kasich: eggs. mark: how many calories? mr. kasich: i don't think about it. i don't know. mark: when will you eat next? mr. kasich: i don't know. i'm not hungry. she's young. she's got years. not that you don't have years. mark: you did a little flick at the former governor of florida. mr. kasich: they are there bragging that they are in there investigating me. come on. mark: do you look at other candidates' records? mr. kasich: none that i know at this point. we're certainly not going into their libraries and archives. i mean, i guess at some point we will probably do that, but it seems a little early for that. maybe not. mark: before you did that today, did you check with anybody on your team? mr. kasich: no, i did not check with anybody. mark: what are the hardest jobs you've had? mr. kasich: the hardest for me, and i guess on any job, is when, you know, i think i am sort of born natural to be -- i mean, i think i was sort of born or raised or whatever to be a leader, and whenever i'm in a position i cannot lead, it's really hard for me. mark: what is interesting about

kasich: i did. it's my pleasure this morning to join senator johnson and her peter thompson and so many other public officials and private officials around the state and extending my endorsement to governor john kasich of ohio in his campaign for the office of president -- join senator john sununu and peter thompson. >> this is a big deal to have gordon humphrey and peter thompson. i would like to call on the president of the united states and the leadership in the congress of the united states to create sanctuaries, safe havens , perhaps along the jordanian border, perhaps along the border with turkey, where we would create no-fly zones. think other candidates are seeing you as a major threat? mr. kasich: what is interesting to me is they are kind of writing about the nfl library. it's really cool. they set up my old congressional , and now they have material from me being governor and all that. i love and people visit that library. i just never expected was people to be directed to that library, b

kasich: no question. first of all, i don't want to get too much into what i'm going to say on thursday. come down to the community college and you will see more. but as we move things out of washington and move them back to the states -- i will give you one example. we have 100 separate -- it may be more than 100 separate programs in k through 12 education that comes with springs -- strings from washington. i propose we'll bundle them up, send them to the states and you're in charge. then we've eliminated all this red tape, strings, bureaucracy and everything else. then you can run it from here and not from washington, right? so as you begin to shift these programs out, you begin to deal with what you're talking about, which is all the strings and the bureaucracy. here's the other thing, i don't think we should hire any more federal workers. when people retire, don't fill their jobs. in ohio, we have the lowest number of state employees in 30 years. we didn't do it by firing anyone. you really don't want

kasich: thank you. [applause] >> our second student is a communications major and she has from -- amanda? good morning governor kasich. my question also involves social security. according to various news sources such as washington times, new york times, and washington examiner, social security disability payments will run up by the year 2016. you said some people will have to "get over social security cuts." what about citizens who have paid into their social security their entire life. how will you assure them that they will be taking care of? the area of in social security disability, to have been a lot of shows, including 60 minutes, that have talked about this program. of course, when some it is disabled that they have to be in a position where they did help, but we have to make sure that people aren't able to just approach the legal system to get them to go out and try to qualify for something that they really shouldn't be on, so we have to look at so security disability. my mind is not closed on

i believe that person is john kasich. ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to introduce my personal friend john kasich. [applause] turnsasich: the man who surpluses into deficits. [laughter] he was the guy that stuck it to you. can you take that phone. if it is my wife, i will take it. if it is the president, i will call him back. [laughter] gov. kasich: just kidding, mr. president. this is really nice. john is a great friend. he talked to me about the fact that i should do this, run for president. i do not really think i would. many of you will say, we don't really know that much about him or we haveever heard of him. i was kind of taking care of business in ohio and it was really a mess. 20% of our operating budget -- it would be like blowing a hole in your take-home pay. all to policy, i will tell you a quick story, which some of my reporter friends in ohio are tired of hearing. i grew up in a little blue-collar town outside of pittsburgh. the steelers won last night, by the way. i don't know how you feel about it.

but john kasich did not say women are less skilled than men. governor kasich: no. i didn't say that. staff, the first time a governor brought a woman and to be the new chief of staff. she is now running my campaign. the lady i mentioned running mental health and drug addiction, she is doing a good job heading our welfare reform. i believe having women in the room having a big voice makes you better. if you have an exclusion of them you're not as effective. i am saying for all people, skills matter. host: let's talk about trade. ushcc hasssue the worked on has been trade and specifically the transpacific partnership. considering that 98% of u.s. businesses that do export are actually small businesses, which have accounted for nearly two thirds of new jobs in recent decades, we think access to more markets abroad is a good thing for the entrepreneurs we represent. being a state that somewhat say has been hurt from portrayed deals in the past, i would like to hear your thoughts of tpp on future trade deals under president caskasich. governor kasich: i think it is impo

kasich: no question. first of all, i don't want to get too much into what i'm going to say on thursday. come down to the community college and you will see more. but as we move things out of washington and move them back to the states -- i will give you one example. we have 100 separate -- it may be more than 100 separate programs in k through 12 education that comes with springs -- strings from washington. i propose we'll bundle them up, send them to the states and you're in charge. then we've eliminated all this red tape, strings, bureaucracy and everything else. then you can run it from here and not from washington, right? so as you begin to shift these programs out, you begin to deal with what you're talking about, which is all the strings and the bureaucracy. here's the other thing, i don't think we should hire any more federal workers. when people retire, don't fill their jobs. in ohio, we have the lowest number of state employees in 30 years. we didn't do it by firing anyone. you really don't want

kasich: that' s good for them. i' i only got in this race -- when you think about it, it seems like two years ag it was a little bit over two months, and it is working. we are doing better in i i e p tier in new hampshire. and if i get crushed here, it is probably over. i have to do my best here and in iowa. we are building in other ste but this is pivotal for me, no question. josh m.: we have about a minute to go. as you go through the process the next couple of months, you put a high emphasis on new hampshire. you still have a day job in ohio. gov. kasich: that' s why we have cell phones and faxes. i still go home. that' s my number one job. ohio is up 347,000 jobs. listened to. it is a complete turnaround. that' s part of the reason why i know i he the skills to shake of the system, but -- shake up the system, but deliver the josh m.: so, moving forward, do starting to pay more attention and move away from the theater? bit. s lips are moving, they must be lying. the reason i talk about my record of balancing the

tom: yes, kasich was right to point that out. but at the same time, look, with hillary clinton's plans, with the expanding state, with more spending. at some point you to have tax at lower levels. if interest rates go up because of that pressure -- let's have a mass debate and that's why i think paul ryan is good. pat: they have a flat tax and they're talking flat tax because politically that has enormous appeal to the republican base and the entire republican party. supply siders, and pop lewis. that's why they have six flat taxes. john: mike huckabee, he called these plans, the tax arrangements that were mentioned here and you've tried to discuss. these plans are "putting lipstick on a pig." and told cnbc he would promote replacing income tax and the end of the i.r.s. with a higher sales tax. what do you think of that? tom: honestly, i'm happy for huckabee because this is the guy -- i don't get it. he has very little credibility. and i would prefer that we had a system where the tax code is massive live -- massively simplified

john kasich put out his tax plan. he cut taxes for businesses and the wealthiest bracket, eliminated the state tax, and balanced the budget within eight years. here is how he framed it at a national community college and new hampshire. john kasich: i will immediately put us on a path to a balanced budget and i will get it done within eight years. within the first 100 days we will have that plan to balance the budget. and to keep it balanced i will start the process to amend our constitution to require washington to balance its budget every single year, like states and families in america. mark: we're going to bring in our -- he has written a lot of taxes, tell us what you think about his tax plan as a matter of policy. how: -- al: i make great fan of john kasich, as you know. this is voodoo economics. he proposed something very similar 17 years ago in the house when he was the budget committee chairman. we had a $1.5 trillion surplus. he said an act of this tax cut and we will still have a surplus. it led to endless d

governor kasich as well. competing for a lot of the same money and a lot of florida donors friends with both of them going to jeb first but they are saying come on, governor, you're the front-runner and show us the fight to be in this. he's had to make the rubio is obama argument, why do we want to send another freshman senator to washington. he's not ready to be president. that could be a stronger argument. republicans have argued for the past seven years that obama wasn't ready for the job. rubio's attendance issue may well be a factor in the campaign but in the debate tonight game, set, match. >> and i want to bring in jeffrey lord, trump supporter and a former ted cruz contributor and writer. >> could somebody please just get me that tequila. >> and donna brazile. >> i'm going to give her the marijuana. >> ana, you can't dodge it any longer. how do you think your guy did tonight? >> i think the mets are doing very, very well tonight. i do hear that the kansas city royals are up. look, i want to tell, you

i think that kasich tonight, i think, made the strongest case for a financial house in order. of course, you're right. he's talking about ohio, and ohio has to balance the budget. he's done that, but he has the numbers at that back him up and the jobs. whether he -- it's because of the natural gas they've got and some of the economic boom they had and trump attacked him for that. nonetheless, kasich can point to some real economic cause and effect and some of the budget matters in his own state that prove logical. he's saying he's going to bring that to the federal government. there's a really big problem with that. the state of ohio is not trying to run a 2 million person military. the state of ohio doesn't have to pay off the national debt. so it's much, much more complicated than this. it's very good to talk about it. i think they're on the right track. they should be talking about and much more of it. that's going to be fascinating when we start to see the republicans and democrats go at one another. again, it's bro mine territory a little bit. they're saying this and it's

and kasich yesterday. and they both tried to bring that to this debate tonight and they both got whacked. >> didn't they deliver their sunday punch a day before? >> that's exactly what they did. and they both got whacked. we talked about trump. yes, he disappeared at times, but i could make a case that of the three debates, this was trump's best debate. he's not been good at these debates. he was down right awful. >> where was he good tonight? putting away kasich. >> intimidating. i think he's a factual disaster on his hands when he just full fledged denial and bullied becky quick in that initial answer where he was just flat-out lying. either that or he didn't read his own plan. but he owned the moment. as a performer, he was better tonight than he'd been the first two nights. i think trump is going to pay a big price for this down the road for literally not knowing what was on his own website in that thing. but as a performer, stylistically. >> you look at the trump base, blue collar, economically down s

kasich: that's nice. all right, we got to go. >> [indiscernible] governor kasich: you did? we have to get you to help us. >> what has been your biggest bipartisan accomplishment while being governor? gov. kasich: a number of them. transportation was a really big one. human trafficking was another big one. i could give you the whole long list but there are tons of them we have been able to do together. it is really important. in the the partisanship state of ohio a lot different when i was in politics back before i got out of politics. it is getting better now in ohio. we had just yesterday a former leader, she was up here actually holding a basic -- holding a .ohn kasich sign this is an effort where you plug together on a lot of things. started to figure out how we would improve transportation, none of them liked it, and now they are all the fathers of the idea and that is perfectly fine with me. >> your message to new hampshire voters -- gov. kasich: let me give you one of the thing, and that was the unanimous vote on fighting the problem of drug abuse in our state. >> you

amanda: thank you governor kasich. [applause] >> our third student is a liberal arts major who hails from nashua. [applause] nate: you served six years as -- as chairman balancing the ohio budget. would you consider modifying the code and getting rid of loopholes? to. kasich: we always want look at provisions in the code that were put there by special interest groups. i used to save we can reform welfare for pork people -- for poor people we ought to reform welfare for rich people. sometimes those loopholes are legitimately loopholes and sometimes they are not such as the research credit. you have to scour everything. every single program . you have to remember every pope -- every program has something that supports it. in the yellowit pages, does government needed to do it? can we make it work better, more effectively? you just go through all of that. everything gets looked at appropriately. the time you come off the moral high ground is where it is pretty hard to lead. we will look at everything, including these kind

if you are john kasich. you are looking for an opening, throwing your hands up, saying, look, this is ridiculous, trying to find a way to perhaps appeal to establishment types, more moderate republicans, but jeb bush is also going to be looking for that kind of opening, marco rubio has done perhaps the best out of the more experienced politicians lately. he has been willing to take on trump, perhaps he's willing to take on carson, too. lindsay graham, who is not going to be on the main stage made some comments similar to kasichs, sort of throwing his hands up, saying what's going on here? so, yeah, with the iowa caucuses, a little more than three months out at this point. you will see other candidates who have been slowly building, finally starting to get a bit more compass prated, a bit more willing to sort of go negative. >> quickly on the democratic side of the race, many of you may have been sleeping or watching baseball. she was essentially asked, which candidate she would rather face or which one she c

is kasich missing opportunity here? but supply-siders are telling you he is not doing it enough. >> no, he is not. when trump eliminates axes for lower class. the majority of cuts go to the higher class. that starts a all the class envy. he is more bullish. betting on significant up take in economy and consumer spending. trying to freeze government spending. i'm not only going to freeze it but i will reduce it and take a shane saw to -- chainsaw to eliminate waste. trump's plan wins hand over fifth. trish: trump is saying he will grow the economy. tax foundation saying roughly 11% gdp growth, that would be enormous where we've been under donald trump. but at the same time he is talking about cutting the waste out of big government. and that is actually where he is going to be able to bridge this gap because right now, the research also indicates, as kasich pointed out, that he is about $10 trillion in the hole over a 10-year period with this tax plan, scotty. >> they say that others looked at it, we know there is a lot

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why do you think kasich did that and will it help him? >> he's trying to present himself as the conservative re former who has gotten it done and can do it in the future. a few problems. one, substantive. the math can work on a low flat tax rate system. >> maybe not 10%. but 20 or something like that. >> i would say even in the teens. you look at cruz and rand paul. they basically collect the revenue with essentially value-added tax on business. >> right. >> the point is it can be done. this is not an impossible idea to have a low flat tax rate system. the economics are flawed. more than that, it is a muddled message to the electorate saying i'm the conservative re formaler who got it done. he lays out the liberal positions and the voter is left to wonder what they are getting here. >> the other thing about kasich's broad side is it wasn't so much aimed at carson and trump but at some ways at the voters saying, wake up, people! you're out of it! get with it! that's not necessarily the way to get them. >> both bush and kasich are frustrate

kasich will return to new hampshire sometime next week. jean: candidate jeb bush downed a roundtable discuss on preventing domestic violence in concord this morning. representatives from law enforcement, government and advocacy groups gathered to discuss how to work together. the former florida governor described ways his administration worked to ebb the addiction cries is in his state. bush says domestic violence and addiction many times go hand in hand. tom: coming up on news 9 at 6:00 tonight, the concord high school community coming together to support their principal. the fundraiser they have planned as he fights a.l.s. mike: it's another haunted thursday and tonight we're at haunted overload in lee. we'll talk about the three levels of fear here coming up. >> our home town heros are at the top of the high school in the state. jean: friends of concord high school's principal are holding a fund raising walk on saturday. tom: money from the two mile walk will go to gene conley's family, he was diagnosed with a.l.s. last year. he is no l

rubio is calling for a non-legacy candidate during kasich is saying his record is -- and kasich is saying that his record is better than both of theirs. who has the upper hand? mark: i think rubio does. he's picking up a lot of support from scott walker financial and grassroots. so far, no one has, i think, convince the electorate that he's too young, too inexperienced to be president, but i would say that is going to be the real test. butjust kashich and bush, trump also is already doing it. they are going to come hard after rubio on that, knock him out for being too young. john: i agree with you. i think there's an additional reason why rubio has the hot hand. both bush and kasich are trying to run straightforward establishment campaigns in the traditional mould. they are not going to be playing in the anti-establishment lane or tea party lane. rubio, because of his roots, has a slightly broader potential base. he could appeal to establishment republicans and grassroots conservatives in a way that bush and kasich can't. maybe in the long run, his lack of experience and his youth and his

you are here for kasich. when does kasich think this will get serious? >> i think he thinks it is becoming serious now, that things are beginning to shake out in a way differently than they were even a couple of weeks ago. and we will see a lot of that happen now through kearse. >> we have got senator lindsey graham joining us now, fresh from the fight. senator graham, have a seat. you just gave a speech, we just watched it, so we can't resist it. >> bob, how are you doing? >> this fella here is backing a guy in the front right now, he likes the way things are going, right? >> great. >> 50%. 50% of the republican voters are saying they like these two outsiders, mavericks, who never held office, that's carson and of course, trump. when is the other 50% going to be heard from? >> here's what i hope will happen, that we will nominate somebody who can win, 'cause winning matters. >> does that matter to the people out there voting? >> yes. >> it matters to me, because i don't want hillary clinton to be the next commander in chief. i think our foreign policy i

kasich came to richmond to pander to retired republicans. he could gain points by belittling me and my peers, so that's what he did. she continues to write, in a half hearted attempt to connect with young voters, kasich entered the town hall forum with the hit song shut up and dance with me blasting from the speakers. while my friends all found it out of place, i realized that the song's title accurately reflects kasich's message to young voters. shut up and elect me. i didn't go to a town hall forum for taylor swift tickets, governor kasich. i went because it's my civic duty to be an informed voter. please start treating me like one. >>> it's decision day on capitol hill, where house republicans will meet in just a few hours to decide their nominee for speaker. majority leader kevin mccarthy is favored to win, despite comments he made last week about the benghazi committee targeting hillary clinton's poll numbers. yesterday the conservative house freedom caucus, which counts for about three dozen members, decided to back congressman daniel

mark: anybody have three words for john kasich? anybody have strong feelings about john kasich? >> intelligent but no chance. [laughter] >> when governor kasich talks about having been chairman of the budget committee in congress and washington, two-term governor of ohio, does anybody find that appealing? three of you find that appealing. >> i think he has done a good job changing in the economy and creating jobs to an extent. here is my biggest thing. i'm sorry, guys. i'm tired of the same politicians saying the same thing over and over again and every debate is the same. we are going to do this and this, and nothing gets done. >> i think he would get caught up in the same old politics as usual. >> why don't you find him appealing? >> glorified accountant basically. >> everything he has done has not changed a thing. he has been in that game with all the accounting. he has been in the thick of it. he's part of the problem. >> chris christie? >> he is there. [laughter] >> who thinks governor christie has a good chance to win the primary? raise your hand. nobody. >> he is intellig

supporter of john kasich. and carly fiorina's campaign manager. ♪ >> one guy that says we ought to take 10 million people and pick them up -- where are we going to -- we are going to take them up and take them to the border and scream at them to get out of our country? that is just crazy. we have people proposing health care reform that will leave millions of people without adequate health insurance. what has happened to our party? what has happened to the conservative movement? john kasich is madder than a mets fan at kauffman stadium last night. last night -- fraudulent or genuine? >> certainly not fake. this is a question of comparing and contrasting policy. let too many people go out there with policy that is completely ridiculous. never going to happen. deporting 12 million people, that will never happen in america. -- why not name the candidate? i just don't understand. john: i don't know. it is more about the policy. that is probably why. personalityt about and who has the experience to implement poli

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you see in john kasich, this is more tactical than pure frustration. there is no doubt he is frustrated. he is going to denounce what he sees as superficiality of the race. chris christie, rand paul, carly , mike huckabee, they need to dominate the floor. that acognized moderators will be unlikely to give them equal time. they have to fight their way in. john: i'm interested to see what happens with john kasich, because of the fact that his situation seems to be deteriorating, not gaining ground in new hampshire. the other person is carly fiorina, who won the last debate . she has had a good time since then in the last month. in the polls, she went up and down. what would she do tonight for the encore? now, for something completely different. democrats. mark and i both had pieces in bloomberg.com. his was ill clinton getting involved in securing superdelegates for his wife. mine is all about the bernie sanders campaign and how it plans to take that woman down. that discussion provoked hillary clinton in new hampshire, where she said "we are all on the

would say, rubio, kasich, and cruz is the correct answer. thank you, matt welch, s.c.kupp and bob beckel. bob, i want to ask you about your memoir. i have read it. it is not the typical book by a pol. >>> and something you don't want to miss. cnn's special report, "bush v. gore: the endless election," with cnn analyst gore i canlori. >>> also coming up, tuesday is election day. in my home county, the top election issue is bill cosby. i'm about to explain why. hold the phone. because at&t and directv are now one! which means you can access your dvr at the dmv. change channels while he changes pants. you don't have to be a couch potato, you can be a train potato! and let them watch all the shows they love, inside the ride that you really kind of hate. introducing the all in one plan. only from directv and at&t. can turn dinner time, into bonding time.d meal that's why she roasts tender white meat chicken to perfection and mixes freshly-made pasta in an alfredo sauce made-from-scratch with parmesan, romano and real cream. ♪ because marie call

kasich is a threat to bush. you see kasich coming out in a very confrontational way talking about trump and carson and the effect of the republican party. if he is the louder voice as a moderate republican on stage and he overpowers bush in terms of that pitch that could be a problem for bush, as well. >> after what he said yesterday john kasich raised the bar for his performance. he has to come and say to their faces. >> reporter: i spoke to kasich's campaign is kasich going to bring that same pointed message to the debate stage. they said of course he will. we will see. it will be a test tonight. will kasich do it? >> a big test for him. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> and coming up, developing news in the house. paul ryan has officially been nominated for speaker of the house. could his support for the controversial budget deal hurt him with conservatives. hillary clinton won't be on stage tonight at the republican debate but viewers will still hear from her. why she is running ads during breaks. â

kasich doing a bus tour already. tells me they must have the largest organization in new hampshire right now on the republican side, is that fair to say? >> in terms of people, it's not fair to say. he does have a strong staff here. jeb bush has 11 people. john kasich has a staff of seven people in new hampshire, but that's still more than four or five people, which is the number of people on the staff that most of the other republicans have here. but he does have a strong team, he's supported by gordon humphrey and he's counting on new hampshire to do well. >> we talked about all the traditional candidates have staff here. carson and trump, what's their staff look like? trump's campaign manager lives here, but what's the staff look like? >> both of those campaigns do have a lot of staff here. trump is starting to add a couple people. carson is on the ground too. they're at a lot of other events that i see all the time. if you're going to republican conventions or other republican events, they are on the ground here.

>> i think john kasich. he was the one who talked about his ability to demonstrate his success already. trump got a lig naggi-- little nagging. his numbers are high doesn't mean he was the most dem stif. >> who was the loser? >> ben cruz. qualified loss because he showed he still doesn't have a grasp of the details. the way the race is going it's not likely to effect him. >> i have to go with the donald. he's the money guy. it was the economic debate. people are going to have a moment where he put plate on the bones which some were hoping and wishing and praying he could do this would have been the moment. >> what about immigration was he the winner? he talked a lot about the wall? >> he was the loser. >> why? >> because even all parties are saying that's not practical. the spirit of what he is saying about strengthening the border and making sure we are sovereign people i agree with that but the practicality is not resinating. >> you said the loser. who was your loser when it came to immigration? >> my lose

i don't know if you caught my interview with governor kasich at the outset, what kasich said at the beginning of the debate is what jeb said two years ago, you've got to be prepared to lose primaries to win the general. bob, i want to ask you about one of the other supposed front-runners. and that's ben carson. because there was controversy raised in the debate about his association with man attack. here's the question that was asked. >> this is a company called mena technique, a maker of nutritional supplements of which you had a ten-year relationship. they offered claims that they could cure autism, cancer. they settled a lawsuit in texas and yet your involvement continue why? >> well, that's easy to answer. i didn't have an involvement with them. that is total propaganda, and this is what happens in our society. total propaganda, i did a couple speeches for them. i did speeches for other people. they were paid speeches. it's absolutely absurd to say that i had any relationship with them. do i take the product? yes. i think it's a good product. >> he said absurd that i had any relationship

i think some ohio republicans would say, this is actually the old john kasich, the john kasich we know and we're starting to get a little bit of a glimpse into that. i think this race is a marathon rather than a sprint, but i think there's a sense of desperation that's hitting some of these candidates, saying, if i don't make up some ground now, the race will be over. >> that's what strikes me here, beth. and in "the washington post" yesterday, the story was remarkable, a guy frustrated with the senate and throws up his hands. one of the critiques of president obama is he threw up his hands and he isn't -- you know, when he's rejected a third time, doesn't try to go a fourth time. are we learning something about jeb, kasich, and rubio that maybe they can't take the heat right now? >> well, the comparison between rubio and obama is one that the jeb bush folks have been making and are going to continue to make, perhaps, you know, in a very sharp way in the debate. i was in houston over the weekend, where jeb had a fund-raiser, and they did a slide presentation where they described marco

kasich ran into the philadelphia 76ers in his new hampshire hotel. john kasich, republican presidential candidate: "the reason a lot of them make a lot of money is because they have skill...not too many who too many skills lately but they do" knocking kasich's low poll numbers, the 76ers tweeted "at least we win more than 2% of the time." stephanie: we want to know your thoughts on two of the democrats dropping out of the race for president. send us an email to: "news at we are iowa dot com" or call us in the newsroom: 1- 800-858-5555 we'd love to hear what you think about this story or any other. stephanie: again, one of the state's biggest democratic events takes place tomorrow and presidential candidates aren't messing around. hillary clinton is even bringing her husband former presdient bill clinton, and pop star katy perry will be in des moines to rile up the support for hillary. we talked to somebody with the republican national committee for their take on all the hoopla. " you look at the big guns hillary clinton is bringing in, katy perry and

either kasich or bush could win here. i think rubio's challenge is, pick a state of the first four, and try to make it his dominant state. as much as momentum and delegates will matter, those early for states still matter a lot. the race for a new republican leadership team is now getting interesting. the speaker on the way out john boehner has postpone the elections for majority leader and whip and other leadership posts. this thursday's nomination vote is only going to be for the speaker slot, which is expected to go to kevin mccarthy. what are the implications of and reasons for john boehner's decision? john: there is a procedural issue here where you can't vote for a leadership post that has not been vacated, so if you have them all on the same day, it means that there's an inability for a full shakeup of leadership. conservatives have complained about that in the past. apparently, boehner is bowing to that demand. it looks to me kevin mccarthy is the odds on favorite. neither of his challengers seem to be in a capaci

trump: you know, kasich used to be so nice and said he wasn't going to attack anyone. but now he has no poll numbers, and that's why he's down on the end. and since then he's been nasty, stephanie: and with nine candidates on the stage vying for the spotlight, there was no shortage of big moments like that one. joining us now with a live analysis of tonight's debate, iowa state political science professor dr. steffan schmidt -- thanks for joining us. do you think donald trump gained back any momentum tonight? steffen: (adlibs about debate-switch to second remote when we add in the b-roll video of the debate) jack: dr. schmidt, this was billed as an economic discussion tonight. every republican candidate has a plan for simplifying or eliminating some part of the federal government. here's carly fiorina talking about the 70- " " jack: dr. schmidt, who might be better at getting the federal government under control -- someone who's been on the inside of it for years or someone with no direct experience in how it work? stephanie & jack: 1. dr. ben carson is polling first,

and that is what's hurting kasich. tonight, though, i think what kasich has to do is that he has to show that he is going to start challenging some of his colleagues on that stage, so to speak. because he said he wasn't going to do it. but if he wants to instill some confidence in his campaign, he needs to do that tonight. >> mark, you and maeve are hearing the same thing we are from kasich's people is that they have money to sustain. they're not going anywhere. that's going to be an advantage. this field has to thin out. and i figured out why you're smiling. you're smiling so you're waiting for my next debate prediction that you can shoot down like o'malley. and i'm going to make one. i believe what kasich said yesterday is not him losing his cool. this is a tactic you'll see from him tonight. we saw it projected by governor sununu on the show. they've been talking in the upper echelons of that party about what they need to do. and they're going with the, i've had it. don't let the media steal this election. tonight y

kasich: a good question. when i was working to limit the protection of the b-2 and dick cheney called me up and said i will make an agreement with you to go to 20 and i was working with ron on this, a liberal democrats. i said let me check with my partner. he said i am against it. i said i have to go to 20. a reasonable proposal, yes, we can do this. ithink compromise is part of but you can never compromise beyond what you cannot look yourself in the eye. look, you are looking at all of these candidates. thisnot in this -- i am in to fix the country. i am not in this so i can have some great election. that's why i'm not going to tell you something you want to hear. the lady back here said if you were change -- i am not changing. i will listen to you. i am not unconvinced on a different issue. my -- to try it i am a flawed man. try to do the best thing to improve our nation. when i am done, i am happy. and that's what i want to be through this campaign. if i get elected, best i can to navigate. compromise is p

because in 24-36 hours, john kasich seems to be getting more aggressive and hostile. where do you think it's coming from? >> he has very bad poll numbers so he attacked us. i think it was inappropriate but that came from poll numbers. he seems like a nice guy. i think it worked out well for me. >> let me go to the issue of the substance to these unnamed sources. do you talk about trillions of dollars? . >> i don't think -- i don't think those sources exist. i don't believe they exist. >> i got the impression it was his personal opinion. it was a great line mentioning lar larry larry. he's a good guy. what you didn't see was factor in was repatriated money and a lower corporate tax rate, etc. >> we're lowering taxes, big league. we're bringing rates down. with the highest tax in the world with highest taxed country now and it's not even close. we're bringing the rates down to 15% for corporations and bringing it down to ten. we have right now, $2.5 trillion outside of the country that can't get in. we're bringing it way down. it's going to be used in our country, then,

or rubio and kasich. then i think they have a shot. >> and alex wagner, the problem with serious governor bush is that he's just not performing on the public stage of this campaign. >> he is just not performing you would period. law yens, i like that we keep giving bush this sort of open door. i'm not quite sure why. >> i think it's process of elimination. there's too many nuts up on the stage. once you get the nuts off the stage there's very few people left. >> and he has the operation to execute. when it comes to actual ground gaming, bush is an actual person that can be in contention, but he's been abysmal in his candidacy. he still can't answer the question of the bush legacy. this is not a person who's gotten bet we are time. he's gotten worse. and i agree with joe. i think if kasich can get past the -- to the point where he's actually considered, sure, but at this point, i think if you're going to see a primary process that's radically different from the beginning to the end. and the candidates who

kasich: america's taxes are also too high. we will cut them so americans have more money in their pockets and more control over their own lives and better job opportunities. look, you know better how to spend the money you have in your pocket than sending it to somebody in washington so they can figure out what's best for you. in ohio, we cut taxes by $5 billion while turning that $8 billion projected shortfall into a surplus. as president, i will cut taxes and we will not only cut taxes but we will balance our budget in eight years. both of them, because the balancing of a budget needs economic growth and you manage your spending. both lead us to a balanced budget which ultimately can lead us to a place where we begin to pay down our national debt. president reagan set the top income tax rate at 28%, and it unleashed a decade of growth. we will also kill the death tax because no one should have to visit the undertaker and the tax collector on the same day. small businesses should be able to pass businesses on to their childre

and kasich decided to do that and took the worst of the battle there. >> kasich has to make the point and so do you, that you guys are sitting governors, that you have a record. and that the other guys don't have any record and that's what john was trying to do. >> listen, my point bill is this: you can do that without attacking somebody else. >> jeb bush attacked rubio. >> well, it was a big mistake? >> you think so. >> i do. big mistake for two reasons we shouldn't be attacking each other up there at this point in time. >> i agree you have got to go after hillary and barack obama. >> the problem with hillary there is so much to attack and definitely not enough time to do it. >> you didn't get as much air time as you. >> "new york times" attacked you today they said quote the point is that new jersey is in big trouble, the governor is off pursuing a presidential run that's turned out to be nothing more than a vanity project. there are certain republicans that are raise their ire. why does the "new york times" not like you? >> because i'm a successful republican in the blue state righ