dennis kucinich back with us as well. judson what do you make of the poll? >> there is lies, damn lies and political poles. you can get anything you want out after political poll. i do like at it this way. the tea party is demonized by basically everybody. demonized by the far left. demonized by the republican establishment. the chamber of commerce wants to notnd $100 million to defeat liberal democrats. tea party candidates. we're demonized by everybody. because we're desendized organization. we don't have designated spokesman or rapid response team. they can beat down on us some and distort our message a bit. david: mercedes not every road leads to donald trump but let me put tomtom out there as an example. perhaps a lot of americans feel he is voicing concerns that went to the tea party so strongly, of being anti-establishment, anti-professional politicians, that the tea party was against? >> i think it is not just donald trump. ben carson, resonates with the tea party movement. i think ted cruz definitely has a strong appeal with the tea party movement.

amy: that was ohio congressman, former democratic presidential candidate, dennis kucinich testifying in 2012. this week is the fourth anniversary of the death of gaddafi who died close to a year before the benghazi attack. our guest is melvin goodman, former cia and state department analyst. senior fellow at the center for international policy and director of the center's national security project. can you follow-up on what dennis kucinich is saying and what you think are the critical lessons today that we have or have not learned, no goodman? >> i think he was spot on. i would go back to 2003 when we invaded iraq under false pretenses because it was a total corruption of the intelligence process, remember, gaddafi had been in power for about three decades. mubarak had been in decades -- in power for about two or three decades. libya was stable and egypt was stable. saddam hussein had been in power for several decades, and hours a certain stability in iraq. the important thing is, these countries were not national security problems for the united states. then we use military power in

you know jerry brown makes dennis kucinich look like sharla main war time -- win stan churchill. ward, sorry. >> you want to go over that one again? sharla >> i said jerry brown makes dennis kucinich look like a tri headed hydra of churchill, humrabi and sharlamay. that's what i said and i'm sticking to it. >> okay. >> how are you doing? hi, everybody. i'm jerry brown. i went off the public nickel on to my father's dime when i was 18. bi, everybody. governor brown. >> you know what, miller, i have to be with you friday and saturday. starting to get worried put on extra security. there he is. dennis miller. >> bye-bye. >> we got it. see you on friday. >> bye-bye. >> miller and i looking forward to seeing everybody in st. louis and chicago this weekend for don't be a pinhead show for don't be be a pinhead. martha maccallum on deck, another intrusion by black lives matter. [chanting] >> no justice, no peace. >> martha, moments away. ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn

. >> dennis kucinich, redemption. well done. i don't know what that was all about, but do not mess with texas, real or fake. >> sounds like jeb. >> completely inappropriate, inappropriate, and i hope you apologize. >> no, that was will ferrell >> strategically. kennedy: let's employ our own strategically. so who is going to make the most tonight? >> anderson cooper. because i still have in my head's madonna just smacking him from behind at her concert. i feel like he might still be feeling that. have a few faux pas'. >> will will he do to the other candidates on stage? >> is going to pull his punches. >> he wants to keep it classy. it's. >> just waiting for them to ask to convert to kilometers. we had one pleasant lincoln, and that was plenty. >> they agree on illegal immigration. there is no daylight between any of them. to hear them not attack each other and agree. >> if you're not going to go after her record, her server >> her name. >> what good are you? do you really want to win? >> we will discover. the aneurysm is on the

we had dennis kucinich on with us about 45 minutes ago. he said he did not think that mr. biden was going to get in. i don't know. what do you think? do you think he should get in? do you think -- i mean kind of dull last night. joe certainly would add some oomph to this. >> it was dull. and they didn't do much to challenge hillary clinton beyond the first step. thinking about the 80 yard line and couldn't take it all the way in with challenge fighting with one arm behind their back against her if she did less well. she didn't do as well last night -- >> what would they challenge her on? they have the same beliefs and policies, work for the same guy. she says such nice things about the president, who is no heir there. but ed henry reported he's got to get in this week. >> it's hard to run for president if you're indicted. >> that's true. >> true. >> yeah. and -- >> just saying. >> and if you're going to get in you have to be in now if you want to be on all the ballots. heather nauert is working on the news. >> a couple of things i want to tell you about. the former nba sta

dick gephardt, dennis kucinich ran that year. joe lieberman ran that year. it was an interesting bunch on the democratic side in 2004. but none of those people honestly were anywhere near as interesting as the reverend al sharpton. naturally out of all of those who were running in 2004, it was al sharpton who was the one who was invited during the presidential primary that year to be the host of "saturday night live." >> hit it. ♪ i feel good, i knew that i would ♪ >> while he was running for president, al sharpton hosted "saturday night live." it was awesome. he did his james brown impression which turned out to be much better than any other james brown impression you have seen. it was amazing. it was one of the more awesome political nights on "saturday night live." but it also led to the most boring thing that's ever been put on television in the history of the world. because that night, with the reverend al sharpton hosting "saturday night live" led to some poor nbc local affiliates in missouri and california having to play this. they had no choice a

kucinich join us. laura, first to you. trump vs. hillary. >> he knows how to dominate a stage that he is not even on. it's amazing. right? obama goes on "60 minutes," trump talks about what a disaster on "60 minutes" compared to his performance. hillary and the gang ready to let loose in vegas. trump is like they really would prefer for me to be on stage to have a real audience but he will be live tweeting the event. i think there will be moments where more people will be following trump on twitter and facebook than watching the debate. it's brilliant branding on his part. dominating a stage that you are not part of you are not on. how many politicians would have the brains or strategy to do this? i don't know how many. your thoughts on this? >> laura is right about her assessment but how it is still about trump while hillary clinton made a good move in appealing to the culinary workers union be which is very well organized and very persuasive and effective in nevada, there still is this larger picture