i'm not going to stand for this anymore. >> so who is daniel webster? and who is backing him? >> reporter: to presume that daniel webster catapults to the front of the pack is probably premature. he has been backed by the freedom caucus. he got 12 votes himself when the vote were held in january. of course boehner won, but webster came in second. presumably they are going to find a candidate who unifies the party, that in my estimation will likely not be daniel webster. jason chapits also has his hat in the ring. congressmen and representatives from every faction of that cause -- caucus are going to try to get together from here. the timetable that the house is working under right now is the resignation of john boehner. he is set to leave his post on october 30th. we have said it before, if they are unable to come up with a candidate and speaker that is viable before the whole house when the elections are to be held, speaker boehner is going to remain speaker. that's not something he wants or the caucus wants, so they'll try to find a consensus pick. >> the speaker does not ha

there is jason chaffetz of utah and on the right daniel webster of florida. he is on the right and he's favored now by the ultra conservatives who tormented john boehner. and these are my experts on the matter. cnn chief political correspondent dana bash. you've had a chance to catch some of those candidates, i guess we can call them candidates. a very short election. if you blinked, you missed it. give me the rundown of the actual process you're in right now. >> reporter: well, the process is, as you can probably see, people coming in behind me. we're right outside the door. this is going to be a secret ballot actually. so we're not going to know who voted for whom in this first round. and i say first round because this is, effectively, a nomination by the republican party for whom they want to be the speaker. the actual vote for house speaker isn't going to happen until it occurs on the house floor at the end of this month. but this is still obviously very critical because of all of the things you discussed, the discord within the republican party and the i

and daniel webster of florida. and from there, if paul ryan is selected, which is a pretty likely choice, he would become the 54th speaker of the house and the first from wisconsin. thanks for the question. allan webb. we hear from dan donna who's on our independents line. port huron, michigan. go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. i'm an independent because i'm disgusted with government. but concerning the situation and the passing of the budget, two points, they're talking of t cutting for every part government that impacts american citizens, and yet immigrants get a full ride. and second of all, i heard this morning something that terrifies me that this budget approval is going to give obama a blank check. please speak to those issues. host: when you heard blank check, what was that referring to? caller: that he can spend as much money as he wants until he's out of office. this was on fox this morning. host: well, the broad outline of the deal, this two-year budget deal which will be debated in the hou

>> reporter: daniel webster is a representative from florida. he is the only person who has been a speaker of the house right now that was running for this, because he was the speaker of the florida house of representatives. he has already gotten votes in this type of election before. he came in second among republicans when these elections were held in january. what he wants to do is very different. i don't think he thinks he is going to be the next speaker of the house, but he can help prevent the freedom -- he can go into the freedom caucus and help prevent the whole house caucus from electing their guy, and that is kevin mccarthy. they came out and roughly 40 of them said, he is our man. and they are a very far-right conservative caucus. >> but you said he doesn't believe he could actually get the position. so how does this end at the end of the day? who becomes speaker? what kind of votes do they need? and is it clear who that will be at this point? >> reporter: it is certainly not clear who that will be. today the republicans are going to

there is daniel webster. in addition to the house with -- house cameras, c-span's cameras are here today. the dean of the house, john conyers will square in the news -- the new speaker. last dean was john dingell. you can with some of the news from the swearing in with craig caplan, our capitol hill producers @craigcaplan on twitter. we will look on facebook as well -- what are you looking for in the next speaker? facebook.com/cspan. on the left of your screen is congressman daniel webster of the florida. yesterday in the congress vote he received 43 fellow republican votes. he supporting to jake sherman, tweaking daniel webster is urging republicans not to vote for him as speaker. he's in the back of the chamber, speaking with steve king. daniel webster asked not to be nominated on the floor for gop speaker. the house is gathering for the election of the new speaker. this is the call of the house, the rollcall of members. we expect next, in about 15 minutes or so, the speaker will announce the establishment

but we're supporting daniel webster. we expect it to go all the way to the floor. >> 40 votes, you need 40 votes right now for him? mr. amash: i don't know what the number will be. but certainly the freedom caucus is working together. >> what's the end game here because he doesn't have 218 either? mr. amash: neither does mccarthy or neither does chaffetz. we need to have discussions as a conference and as a house. >> to get a new candidate, to get more concessions from the leadership, what? mr. amash: we have to find a compromise, we need to find a way to move forward as a unified group. and with the current approach, which is very power driven, top-down, that's not unifying to the conference and it's not good for republicans, from all ends of the spectrum. so -- >> what do you need to hear mccarthy say to feel like -- mr. amash: it's not about saying things, it's about doing things. we need changes in terms of how the structure of the house works, and, again, we got a long time between now and the elections and let's se

daniel webster? your caucus, the freedom caucus throwing support immediately to daniel webster, the congressman from florida who has a remarkable record in legislative leadership. >> well, he does. and your point is well taken, a lot of people don't know that. but this is not about those individuals. it's about the process. it's about flattening it out to make sure that all members of congress let their constituents have a voice here in washington, d.c. >> should the american people be sending e-mails? should they be communicating by phone, whatever they may choose, to let them know that republicans certainly want to see their representatives, their elected representatives in congress treated with regard and respect and gravity? i mean, you know, this looks like a revolt of the rank and file who have been treated like serfs rather than representatives of the people? this is an extraordinary moment for the republicans and what happens may well influence the outcome of the elections next year, don't yo

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daniel webster: i don't know. >> do you feel like the favorite? daniel webster: no, i don't. think there are other factors here and it would be hard to determine how that is going to play out. >> [indiscernible] have you spoken to jeb bush? representative daniel webster: he knows about it, he leads on principle and he thinks -- >> has he encouraged you? i don't think: so. if we have moved the debate forward, [indiscernible] we have to step up and say, yes we have to change the way we operate. there are some great inks that happen. -- things that happen. we were able to actually get the jump on the senate, we were able to not allow the governor at that time to have the upper hand and leverage, and all we have to stay based on principles, include membership, and take up the most important issues first. [indiscernible] done, thet get that closer we get to a deadline, the less [indiscernible] >> why do you think he's so abruptly dropped out, do you think this makes the republican -- republican conference appear chaotic? daniel webster: i don't know why he dropped out. i don't. we

we like daniel webster, former speaker of the house of state of florida and job he did with the state of florida. the freedom caucus reached the 80% threshold vote level and endorsed daniel webster based on his experience as house speaker. if we want to consider other candidates for house speaker who don't have the kind of experience that daniel webster offers, good experience i might add if you asked people who served in the florida house of representatives or who are familiar with the up tick and reputation of the florida legislature after daniel webster instituted process changes that made the whole legislature work a whole lot better, we like daniel webster and it will be difficult to now get an 80% vote to flip from daniel webster to paul ryan, particularly since paul ryan said he is not sure he wants the job. deirdre: congressman, taking that as a no. thank you for your time. >> thank you. deirdre: congressman mo brooks from capitol hill. when we come back, new developments with the cia director personal email hack. wikileaks releasing some of his personal emails. my next guest

paul ryan has arrived and so has daniel webster. what our cameras can't show you, tweeting out photos of paul ryan arriving on capitol hill. coming up the steps there. and also from daniel webster, house speaker candidate webster enters the house g.o.p. meeting with his family. we are going to stay here live. keeping an eye out as we expect it hear from members after the vote happens. we'll hear those both here in the corridor. also stakeout position. as we found out three weeks ago, you never know what might happen or what we'll hear. live coverage here on c-span. >> moats ago house republicans have just tweeted their meeting has gotten understay inside the ways and means committeing room in the longworth building on the capitol hill. candidates will be nominated. nominating paul ryan will be congressman trey gowdy. the chairman of the select committee on benghazi. second speeches for congressman ryan will come from jeb hensarling and also kristi noem. daniel webster, also running for speaker, will be nominated by fellow floridian

maybe they will support daniel webster but doesn't seem daniel webster has the support. back in january when john boehner was being voted on for speaker they never had a candidate but simply trying to undermine the speaker and take down their own leader. that is what happened. >> is this a victory for hillary clinton? i know it is a bank shot but seems she called out mccarthy for saying the strategy behind holding benghazi hearings was to bring her down politically. she handled this pretty well. she is basically calling out mccarthy. he said today that his comment about the strategy of that committee being political and partisan in nature wasn't helpful. >> i think that is true. but october 22 will be the definitive day for hillary clinton and for the republicans on the house committee at this point. i think mccarthy's statement will be more distant giving him time to get on a more level playing field. let me make one point. with boehner continuing to be speaker he is in a stronger position to clean up things like debt ceiling and issues. conservatives may not get the de

. >> we have endorsed daniel webster. paul ryan is a good man, good communicator, the kind of messenger our party needs. if he gets in the race, i think our group would look favorably on him. >> paul ryan is spending the weekend far away from washington. today he's in wisconsin watching football with his wife and three young children. his family is a big part of the reason he said he does not want the job of speaker of the house. though privately he's said to be reconsidering. it is the political scars that would come with being speaker that makes the job perhaps less appealing. it is something former speaker of the house newt gingrich warned him about on fox news sunday. >> i think paul should be very cautious. he's the most prestigious member of the house on the republican side. he has the best future. he's still very young. it is easy to get to 218 on first vote and then keeping the government open through a continuing resolution and then the debt ceiling. if not careful, by christmas, you reemibsemble john boehner. >>

now he's got competition from chaffetz and daniel webster. what do you think is going to happen here? >> i suspect that kevin mccarthy is going to prevail, particularly since he has the backing of just about all the members of the caucus except for a group of about 20, they're called the freedom caucus, and they're a group of real hard-liners who think that they want more of a place at the table, more of a voice in how the republican caucus lasts. i suspect there's going to be some bargaining and kevin mccarthy will prevail. >> bob franken, thanks so much for being here. >> thank you. >>> just ahead, a first in collegiate basketball. plus a japanese festival that brings new meaning to the phrase us against them. you're watching "first look." what if there was a bank that didn't just ask members to save; but also helped them to save? that allowed families to keep more of their money; letting them use any atm nationwide for free. and, because every dollar matters, didn't nickel-and-dime its members with monthly fees. saving them more than three

guest: i continue to support daniel webster. he is the only candidate or speaker that has a plan to change -- for speaker that has a plan to change how this place is run. it has been a top-down approach rather than bottom-up. some members who worked close to leadership didn't have much of a in theto have a role caucus. this is a representative institution. as i told john boehner a few years ago, your voters and while are no more important than my voters in kansas. it is not about changing a leader, it is about changing the process. i am still not for sure help outline what run the institution -- sure how paul ryan would run the institution different than the current speaker. host: one of his conditions was that nobody can just go to the floor and offer a perfect resolution to vacate the chair of the speakership. caller: that seems -- guest: that seems like an arcane role for many folks. thomas jefferson thought it was a good enough idea to put it in the rules of our congress. but any democratically elected institution should hav

they still stand by their original endorsement of daniel webster. i spoke to a lot of them as they came out of this room at their conference meeting a short while ago and they said they had serious concerns about paul ryan. one, did he have the time to do the job if he wants to spend weekends with his family. could he do the necessary fund-raising. they were greatly troubled by his views on comprehensive immigration reform. and he's also expressed a willingness to reform a rule called the motion to vacate the chair. that's the parliamentary procedural tactic they'nt with aed to use against john boehner to depose him. ryan is saying if i use this job i don't want to have a weapon pointed at me in the form of that rule right away. so it is going to be close as to whether these guys actually endorse ryan. if they don't i'm told he more likely than not will say thanks, but no thanks, i don't want to have to go into this the same way boehner and mccarthy did. >> thank you very much, luke. >>> turning now to the 2016 campaign and the two front-runners for

>> i'm going to vote for daniel webster for speaker. they both want to bring the conference together. they just disagree on how it should be done. paul ryan thinks the speaker needs more power, and daniel webster thinks that the members need more power. so we all have the same goal here. it's just sort of a differnce of opinion on how to get there. >> let's look at some of this bold list of demands that you're talking about that you think is borderline unreasonable. he wants the party to come together. he wants to be a unifying figure. he does want to change house rules that the rules are made as a team, if you will. he also wants better work/life balance. he said he's not going to travel as much to raise money. how bold really are these demands? >> well, you know, to make sure that everybody will vote for him is a bold list. he said that he wanted every caucus in the gop to be for him. but i'd like to remind him the chairman of the tea party caucus and the chairman of the liberty caucus are two guys he kicked off the budget committee.

run. >> we've endorsed daniel webster, but paul ryan is a good man. he's a great communicatcommunio. our group would look favorably on him. this is not just about who the next speaker is, it's about what is going to change. the business business as usual attitude, changing is on our minds. >> the big question, though, is would paul ryan want the job? he's mulling it over with his family in wisconsin. they are one of the big reasons he does not want the job but also the political scars that accompany any speaker ship that make the jobless appealing. something newt gingrich warned him about. >> i think paul should be very cautious. he's the most prestigious member with the best future. he's still very young. it's easy to get 218 on the first vote and then you get to keeping the government open through a continuing resolution and then you get to the debt ceiling and if you're not careful by christmas you resemble john boehner. >> now, there had been some talk about newt gingrich himself possibly being brought in to fill the leadership vacuum but today gi

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you're supporting daniel webster. he does not have a lot of support, though, amongst a lot of the caucus. is this what you wanted? >> you know, it surprised us all when kevin decided not to run yesterday. what surprised us even more is we had two can dpats and speaker boehner called off the election. daniel webster would have won yesterday, he had more votes than chaffetz. >> representative walters, what's your message to congressman massey right now, who was one of the people standing in the way of kevin mccarthy yesterday. today won't commit to paul ryan. what do you think about the freedom caucus, congressmen like congressman massey, who are holding out, this minority within the party, less than 10% of congress keeping things from happening right now? >> i just remember what ronald reagan used to say to us. fy can get 80% of what i want, i've won. we all need to give a little bit. we're never going to find the perfect person because nobody is perfect. but what we have to rm is we have to put the american people fir

this is florida congressman daniel webster. but will they then stick together during the actual vote? that is yet to be seen. cnn's chief national correspondent john king is going to join me now. john, things are getting interesting. >> this is interesting. this debate is really about who they should be and what months tour they should take. the freedom caucus, 40 or so conservative backing daniel webster right now. most kai came in in the tea party wave of 2010, some in the second republican wave of midterm election of 2014. they think their party which won those elections, they have this frustration they're not winning. why haven't we repealed obamacare? why do we keep increasing the debt ceiling so the government can borrow more money? they're frustrated. now, what john boehner has tried to tell them and what kevin mccarthy is going to have to try to tell them now, no matter what, yes, we have a house majority but there are only 54 republican senators. by the way, there's a democratic president, barack obama, who can veto an

daniel newhauser with us, why did the caucus endorse daniel webster? tell us about him. daniel: webster is the former speaker of the florida house. he prides himself on having in his words reformed the , process of how bills were passed in the house. he has been going door to door, caucus to caucus, delegation to delegation here on the hill making that case. he said, i did this in florida and i can do it here. , we recognize that the process is broken, and i want to fix that and empower individual members. he has been talking about a power pyramid that he wants to do away with to allow individual members to have more of a say in legislation that comes up, and how it ends up getting past. passed. host: you say this quest for the speakership complicates things for kevin mccarthy. what is the impact on mccarthy as well as jason chaffetz? daniel: the unknown is jason chaffetz. we do not know how much support he has. there are only a handful of members who have publicly endorsed him. he could get a few, as well. the freedom caucus comprises 30-40 members and if they vote in a

there is great respect for chairman ryan and also great respect for daniel webster. it is not as much about the person as it is the process. we want to make sure washington, d.c. works for the millions of american citizens who believe that we don't know how to govern here in washington, d.c. and so it is more about the process than the person. hopefully we're making good progress there. >> a closed door meeting this wednesday. and then, of course, followed by the full house vote on the floor on thursday. do you think this plays out? >> i think right now it is certainly looking like we'll have a speaker ryan. there are a number of conversations happening almost around the clock to make sure the rules and the way that we do business here in washington, d.c. gets changed. i think there needs to be a down payment, a good faith effort to say we're going to flatten this process out, make sure that the rank and file members and more importantly the american people have a voice in what a positive agenda might be for america. i believe chairman ryan is committed to that. it l

that's why they endorsed daniel webster. now, what we're going to see in about an hour is closed doors because this is going to be a secret ballot. the entire house, republican caucus, is going to vote. and all kevin mccarthy or somebody else needs is 125 votes to get the nomination. that's effectively all it is. it's the nomination from the party because the actual vote for house speaker isn't until the end of the month, october 29th. that is going to be the key. of course, as you guys mentioned, the house speaker is a constitutional role, which means it is something that has to be approved by a majority of the house. so, you have to get 218 votes, all members, to be speaker. so the key for kevin mccarthy is, assuming he does get the nomination today, is whether he gets that or whether it ends up being another round of votes. and i know you guys are both history buffs, john and kate, that hasn't happened, there hasn't been a second round in almost a century. 1923. we'll see if that ends up happening. >> intrigue. >> history

also in the race are jason chaffetz and daniel webster. the more conservative wing backing website er. brave live in washington, what can we expect today. >> we can expect some discord. some are already said they are not supporting mccarthy. he is still considered the front runner. he's the majority leader. he is the number two behind boehner. but the problem is some conservatives think he is too much like john boehner. they have been fighting for a greater voice within the party and not inclined to support mccarthy. jason chaffetz has been a conservative critic and outspoken critic within the party. so we're expecting he will get a decent amount of support and then daniel webster, who is not nearly as well known is the person that the conservative freedom caucus says they are voting for today. about 40 lawmakers there. today an internal vote, that final vote to choose the house speaker is october 29th when democrats get to weigh in. and are they likely to support one of these? or as some of them are say already saying now, they are going

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daniel webster and jason chaffetz. a know it has a clear path forward for who will rise to become speaker. as of now, we have heard a couple of ideas. votingunez of california perhaps that john boehner should stay on. he other is tom price saying should actually have a caretaker speaker in the next 15 months as the conference tries to call us around someone new. the big thing right now is there is just no answer and no clear candidate. shock is the only way members and staff has just -- have described how they felt around two hours ago. dave: you mentioned the house from caucus wielding a lot of hill.on the what was the critique of mccarthy? phil: that he would not necessarily concede what they wanted or needed. this group that met behind closed doors two weeks ago, decided to vote en masse for daniel webster. that was taking 40 points away from kevin mccarthy. that would not have been a problem today. but he would have needed to end 18 votes on the house floor. there is only 247 republican members. that was when to be

florida congressman daniel webster and utah representative jason chavez. >> i will support the nominee on the floor and you put your hat in the ring and fight and if you fall short, then you unit. >> chavez, thought to be the underdog promised if thosen he would bridge the divide among house republicans. mccarthy's candidacy showed signs of trouble. out of the gate he stumbled when he appeared to link hillary clinton's poll numbers to the benghazi committee and the house freedom caucus made of up 30 to 40 members announced it was backing daniel webster. 218 is the magic number with victory and with 248 republicans in the house, the winner is all but assured to be a gop member much the final house vote is set for october 29th. in washington, joel waldman, fox news. >> here in the bay area, there are new details now in the shooting death of a yoga instructor. sheriff deputies recovered the weapon used in the killing. the suspects were captured hundreds of miles away in portland, oregon. they're being held and interviewed by the county investigators who travelled to portland. i've been

and also from daniel webster, a congressman from florida. take a listen. [indiscernible] >> wait a minute. come on over, guys. come on up. come on up. alright, listen. i think i shocked some of you, huh? listen, we have been going through this campaign talking to a lot of members, but the one thing. i said we ship with the conference first. there's something for us to unite, and we need a fresh face. i will stay on as majority leader. but the one thing i found talking to everybody is we're going to unite and be strong. we need a new face to help do that. so, nothing more than that. i feel good about the decision. i go great to have my family here, my colleagues. going to be stronger. we fought hard to win the majority and turn the country around. step forward.st >> if you are going to run, why change at noon? what happened? kevin mccarthy: we had our conference. there are calls into the district. i don't want making the vote for speaker a tough one. i want to go to the floor with 220. i think the best thing for our party right now is that we have 247 votes

we had 80% threshold we reached on daniel webster, i'm supporting daniel, but paul ryan issued a letter tonight that could have been written by daniel webster talked about being more inclusive. the difference between daniel and paul ryan as speaker he delivered on that already. on the floor of the house, and the speaker daniel webster has a great ring to it in history, what will have to happen in the future if paul ryan wants to be successful if and when he gets the vote, he has to deliver on what webster promised to be inclusive and bottom up and have the approval rating, two speakers essentially john boehner and his lieutenant, they didn't get the job or lost the job, it's been history in the making but now we'll have the role test the water what happens as we go forward. lou: paul ryan, as i will tell you i've been somewhat critical, perhaps more than somewhat critical, i oppose his views on open borders, amnesty. the trans-pacific partnership, the free trade deal that makes no sense on any level except to the folks on k street and the u.s. chamber of commerce and the business roundt

i am wondering what you make of daniel webster? the 40 or so boats. even though he himself is not quite 18 partier. he wants to improve the system. the way that office operates. >> my sense is if they can bring together republicans, it is good for all of us. we are done. if we cannot rely on republicans, we are the majority. delivering votes to get things done. budget. jobs bill. then we cannot get our work done. we may see another government shutdown. republicans need to make their decision. they need to end the chaos. they need to come together. neil: all right. do you think that speaker boehner stays on a little longer to do with these issues? >> i think that people will start to realize that maybe he was the best that they had. i do believe that he try to make it work. for many of us on the democratic side. he tried. not easy to govern. not willing to take your lead as speaker. neil: all right. congressman, thank you. i appreciate your indulgence. megan, back to you. who wants the job? >> i respect the fact that he wants to go home and be with his

daniel webster got the house freedom caucus, the conservatives' backing. the reason why there are so few candidates is because everybody assumed mccarthy had this all sewn up, that there was no chance for anybody else to emerge. we are getting more reports here, a colleague tells me mccarthy got up before the conference and announced that he was not the person to be the face of the party. so this is developing. this is ongoing. i can just tell you that if it is in fact the 218 argument that mccarthy felt so weak that he was not able to get elected on the first ballot, that just strikes me as a little odd or maybe he did some soul searching over the last week in light of that benghazi gaffe and realized that he did not want to face the scrutiny of the media of being front and center. we mentioned earlier, stephen colbert making fun of the way he spoke. maybe he was not up to the task. but all indications were just until this news came out 15 minutes ago, 10, 15 minutes ago, that he was going for the job. that he wanted it. i got to say one other thing. this

we know daniel webster. he took a model that he defused the members. i think whoever the next speaker s. paul ryan or anyone else, has to go to that kind of model. that's the environment that's going to be most conducive to producing the results we told the voters we would do, to fighting for those republican principles that we were elected to fight for. >> here's the problem, republican establishment types call your group the hell-no caucus, or the suicide caucus, and they say they're more fare than you are in governing. if i may -- let me just finish the question. the fact is you keep talking about the obstacles or the tests you're going to put up. you're just 40 members of a 247-member caucus at some point, don't you and your members have to bow to the will of the majority of republicans? >> of course we're willing to compromise, but what we need in the house, what i think the american people are demanding, what our voters are demanding is let's not forfeit for the white house before the ref blows the whistle. let's not forfeit before the game start

. >> jason dropped out but daniel webster is still in. he's providing an alternative to paul ryan. >> what's going to be different about paul ryan leading the house, assuming he's elected tomorrow morning? >> ryan is promising a more inclusive process to get more buy in from rank and file members. he's also pledging there will be fewer last minute deadline deals. ryan said yesterday this budget debt ceiling package was a lousy process and basically pledged to change it. last night he said in statement we need a robust dialogue about improving the process so each member has a greater voice. we need a firm deadline to implement change. that's music to the ears of many rank and file house conservatives. that's why we expect tomorrow morning when the house goes to vote for a new speaker that paul ryan should likely have plenty of votes. >> all right. that may be happening live in a couple of minutes. thank you. >>> round three of the republican debate just hours away. 14 republican candidates with two front runners. everybody else fighting fo

webster for speaker.elections in the house for the speaker will be held next week. we'll have complete coverage of all the political headlines of the week,be sure to catch that at 9:30 sunday morning on our sister station, fox 28 and again at 10-30 right here on cbs 2. new this morning, one person was killed and two others injured in yet another shooting on a college campus, this time in nashville at tennessee state university. university.right now, police say the shooting was prompted by a dispute over a dice game. the two other victims have been hospitalized.this shooting comes just a week after three people were wounded by gunfire at an off-campus party just across the street from the same college. cbs 2 news is learning more about the criminal history of a man who's charged with murdering a 4-year-old in a fit of road rage in albuqueque, new mexico. mexico.tony torrez made an initial court appearance thursday.police say the 27-year-old killed lily garcia when he fired at the truck her father was driving.over the past ten years, torrez has been charged with drug

i'm for daniel webster, he says give power back to the membership. david: but i'm wondering whether or not it comes down to matter of different policies or just a matter of trust? >> it is a matter of trust. it is a matter of process. we're not concerned about his policies. we want to know that he is going to run a fair process. david: are you a reagan republican? would you consider yourself to be one? >> i would say i am a reagan republican. and so are my constituents for the most part. david: in what way is paul ryan not a reagan republican? >> well, i'm afraid he is a boehner republican, in fact. david: why do you say that? i mean i happen, i known him for a long time. he has always been promoting reagan kind of conservative ideals. he was raised at the foot of jack ryan politically speaking. excuse me, jack kemp. i mean the guy seems to me to be a reagan republican through and through? >> he is a good man, don't get me wrong and he has conservative principles. i'm worried that he kicked two member, conservative members off of his budget committee

daniel webster came with his entire family. we hear from sources that the family is on hand tomorrow expecting to take the gavel officially. they're being counted right now. ballots are being counted and submitted and now counted. shub here in about a minute or so, thomas, when we find out. nay're very cautious of leaks from the room. >> how millennial of them. since we are getting the information, talk about the bigger narrative from the hill and conservatives happy or unhappy with the budget deal that they will go forward with and basically send john boehner out to pasture on. >> reporter: well, the freedom caucus, that 40 or so group of really conservative members, not happy with it. they don't like some of the pay fors in it. they do not like the fact that it was constructed behind closed doors and felt without the input primarily leadership driven and paul ryan echoed those concerns yesterday saying the process stang and however today paul ryan came out in support of it and i believe you'll see 90 house republicans or mayb

host: comedy votes does daniel webster have -- how many votes does daniel webster have? probably would have gone to 60 or 70 on the first ballot, there is a caucus that had endorsed him and i understand universally. that would have been about 40. we picked up 20 elsewhere. it would have been a strong number four dan on the first ballot. guest: the drudge report had a banner earlier, not anymore, king ryan, about his condition that he is coming to them. what you make of him saying, if you agree to change the rules, that allow a motion to vacate the chair? guest: i do not know if it is just that motion, several rules changes he wants people to agree to. several conditions upon which he does not want to entertain other suggestions from others in the party. he said something last night with, vehemently disagree he said he does not believe it would be appropriate to do a comprehensive a border security and immigration bill before next november while we have a president that in his words believe we can trust as a negotiating partner on immigration reform. i respect that involv

but we have endorsed daniel webster. until somebody is a declared candidate, we won't move to other candidates. it is not about the who, it's about the what. what are we going to do in the house to change the culture? what are we going to do so we can get 247 republicans together on the same page? what will we do so every member of the conference feels they're actually valuable and doing the things they need to do. >> congressman cole, congressman labrador and the freedom caucus have been openly frustrated and a lot of an months if i towards your friend in the leadership. john boehner is a friend of your, so is kevin mccarthy. do you think their points and their sort of concern is valid? >> yeah, i do. look, i think there's a lot of concern about the rule. we're always willing to relook at those. and we should. i actually thing this process, as chaotic as it looks from the outside and as difficult as it has been for some individuals, is probably a healthy one. >> you think that the chaos is healthy? >> yeah, i actually d

neil: so for now the freedom caucus says daniel webster is our guy. daniel webster says he's not going anywhere, but you mention those concerns, neil, that some republicans might have about paul ryan. i want to read you real quick from eri eric eric for that, caps on ceo pay, the gio bill, and the fiscal cliff, he says paul ryan is one of less than a dozen congressman who have voted for every bailout to come before congress. that right there might be some of the heat that paul ryan gets forward. neil. neil: you look good from afar but once you're in the race or looks like you might be interested in the good, far from good. >> exactly. neil: thank you very, very much. there is another strategy here, congress is free to look outside its own dish for congressman. you can just search the country. chad on that. chad, how realistic is that and how would it be done? >> that would be extraordinary because that's never happened on capitol hill. it doesn't say anywhere you have to be a member of the body but we're a little ways from going down that particular p

martha: we'll speak with republican congressman daniel webster. he will introduce himself to you and tell you yes want to be speaker of the house. gregg: the white how is pulling the plug on a plan to train syrian rebels because it's not work. that comes amid warnings russia is fighting a proke war with the youth inside syria. general jack keane is raising the flag. he will be joining us live. martha: a report detailing the staggering number of illegal immigrants who are released, then commit more crimes. gregg: a stern warning that dozen of americans are talking to isis online but the united states can't find them. lyndsey graham will be joining us with his reaction. >> we are going to pull the caliphate up by it roots and kill every one of these that we can. >>> gregg: a deadly shooting at none university in arizona, flagstaff. this is the chief of police answering questions. >> i don't know if they are fraternity, they were just student groups. >> [inaudible] >> i don't think i can answer that either. >> were there any other injuries? >> a tota

daniel webster is a great man and a fellow floridian. i really like him. i think his personal conduct and what he stands for are, make him an outstanding candidate. let's see what else is out there. i will continue to say that we ought to consider outsiders. best athletes if you will. folks that accomplished things outside of just politics. not just another career politician that will go along to get along. we need to shake it up. deirdre: congressman, second time you sate out sighters. i know you have at least one person in mind. who is a booed pick, hypothetical or not? the. >> i think if you looked to the outside world, folks at universities, folks in business leaders, i think you could come up with a good list of republicans that could do this job. and so i hope that we will be have a little bit of imagination as we move forward here and find someone who can show leadership and someone who is a credible voice. remember, our market says, we want an outsider. so we need a credible voice to go to our market. our constituents and say we're willing to do th