we are taking mexico's problems. mexico is beating us on trade. and they are beating us at the border. but mexico doesn't want these people, so what do they do? they send them to our stupid politicians and we have sanctuary cities and all of this nonsen nonsense. i've been saying this for a long time and it's a disgrace. and frankly if i didn't bring it up you wouldn't even be talking about immigration right now. >> when was the last time you were at the border. >> i've been to the border probably three or four times over the years. and i'm going to arizona this weekend. and some say i'm the most popular person in arizona was a of my stance. >> when was the last time you were there. >> probably three years ago. >> if you haven't been there in three years how do you know it is such a problem? >> it was bad then and it's worse now. it was terrible then. and it's worse now. worse now than it's ever been. we don't even have a border. people are just flowing through like water. there is no border right now. >> the murder rate in el paso texas on the bo

>> mexico. >> how do you get mexico to pay for it? >> mexico is making a fortune off the united states. i would get them to pay for the wall. believe me they will pay for the wall. >> i don't understand how you would. >> the pundits who say trump can't get them. you have to be able to negotiate. mexico is making a fortune off the united states. in addition to seconding a lot of people here forcing forcing, and i'm talking about their bad people. i love the mexican people. i love their spirit. many work for me right now. i respect mexico. but their leaders and their negotiators are too smart for our leaders and our negotiatorsful? how high would the wall be? >> i will make that wall impenetrable. impenetrable. you don't have to worry about how high it will be and mexico will pay for that wall. >> okay. i appreciate it. >> a great honor. >> okay. >> it's funnel when you -- >> well fun. it's too bad that she mentions only the negatives. you don't want to mention the positives. >> put the mic back on. i want to know why you think voters l

>> mexico. >> how do you get mexico to pay for that wall? >> only if i'm president. >> how does that happen? >> because mexico is making a fortune off the united states. i would get them to pay for the wall. believe me they will pay for the wall. >> i don't understand how you would. >> all these pundits that don't have brains i watch all of them saying trump can't get them. i built a great empire through negotiation. you have to be able to negotiate. mexico is making a fortune off the united states a fortune. in addition to sending a lot of people here forcing, forcing, and i'm talking about their bad people. again, i love the mexican people, i love their spirit. many of them work for me right now. i respect mexico. but their leaders and their negotiators are too smart for our leaders and our negotiators. >> how high would the wall be? >> i will make that wall impenetrable. impenetrable. you don't have to worry about how high it will be. and mexico will pay for that wall. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> really appreciate it. >> than

mexico's booming, right? oh, yes, mexico's booming. mexico's booming. we're not booming. you look at our gdp, it's gone. the first quarter we're actually negative in gdp. that means we're contracting. we're getting smaller. willie, the answer is, yes, i would love to do it. i want to make the country great. and willie's father, the great -- you know that, the great william geist, he wrote the first major story in donald trump on the cover of "the new york times" magazine. and i love that family. even though willie sometimes can be a wise guy. >> that's a true story. my dad did write a profile in the 1980s. >> the cover of "the new york times" magazine which was a great honor. he was a great, great writer. >> thank you for saying that. but my question really, are you going to give up this life you have? look at your life. you've got tv shows. you've got buildings. you have the jet. you're donald trump. do you want to go down to the nitty-gritty of politics and live in the white house and work in the oval office? you are willing to give up being donald trump, this great pub

what i said is mexico is sending -- well mexico is sending. they are sending people -- and you know what, they figure why should we keep these people in jail, why should we, why should we keep these people in jail when the american people are led by such stupid leaders that they'll put them in jail, or worse, they won't put them anywhere, like what happened with jamiel and what happened with kate, the magnificent young woman from san francisco. he came back into here five times. he shoud have been in a mexican jail. he shouldn't have even been in the country. he should have been in a jail from mexico. but mexico figures why should we take care of him for the next 40 years. let's let the dumb people in the united states with their really dumb leaders take care of all of our problems. [ applause ] >> and i saw protests, a couple of tiny protests and i heard there is going to be -- you go there and there were a few people. there were more people in favor of trump. people are holding up 2016 signs. and i'm saying, they like me. it is all nonsense.

. >>> hi this morning from mexico city. mexico city is the epicenter right now of a massive search in our top story on "the rundown," the search for one of the most notorious and dangerous drug traffickers in history. this country is indeed ground zero in this massive nrtd national search for joaquin el chapo guzman. he pulled off a daring escape from a maximum security prison about 35 miles southwest of the mexican capital saturday night raising a lot of questions about how something like this could happen not once but for a second time. let's get the latest now from mark potter near the prison where el chapo escaped. mark, what an incredible escape story this is. >> absolutely. almost like a movie, jose. behind me is the maximum security prison you were talking about. this is the one where chappo guzman escaped over the weekend in a mile-long tunnel a sophisticated tunnel. it actually ran parallel to this wall on the other side of the prison. to a house, that's where the tunnel began. they tunnelled in. this is a major em

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i'm going back here to mexico. authorities have released brand new video showing the famous drug lord "el chapo" guzman making his break from a supermax prison last week. you see him crouching behind a partition in the shower area out of the camera's view. he goes in there and never comes back out. behind that partition a hole that leads to an underground tunnel authorities say he used to escape. nbc's mark potter got a firsthand look inside this cell. >> the thing that's so impressive here is how sophisticated this is, how well built. you can see the beams, these are steel. there are wood beams. there is electricity. there's a lynch, there are lights and there's a stairway that goes down here to a very deep trench and a tunnel that then heads out toward the prison. >> mark potter joins me live from the prison where "el chapo" escaped from. mark, good morning. what was it like inside that place? >> reporter: well we got into the entrance of the tunnel -- we went through a hole that was about a foot and a half by tw

some from california and new mexico. after they heard rush limbaugh talk about the event on his national radio show. you know most of the people there, though, were from the arizona area. a deep red border state where immigration issues are often incredibly heated. some people are really getting traction with trump who are fed up with the immigration system. >> what do you think about his comments on latinos? a lot of people -- >> he tells the truth. he didn't say anything wrong. i'm surprised very much some people are upset with him pause he told the truth. >> this guy's an idiot. you know trying to divide people instead of uniting the people. >> reporter: dozens of protesters gathered outside the event yesterday, rallying extension away from other participants waiting to get inside. at times the dynamic was rather heated, showing what a lightning rod the immigration issue is now, and will probably continue to be on into 2016. in fact, some of the protesters even made it inside of the event, embedding themselves within

i want to take you back here now to mexico. there are a couple new developments this morning in an all-out manhunt for notorious drug trafficker joaquin el"el chapo" guzman after he escaped from a maximum security prison on saturday evening. mexican officials have released his most recent mugshot, taken in 2014. they're also offering a $3.8 million reward for information that leads to his capture. in the wake of the escape three prison officials have lost their jobs. nbc's mark potter has more from outside the prison where el chapo escaped. what's the latest situation on that? >> well good morning, jose. the mexican interior minister is saying now what many people were saying right away was obvious to them, that choppo guzman had help inside this prison when he escaped by using that tunnel. the prison director and the national prison director have now been fired, and investigators are also talking to 30 more than 30 prison employees as they're trying to piece together what happened here. officials here and in the u.s. and other

every time mexico really intelligently sends people over we charge mexico $100,000 for every person they send over. [ cheers and applause ] >> it seems that far from toning it down as the rnt chair previously suggested, trump is going on all in when it comes to the issue of immigration, even using el chap"el chapo"'s" escape last night to make his point, saying we make immigration our top issue. is he the one driving immigration in the national debate? >> i think immigration will be a big issue in the republican field. we've seen republicans take on different issues on immigration, which is really a hot button in the presidential contest. but i think what donald trump has done is make this conversation happen a lot faster and a lot more furious than we were ever anticipating. certainly the tone he's brought to the debate is different than other republicans who really want to tighten down and have more immigration control who don't support comprehensive immigration reform. and of course many republicans wish this wasn't the conversation they were having. it's worth noting after their loss

every time mexico really intelligently sends people over we charge mexico $100,000 for every person they send over. the silent majority is back. and we're going to take the country back. and we are going to make america great again. >> we will be hearing more from donald trump in the coming days. clarifying rules require all the candidates financial disclosure forms to be turned in. in an interview with the washington post trump says he will file the necessary forms details his wealth quote, this week. >>> hillary clinton will give her first speech in new york city. she will reportedly call for a higher federal minimum wage and tax hikes on the wealthiest americans. one campaign aide told "the new york times," clinton believes reducing income equality is quote, the defining economic challenge of our time as democratic challenger bernie sanders continues to attempt to draw distinctions between himself and the front-runner when it comes to the economy. >> i like hillary clinton and i respect hillary clinton. and i'm not going to engage in personal attacks against hillary clinton, but there

thanks. >>> every time mexico really intelligently sends people over we charge mexico $100,000 for every person they send over. >> can't stop won't stop. donald trump hammering away with more controversial immigration comments. this weekend in arizona. plus mexico's volcano of fire spewing massive plumes of ash causing vacevacuations and panic. >>> what caused thisser the fiing explosion on a rhode island beach? we have latest on the investigation and the condition of the woman injured in that mysterious blast. first, today's binlg pulse question for you today is about iran and the potential for a deal bep want you to weigh in. is any deal better than no deal? head to pulse.msnbc.com. let us know what you think. my colleague francis rivera will have an update on your votes coming up later in the hour.rence: that little blue thingy. you see it? that's a sensor. using ge software, the light can react to its environment- getting brighter only when it's needed. in a night it saves a little energy. but, in a year it saves a lot. and the other street? it's been burning energy all night. for fr

for mexico. anybody have any questions? >> relationship with hispanics -- >> i think we'll win the hispanic vote. i have thousands of mexicans and hispanics. i don't know if you saw the poll but they just did a big poll in nevada the state of nevada. and i'm way ahead. and more importantly as far as i'm concerned, i'm way, way ahead with the hispanics. well into the 30s. i think second is like 11. so i have a great relationship. over the years, thousands and thousands of hispanics have worked for me and now work for me. and the relationship is very good. question. [ multiple speakers ] how many people killed? >> seven people. in chattanooga, five people were killed in less than hour. that's american city. it means that killers come from all over the world. >> i agree with that. and they come through here. but they come from all over the world. i agree with that. >> you keep saying that there's a danger, but the crime along the border is down? what danger -- >> there's great danger with the illega

mexico. he accused the government of dumping people here they don't want in their country into our country. let's watch. >> don't try and convince me that there's no crime, that it's wonderful. the people that are being forced in and these aren't just mexican people the people that are being forced -- mexico doesn't want people. they're forcing them into our country, and we're taking them and we're putting them in our jails and our hospitals and we're paying them money through different sources. it's a disgrace. don't tell me about safety. are you trying to justify safety on the border? i don't think so. >> governor he was derogatory towards this interview. he had that sneer on his face like you're stupid. he was like using her as a tackling dummy for what he didn't like. >> this is a train wreck and donald trump is the engineer. putting the thing up to 150 miles an hour around an 80-mile-an-hour track. as long as he's in the race, nobody else will get a word in edgewise. how can you not cove

every time mexico really intelligently sends people over we charge mexico $100,000 for every person they send over. >> i was in rural virginia over the weekend. the few people came up to me and said donald trump is really speaking to me what i like to hear. how long can the party though survive nationally if donald trump continues to suck up all of this oxygen? >> luke, i've heard that too, from people. that donald trump has hit a nerve and isn't it good that he's out there? my answer to that is that it is important that we discuss border security and controlling the border, but to demonize people like he did with the mexicans who are here and to go and say that the mexican government is intentionally sending people here doesn't make sense. he is a promoter he is a celebrity figure. you can't worry about what others do. you just focus on your ideas and your record and your vision and that's what i i ten to do. >> you spoke up earlier. should some of the other candidates speak up early against donald trump and to the party? pre- should there be a ground swell, we can't have this really go

many come from mexico. they love me. i love them. i'll tell you something, if i get the nomination i'll win the latino vote. i may be devicive on immigration, but hillary clinton is weak on immigration. that's far worse. hillary would let everybody come in. killers, criminals, drug dealers. everyone will be flowing through the nation. i'll make that wall inpenetratable. mexico will pay for that wall. >> this was in response to a question about a "washington post" article. the trump campaign reissued a statement about the report following the interview that reads in part quote our contractors are required to have prospective employee. yesterday some of opponents reacted. >> hey donald. i saw your tweet the other day. think you may need to borrow my glasses to look at the steps i took to secure the border while governor of texas. i can't support what you said. no one knows the concerns americans border better than i do. >> the first rule of politics when in a hole is stop digging. then somebody needs to take the shovel out of donald tr

at the same time mexico's interior minister said the mexico government has assessmented help from the u.s. to help recapture him. joining me a man who assisted in tracking el chapo and his network. arturo, good to see you. >> yes, good morning. good morning, jose. >> arturo this escape seems like from a movie you couldn't even invent. what are the repercussions of the escape of this guy in mexico and quite possibly throughout the world? >> well he is a national security risk for mexico and also he has an impact on the u.s. here's someone that's you know multibillionaire he's someone that the wars in juarez the wars in tamalipas, the spillover of violence he's someone we really have to pay attention to. he's someone that he has followers in so many different states. and recently he lost other states. but he is someone to look at. he's someone that has an impact in so many states and in the u.s. >> you know you spent a lot of your 28 1/2-year career as an fbi agent working on drug trafficking and tracking el chapo. let me show you this map showing the control of the cartel sinaloa acros

, that do trade with mexico on a daily basis? >> according to statewide leaders, the view from austin, it's still a major issue and they've been framing it certainly in terms of public safety like you heard trump in less articulate terms framing it. they've been framing it in terms of public safety. our governor just last month in june signed a sweeping border security deal that putting with more manpower in this region beefing up the presence on the border. it's a conversation that's going on. >> thanks for being with me. appreciate it. >>> we are continuing to cover this story for you from laredo. but now to new developments in the fight against isis. fbi director james comey is now calling isis a bigger threat than al qaeda. >> what keeps me up at night is the isil threat in the homeland and i worry very much about what i can't see. isil is not your parents' al qaeda. it's a very different model. by virtue of that model, it's currently the threat we're worrying about in the homeland most of all. >> let me bring in our msnbc te

turns into mexico. the city has a population of about a quarter million with nearly everyone classifying themselves as either hispanic or latino. it was the border patrol council that invited mr. trump to visit today. but it has since disassociated itself from the event. joining me on the phone from laredo laredo, casey hunt. welcome to you. take us through the day's events. what is trump seeing and with whom will he be meeting if not these union leaders? >> reporter: well, we are currently right about on the border with mexico. trump's motorcade is en route from the airport where he just landed in his plane em blazened with the trump logo. at this point, he's going to come and take an actual tour. there are law enforcement officials escorting him. he'll be meeting with some local officials. obviously not with those union members. the tour is proceeding as planned. you heard him capitalizing on that. you know acknowledging it was potentially dangerous for him to be down here. he was met by a few protest

with regard to el chapo, the one who escaped prison via a tunnel trump tweeted, mexico's biggest drug lord escapes from jail and the u.s. is paying the price. i told you so. one thing everyone can agree, he's a highly dangerous criminal and once again, he's on the loose. that's ahead. but you better get here fast... yay, daddy's here! here you go, honey. thank you. ...because a good thing like this won't last forever. see your authorized dealer for an incredible offer on the exhilarating c300 sport sedan. but hurry, offers end soon. share your summer moments in your mercedes-benz with us. >>> a little more than two weeks after the u.s. supreme court heard marriage equality the law of the land, we're seeing more steps on the march towards progress. the pentagon is putting the finishing touches on a plan to allow transgender people to seven. ash carter acknowledged the similar don't ask, don't tell policy, there are already plenty of transgender people serving. he said we have transgender soldiers and marines being hurt by an inconsistent approach. and the boy scouts of america moved to

we are taking mexico's problems. mexico is beating us on trade and at the border. but mexico doesn't want to take those people so what do they do? they send them to our stupid politicians and we have sanctuary cities and all of this nonsense. i've been saying this for a long time katie, and it is a disgrace. and if i didn't bring it up, you wouldn't be talking about immigration right now. >> when was the last time you've been to the bodder. >> three or four times throughout the years and i have people that live in the area and i'm going to aerz this weekend where they want to talk to me because arizona -- i'm the most popular person in arizona because of my stance. >> when was the last time you were there? >> probably three years ago. >> so if you haven't been there in three years, how do you know that it is such -- >> because i knew it was bad then and it is worse now. it was terrible then and it is worse now. worse now than it has ever been. we don't have a border. people are flowing through like water. there is no border right now. >> the murder race in el paso,

we need somebody to make deals with china, japan, mexico. we need someone that understands and cherishes the military. i think i'll be the jobs president. i think i'll be even better in terms of the military. i will create military when nobody is going to mess around with the united states. >> there you have it. you can watch katie's full interview on nbc news.com. >>> nfl star reportedly had his finger amputated wednesday after a fireworks mishap. he has been in a south florida hospital since saturday night. reports say his other fingers are damaged. giants officials flew to miami to visit him but were turned away. according to a source jpp is expected to play this season although he's technically not under contract with the giants. jpp was holding out for a long term agreement and had not signed signed the $8.4 million tender. >>> good morning betty. stocks to set back from wednesday's losses. asian markets rebounding as china seems to gain confidence and beijing rescues the struggling stock market. investors will look at fresh unemploymen

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mexico is -- the united states is becoming the dumping ground for mexico and other countries. so it's something that as you has been causing a lot of reaction by even other gop candidates including the former governor of this state. but here he is and here we are and here now the issue of immigration is on the forefront of a lot of people's minds because of what trump is saying. >> now, in texas it has been a much less polarizing issue. going all of the way back to george w. bush when he was governor, then let's say arizona where trump got that enormous crowd in phoenix and where he is trying to do his best to divide the republican party and go up against john mccain. in texas there's a much more simulated population. >> that's a great way of putting it andrea. indeed it's a much more simulated population. we are just a couple hundred yards from the mexican border. one of the most beautiful industrial cities of northern mexico is near where we are. there is so much trade communication, family visits between folks that live in the monterrey area in this part of mexico and lared

now mexico is saying, we weren't informed about this. where does this truth lie? are we supposed to believe that mexico is not informed about what the dea tried to tip them off to? >> well, whenever we receive information in mexico you know we pass that on to the mexican government. i think that this was no exception. however, i do have to say that the information was general. so, you know there was no specific information alluding to a tunnel. so they probably looked at it you know, figured it's too general and probably just discarded it. >> so guzman we know has been indicted in p six different states. chicago's crime commission formally renamed him the city's public enemy number one because of heroin inports in their city and spoke about this at a news conference last hour. take a listen. >> we need to have the concerted effort of both the mexican government and the u.s. government in recapturing mr. guzman before he's able to dig himself into a worm hole somewhere never to be found again. >> so do you think that he could be found again? obviously, mike, we tal

meaning there are just as many people emigrating to mexicos there are mexicans coming from mexico. according to government accountability office border security in the southwest is about 84% effective. that's not perfect but that is a "b" average. the cost to seal the south border is an estimated $28 billion, the annual budget of the entire justice department. the last time the amount of money we've been spending was $18 billion a year. so, we have to find another way if we want to do even more money on that front. there's a lot to say in the immigration story. in fact, i spoke with two strong voices on either side of the immigration debate. congress castro, and raul labrador from idaho. define the scope of what you think -- do we have an illegal immigration problem in this country right now? >> we do have an illegal immigration problem in the country but we also have a legal immigration problem because we're dealing with legal immigration system from the 1950s. we have to update and modernize the immigration system. we have a problem at the border where we don't know who's coming

/mexico border is safer than the average american city. that last year we had 480,000 apprehensions. 480,000 last year compared to 1.6 million 15 years ago. the border has never been safer than it is today. we've never spent more money. we've never had more border patrol. el paso, the largest city on the border has never been safer. any fact that mr. trump would look at would contradict the narrative he's telling. what he's saying resonates with fears people have about the border, about mexico about mexican-americans. which is unfortunate. but i think this is an issue where given enough rope he's going to do far more damage to himself, to the party and to that whole narrative than i could ever change by the facts i'm sharing with you. i think this is one where we're happy to allow this to play out and for mr. trump to continue to talk and stand at the top of the field for the republicans in their primary challenge. >> final question here. he started with this comment in his announcement how mexico is sending criminals and rapists. there wa

. >> it says mexico is sengd, the government of mexico is sending. i said mexico is sending. it doesn't say what you said. >> i'm asking if you can help me out here and answer the question. do you believe that mexican immigrants are rapists and murderers? >> illegal immigrants are causing tremendous problems coming in. i want legal immigrants illegal immigrants are causing tremendous problems mika. there is crime. it's a crime wave. it's a disaster. do i believe many people -- i mean, look as far as i'm concerned, i hire i have hundreds and hundreds of mexicans working for me. i love mexican people. i love their spirit. the problem we're having with mexico is that their government officials and negotiators are far smarter than ours. like from a different planet. and they are negotiating deals, trade deals, the border everything else. we are getting the shortened of the stick in every single instance. and we're having a big problem. let me just tell you just to finish mexico is sending a lot of their people over that they don't want. and that includes people that should be in

nbc's mark potter has more from mexico. >> reporter: hi, luke. the tunnel that authorities say that chapo guzman used to escape from the prison behind me extends out all the way to a house a mile from here. we got a chance to go in that tunnel last night and it was quite impressive. we were really struck by how well it was put together. this was clearly done by engineers, mining engineers, people who knew what they were doing and who had the money, the wherewithal and the time to do it. this was not a fly-by-night operation. again, a mile long. and it afforded guzman the opportunity to not have to walk out of prison. he got to ride out of jail. this video released by the mexican government shows "chapo" guzman on a security camera in his cell on saturday the night he escaped, just before 9:00 p.m. he can be seen pacing going in and out of the shower stall where the tunnel entrance is. finally he bends down goes out of the camera's view and disappears. tuesday mexican authorities recorded video of the tunnel entrance and then went into the tunnel

that's $215 million for 87 day ss oil gushed into the gulf of mexico. the coast of mexico got amazing footage. a mantaray swims up and opens fins for a hug. it's common for raies to get up for for rays to get up close and personal. >>> in wisconsin yesterday, president obama promoted the plan to increase overtime pay for million of americans. the president poked fun at ever growing field of republicans running for presidency. he compared it to a popular book and movie franchise. >> we've got healthy competition in the democratic party. i've lost count how many republicans are running for this job. they'll have enough for an actual "hunger games." >> could you imagine if it was really like that, if it was like "hunger games"? that may make it more interesting. good morning to you. >> happy friday and happy early fourth. >> that's right. holiday weekend is upon us. let's talk politics before we get there. there's speculation biden will jump into the race. how would that change the game? >> i think this would shake up the race and give former secretary of

that's what we see in mexico, especially where i was filming. and the suffering of everyday people, living in this lawless world. the very institutions that we take for granted, the very institutions there to protect the people either aren't there or they're in collusion with the cartel. and that's where this movement was borne out of. the citizens rose up to fight back. they rose up to bring basic safety and security to their communities. >> but in many cases, that's the exception. i can imagine there's such on existence of fear that many people in mexico are living under, knowing if they speak up especially now with el chapo out there, knowing that he's their robin hood that he's paying them off, he's the reason why they're alive, why they exist. the moment you break away from that, that could mean loss of not just finances but the loss of your life too. >> that's why this story is so amazing. the idea of everyday citizens peasants farmers, storekeepers in the case of our main character, a small-town doctor rising up to fight back against the

this guy that killed a wonderful young woman from san francisco, he went back to mexico. they forced him out. they forced people into our country. and they are drug dealers and

every time mexico really intelligently sends people over we charge mexico $100,000 for every person they send over. the silent majority is back and we're going to take the country back. [ applause ] and we are going to make america great again! >> al hunt you could see over this week and the course of this weekend columns on the right from jonah goldberg kevin williamson with the national review, george will of course. a rising sense of indignation that this former democrat this contributor to hillary clinton, this single payer health care supporting pop supporting populist is seeming to get a large chunk of the republican base. what's your take on what's going on out there? >> this is george wallace 40 years later, joe. i think the interesting thing about trump is that his floor and ceiling in the republican race, they're almost right next to each other. he's not going to get much higher. i talked to several republicans over the weekend. what scares them half to death, harold eluded to it earlier, he just -- his ego might just cause him to run as an independent. i doubt that will happen

his escape is a huge embarrassment for mexico who refused to extradite guzman to the united states. and insisted he could not escape again. guzman's cartel is estimated to control at least 25% of the illegal drugs entering the u.s. it is known for bribery, and horrific, horrific violence. guzman pioneered the use of tunnels to smuggle drugs across the border and relied on tunnels to evade capture. including one hidden under a bathtub. an intense search is now under way with stepped up security at airports and border crossings. and masked commandos halting vehicles on nearby roadways. these photos released by one of guzman's sons, purport to show guzman after his escape saturday night. nbc news could not confirm they are indeed guzman. a former dea official tells ss nbc news, they do appear to show el chapo, they find it difficult to believe his son would give any clues to his whereabouts. joining me now, julio, the first thought, i think, everyone if anyone read about that first prison break i cannot believe this happened again and maybe the second thought is of course it happened a

based on his really negative stereo tip characterization of people that come across the border from mexico calling them rapists and variety of different names. this coming from somebody who is connected to the casino business. i think that maybe he has experience with unsavoringerory characters. >> it might strengthen voter's resolve to put him on that. polls show him basically benefits from all of this. >> well number one, he has big name recognition. at this point he would show higher in the polls. number two, there's a lot of people many the republican party who probably agree with what he's been saying about the immigrants that come from mexico. number three, a lot of people just consider all politicians bafoons so he would fit in. >> you had to go there. here's the thing. seems democrats are cheering for trump because he might be their best weapon. >> there's a piece in the new york time about this this morning. the republican party is trying to get over the problem it has with latinos because of the hard fuse on immigrants. here donald trump is making sure nobody ever forgets that. >

mexico border donald trump is giving rivals one more thing to think about. the 2016 hopeful shared his backup plan in case he doesn't win the nomination. it could mean bad news for gop. tracey pots is live. could we see more of the donald if he loses the primary? >>> we could. he's saying the leadership isn't being too good to him and he might run as independent if he doesn't get the nomination. meantime he's out campaigning. the issue today is immigration. donald trump, at the u.s.-mexico border, not calling immigrants rapist or murderers. >> we have tremendous danger on the border. >> the union that invited trump vowed out. protestors showed up. >> how can he disenfranchise over 50% of the population. >> the donald trump act cleared the house prohikting federal funds to sanctuary cities that protect immigrant suspects from deportation. >> they are providing a sanctuary for their own law biding citizens. >> hillary clinton tells supporters we need more. >> we are not going to deport 11 or 12 million people. we are not going to do it. the best answer for tha

the president of mexico said that that was not possible. that that would be a national embarrassment. guess what. it's a national embarrassment. more than that. it's an embarrassment focused on the officials here. the corruption. the impunity that exists in this country permits someone like el chapo g zman supposed to be on 23-a day lockdown and 1 hour of supervised monitoring so he can get some sun, that that guy was able to escape through a tunnel in his personal shower while being 24 hours a damon or theed tel tells you that he got help from officials and people feel just like how can this be? well, they know how it can be. because of corruption impunity and because here those drug cartels control hundreds of millions of dollars of cash and they're very willing to use it. >> yeah. tough and discouraging scene there. thank you for your reporting. see you on the run down tomorrow morning. >>> straight ahead the feds say they have foiled another isis-inspired attack. this one hitting especially close to home for people in boston. unbelievab

i represent mexico. greatly as a country. but the problem we have is that their leaders are smarter, sharper and more cunning than our leaders and they're killing us at the border and they're killing us in trade. >> more than 4,000 people turned out to hear trurp, that's more than twice the capacity of the room where he was speaking. there were protesterers on hand when they tried to interrupt him, trump had a response ready. >> i wonder if the mexican government sent them over here. i think so. >> trump spoke for more than an hour. it was unscripted. it was raw. he delighted in attacking his enemies head-on like jeb bush. >> the poll just came out and i'm tied with jeb bush and i said that's too bad. how can i be tied with this guy? he's terrible. i don't see him as a factor and i know it's the youth name so in all fairness not the greatest, but jeb bush i don't get it. if you people go with bush you're going to lose. >> he also attacked hillary clinton. >> if i'm winning in these categories why go through primaries? hillary

many come from mexico. they love me. i love them. if i get the nomination, i'll win the latino vote. hillary is weak on immigration. i may be divisive on immigration, but she is weak on immigration which is far worse. hillary would let everybody come in killers, criminals, drug dealers, everybody. if you listen to hillary, everybody is going to be flow through the nation. i'll make that wall inpenetratable, okay? you don't have to worry about how high it will be. and mexico will pay for that wall. >> joining us now, "washington post" reporter robert costa who wrote the story about that conversation between priebus and trump. good to see you this morning. let's talk about the relationship that donald trump has with the rest of the field, the relationship he has with the republican party. what do you suspect he told him in that conversation and how do you think trump responded? >> i spoke with several people briefed on the conversation. it was pretty candid. prybus made outreach to hispanic voters and calming down the primary, the cent

but donald trump staying strong on his opinion about those who come from mexico. he has a double digit play in this new quinnipiac university poll. >> there is clearly some interest in his candidacy, even though large chunks say they would never consider voting for him. part of what's going on here is bad news for trump isn't always bad news in the republican primary. one of the surefire ways to get a short-term bump is to tackle with the media. and right now there is a sense that trump is putting forth the sense that he's being persecuted he's at war with his idealogical opponents for telling it like it is. remember newt gingrich everybody thought he was in serious trouble after one of his ex-wives gave a scathing interview about their divorce, and then he ended up riding to his peak in 2012 presidential primaries after he lashed out at cnn and the media on this topic. sometimes you can ride out that backlash. i think that's what trump is getting to here. >> sitting down with nbc's matt lauer before and after his announcement is chris christie. let's listen to th