when people watch this vote go down around 2:30 p.m., people will watch which democrats say yes to move forward on debate. you heard from vicki needham that there are eight democrats on board. they need 10 to join all 50 republicans to get this to move forward. they've got the eight republicans. that includes michael bennet of colorado. senator wyden is telling his colleagues that he is not sure if he is going to vote yes. if he votes no on moving forward, more democrats will be with them. the president and the republicans would not have the votes to move forward. there are some republicans who have said no. richard burr, linds

tom: is nafta successful? katia: that is a huge topic of debate. brendan: what is the natural weight of unemployment? katia: mexico is our largest trade partner. ian: no one there will tell you that mexico has not been successful. tom: we did not transport detroit to monterey? brendan: import of auto parts -- mexico has surpassed germany japan, and canada. kochconsciouskatia: there are questions of the social impact immigration. now what the president is pushing for with the opening of the oil sector, it is supposed to be the best thing since nafta for mexico. olivia: what happens when the fed finally does heighten? ian: what the currencies have been getting at passover in the last few months one thing that will happen more or less today than in the summer -- they will come under pressure again. tom: go back to the single best chart again. in shepherdson, will you was plain how it major country can put up to two decades of currency depreciation? my text says they cannot do that. ian: in an emerging market with a higher inflation rate that we have s

we have the wto, nafta, korea. okay? and we've got other things that we put into place. guess what? over that period of time we have a 10 to $11 trillion trade deficit in goods. $10 to $11 trillion. all people want to focus on are the export side not the negative effects of those trade agreements on the import side where our trading partners cheat. >> have we ever had a trade agreement where he with i have a surplus? >> no. >> not one? >> no. >> and how come no one talks about it? >> because it's not what the folks that benefit by the free trade cool aid talk want to have happen because they benefit by the status quo. and in the meantime here's the facts, jim. since 2000 we had anemic growth rate and gdp of 1.9%. 1.9% since 2000. job creation. all right. everybody is excited about 225,000 jobs. we are 87 to 88 months past the start of the great recession. if you compare to job creation numbers of this recession at this point in time versus the 74 and 1982 and the 1990 recessions, we're ten million jobs behind at this moment in job creation. 10 to 12 million. >> dan, one thing that i