how jeb bush lost debate. 538.com. "yeah, jeb bush is probably toast." "the boston globe." "the beginning of the end for jeb." conservative blog red state. "dear jeb bush, it's time to take your campaign out back and shoot it." the syndicated column by the founder of red state, "jeb bush is not the man for this presidential season." salon.com, "jeb bush's stunning televised implosion." buzzfeed. "jeb bush continues death spiral at gop debate." the chicago tribune, "gop debate helps ted cruz and marco rubio but leaves jeb bush in trouble." "the weekly standard." "jeb's dead." "the national review," "jeb finds himself on the ropes." "the dale your caller," "it's time for jeb bush to call it quits." new york magazine, "the instant and widely acknowledged death of bush's hopes." slate.com, "jeb died on that stage." "the new republic," "this might have been jeb's waterloo. the moment when he lost everything once and for all." bloomberg news, "bush's big bomb." it was even worse than it looked. a fundamental test and bush failed it badly. that's left, right and center. that's eve

he said that jeb bush is running for something. and he's had a few hiccups and then had the immigration issue fall apart for him, he learned how to lay low and hold his cards and decide when the to hit. he did it in the debates and he did it today. >> he waited until bush made the attack. the comparisons between rubio and obama, harry reid democrat in the senate. he said actually he reminded me of john edwards not because of any of the personal stuff but bringing edwards into this stuff. but let me ask you about bush's candidacy, the next republican debate, 48% of our bing poll respondents think he's going to be the nominee. what would it take for him to turn it around at this point. >> he needs more campaign stops, his campaign is not raising enough money. last night when he had an opportunity to take a shot at marco rubio and say you need to resign, you're not spending enough time doing your job, it fell flat. he was bragging that he was 7-0 in his fantasy football league. how does this guy have enough time to play fantasy footba

jeb bush had had absolutely no comeback for it. jeb bush tried to say something. and marco rubio stopped him which was problematic which was jeb bush's problem all night. he had very little talk time. he never seized the moment either. he never recovered from early on. i started hearing from some of his supporters within minutes they could not get over what they were seeing. every supporter of his, to a person, said to me, we had a terrible night. i don't know what it means now. we still have five debates, we have money, but it's a problem. >> another part of the challenge is where is he his morning, maeve? >> he has to change his narrative now. >> as bad as the media is, they're the refuse ferryererefe. let me you can, maeve, for the maya angelou genius, it's how you make them feel. the tone of i'm actually your friend and that's why i'm telling you this, how did it play for you? >> yeah, you know, it was dismissive, but soft. he did not go, you know, after jeb bush the way that donald trump has, obviously. so, it was effective from that perspective. and i think

jeb bush did not do it. she said the campaign will have to take the next few days and reassess and find a way to move forward in a different way that puts jeb in a more positive light and reinforces his strengths. >> and to your point that jeb bush did not seize the moment. a look at the candidates time. we don't have it yet. jeb bush actually spoke the least. carly fiorina spoke the most. ten minutes and 30 seconds. that is because carly fiorina butted in. she answered any question asked to any candidate. she took the time. ted cruz is another candidate. he was in the middle of the time. ted cruz's message was that the media isn't the friend of the conservatives here. listen to one of his exchanges with the moderators. he really went after it. >> the questions asked is not trying to get people to tear into each other. it should be what are the substantive issues. >> i asked you about the debt limit and got no answer. >> you want me to answer the question. i'm happy to answer the question. let me tell you ho

bush. but let's senator new hampshire, jeb bush spent the day. kasie hunt joins me from the grant it state. kasie, you've been doing a lot of reporting behind the scenes. today about jeb bush trying to say all is calm, all is well. what have you learned behind the scenes? >> chuck, trying to spin this as well as it can be spun but they also know that that's an uphill battle. jeb bush himself on a conference call trying to calm down some of those nervous donors around 3:30 this afternoon, sally bradshaw, a top adviser also on the call. he vowed to improve, that he said he's going to try to get better as a debater, campaigner and looking forward to get back out on the trail. he also thanked donors for hard work and refuting the national media narrative pushing behind him. of course the challenge is, that narrative has just turned so aggressively against him. chuck, i've been talking to people in rubio's campaign, and those who have given to him, there are rubio people reaching out softly, gently, to some of the bush donors who feel might be willing

when we come back, jeb bush versus marco rubio. more on the sunshine showdown, after these words from our sponsors. ♪ mark: everybody has seen the clip of jeb bush trying to slam marco rubio on the attendance record. and then getting slammed back five times as hard. that wasn't the only problem last night. not the only thing that made his night so atrocious. even worse than that, the mets. let's take a look. jeb bush the biggest tax : increase happened under the obama ministration. you find a democrat for cutting spending, i will give them a warm kiss. i'm 7-0 in my fantasy football league. they cannot regulate themselves, the nfl needs to look at moving away from them a little bit. and there should be some regulation. i have no clue whether the federal government is the proper place. my instinct is to say, hell no. just about everything for the e federal government. >> are we talking about getting the government involved in fantasy football? chris christie we have $19 : trillion in debt, people out of work, isis and al qaeda att

jeb bush. what do you think is the strategy or smart that jeb bush is taking him on? >> well, you know, uhm until just a few months ago, jeb bush allowed these attacks to go on and go on and and go on. many of his supporters were upset by it. the jeb bush we've seen in the past month or so since that debate has decided to take donald trump on and just because of these comments made by his brother, we've seen a video put out on saturday that questions donald trump as a leader. also they put a fund-raising e-mail out to try to raise money off this. we also saw jeb bush on "state of the union" question whether donald trump is the person you want in charge of the nuclear code. it's getting really nasty at this time. >> mark preston, thank you so much. this dispute was a focal point last night, jeb bush and several other republican candidates were speaking at the faith and freedom coalition near dallas. trump was not there. >> one of the bigger moments came when the pastor weighed in on this back an

jeb bush, why have your numbers fallen? how about talking about the substantive issues that people care about? >> reporter: and republican national convention chairman reince priebus came to the spin room after saying he is disappointed with cnbc. back to you. >> thank you, sara. let's talk about the winners and losers. jeremy diamond has a piece on cnn. read it at your leisure. we are talking about the winners and losers. ted cruz attacked the media. we played one bit of it there. let's play a bit more. >> the questions that are being asked shouldn't be trying to get people to tear into each other. it should be what are your substantive solutions. >> i asked you about the debt limit and got no answer. >> you want me to answer that question? i'm happy to answer that question. let me tell you -- >> we're moving on. >> i have a question for out the same subject. >> you don't want to hear the answer, john? >> you used your time on something else. >> you're not interested in an answer. >> so you could hear the tension. you coul

jeb bush: i am on your team. >> we are all children of god. jeb bush: that was a stupid joke. >> i make them all the time. we would like to offer you a simple prayer. like you, we are prayer -- people of faith. our leaders to ease the suffering affected by climate change. >> we pray for the poor and vulnerable, those most affected by climate change and fossil fuel extraction. god of all creation, here are prayer. fracking,se harmed by coal mining, natural gas pipelines and offshore oil drilling, god of all creation, hear our prayer. >> to pray for our leaders to open her heart to climate creation,od of all hear our prayer. >> as someone who did great things in florida, i would like to know how you would lead us facing climate change. jeb bush: i appreciate you being here. thank you for the yield. that was an elegant way to get to the task at hand. the answer i gave applies to this issue as well. i think we can solve more problems when the economy is growing, when people's income is growing. the solution cannot be to hollow out economic activit

jeb bush: i am on your team. >> we are all children of god. jeb bush: absolutely. that was a stupid joke. >> i make them all the time. we would like to offer you a simple prayer. like you, we are people of faith. we pray for our leaders to ease the suffering affected by climate change. >> we pray for the poor and vulnerable, those most affected by climate change and fossil fuel extraction. god of all creation, here are prayer. >> for those harmed by fracking, coal mining, natural gas pipelines and offshore oil drilling, god of all creation, hear our prayer. we pray for our leaders to open her heart to climate justice, god of all creation, hear our prayer. >> as someone who did great things in florida, i would like to know how you would lead us facing climate change. jeb bush: i appreciate you being here. thank you for the yield. that was an elegant way to get to the task at hand. the answer i gave applies to this issue as well. i think we can solve more problems when the economy is growing, when people's income is growing. the solution cannot be to hollow

again, jeb bush is the green. he's way down here at 10:00% on average in new hampshire in the last several polls. donald trump in the most recent polls, see if the new new hampshire polls show donald trump coming down as other polls, especially in iowa but at the moment donald trump is ahead in the state of new hampshire. dr. carson down here. jeb is down here with carly fiorina, marco rubio and john kasich is down here as well. somebody from the establishment may break out but at moment, anderson, with this crowded field and the two outsiders dominating the race jeb bush has not been able to break free. other candidates that you would say are lyric him, marco rubio like him looking to get the establishment vote and the governor kasich very much like him trying to get the conservative, governor conservative like ronald reagan vote. so jeb bush right now, for all the work he's doing, he's stuck down here which to the point remember the last cycle and the last debate. carly fiorina went way up after the debate and s

jeb bush is faltering. and jeb bush with only 106 days to iowa thinks he needs to pick a fight to get traction. but he picked a wrong fight with the wrong guy and he's not going to win this fight. martha: if george w. bush was running against him he would give a sideways glance like he gave al gore like who are you. but nobody has stood up to donald trump with that vigor. it's interesting to watch. let's play one more piece of this sound. the back and forth between chris wallace and donald trump on wher he's presidential enough. >> you have called rand paul a lightweight, jeb bush low energy and you called bernie sanders a maniac ... >> and a communist. i'm running against a lot of people. they come out and attack me very viciously. i'm a counter puncher. i don't have a choice. martha: he said this is the campaign, i'm different, do you believe it? >> these people are his opponents, but they are not calling him a maniac or insulting him in terms of calling him names. a lot of people are point out his record

jeb bush's problem is not donald trump. jeb bush's problem is jeb bush. you all need to do 7,000 word interviews on why jeb bush is mad as hell at the republican establishment and what he's going to do to change it. it's not trump that's in his way it's jeb that's in his way. >> with all that as the backdrop, donald trump continued his feud with jeb bush yesterday over the 9/11 terror attacks. yesterday morning trump tweeted quote, jeb is fighting to defend a catastrophic event. i'm fighting to make sure it doesn't happen again. jeb is too soft. we need tougher and sharper. bush responded last night. >> his view of history is just wrong. the simple fact is that when we were attacked my brother created an environment wherefore 2,600 days we were safe. nobody attacked us again. he changed laws. united the country and kept us safe. a tip of hat to that and moving on to what the threats are today is what we should focus on. >> what's your take on that? >> donald trump has proven time and time again he's gotten under jeb bush's skin. in october of 2015, the wa

i am proud to introduce the next president, jeb bush. [applause] chuck: would you remain standing for the pledge of allegiance. all: i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america. and to the republic for which it ,tands one nation, under god indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. bush: your endorsement is very meaningful. thank you for coming out and welcoming me. i am from florida. it is great to be in a place that honors the space program. it is really good to be here. [applause] if you think about it, america always has been an aspirational country, hasn't it? we have always done things that defied the imagination of the rest of the world. being able to launch -- put a man on the moon, which was the aspirational goal in the 1960's when the russians -- excuse me, soviet -- i get them confused these days because vladimir putin is acting like a soviet. when they launched the rocket into space, it lit a fire under america. we sent a man to the moon. it was an incredible engineering defeat -- feet. we do that regu

it doesn't work for jeb bush. and to your point, i actually think this would be a better role for the super pac to take on. that way they can be more hard hitting. they can be silly and immature without it tainting the candidate. i think this taints the candidate in a way that jeb bush has been trying to paint himself as above the fray. and as soon as he engages in this what i call the between twitter tantrum with donald trump. this is donald trump's turf. it doesn't work for jeb bush. and i don't think this is the right thing for him. >> trump is the best trash talker period, especially in politics in the last 20 years. do you want to go there with him? i would tell any candidate before you make that decision, can you -- is there any possibility you can actually beat donald trump up on twitter or trash talking. i'm not sure there's anybody on stage that is a better trash talker than donald trump. >> a lot of people have tried. maria, let me come to you with joe biden. getting crowds potentially key endorsements.

it was a fun moment for jeb bush. >> first of all, it was a light moment for jeb bush and that was good for him. i thought it was a great moment for chris christie who said kidding me, right? we have serious problems. and again as a republican who doesn't want to overregulate, why do we need to do that? it was a way for him to distinguish himself from jeb bush. the problem that chris christie has, and it's kind of puzzling is that he has had some great sort of moments in these debates. he just doesn't get enough time and he can't build on it once he's off the debate stage. i think it's very frustrating christie because he can sort of shine at times like this, which i would argue he did tonight. but the problem is building on it in a state like new hampshire where he's got an awful lot of competition. >> all right, stay with me everyone. when we come back, one of jeb bush's top supporters. plus debate winners and losers. the candidates come out swinging one of the main targets wasn't even on the stage tonight. how hillary clinton is reacting. yes, we are twins. when i went on to ancestry

bush, harry, you say he has gotten inside of jeb bush's head. >> you know, jeb bush was supposed to run a joyful campaign. i have to be honest, my father's funeral a month ago was just moref more joyful than this campaign has been. look at marco rubio who has a nice, steady straight line. compare that to bush who has been falling down. even his own home state to florida is forth to donald trump. >> i want everyone to take a listen. we've just turned some sound around for jeb bush tonight. >> who would you rather have the finger on the button, obama, trump, or hillary? >> look, i'd rather have the republican nominee. i'm a loyal republican. i've been that way for a long while. >> if he were to have a chance to take a direct shot at trump and he didn't take it just then. he didn't take it just then. does he need to? >> he needs to. i think he needs to. i think he was a front-runner. in many ways, people see him as a front-runner because he is a bush and because, you know, he raised all of that money. i think he needs to take on trump now. look, the way to take on donald trump i think

it's not easy for jeb bush. it seems to be a lot easier for marco rubio. >> i read that you say jeb bush's candidacy has always been flawed. how do you mean? >> well, i don't know that it's always been flawed. there's sort of a disconnect between his image nationally and in florida. in florida he was viewed as truly a bold conservative governor who got things done, pushed an agenda, had a ton of energy. national nationally, partly because the party has changed so much, he's viewed as sort of a tired guy, out of step with where the party is today and just not quite able to connect with people in a way that marco rubio is. >> was jeb bush really strong and sharp in the florida debates? >> he's never been a great debater, but that's the other thing with this race. jeb has kind of had it size. he had one tough race way back in 1994 and he lost that race. and then he had a very easy election race, outspent his opponent. so he's not used to this level of political competition. maybe he's not up to it. >> marco rubio,

>> i feel for jeb bush. because all he keeps doing is getting caught up in defending his brother's presidency, and you know, god forbid, i hate to agree with donald trump, but there were -- there were 25 different cia notices into the bush administration in the year prior to 9/11 suggesting that al qaeda was preparing to launch attacks against the u.s. now, having said that, you know, the day after 9/11, you know, even al gore, my friend and candidate, said george bush is my president. right? we united. we got together. you know, we said let's go forward here. many of us don't agree with what george bush did after that, but to keep hammering in on this 9/11 issue with donald trump. he's clearly doing it to get under jeb bush's skin and jeb bush is letting him. why isn't jeb bush answering every attack from donald trump with what he would do as president instead of actually trying to answer the question and getting caught in a quagmire of george bush's presidency. >> i mean, that is a very interesting point a

when we come back, jeb bush versus marco rubio. ♪ mark: everybody has seen the clip of jeb bush trying to slam marco rubio on the attendance record. that wasn't the only problem last night. not the only thing that made his night so atrocious. let's take a look. >> the biggest tax increase happened under the obama -- you find a democrat for cutting spending, i will give them a warm kiss. i'm 7-0 in my fantasy football league. they cannot regulate themselves, the nfl needs to look at moving away from them a little bit. there should be some regulation. i have no clue whether the government is the proper place. my instinct is to say, hell no. >> [indiscernible] >> are we talking about getting the government involved in fantasy football? we have $19 trillion in debt, people out of work, isis and al qaeda attacking us, and we are talking about fantasy football? john: so that was chris christie showing how jeb bush should've answered that question. break it down for me what you thought was so bad. mark: the big moment with marco rubio was a disaster but he talked less than anybody. he was not

you seen it impact jeb bush. he's extremely helpful to her. >> paul, the reporting from new york magazine tonight saying that it's really a matter of when vice president gets in, not if. i know you're going to try and bob and weave and quote biblical passage because you have a biblical passage by everything. i'm impressed by this. >> i'm a person of faith. >> i know you are. i know you are. do you have a gut feeling if he's going to run? >> no, here is the thing, honestly because i don't know. i know as a general matter, i speak more loudly and certainly when i'm pristinely ignoranigno. i don't doubt he has what it takes to be president. i mean that. i think joe biden would be a great president. who no one knows, even joe is does he have what it takes to run for president? >> here is my question, why wouldn't he run for president? obviously, look, there is the personal loss that he and his family experienced, the worst kind of loss there possibly is but this is what politics do. they run for things and if he does

he has eight and jeb bush has 24. that's a metric to look at to see if marco rubio could capitalize on what was a big night for him. >> bush understands the issues and he can't articulate them and he's petulant and that doesn't work. the most impressive answer is when rubio brought up vocational education. he's deep into what is going on policy-wise. kasich really understands of the issues, but he can't get his message across in this debate format effectively enough i think to capture the imagination of voters because he's really substantive in a way that's presidential. >> interesting. >> i agree. marco rubio had a great night. i think carly also had another great debate performance. we'll see where she goes with it after this. i thought john kasich, saw a different john kasich than we've seen before and that will benefit him but i thought it was a great night for the party. i thought the party looked substantive and looked real and issues-oriented and finally uniting around the real opponent which is the democrat an

money for jeb bush. he can't make that argument that no one's trying to control him, because he needs to raise money from big donors. >> he absolutely can make the argument and he's made it to donald trump himself, who was one of the big donors back when jeb bush was governor and he wanted casino gambling passed in florida and jeb bush opposed casino gambling in florida. and i've been a supporter and donor of jeb bush's for a very long time. and he, at times, opposed things that i wanted. so, you know, the people that invest in your campaign doesn't necessarily mean that you are controlled by them. >> so in terms of the overall money, $13.4 million for jeb bush. we'll contrast that to donald trump, who had $3.9, without trying. jeb bush, trying very far. $13.4 million. ben carson, $20 million. ted cruz, $12 million. these are numbers we have there for the top fund-raisers. has it gotten harder for you, ana? this is a real direct question. has it gotten harder, as his poll numbers have come down to raise

especially if you're jeb bush? you know you have failed and now all of a sudden the stakes are even higher. that often is not a situation where people are successful. >> well, i think that the pressure of debates in quick succession is something that they have to become accustomed to and jeb is extraordinarily bright and i think you are going to see some more sparks. as max says, you know, you don't flag your ambush ahead of time for your opponent. and i think that's what happened here. the jeb folks put out that they were going to raise the stakes. marco was completely ready for it. it's something they can't afford to do that, that particular mistake again. >> thanks very much rick mack for your time. "outfront," marco rubio say he pounced jeb bush. with solid debate performances and rising poll numbers is marco rubio for real? >>> plus, donald trump claiming victory in last night's debate. will that be enough to push his poll numbers back over ben carson? >>> and a deadly showdown. an "outfront" exclusive at this

so jeb bush, you're on the mic. >> jeb bush responded on twitter, quote, how pathetic for donald trump to criticize the president for 9/11. we were attacked and my brother kept us safe. >> trevor: oh!debate fingers tur fingers. that doesn't really make sense though. we were attacked and my brother kept us safe. do you know how that sounds? it's not really correct. it's like saying i am black-out drunk and totally cool to drive. i lost your children, and this field trip was a success. it's one or the other. it can't be both. that's what i'm saying, it can't be both. but bush called trump pathetic. all trump will have to do to win this fight is do anything not pathetic. >> then he tweeted, no, jeb bush, you're pathetic for saying nothing happened during your brother's term when the world trade center was attacked and came down. >> do you blame george w bush for 9/11? >> look, look, jeb said we were safe with my brother, we were safe. well, the world trade center just fell down. now am i trying to blame him. i'm not blaming anybody. but the world traild center came down. so when he said w

>> because jeb bush is living his campaign in the past tense. he is acting as if this thing is about the past. you talked about the event he will have tonight. it is about here is what i did 11 years ago. let me go to the oldest county in florida. the optics are i got us through the time of devastation. when the media goes there they see people devastated by the time. people want the future and not the past. jeb bush is not giving it to them. >> what are you hearing in the miami political circles? are they starting to think seeing if they are going to start hedging the bets? >> my phone started ringing the night of the debate from rubio people who are happy to stir the waters and say we are going to get a bunch of jeb people. they don't see jeb people as voters but see jeb donors. there have been a lot of rumors running around. we haven't heard of a big fish jumping just yet. >> this is the other part of the campaign. it has been potential. that's what it has been. it's like a vc. >> rubio is all about moments without momentum. he is going to mo

they stayed, they did not get up during jeb bush's speech. they were engaged and afterwards he actually got mobbed by supporters, spent 30 minutes with them shaking hands, signing autographs, but that reception is certainly despite the realities on the ground here for the bush campaign. he has not invested a lot of time in this state, and a strategy memo that was leaked this week outlining the bush campaign strategy really admits as much saying that they are much more focused on places like new hampshire, south carolina, over here in iowa. and it was interesting, though, when bush took the stage he really noted his low poll numbers here in the state and really brushed aside poll numbers in general. here's how he opened his speech earlier today. >> you know, poll numbers go up and they go down. iowa proves that in every caucus, and when they go down, you don't insult iowa voters, because they are the same discerning voters whether your polls are going up or down, you learn from iowa voters, so it is a joy to be here. >> reporter: certainly try

round of bad jeb bush news. and that much bigger story as we sort of saw coming last night is that the republican candidates for president have collectively decided to blow up the republican primary process. ta-da. we did see this coming a little bit last night when candidate ben carson said he was calling the other candidates together to demand new moderators and a new process for the republican debates here on out. politico then reported late last night that all of the campaigns or almost all of the campaigns would be meeting in washington this sunday night to basically go on strike. you think about, it what's happened here is the republican presidential campaigns, all of them, this giant group of candidates, they have basically decided to walk out on the rnc. they're walk out on the republican party and instead saying they're going to organize their own debate as candidates. the republican primary process of nominating that party's presidential candidate, the candidates have decided they don't like the republ

is jeb bush more experienced than you are? >> i think there are people running that have more experience on the issues we faced 35 years ago, 25 years ago or 15 years ago. when it comes to the issues before america in the 21st century, there's no one running that understands them or has shown better judgment on them than i have, and it's one of the main reasons i'm running. so, when people run for the presidency or any office, they will say things because they think it gives them a competitive advantage, and that's fine. i understand the politics of it, but that's not what the campaign is about for me. i'm going to tell people who i am and why i'm running and what i'll do. >> let's turn the corner. you want people to get to know you better. so, look, i know two things about you. your favorite sport is football. >> yeah. >> and your favorite team has to be the dolphins. >> yeah, and the florida gators. >> what do you want to be growing up? >> i wanted to be either a football player, football coach or sports broadcaster. >> and

senior adviser to jeb bush. we appreciate your time. >> jeb bush is the focus of today's gut check. with 71% of voters saying it's too early to commit to any one candidate. do you think jeb bush has a cha chance at this? and you can watch the debate, your money, your vote on cnbc tonight at 8:00 eastern time. >>> up next, more debate headlines. why a major florida newspaper says senator marco rubio is "ripping us off" a and should resign." >>> and this -- >> join the fight for higher incomes. join the fight. >>> this is one of the campaign ads hillary clinton will be running during tonight's republican debate. more on clinton's new offensive as she hits the trail in new hampshire today. >>> and developing now, new fallout for the school resource officer seen throwing a high school student to the floor. sources now tell nbc he will be taken off the job. a live report is coming up. [ m] whether it takes 200,000 parts, ♪ 800,000 hours of supercomputing time, 3 million lines of code, 40,000 sets of eyes, or a million sleepless nights. whether it's building the world's most advanced sa

jeb bush: yes. progressivep being because the capital gains tax rate is less than all the tax rates and mostly rich people stock market, so they have less taxable income. so due to that the rich people end up paying less taxes and it end up being regressive. so the one, you'retion is talking a lot about rich people creating jobs, okay, so that's -- brought thataven't up today, but people with that have money normally create more people that don't. jobs,y're going to create reach people don't cray jobs, right, but that doesn't happen, why, because rich people insist in the stock market. what are you going to do to notntivize rich people to invest in the stock market but to invest in the economy and create jobs? two, what specifically are you going to do to close tax people?r rich my last part -- i got a three part. it's two and a half. poor people can make their own decisions. i'm asking you, one, do you think a cultural poverty exists and if you do not think a culture of poverty exists then how come

jeb bush or his people. mark: i'm not surprised casey is not well known in iowa. the super pac's meant millions on ads. he has gone up and down in the polls. it is amazing the lack of awareness and lack of support for him in new hampshire. john: let's look at one less piece of video from the groups. a snippet of the alternative, on the rise candidates. >> i think he could be a good president. i think he is conservative. his command of the facts is better than other candidates running. >> what is the source of his appeal? >> his ability to cut to the core of most issues. >> senator marco rubio. >> honest, straightforward. >> young, energetic, honest, conservative. >> statesman. >> new ideas, innovative. >> i think he is young blood but inexperienced. >> how many of you have doubt marco rubio based on his age and relative inexperience is ready to be president? about half of you. >> i think he could make a good president. but i don't think the time is right. >> i think of him almost as a better candidate for vi

was jeb bush's problem. he had plenty of time he just had to make that time matter and. >> you got to make that. you got to seize it. >> thanks to you. >>> the big moment last night came at jeb bush's peril. a tweet, jeb bush could eat carbs now. as you may know bush went on a paleodiet to get into shape. but many agree he showed little stamina last night. >> you friend and ours said she's feeling glum tonight because of the performance that you had and. >> i'm running for president of the united states. i'm running for president of the united states. i'm running with heart. i'm not a performer. if they are looking for entertainer in chief i'm probably the probably not the guy. but if they are looking for results, i'm their guy. >> with me now to talk about all of this, larry sambado from the university of virginia. and also i'm joined by cnn political director david challion. david i've heard it more than once. jeb bush does not have the heart to rupp fn for president. he doesn't have that mean streak. is h

jeb bush, why have your numbers fallen? how about talking about the substantive issues people care about? [ cheers and applause ] >> well, that may have seemed like a spontaneous outpouring fueled by the crowd's response. there were plenty of indications before the debate it was more like a preordained strategy. for example, this tweet from donald trump yesterday morning, "after a great evening and packed auditorium in iowa, i am now in colorado looking forward to what i am sure will be a very unfair debate." okay. or a pretty revealing blind item in politico's playbook yesterday that a lot of people missed. look at this. "look for the candidates to push back harder on the moderators than in previous debates. one of the debate preppers told us i think you're going to hear a lot of, well, we didn't see any of this tit for tat that time in the democrat debate." something else that was foretold long ago before the candidates took the stage last night, jeb bush's attack on marco rubio over his record-setting absences in the sen

bush to again jab at jeb. >> i don't want jeb bush to say my brother kept us safe because september 11th was one of the worst days in the history of this country. >> my brother responded to a crisis and he did it as you would hope a president would do. he unite the country. >> reporter: the fight got started friday when trump threw the first punch. >> when you talk about george bush, say what you want, the world trade center came down during his time. >> hold on, you can't blame george bush. >> he was president. don't blame him or don't blame him but he was president. >> reporter: the front-runner argued his immigration policies would have prevented the attack. >> i believe if i were running things i doubt those families would have, i doubt those people would have been in the country. >> reporter: but bush hit back. >> it looks as though he's an actor playing the role of a candidate for president, mr. trump talks about things that as though he's still on "the apprentice." >> reporter: characteristically trump wanted the last word tweeting "jeb, why did your brother attack and destabilize

paul ryan is going as eddie monster and jeb bush is going as former presidential candidate jeb bush. >> i don't believe them. >> that's cold. >> it's freezing. >> so cold you're having to wear that purple thing. >> okay, i won't. >> good morning, happy friday. >> it is friday. tomorrow's halloween. are the kids excited? >> very excited. we got a sumo wrestler and a green m and m in our house. what are your kids? >> katy is being a football player and yak the old try and true ninja. >> not ninja turtle. new cartoon network. >> there are actually 13 people out there our age that know exactly. i'm right there with you. with us this morning we have eugene robin son and washington anchor. good to have you both. >> mika, so much what happens in presidential politics, you have dorks and dweebs that are really smart and went the really good schools and they're trying to figure out why one candidate is losing. why sometimes the smart guys, smart women don't make it and others that have a gut instinct get it and win it. i always said when i campaigned, before the candidates said the first word

. >> how about jeb bush. on the other day, you were about him, too. >> if we issued a warning to candidates that if they embrace donald trump's rhetoric, we're going to call him out. we're going to have the next meeting in nevada right before the republican debate in nevada. and we're going to see how the candidates are doing. >> here's the thing. mitt romney went to the right. it hepped him secure the nomination and helped cost him the election, or so the pundits say. is the gop putting igts in that same position this time around? >> yeah, i think it's a tough situation. but 27% of the hispanic vote is not terrible for a republican in this climate, especially where you have so many people who are taking this issue and turning it into a devicive wedge issue and trying to -- and accusing people of being racist. >> the problem with the gop nominee is the white voting population is shrinking. and the hispanic population is growing. and the african american population is voting overwhelmingly democrat. so they ne

mark: jeb bush is not a shock and awe type of campaigning. if you said he would have a quarter where he laid substantially less than ben carson that would be a problem. for hillary clinton, to be a strong fundraising candidate you can't just be a strong donation candidate, she needs to do better on the internet. john: that burn rate is scary. 86% burn rate. you are spending all that money. 13.2 would be a respectful number if you weren't spending at all. he is spending it at his numbers are going down. it looked like a pretty good number for him. if you dig into the detail that dig into the details that number doesn't look nearly as good. mark: you have a clinton campaign and bush super pac spending all this on tv. if they are spending the bulk of the money on ads and they aren't actually helping them improve, somebody messed up. john: let's not forget marco rubio. he has been supposedly playing the hot hand. he is the establishment guys who can knock off trump. he spent $5.7 million. doesn't look impressive to me. they had a bad q3. mark: co

them say. >> jeb bush is having none of th that argument. here he is with our own jake tapper. >> my brother responded to a crisis and did it as you hope a a president would do. united the country, organized the country and kept us safe. there's no denying that. the great majority of americans believe that. i don't know why he keeps bringing this up. it doesn't show he's a serious person as it relates to being commander-in-chief and being the architect of a foreign policy. the spectrum of foreign policy, he talks about things as though he's still on "the apprentice." talking about syria saying russia should take out assad as if it was a board game. this is just another example of the lack of seriousness and this is a serious time. we're under grave threats again. i think we need a president with a steady hand. >> let's go to dana bash. let me ask you that very question. what do you think donald trump has to gain politically by going there and dredging up 9/11 and intelligence and george w. bush? >> remember back a month ago at cnn's presiden

the governor was jeb bush. proven conservative. real results. jeb. right to rise usa is responsible for the content of this message. >> according to politico, in the key early state of new hampshire bush and right to rise have spent at least $4.8 million to support bush since early september. the results -- bush's numbers have actually moved down in the granite state from 9% to 8.7%. bush is reportedly now cutting back on spending staying at cheaper hotels, often flying commercial, and traversing iowa not in a private plane as he did in august but by car. and in a pretty depressing development for the one-time favorite ben carson who is pulling ahead of bush and easily outraised him last quarter has decided ton do any more campaign events until the next gop debate so he can focus on selling his book. bush is now losing badly to a guy who at the moment isn't even bothering to campaign. can jeb bush be saved? that's next. when a moment turns romantic why pause to take a pill? or stop to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use is approved to treat both er

what he did with that's tack on george bush is, number one, he got under jeb bush's skin. the guy is a natural provacateur. >> jeb isn't challenging him now is he trying to knock him out early? >> sure. he made jeb bush's family the subject of this. what is the one thing bush has been trying to avoid? talking about his family, reminding people he is a bush. >> it also gave jeb bush opening to get into a fight with donald trump which gets him into headlines which he hasn't been 3 1/2 weeks. >> who is going to take his side? >> he comes in defending the republican establishment. interesting establishment to say he was a pretty good president. >> right. >> not a clown or disaster. >> it's the bush family. it's father bush, son bush. there is something to be said for jeb bush to say you can stand by my name and trust us. right? >> see how well that holds up. brand-new nbc/"wall street journal" poll shows trump continuing to lead the republican field of candidates. trump gets the support of 25%. ben carson is close behind at 22%. they are followed by marco rubio at 13%. jeb bus