by the way, biden may not be in the race. if it's hillary against bernie sanders, is he probably going to endorse hillary. if it's hillary against biden, i don't think obama is going to make an endorsement. >> let's not forget, ernst also came out yesterday and said the best thing barack obama ever did politically was to nominate joe biden as vice president. >> they there is all kinds of stuff coming out. you know how this works, matt. >> there is leaks coming out. nobody had to know about the biden/obama meeting. it's a private meeting. they see each other all the time. this was leaked out bill, the biden folks can leak that out. you talk about biden met with elizabeth warren. hillary met with elizabeth warren. bernie sanders met with elizabeth warren. the biden folks are clearly leaking out some of this information. >> yeah. but you are saying he might not run and i'm saying is he going to run because they wouldn't be leaking it out if he wasn't. >> i think what it's going to come down to bill and i'm sure you are going to

by the way, biden may not be in the race. if it's hillary against bernie sanders, is he probably going to endorse hillary. if it's hillary against biden, i don't think obama is going to make an endorsement. >> let's not forget, ernst also came out yesterday and said the best thing barack obama ever did politically was to nominate joe biden as vice president. >> they there is all kinds of stuff coming out. you know how this works, matt. >> there is leaks coming out. nobody had to know about the biden/obama meeting. it's a private meeting. they see each other all the time. this was leaked out bill, the biden folks can leak that out. you talk about biden met with elizabeth warren. hillary met with elizabeth warren. bernie sanders met with elizabeth warren. the biden folks are clearly leaking out some of this information. >> yeah. but you are saying he might not run and i'm saying is he going to run because they wouldn't be leaking it out if he wasn't. >> i think what it's going to come down to bill and i'm sure you are going to

john: issue one -- barack back biden? >> the vice president is somebody who has already run for president twice. hes been on a national ticket through two election cycles now. both in 2008 and in the re-election of 2012. so i think you could make the case that there is probably no one in american politics today who has a better understanding of exactly what is required to mount a successful national presidential campaign. john: thats white house press secretary josh earnest seemingly endorsing a joe biden presidential candidacy. re-affirming president obamas belief that selecting joe biden as vice president was his best political decision, mr. earnest also appeared to offer an implicit rebuke of hillary clinton. after all, mrs. clinton also served in president obamas cabinet as secretary of state between 2009 and 2013. and get this. mr. earnest suggested mr. obama might endorse joe biden if he enters the 2016 presidential race. with hillary clinton struggling in the polls and allegations that she mishandled classified mat

joe biden, yes. other gentlemen i would vote for, if he is the only one running against her in the democratic party, i would vote for. never hillary. host: thank you for the call from georgia. "the wall street journal" also writing about bernie sanders saying the life inside the bewildering. is a self-described democratic socialist, often observed eating alone in the cafeteria, these , he began attracting to produce. rally in covered his south carolina as part of our road to the white house coverage. your comments on our facebook page on joe biden, here are a couple of thoughts. joe biden i think would make an excellent secretary of state. don't run, iplease beg you not to, you are only going to hurt the two viable candidates already in the field. rants has this tweet, biden is part of the establishment. we desperately need more change .- bernie sanders for potus next is jim from delaware. caller: good morning, how are you today? it is a beautiful day in delaware. i am a republican, so that means i i

that joe biden is looking at a new look at a run. mr. biden's advisers have started to reach out to democratic leaders and donors who have not yet committed to mrs. clinton. this is important, alex. one possible factor biden's late son beau who passed away in may from brain cancer at age 46 he was reportedly urging his father to run before he passed away. the vice president's press secretary, i spoke to her yesterday, she's playing down all this speculation. a lot of the phone calls she said are from friends and associates checking on biden to see how he's doing. she tells me quote, as the biden family continues to go through this difficult time the vice president is focused on his family and immersed in his work. just a little bit of a reality check, though, alex while we're talking about all of this. some of biden's key aides have started to work with help secretary clinton on her campaign. clinton has a lot of support from a lot of democrats. she's a very strong candidate right now. democratic sources say the reality is biden would li

joe biden is very much a brand. unlike donald trump, joe biden brings a 45 year public service record. becomes comes from a working-class background. he's never sort of lost that edge. they understand what working-class families go through. it will be good for the democratic party. al: you just compared him to donald trump. how about two hillary clinton. does he identify more with the working-class voters and have more authenticity and secretary clinton? steve: to me. i think joe biden comes from a working-class background and in his entire career at the senate he was a stay-at-home dad. he has never lost those values. he is a guy who can talk about what our party has been struggling with. al: what about money? lot of people think he would have a difficult time raising money. steve: these primary cases are all about momentum. do i think joe biden can put together a competent team and compete in every state? absolutely. if joe biden can compete in the early states and pick up the early wins, can he compete in the lat

it's more about a decision nor joe biden or hillary clinton than against them. >> we're aware biden met with -- secretly with elizabeth warren. she's a liberal favorite. so is bernie sanders. you would think that would be a natural support base for him than joe biden. where does joe biden carve out a space of his own in this race? how does he differentiate himself? >> that's going to be one of the big challenges that he and his team will figure out. he is the most clear continuation of the obama legacy and agenda. he has a long record of his own. what he is going to have do is make the case for why he is the better standard bearer for democrats in the fall and what kind of president he would be. figuring that out is challenging. it's smart to talk to elizabeth warren. she's one of the power brokers with real influence who have not back a candidate. take her temperature. see what she's thinking. he is having other meetings with important people. he is going through what i think is a rigorous and smart process to come to a decision about whether this is doable and whether it's the right t

an advisor to beau biden son is joining the draft biden movement as a fundraiser. you wrote a piece about what all this means. so tell us, if biden gets in what does it all mean, particularly for hillary clinton? john: if he gets in, it will be bad news for hillary clinton. i'm told the odds are less than 50-50 that he will get in. although the way that these leaks came out was designed to send a message that he was looking at it. it will be bad for hillary clinton. starting at the very top, it's bad for hillary clinton in terms of the media dynamic. that is the top line from my piece. hillary is already getting that coverage. mark: biden will make the debate stage more crowded and take some of the steam out of bernie sanders. it will make the debate friendlier for him. counter to your peace and conventional wisdom, i think a joe biden run helps her. john: she's at her best when she was fighting, she was at her best in 2008. but i think the vote map, bernie sanders could and probably would not beat her. in a three-way race, whereby men clinton are competing for the

i would love to see joe biden run. i have always liked joe biden. i find him to be a very genuine politician, as genuine as they can be in politics anyway. primarily i want to see joe biden run for the same reason i'd like to see elizabeth warren run. we need more diversity of voices because the democratic party isn't just one idea, and it offends me that this second time hillary has run there's been this air of coronation of her being the first woman president of the united states. and i'm not saying we don't need a woman president of the united states, but we've got a lot of very capable female political leaders who just need to step up and stop trying -- it's a competition. it's not a coronation. make your case, be a grown-up, stop trying to be polite about this. this is the future of our nation. so yes, joe biden, run. put your ideas out there. bernie sanders, run. put your ideas out there. elizabeth warren, run. put your ideas out there. nancy pelosi for freaking sake -- i'm sorry, for heaven's sake. run, put your ideas out there. >> dee, let m

bide -- biden considering a run. he's going to have a conference and likely to come up and support what the president has done on that. >> biden is pretty impressive, i'd rather say. so you get the detail which has to come from either the vice president himself or someone very, very close to biden family. we get the account of the biden meeting on saturday. only two people in that meeting. we get a sense that they were having an interesting talk about whether she needs -- he should run. thenni you have with president obama yesterday. we give the sense that president obama gave blessing in away. i mean, the moment i saw -- i thought he was going to run. i do think he wants to run. he's run before. i think he will run and it shows how much, you know, no, hillary clinton, that's not thnte case anymore. it's a real race. the question is if biden gets in, wait six weeks or october. the first democratic debate is october 13, so he'll get in before that. it makes me wonder whether he will get in sooner, labor day. biden has

biden is a political realist. he'd love to be president. there's a lot of democrats that will be seen to be president from someone that has got a lot of grassroots. >> we have heard how top democrats are nervous. every poll on distrust worthiness seems to indicate how right to worry, except the most important ones. >> not only that, her popularity within the party, 60% of democrats like her, and seven in 10 have a positive opinion of her right there. the polls you are talking about are true. if biden were to run, we'd be looking at south carolina, they won't win in new hampshire, and probably he is too lates in the ground. >> polls in ohio and new hampshire are a significant place. if he jumps in, that could change dramatically. >> it wouldn't change dramatically in iowa. one thing that hillary clinton has that neither bernie sanders or republicans can do is talk to hispanic or black voters, one thing to look at is the dean of the south carolinans democrats coalition. he is not endorsed yet. >> you bring up hispanic voters, given what the c

biden is third with 9% of the vote. political watchers say clinton's use of a personal e-mail account is a hurdle for her as a candidate. nbc news has learned two of her top aids will sit for interviews before the house committee next week. those will be closed to the press. clinton herself is scheduled to testify during a public hearing before the committee on october 22nd. joining me now is bob shrum and democratic strategist also matt schlapp and perry bacon. professor, would you want biden to enter this race now knowing everything you know and handicapping what the future light lo might look like in the next few months. >> i don't think anybody knows whether he's going to run. i think he hasn't yet decided. there are a lot of hot house stories out there. clint will still be the favorite if he enters. but it will be a whole new race and he brings real strengths to it. he's affirmative. a joyful campaigner. a happy warrior on the trail. the buzz is authenticity. joe biden is authentic in a year that craves that. he do

well, wow, imagine if the president endorses joe biden, elizabeth warren endorses joe biden. then you have a tremendously dynamic situation on the democratic side. now, short of that, let me just say i don't see joe biden getting in and beating hillary clinton. he would damage bernie sanders to some extent. does he get to the left of hillary clinton like elizabeth warren? >> part of that equation has to do with this meeting between joe biden and elizabeth warren that happened over the weekend. a lot of talk what was said and what was not said. there is is some talk that joe biden would pledge if he gets in to be a one term president, thereby possibly asking elizabeth warren to be his running mate and opening othe door for her for a nomination in the second part. steve. do you buy that? >> that is the point, right? that's the point of all of this. what we are watching is a carefully orchestrated campaign conduct conducted by joe biden and his advisors to gim a potential run. that doesn'ts inly mean he ends up running. we know for sure that he wants us to believe that he is goi

when we come back, the joe biden fact. joe biden has reportedly spent part of his vacation talking to family and friends on making a third run at the oval office. closing in on clinton, that's the "inside story". al jazeera america gives you the total news experience >>> welcome back to "inside story", i'm lisa fletcher in for ray suarez. tonight - closing in on clinton, as a former senator and vice president joe biden has the resume and name recognition to turn the race on its head if he decides to jump in. according to reports he'll make a decision by the end of summer, is that too late to enter the race. we are back with tom, michael and o'brien. what will it take to get joe biden off the sidelines into the game? >> that's only something he knows. he's dealing with a lot now. his family and his current job. he'll have to make up his mind soon to get in, and whether he doesn't get in. i think it's - having vice president biden in the field strengthens the developments. at least you have the civility on the democratic sid

the buzz about a joe biden presidential run. nbc news said according to people briefed, biden doesn't ask for support but said he's seriously considering running. cnn reported it's likely he will enter the race. according to the wall street journal, the vice president quote increasingly leaning towards entering the race and can knit together a competitive campaign. "the washington post" resorts biden has major democratic fundraisers and josh earnest, the president spokesman praised biden but knocked away questions about the president's own thinking on the race. >> the president indicated the decision he made, i guess, seven years ago now to add joe biden to the ticket as his running made was the smartest decision he made in politics and i think that should give you some sense of the president's view of vice president's aptitude for the top job. i wouldn't speculate at this point whether or not the president would offer an endorsement. >> is there a possibility you could say endorse joe biden or endorse hillary clinton? >> i woul

when we come back, the joe biden fact. joe biden has reportedly spent part of his vacation talking to >> they believed in what they were doing but they were not scientists. it wasn't science at all. >> there's a lot of lives at stake, a lot of innocent people. >> how many are still locked up? >> the integrity of the criminal justice system is at stake, plain and simple. >> "faultlines". >> what do we want? >> al jazeera america's hard-hitting... >> today the will be arrested. >> ground-breaking... >> they're firing canisters of gas at us. >> emmy award-winning, investigative series. >> we have to get out of here. >>> welcome back to "inside story", i'm lisa fletcher in for ray suarez. tonight - closing in on clinton, as a former senator and vice president joe biden has the resume and name recognition to turn the race on its head if he decides to jump in. according to reports he'll make a decision by the end of summer, is that too late to enter the race. we are back with tom, michael and o'brien. what will it take to get jo

mark: you know joe biden and jill biden. is her got that -- is your gut that he will run or not run? >> i honestly don't know. >> thanks so much. john: we will be right back with a guide to the republican debate stage after these words. ♪ mark: our second guest is the smartest holster on either side of the mississippi. thanks for joining us. i want to talk generally, we've never seen a 17 candidate field. we've never seen a candidate like trump. but some of the internals below that, he is doing better in some ways but still pretty bad for a front runner. is it sustainable? can he stay as a front runner even though many people say they would never vote for him? >> a lot of people are saying they would never vote for him, but that's true for anyone at this point. it doesn't really mean that is how things are going to turn out in the end. there is a long road to go down. the trick is, can he sustained having a lead in the poll but having almost the people feeling unfavorably toward you. i think the answer is no you have to tu

biden is weighing a run. to date informal draft biden movement got a boost. >> reporter: looking for a job, but the question for joe biden is which one? he is long eyed the presidency and is still considering joining the 2016 race. the summertime speculation has suddenly hit full boil. over whether he'll challenge hillary clinton for the democratic nomination. one factor weighing heavy. his son beau biden urged his father to run before dying of brain cancer in may. and now, one of beau biden's close advisers is joining a grassroots movement called draft biden. and the vice president is holding political meetings of his own with his old network of supporters to see if there is interest in backing a new campaign. questions about clinton's candidacy hang over the biden boom. a recent poll showed 37% viewed clinton as honest and trust worthy. while 57% did not. for biden it was the reverse. 58% found him honest and trust worthy. 34% did not. new hampshire democrat mary foley is but begging biden to run. >> hillar

while there is also new momentum for biden 2016, where "i'm riding with biden" bumper stickers are sold out. significant since the new york times" reported that biden's son urged him to run before his death. >> now a new title. grandma. >> reporter: sanders was drawing huge crowds, leaving debbie wasserman tongue tied. >> what's the difference between a democratic and a socialist? i used to think there was a big difference. what do you think it is? >> what's the difference between being a democratic and being a republican? >> can you explain the difference? >> the important distinction that i think we're going to be discussing is the difference between democrats and republicans. >> it's not a coincidence that clinton's tv ads start in iowa tomorrow. clinton disappears from the stage this week. she'll be doing a lot of fund raising behind closed doors. >>> the white house calls it the starting gun for an all-out push against climate change. critics say president obama's new regulatory effort will lead to higher energy prices and lower supplies. correspondent kevin cork takes a look at th

asked about president a potential biden run he spoke kindly about biden but noted they have divergent views. >> i have know joe biden for many years, we served in the senate for six years and you're not going to find a guy who's more decent than joe biden is. what i promise joe if he decides to get into the race is that i will, as i have done up to now, run an issue-oriented campaign. joe's juice, i suspect and know, on a number of issues are different than mine. what impact it will have on the race i don't know. i wish i could tell you but i don't will it help or hurt me or hillary clinton, i don't know. >> sanders's success has created a kind of two-candidate dynamic which front-runner hillary clinton has had to grapple with genuine pressure from the left and clinton has adopted rhetoric and policy position on a range of issues that have been more liberal considerably than many expected six months ago when she entered the race it seems fair to assume the threat posed by sanders has had at least something to do with that. if biden's enters the race, that dynamic that has been propell

a quick readout on the president's lunch with vice president biden? >> when i walk eed out it was o going. i've not gotten an early read on their lunch. >> reporter: we had the development that the vice president met with elizabeth warren how would the president deal with this if biden decides to run? you have his current vice president against his former secretary of state? >> there's not an insignificant "if" in that question and i think that's what serve interested to find out is what decision the vice president is going to make. the president has indicated his view that the decision that he made i guess seven years ago now to add biden to the ticket as his running mate was the smartest decision he ever made in politics and i think that should give you some sense of the president's view of vice president biden's aptitude for the top job. >> reporter: i assume that means the president would support vice president biden if he were to run? this is obviously a better decision than the secretary of state he chose so -- [ laughter ] you said it was the b

joe biden seemses is. there sincere. >> i don't know that she seems entitled as much as people are really ready to see a woman president. we've elected the first black president. it's her time and i think it's her time is the narrative that has played in many of our minds. >> sure. >> 2008 through 2012. >> but is that enough to elect somebody president? >> i admit it's a not. >> hillary clinton is not behaving like an entitled candidate. >> i don't think so. >> not like she did in 2008. >> oh, based on what? >> her slowigan was i'm in it t win it. >> keeping the press away at arm's length. >> that is not entitled. that's control. >> the challenge, too, of running -- >> the candidate that she was in 2008. she's different. >> there is a challenge, though, of running as a clinton in america in 2016. this country has seen clintons forry generation now. >> that's right. >> there are so many built-in perceptions about who they are, what they represent that it almost doesn't matter. that's one of the things we're

>>> and is joe biden jumping in? from a private lunch date to hints from a lectern, there are new indications that the vice president is leaden toward a run for the top job. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> this is cnn breaking news. >>> let's getting right to the breaking news. wall street took investors on a sickening roller coaster ride today. the dow battled most of the way back but then dropped again, closing down more than 3.5%. in the last five trading days alone, the dow has plunged more than 1600 points. the s&p 500 and nasdaq today closed down nearly 4% and markets around the world suffered massive sell-offs. the stampede started in china where an economic slowdown has global consequences. >>> also three americans who tackled and subdued a gunman at a high-speed train received france's highest honors. officials and fellow passengers say the three friends, along with a britishman prevented a massacre b. stone the heavily armed suspect. he was reportedly known to counter-terrorism is agen

and remember biden world is -- is filled with bidens. this isn't a bunch of other political consultants. it really is a family decision. remember, his sister runs the campaign. his niece was his political director. at some point, that's when this decision and discussion is going to take place. >> what do you think happens to president obama if joe biden and hillary clinton are both in the race? does he say i'm studiously neutral both public and privately or tilt towards his vice president? >> well, you know there is a very interesting comment that i think eric shultz was asked at the white house podium last week about biden and just gave this praise about how much that president admires and respects the job he's done as vice president. i think that's an indicator of where we know where obama's heart is on this. he is closer to biden than he is to hillary clinton. i don't think he's going to formally endorse or -- publicly tilt in one direction or another. >> all right. >> you know i -- i have a gut feeling. when the president came out to

even though joe biden is still deciding, the real joe biden, whether he's going to run for president. we have bill clinton, the ghost of ronald reagan, and it goes on and on. anyone who wants to be a joker, a jester, or a wise cracker has the ability to do what this kid from iowa did. >> very comfortable. dave, thanks. >>> firefighters in washington state are making some small gains as they battle a dozen major wildfires. with dry air and lightening in the forecast, they may soon have more fires to deal with. the biggest one covers 260,000 acres. state officials are asking for new help. >> an historic first request of washington for volunteers to fight the massive fires burning across the state. robert has returned to his hometown compelled to come help. >> i'm very compete connected to the community and the people here. i feel responsibility to do what i can. >> an astonishing 5,000 people from near and far called, e-mailed or simply marched through the doors of city hall asking what they could do. >> it was way more than we expected. it's been a humbling experience to go through, a

is joe biden trying to create a ticket of joe biden and elizabeth warren. okay. let's accept that thought for the moment. what about reversing the ticket? jerry bernstein, how much does joe biden like being vice president? might he propose to elizabeth warren, why don't you run for president with me as your experienced vice president? >> no, he might not. >> okay. >> let me just weigh in on that. i have never heard of anybody who loves being vice president, particularly beyond eight years. >> well, he certainly seems to have enjoyed it more than anyone else has done. >> that's true. >> i think also, if elizabeth warren wanted to be president, she'd be running already. >> we'll leave it there tonight and there will be more tomorrow i'm sure. thank you all for joining us tonight, thank you. >>> up next, susan sarandon joins us. she's trying to stop the execution of a man on death row in oklahoma that is scheduled for september 16th. iness strate. and a partnership with hp can help you accelerate down a path created by people, technology and ideas. to move your comp

while there is also new momentum for biden 2016 where "i'm riding with biden" bumper stickers are sold out. significant since the new york times" reported that biden's son urged him to run before his death. >> now a new title. grandma. >> reporter: sanders was drawing huge crowds, leaving debbie wasserman tongue tied. >> what's the difference between a democratic and a socialist? i used to think there was a big difference. what do you think it is? >> what's the difference between being a democratic and being a republican? >> can you explain the difference? >> the important distinction that i think we're going to be discussing is the difference between democrats and republicans. >> it's not a coincidence that clinton's tv ads start in iowa tomorrow. clinton disappears from the stage this week. she'll be doing a lot of fund raising behind closed doors. >>> the white house calls it the starting gun for an all-out push against climate change. critics say president obama's new regulatory effort will lead to higher energy prices and lower supplies. correspondent kevin cork takes a look at th

>> i think biden should consider every possibility. i think right now, you're seeing all of his friends, all of his family, they're going through an incredible grieving process, it was beau biden's last wish, he has to consider it, he has to deliberate every single possibility and avenue for him to jump in. and i think he deserves to do that for beau. but i also think at the end of the day, doing it because beau biden wanted him to do it is not reason enough. so we'll see. >> but that's not why you would do it. i'm sure it's a consideration do a degree. but what you have people in the establishment, as you say, coming and saying, we're scared, we're scared she's not going to make it. she's not going to make it and then that becomes a very compelling argument. >> but let's be very clear, we're not at that point yet. all of the polls you mentioned, look at the enthusiasm among the democrats. yes, bernie sanders is getting huge crowds and yes, he's getting bigger numbers in the polls. but she still has a substantial lead over him and the

a guy who's more decent than joe biden is. what i promise joe, if he decides to get into the race, is that i will, as i have done up till now, run an issue-oriented campai campaign. >> joining me now is joy reed. and also ken vogel's chief investigative reporter a. --. >> well potentially the woman who we brought in has campaign chops. worked on john edwards' campaign back in 2008. that did not work very well. but nonetheless has the experience and could potentially help with presidential campaign or at least bridging the gap between the official government duties and the presidential campaign. in addition he's doing a lot of other things. scheduling a meeting with major democratic fundraisers who supported his and president barack obama's reelection in 2012 at the naval observatory for after labor day. and he's deputyized a number of top aids to go out and feel out potential donors about whether there is the appetite and how much they might support a potential presidential campaign. so he's doing the things necessary to explo

that hurts both hillary and biden. >> there is an anvil around joe biden's neck. where is the grass roots support? we don't see it for hillary clinton or joe biden. we see itber bernie sanders, showing that the democratic party is more leftish than we considered it to be that a socialist is trumping, no pun intended, both of them. we don't see outpouring for joe biden. people are not taking to the streets and saying, we need joe biden. democratic party seems to be saying we need somebody who can possibly win and perhaps hillary clinton is not that person. >> a human gaffe machine. >> it's interesting to me that both hillary and joe biden, before they make their decision, assuming joe makes that decision, they both go to elizabeth warren. it seems she is the person that is most feared by both of them that she may get in the race. i have to assume, being more left-wing that bernie sanders would fear her as well. >> elizabeth warren is the center of gravity in the democratic party. there is no question that having the approval, the support, even the endorsement of el

you mentioned beau biden, hunter biden bid, biden biden, and dr. jill biden. if he decides to run none of the stuff i just said matters. if one of your son's dying wish cess that you run for president this may just be about joe biden wanting to make good on that. you know so it may not be a political calculation per se. that's what makes it hard to handicap, i think. >> and we'll have a lot more coming up later in the program on that. i did want to talk about donald trump and the "wall street journal" -- msnbc/"wall street journal" polling. dump topping the list at 19%. ben carson at 10%. ted cruz at 9%. we now can sort of see, we'll know at 5:00 tomorrow night, according to fox news when they average the national polls, but, jean cummings, what are the most likely candidates now in this race? at least on the debate stage? does john kasich make it in his home own state and is rick perry the one falling off the ledge here? >> that's what it looks like now. at the moment kasich and chris christie look like they are going to secure the last two slots. but we don'

democrats to tell joe biden. what does joe biden need to hear. how much encouragement does he need? would it take to get joe biden to stop flirting with this and say yes, i'm in? >> it would take a lot. people would have to say we're really concerned hillary clinton's campaign is evaporating, something maybe in her testimony in front of benghazi committee blows up, something like that that makes it look like this is a firestorm. at the moment when you have is hillary clinton with a series of bad news events coming out and lower poll numbers each time. she's trying to change the die na -- dynamic. let's say something positive about my campaign. i don't think at the moment you'll have sort of everything the house is on fire conversations that biden would really need to hear before he gets in. >> here is an unidentified former advisor said. quote "he really likes her personally but there is an under current of resentment and an element of and biden is by no means the only one that felt this, why does she feel entitl

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, he is super loose. >> larry: biden is a little too loose. >> like i can go out with biden and go pick up some smos. >> yes -- >> larry: hold on a second. so that's what you find an appealing quality in a presidential candidate? >> did you not hear -- >> this is america. >> larry: i love that idea. >> yeah i would like to add -- >> take the fun knob up a notch and do karaoke, like do a heart song. >> i would like to hear that. >> larry: it is like pick a heart song. >> there is always going to be -- >> now so you have biden kind of let's call it goof fins or whatever and then you have trump's goof fins which is different. >> i feel like we laugh at biden like oh he did that or said that, but trump, it is like oh he said that. >> i know it is like one beer in and off his meds. [ cheers and applause ] >> but i feel like -- i think that is what makes trump so awesome is because in the beginning i was like you, just because i work here oh this will be easy for writing jokes you know what i mean? and lately -- >> like with biden it is like a puddle of -- >> you know like funny stuff. >> i l

joe biden in the race, they want to see joe biden in the race. they near florida, ohio, nevada, south carolina, all over the country. that's really what matters, is the folks who want to see him in this race. >> speaking of which, we've heard stories his late son beau wanted to see him run. you worked very closely with him as well. do you feel the vice president has had sufficient time to grieve? you know a presidential campaign is so grueling. do you think he would be pressed into service, as it were, by anything he heard from beau before his death? >> i know he wanted his dad to be president. he want thad in 1988 and in 2008. i think the biden family in general had a firsthand view of what it takes to be president and the strains that puts on your family. i think the vice president is weighing that as part of his deliberative process. >> we hope you'll keep us up to date. the time is closing in on us fast. josh alcorn, thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >>> our sunday group joins the conversation on hill's e-mail scandal and what a

joe biden might run. president obama apparently would be okay with a joe biden run. today we heard the ceo of starbucks is being asked to run as well. >> who floated that a barista? >> i'm not sure. what would be the most fun six months of your life would be joe biden versus donald trump and see how those two go at it. >> i might buy tickets for that. >> exactly. >> juan hillary clinton is not lighting the world on fire. she's been running for office for many years. it's almost like she's the incomein incumbent. she does come across as cold. joe biden comes across as warm. do you think it is being pushed more from the grass roots or somebody in the biden camp? >> i think it's being pushed by the republicans. >> the republicans don't pitch things to maureen dowd. >> never, never. let me tell you something. the numbers still indicate that hillary is i think -- more than 50% of democrats would choose her as their nominee for the democratic party. donald trump is 20 something. that gives you an idea. the thing about the joe biden moment is that joe biden is so loved by d

maybe i'm comfortable with joe biden. look if biden is going to run, it's not just running against hillary clinton but against bernie sanders. who took up the warren mantle -- bernie sanders. >> are you talking about endorsement or running mate? >> biden said, looky here, what do you think of my front-runner for the short list? it's -- if someone warren could be convinced to do something like that early, when you start to think about how would joe biden defeat hillary clinton i can't find many ways he pulls it off, but it would take something like putting a ticket together. that's a how ronald reagan beat gerald ford. he got a ticket together early. you have to be dramatic. so, you know, i know it's hyperbole at this point, but i think it's the right bold move to do if you're trying to do this if you're biden. >> i hear you're talking about donald trump this morning. >> yes. >> is he a factor? >> the fact he had 20,000 coming into that stadium in mobile, this is seeming to continue. >> look, you're going to hear this, it'

today i've seen biden-warren tweets, i've seen biden-warren tweets. the backers are lukewarm on joe biden. you have doubts about joe biden running here. what's giving you pause? >> well, tamron, these things are true. one, it is more likely than it was a month ago when joe biden decides to get in, when a month ago no one thought this was even a responsibility. the other thing that's true is joe biden still hasn't set up with a fundraising account. the most important thing is whether he's able to raise the money that he needs to kpeet, and if joe biden sets up an exploratory committee or testing the waters committee, i think that will be a sign to a lot of people, he is going to do this. that's how someone runs from iowa and new hampshire. it makes him unlikely to reach that 50 million to $100 million. >> but how was his experience having run before? how does that factor in, and as reported earlier, some of -- the clinton campaign that they are still lingering out there. how does that still play in his tragedy. >> yes, just like once or twice before. w

what biden is -- there is no way for biden to escape the idea that he was part of the obama admin adminstration, and so if you are going to the support and vote for joe biden, you are specifically supporting and voting for ap extension of the obama administration. there is no way to get around that. hillary can offer some distance, and you know, she was the secretary of state, but that is a non-political role, and in fact, they have completely stayed out of politics when you are the secretary of state, and biden did not have that much distance. >> and the question is also, what is the safe distance politically that vice president biden will have to strike if he is going to run, because as you said, people will see him as a continuation of the obama administration in some ways. charles blow, we have to wrap it up, because we are up against the clock, but i appreciate the insight. >> my pleasure. >> all right. jim acosta is sitting in for jake tapper in "state of the union" to today and they will talk about ben carson and jim webb at 9:00 a.m. eastern this morning. >>> and this morning, former pr

that's joe biden. he's the original authentic candidate. >> you know you're starting at a disadvantage with some key things you need to succeed. money. when you put together hillary clinton's campaign and outside groups are supporting her, she's got about $70 million backing her. bernie sanders has done surprising fund-raising as well. so you start from zero and at first debate is only a few weeks away. how do you get up to speed? >> that's the great thing about draft biden is we've been around since march and we have a grassroots list of 200,000 people that's growing every day. we don't have the financial resources but certainly have a ground swell of support. i've traveled the country talking to potential supporters, to donors, to activists and they're enthusiastic to see joe biden in this race. >> okay. what's your timeline? first debate on the dnc side is october 13th. >> yeah, i think the vice president, having him on that debate stage is an important part of the campaign, and so his decision will

money, gathering volunteers and even selling biden gear to gauge interest in joe biden. across much of delaware, the interest definitely seems to be there. >> lot of affection for joe here and around the country. >> reporter: hillary clinton was at beau bindden's funeral a couple months ago. a "new york times" columnist says before he died beau urged his father to run against hillary clinton. if he does run, he will have his work cut out. she's already raised $45 million and has a lot of senators and governors who have endorsed her. it might be tough later in the game but you just never know. tim furlong, nbc 10 news. >> hillary clinton leads the field of five democratic candidates. bernie sanders, martin o'malley lincoln chafee and jim webb. a more crowded republican field, 16 candidates are running. the first live debate is later this week. >>> a new jersey man faces charges for not disclosing his hiv positive before having sex. police in easton northampton county arrested ricky webster. he is charged with recklessly endangering another person. two victims found out on

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it sounds like he's encouraging a biden run. >> yeah. it's very interesting, because i think people have thought that obama had resolved the matter, at least internally, decided to if not support hillary to do what he could for her behind the scenes. but that wasn't the message that came out from the white house a few days ago. in fact, the suggestion was made that obama might even endorse, at some point in the contest. well that certainly encourages biden. it gives him hope. having said that, i think the obama white house would be just as happy if biden didn't run. it really increases the pressure on obama and it potentially splits the democratic party in ways they don't want to see. >> but, larry, for president obama with the grass root door to door organization that he had and probably still retains, that's a huge plus for joe biden even though he hasn't done anything yet. that's a big jumping in point for him. >> well, eric it would be if obama could transfer it to bide. a good deal of it has already gone to clinton. a lot of the sta