paul prudhomme was 75 years old. still to come on the newshour: more on kevin mccarthy's decision to bow out of the race for speaker of the u.s. house. gwen's conversation with attorney general, loretta lynch. ben bernanke on who should have taken the fall for the financial crisis. and much more. >> woodruff: we take a deeper look now at today's surprise shake-up on capitol hill with former republican house member vin weber of minnesota and washington post reporter mike debonis. gentlemen, welcome. mike debonis, to you first. anything to add about why kevin mccarthy pulled out? >> really, right now, you know, it was a matter of pure politics within the house republican conference. it became clear that his path to the speakership was going to be very narrow and that his ascending to that post would do little if anything to solve the internal problems and the divides within the conference. he said it himself in his press conference earlier today when he today before the microphone, he said we need a fresh face. the que

paul ryan is 44. he can turn two or three or four terms of the speaker, turn that into a governor ship and run for the presidency or maybe became a senator. so i think what, a lot of people are saying it is a depped end job for him. i think that is wrong. he can do great things there and take it to whatever he wants to do. >> speaking of 70s something-year-old politician, one making the news today in washington. take a listen to this and then we'll talk about it. >> while i not be a candidate, i will not be silence. i intend to speak out and influence as much as can where we stand as a party and where we need to go as a nation. >> all the people with inside information were wrong, joe bide season not running for president. what do you make of that? >> it was a very emotional statement from joe biden and i know the supporters are very disappointed that he's not running. that said, i think you talk to any campaign strategyist at this point, he's right, it is hard to figure out what the path forward is f

and ron paul. he's a libertarian hardcore. so for him to go ahead and be all happy about paul ryan tells me this is definitely not on the up and up. but my deal is real simple here. i didn't call up about that. i own health insurance agencies and i am an independent and at least now we can get everyone to shut up about repealing and let's hear a debate tonight and see if they really got anything to say because the deal is is that boehner and with ryan's allegedly disgust but approval, the people's protection and affordable care act is well fund and probably funded enough to go around the world twice. so once again, for me to say amash is saying this is all good, then that just -- this doesn't make any sense but one thing that's good is let's put this to bed and let move on to bring back made in the u.s.a. i think everyone can agree with that. host: the house will be back in in about 15 minutes or so. around 3:00 eastern. a tweet from the majority leader, also issued a statement on the election. the

paul had some conditions. part of that, as he went forward, is recognizing that he will have the support when he goes to the floor for the actual vote that will make him speaker. all of that speculation and back and forth and not having a leader. 100%. it is time for us to get the people business done. >> you want everyone working towards the same thing. how do you get that done in an environment where you cannot even get the full support that you need for congressman ryan to become speaker? >> i think that he will have 218 votes will be go to the floor. they voted their conscious, a great many, in the room and then out on the floor they will vote to the conference nominee is. obviously, i think you will have the votes to do it. trish: do we have to have all of this drama? >> a intended for government to be very, very hard. in that, they were very successful. trish: indeed. blake and chris and gary still here with me. your reaction to this. the guy that republicans can get behind. only having 200 votes. not th

>> paul: well, it is true.e you? i really thought i'd never do another film concerning war, because they're just so ferociously complicated to do. >> shad: in what ways are they complicated? >> paul: they're really complicated to finance, 'cause they're expensive. and they're very complex and difficult to shoot, and... but it, it, in any ei got invited to go as a group of people to visit the troops. they would assemble a group called team canada, and off we'd go. and i was in kandahar for about a week, i guess.vent, at the big airbase there, kandahar airfield. but i also got out on helicopters and looked at forward operating bases. and it, it was absolutely, uh, bewildering. in part because, the environment itself is so, it's so amped up and difficult to describe.but ta kind of strange, brutal, almost chaotic poetry. uh, there's men and women moving in uniform, and machinery, and air is full of noise, and the smell of diesel. it's completely compelling. >> shad: such a foreign experience from-- >> paul: mm hmm, yeah.

rand paul's father. jesse benton had a long time association with rand paul including running the super pac supporting his presidential campaign. is this affecting rand paul at all in the way he campaigns in iowa? is he keeping this at arm's length successfully. >> he's trying. tomorrow he will be in iowa, as well just a few miles away from the courthouse. what he's been saying the whole time, this is complicated documents and who sign this had or who didn't sign that. that's sort of a mischaracterization of what the charges are. i think he's been holding it off. i think part of the defense is to try to make this look like the government is unfairly prosecuting these liberty people who you know, it's a political prosecution. i think he's been sort of spinning it that way. i think that's what's so interesting about ron paul coming to testify. i think the prosecution is going to try to frame ron paul as the victim saying he's not the kind of candidate who buys endorsements. these guys went behind him. they

paul f. tompkins is back. (cheers and applause) you know, i we were talking about politics lately, obviously a lot of politics is happening through the lens of social media as we get into the election season and people complain on both sides. but i want to make it very clear. when it comes to politics our stance on @midnight as it is all about the [bleep] we're not on the right side, on the left side, we're on comedy side. so don't get your trumps in a knot and your bernies in a what. now it's time to start our weekly panderdome. freak napper and muppet balcony heck heckler bernie sanders seen here demandsing amnesty for swedish chefs is very progressive darling but there is one issue where sandsers is not liberal, gun control. "the new york times" quoted senator gramm grandpa munster as saying if you pass the strongest gun control legislation tomorrow i don't think it would have had a profound effect on the tragedies we have seen. he then added are you my nurse? sanders has defended his pro

and so, that's why paul -- i've spoken to paul -- he needs to think about this. it's a hard -- it's a difficult decision. he knows -- i'm confident that he knows he could pull it off and win. the question is, can he change the dynamic? and that's the thing that he has to think about, and frankly, all of the members of the house republican conference have to think about. >> is it a job you would want at this point? >> oh, i have no plans to run for speaker at this time, but you know, anything's possible in this world. >> all right, congressman charles dent, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >> greatly appreciate it. >> thanks, tamron. >> absolutely. >>> developing now, republican presidential candidate ben carson facing backlash again for controversial comments that he's made. this time, the remarks are about nazi germany and the holocaust. the anti-defamation league is now slamming carson for suggesting in his new book just out this week that the holocaust could have been prevented if jews had been better armed, had better access to guns, a view he r

and if paul ryan isn't viable. if he the only widely known name on this chart, the only name that people say nice things about, if he's not even a viable candidate for speaker, then maybe none of the people who have been mentioned as potential speakers are actually viable as potential speakers. maybe none of the 20 of them could be elected speaker. we went through this process earlier this year and had the giant chart of all the potential republican candidates for president and when a few said they wouldn't run, like john bolton said they wouldn't run, we poofed them off the list. there are a lot of republicans still running for president, but the ones out of the running, we poofed off the list. if we apply that same discipline to this other republican leadership vacuum. if we want to poof off the list all the republicans who really can't make it, who aren't in the running when it comes to being speaker, there's no way they'll be a viable candidate, if you do that, here's how you have to poof off the list. you read

on paul's message. he wants party unity before he agrees to run. it resonated with me. i thought he did an excellent job, made a great presentation and again, i don't want to step on his message. they should endorse him. i'll leave it at that. >>> till last week's democratic presidential debate, former virginia senator jim webb's presidential campaign had been virtually invisible with webb holding few campaign appearances. today for the first time since he announced his run in july, jim webb finally held his first major press conference to tell eager reporters i'm dropping out of the democratic race. >> i fully accept that my views on many issues are not compatible with the power structure in the nominating base of the democratic party. for this reason, i'm withdrawing from any consideration of being the democratic party's nominee for the presidency. >> webb last seen complaining he wasn't getting enough time to speak in the debate is the first democrat to drop out. he claimed today the democrats are to

cynthia: hillary clinton also knocked paul for his comments about gay rights in the workplace. i'm told some of the drake students took off their rand paul for president stickers after he made those comments. stacey. stacey: fellow republican presidential candidate carly fiorina is in windsor heights tonight for a chili fundraiser. this is the latest stop on fiorina's swing through iowa. earlier today, she help a town -- she held a town hall meeting in the western iowa town of spencer. there she commented on president obama's decision to hold 5500 beyond the end of the year. ms. fiorina: he now is recognizing that afghanistan is becoming potentially a haven for isis and that the taliban is not on the wane as he has tried to convince the american people of for years. it's growing in strength. stacey: the latest fox news poll has fiorina in 6th place with 5%. donald trump leads with 24%, a slight edge over ben carson with 23%. kevin: hearings on a proposed oil pipeline through iowa don't start for another month. but protests got underway today outside the iowa utilities board off

and then john boehner said tonight paul ryan's going to say whether or not he wants the job and paul ryan's office said no, no, no, he won't tell you tonight. and then paul ryan came out and said, i do sort of want the job. but i probably won't take it unless do you this whole big long list of things. is that basically what just happened? >> basically. paul ryan basically said he would take the job if the republican conference agrees to these conditions he has. you listed them yourself. they involved his family. they involved some rule changes. they involved a big word he's been using over and over again is the idea of unity. he wants to unify the conference. the reality is he wants to do this. he's given the conference till the end of the week to decide whether or not think can unify around him. he's asked that the three major caucuses of the republican party come back and beak say okay, we'll endorse you as the speaker of the house. those three caucuses are the rsc, which is conservative republicans, the freedom caucus which is very conservative republicans and then the tuesday gro

i believe paul. other people say that and you know it is standard rhetoric, but paul is for real. i'm not close to paul ryan, but i admire him, know him and i have tremendous respect for him. >> definitely taking on one of the toughest jobs there is. thank you congressman king for joining us. joining me is dana lash, and ana navarra. day a na, what do you think? will he get the backing of all of the disparate groups? >> that's a great question. optically paul ryan is a good choice, he's of good temperament. he has youth on his side. he is a good messenger. he is one of those in the house, one of the few adept at taking something policy wise very far in the weeds and presenting it in laymen's terms and he's been grouped a while by john boehner. but that being said where you have the freedom caucus and grassroots, they're concerned about his past, particularly the fact that he's really never met a bailout he didn't like, he supported part d, no child left behind, tarp, and it's the company with whom he's kept. while john boehner has been the face, make no mistake it's been paul ryan

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that's what paul wants. i mean paul is a big thinker about big ideas, so he needed that vote to be able to get there. and we had to work for it, but i think the conference feels very good about where we are today and i think america will feel very good about where we are in the future. >> what do you think is his biggest challenge out of the gate? >> well, there's always challenges going to a new job, but this isn't so new to paul. think about it. he was the budget chairman and he changed direction of america, how we looked at debt. he was ways and means chairman. he was a vp candidate. so i think that whole combination of experience. and he was a waiter at tortilla coast. he's never left his roots. and when you listen to his speech, it's about for all americans. i think he's going to unite both sides of the aisle and you'll see big issues being tackled, where other times they were ignored. >> he says he wants to change the process, the committees write the legislation, more power from the bottom going up to

if paul ryan gets the nomination, i would support paul ryan. >> his time is now. many of us believe you will answer the call. >> i think he has gone from a hard no to he knows he has to consider it. all of us are trying to make sure he understands the he\ understands the support will be behind him if he chooses to do it. >> mitt romney's 2012 running mate in the current ways and means chairman is under pressure from all sides to run for the speakership. his answer is no, definitely not, almost certainly not. probably not. mark, does that mean he is going to definitively be the guy? mark: he might be. right now, it is the most likely option. there is a recess for 10 days. he will talk to his wife and have his first serious conversation about it. his dream job is to be chairman of ways and means. he has never wanted to be speaker. he understands most people in the party think he has no option. he has a lot of questions to deal with. can he do this job and still spend time with his kids? speaker involves raising a lot of money. would he be better at taming the conser

>> i would strongly support paul ryan as speaker. i think the conditions he laid out are done in a very positive way. saying he said he would be -- is willing to take arrows in the chest, but not in the back. he wants everyone to buy in, and he will be looking for endorsement of all the major groups, including the tuesday group, the more moderate -- and the freedom caucus, and he said that the endorsement of all of them. otherwise he said he would be the third log on the fire, and he doesn't want that. if he's going to be the speaker, it probably will be the end of his political career, probably won't go further than this. he wants to make it worth while. he believes in the cause rather than in just the political gamesmanship, and he also indicated he does not want to spend as much time fund-raising. it will be policy oriented and selling the republican message. >> we showed our viewers the podium, congressman ryan is expected to come out and speak. we'll obviously bring that to the viewers live. i just want to apologize in advance f

one more reason why paul ryan may not want to leave his party and that reason is the internet. >> paul ryan is said to be too far to the left. >> some articles are saying he's not conservative enough to be speaker. >> one calling ryan a dangerous pick. >> a conservative headline, paul ryan is the absolute worst choice for speaker. >> trevor: i'm so confused. this is a real headline. so it turns out all those years of fighting obamacare, right privatize medicare and massively cut domestic spending, that was all a cover. well played, congressman. or should i say -- comrade. are we still doing that? for more, we turn to senior political correspondent, jessica williams! (cheers and applause) jessica! help me understand what on earth is going on. how does paul ryan go from being ben gurion the poster boy for conservatism to a communist. >> simple, paul ryan is getting playboy'd. >> trevor: i'm sorry? you didn't hear? playboy magazine says it will no longer feature nude pictures. >> you're now just one click away from every sex act imaginable for free. >> trevor: no nudity in playboy? >> huh

i think paul would be a great speaker. i think he has the skills to do the job and i think he also has the credentials to reach out to traditional conservative organizations to help bridge the gap that we have in the house today. >> can he get to the 218 votes needed? >> i think so. >> he's getting a lot of heat from conservatives about different votes and his immigration stance. today senator reid, democratic leader in the senate adorised him. you think he won't have a problem? >> i think he'll be all right. >> what about this meeting tonight? the debt ceiling? are you talking about the debt ceiling vote? >> we'll be talking to our members tonight and tomorrow about the debt ceiling. as i made clear, we're not going to default on our debt there are several paths forward that i'm going to lay out for the members. and but we're going to find some path forward here in the next few days so we're going to move. >> the house majority leader mccarthy said tonight he didn't see a clean debt ceiling bill getting 218 votes. >> that

>> that's the difference with paul. paul is not just a member of congress. paul is who america knows, he's thoughtful. he looks for solutions. he doesn't just think, how do i move it out of committee? how do i transfer and change america at the same time. so, i think paul moving legislation is a little different. i think you'll be able to move and have the power within the senate and across the country. my best advice is get out to the country, talk about the ideas, win the idea before you win the vote. >> of course, a group of 30 or 40 members of that house freedom caucus who actually opposed you when you were thinking about running for speaker and were also one reason why john boehner has decided to draw -- decided to resign. how much of a threat is that group to speaker ryan now going forward? >> you know what, if you noticed, a lot of them voted for paul. paul is a uniter. and i think you're going to find his ideas will unite people and will unite this country. and i think he's the right man at the right time. and it's a good day today for america and fo

that's my fear for paul. that's why paul has been guarded or hesitant in wanting to accept this position. we need to hear from paul ryan to see how he feels about this decision of the freedom caucus. i don't know how he'll take it. >> can i get your response to that matt salmon quote about you're try to hire a maid and the maid will only work certain hours. i found that such a strange metaphor. number one, we're talking about speaker of the house of the united states. people talking about this job in this way that just seems completely ahistorical. this is a job for i think it's safe to say hundreds of yours in other republic, people have done anything in their power to attain. suddenly things are so dysfunctional that he's comparing it to a low paid service job? >> well, i find it ironic that some of the members who represent a minority of the house republican conference have made demands on the speaker candidates, but when paul ryan, who is running for speaker, makes demands on the members, the same members

paul: there are many that you admire. the answer you normally get our look at nelson mandela or rosa parks. these are people who are driven by strong sense of purpose. if a person like rosa parks like a bus canup in change the face of racial segregation than any individual and their own circle can credit difference. what you have to do is encourage it. we have a lot of efforts in place. we work with these foundations. give a lot of people there. it changes the conventional career path. we bring in examples from other companies. there are many others that have shown they have a lot of courage. ultimately, what gives us courage and what gives us purpose to do what we do, and it should be true for everybody is that we realize why we do this. alternately, we do this because we belong to a very small percentage of the population. it is about 2% that is actually educated. that has a comfortable job. that can do what they want, work or they want. they do not have to about their family. that is not trivial and 98%. -- that is not

. >> pressure is growing on congressman paul ryan to throw his hat in the ring. >> reportedly paul ryan got two calls from speaker boehner saying you're the only one who can unite the party. >> i did everything but carry his gym bag. >> he said, do you have something to tell me, mr. ryan and paul ryan said, no, i don't. >> trevor: because he's at the gym! he's always being accosted at the gym. he must feel like every woman at the gym. (laughter) paul ryan isn't an idiot either. >> he said his answer is still no and he's still not running. >> i haven't changed my mind. my answer is still the same. i have nothing more to say or nothing new to add. >> trevor: leave paul ryan alone! he's just not that into you. at this rate in a few days, i feel like paul ryan will probably grow a beard and someone will be like are you running? and someone will answer the door and say, paul ryan, you just missed him. i'm his brother paul brian, yeah, i don't know why our names are like that either. one more reason why paul ryan may not want to leave his party and that reason is the internet. >> paul ryan is

his name was paul ryan. there's a difference between being asked to do something and being called to do something. paul was being called, i know he'll serve with grace and dignity and i wish him and his family all the best. [ applause ] i describe my life as a chase for the american dream. that chase began at the bottom of the hill to the main drag in ohio outside of cincinnati. the top of the hill was a small house with a big family, a shiny city in its own right. the hill had twists and turns and even a few tears. nothing wrong with that. but let me tell you, it was just perfect. i'll never forget, we're the luckiest people on earth. in america, you can do anything that you're willing to work for, willing to work hard at and things -- anything can happen if you're willing to make the necessary sacrifices in life. if you falter, and you will, you can just pick yourself up, dust yourself off and go do it again. because hope always springs eternal. and if you just do the right things for the right reasons, go

if paul convinces us -- i believe paul wants the changes we do. we have a conference meeting discussing rule changes attended by more than a hundred members of our conference. this is not just a conservative complaint. i know that paul is a committee guy. he likes when the committees are allowed to work. i think he's mentally commited to many of the same things we want. >> convince us of that, and we can deliver an overwhelming majority of the house. i don't think anybody is going to get 247. >> here's a thing about paul ryan. he doesn't want the job. why convince you of something -- a job he doesn't want. >> sometimes you just need to do it. needs you, and if you decide you want to do it, that's great. if he doesn't, there's other people who could unite us. if you look down the list and say okay, who could unite the party in the house, certainly paul comes to the head of the list. >> what due say to people, republicans who look at other members and say the country looks at the house of representatives and the republicans runing it and say this is

host: paul from florida, you are next. caller: yes. i would tell paul ryan to have a anding with president obama remind him if he wants to leave a legacy, so far the legacy he is lost the house and the senate on his watch. he has got nothing done. he has all these executive orders that will be overturned. i would tell him to -- if the president cuts the corporate tax rates to 45% and cut up all the loopholes, no corporate welfare, and make a one-time deal to bring back the money from overseas and use that for his -- infrastructure, the whole money friend for structure, that is what i would tell him to do if the president wants to leave a legacy. host: papers this morning have sped off stories taking place in the jefferson jackson democratic fundraisers the took place on saturday. you can see that if you go to in website, it has a story the wall street journal, taking a look at mrs. clinton, strength following the benghazi meetings. navigation of the benghazi hearing before a congressional panel and the democratic debate boosted her sup

paul ryan can do it. but it will be a tall task. he will be your next speaker. >> ryan lizza, between paul ryan and house freedom caucus, he believes the house freedom caucus would be the losers. do you agree? >> yeah, look, paul ryan stared them down and he won. he did not get the formal endorsement of the freedom caucus, true, but have you ever seen a leader in a position like paul ryan, his entire party begging him to become speaker of the house. he, for effect, or because he really is reluctant playing this reluctant game, making them sort of beg him. going before the freedom caucus and saying you do x, y and z or you don't get me. john boehner couldn't do that. >> he didn't get what he wanted. he didn't get the furl ll endorsement, true. this is the most sort of -- this is a pretty tough group. they don't want to do anything that the establishment wants and he got two-thirds of them. i agree with you, this is a loss for them and a win for paul ryan. he's going to -- he's going to get that gavel in a -- he's going to go into the

a word about paul ryan. harry reid is saying i'm a paul ryan fan. we've been able to work with him. that is the most damaging thing harry reid could have possibly said today about paul ryan's candidacy. that's something you say if you want to leave the house of representatives in this chaos. >> and when i've spoken to house democrats today, they say they've been grabbing pact buckets of popcorn. they enjoy the chaos. and to see ryan play hardball with his own conference, that has startled democrats. you have to watch right now what the freedom caucus is going to do. i just spoke with the leaders of the freedom caucus a few minutes ago. they know they can't really beat ryan. their only candidate from florida doesn't have much of a chance. it's not about beating ryan at this moment, it's can you edge them out of the race? can they stand together as a bloc and say we're not going to be unified with you and does that force ryan out? that's they play, it seems at the moment. >> now we have some moderate republica

he voted for paul ryan. so the votes being cast against him at this moment are nominal and symbolic. >> john boehner ends nearly a quarter of a century of public service. what did he say and specifically what did he do? >> reporter: an emotional moment for an emotional man. he was moving around a box of tissues which everyone was laughing about, because he tends to tear up when he talks about his roots, and his family, and now he will be out of work. in addition to talking about some of the humble aspects of his life, he talks about what he believes republicans have been able to accomplish under his watch. >> the most significant spending reductions in modern times. we have banned earmarks all together. sorry. [ laughter ]. >> reporter: that's one of those sorry, not sorry, del. now certainly earmarks are something of the past, but getting rid of them has cost trouble on capitol hill. it seemed to be a way that members could do a little bit of horse trading. those days are over. john boehner is talking about

he also said he expects congressman paul ryan to be elected speaker. >> listen, i think paul is going to get the support that he is looking for, that he laid out a very clear vision of how he would run the speakership. and i thought the members responded very well to it. >> speaker boehner's comments came after house republicans met again this morning to consider congressman ryan's offer to step up and take the position. but only if certain specific conditions are met. ryan set those conditions out in a meeting last night with republicans. >> first, we need to move from an opposition party to being

that limits it to paul ryan. he's been able to bridge that gap because a lot of the work he's done on the budget and the heat he's taken from democrats because of the work he's done on the budget. paul ryan is their last best shot. short of john boehner saying i got to stick around for another year, it's got to be paul ryan for them. >> robert costa of the washington post tweeting, sending out a number of tweets. one of them says boehner to ryan pitching the chair, per sources. pitching the ways and means chair. okay, in addition. so committee chairmanship -- >> he has that now. >> he's saying -- sorry. he says if you really want to change policy, do it from the top. you can be a policy guy/healer. according to robert costa that's the pitch bostehner is making. >> be a leader. i think part of the -- in addition to all the personal factors we've talked about that are keeping paul ryan from wanting to do this. there's the basic reality that the republican house speaker, whoever it is, is going to be faced with the

the paul ryan if paul ryan ran for speaker. jason chaffetz is the congressman who fried to challenge mckaerlt who with drew abankruptly and threw the contest into turmoil. jason chaffetz said he absolutely would get behind paul ryan, if mr. ryan decided to run. republicans just gathered in this room right behind me where they talk for about an hour about the way forward. they try to figure out what they should do after that sudden resignation announcement. paul ryan did not say much. there were some who encouraged him to run, pictures people made but he did not express his interest whatsoever. members have been talking to him behind the scene. one said, how's ghim morning? he said, do you have something to tell me this morning? and mr. ryan said, no, i don't. he's keeping his cards close to his vest while he deliberates what he's going to do. he's going to clear the field and he will almost certainly be the next speaker. we'll have to wait for him and what he decides to do. >> as we wait for paul ryan to come and speak to the r

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nancy pelosi 75, paul ryan 45. the democratic bench just been so far back because those three have stayed in power so long. >> luke rusert has been a guest on that podcast. >> great. >> thank you all for joining us tonight. paul ryan already has a lot on his plate. he will talk about it all on meet the press with chuck todd this sunday. be sure to watch that. meet the press this sunday. still ahead the changing of the guard on thrill. emotional day. >> please join me in saying one last time thank you, speaker boehner. >> we will look back at john boehner's rise to power and how he lost it coming up. why pause a spontaneous moment to take a pill? or stop to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use, is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop

we need to have paul come in and talk about things. we all like paul. paul's a good friend. we want to make sure changes we think will make a environment more conducive to the environment that we told voters we would accomplish. we want to make sure those changes happen. if it is same business as usual model that will not work even with someone dynamic as paul ryan. it is to everyone's interest to have those changes. bill: what is your question and what bus paul ryan need to say to get your vote and vote of your caucus? >> when we stand a position, make firm on position. make the senate do something. have rule changes in place take power away pro a few people at stop. i think about the steering committee. i said this week ago sunday on chris wallace's show. watching speaker have five votes on steering committee and everyone else is one. nowhere else do you have the model. those things will empower a broad cross-section of the congress, frankly everyone in the congress. we think that is environment much more conducive to making kind of changes that need made. bill: one more t

that has bought paul ryan some breathing room. but the honeymoon will not be long because he will be tested in this position. it is not like being chairman of a committee. you are in the line of fire, not only from democrats, but from within your own party. bill: reluctant leader but whether it was kicking or screaming i can't describe it that way. but now he is all-in as they say. you mentioned ted cruz. you speak to him tonight. >> yes. bill: what is the context for his positioning now, in the senate, you know, still considered a renegade? i think outgoing speaker who considered him, to use a polite word, a jackass? >> it's cable, bill. bill: yeah, it is cable. indeed it is. what is cruz going to say about how this congress acts now? >> listen, he is running an anti-washington, anti-establishment campaign. he arguably had a very good night last night going against the media, going against the moderators. he has pretty detailed flat tax plan he put out in op-ed in "wall street journal" today. we'll ask him about all of that and t

i think paul ryan is the one. i would like to see another platform such as the social media do a little bit more to allow us to comment and read along the bills as they pass through the houses of government. thank you. host: here is how we are dividing the lines, conservative republicans, those of you who believe that this leadership so far has not been conservative enough and what do you think about paul ryan, 202-748-8000. moderate republicans, 202-748-8001. all others, 202-748-8002. we are showing you the front page of the wall street journal. in the article they note that paul ryan told republicans he envisions redefining the job as one more focused on communicating the party's message with less time spent on the road raising money. this from the "washington post," much depends on what assurances of support he can win from a republican -- republican hardliners. he met privately with leaders of the house freedom caucus, a heart-rights group that pushed speaker john boehner out of his post and a rail kevin mccar

race, i'm a huge fan of paul ryan. i would support paul ryan. i would hope he would do it. he's successantly said he won't. >> others weighing a run for speaker appear willing to give ryan and his family the time and space they need. >> i believe he's going home this weekend to soul-search with his family about whether or not he can in fact accept this job. a job he doesn't want, he isn't seeking, but is seeking him. >> congressman daniel webster and picked up conservative support from the house conservative caucus has refused to say if he'll support the nominee. >> i'm not running against anybody. i'm not running against a personality or a name. i'm running for that set of principles. that says we're going to have a principled base, a member-driven congress. >> the day after majority leader kevin mccarthy stunned colleagues by dropping out of the race. >> we're trying to work together, i know a lot of speculation about who should run and others. paul is looking at it but it's his decision. if he decides to do it he wo

if paul ryan gets into the race, i would support paul ryan. i would hope he would do it. he has consistently said he won't. we've got to get something who wants to do it and will fight for it and make the most of it. >> a group that sparked the rebellion against john boehner and kevin mccarthy. great to have you on the real story. where do things stand? give tus real stous the real st what's going on. >> you've highlighted some of the things that are very key. we wait to hear from paul ryan whether he will get in the race or not. he is a very credible candidate, has a broad swath of support. the real story is behind the scenes. there's moderate and conservatives within our party trying to work together to unite and get behind someone and provide them 240 or 246 votes and those discussions are happening right now. >> you know that your group, the free caucus, two gopers are left that group. you know some people are deeming you as the problem children. you're causing the ruckus of what's going on. sometimes chaos needs to happen for the right kind of change? >> sometimes yo

paul ryan could do that now. but paul ryan knows the job of the speaker ultimately, there are must-pass pieces of legislation. they involve making sure there's no debt ceiling default, they involve keeping the government funded, keeping the government open. and ultimately, he is going to have to, if he becomes speaker, cut those deals with the obama white house, with the democrats, to keep the government open, to avoid some kind of a default on the debt ceiling. and ultimately, when he cuts that deal, it doesn't matter how much trust the right has in him right now. there is a very, very good chance he will be called a traitor by the same people who are propping him up right now. and if you're paul ryan and you have some kind of ambition, some kind of political ambition that extends beyond the house, some kind of national political ambition, potentially, that job is a trap for you because the base of the party could very quickly revolt on you, not to mention the simple fact that it would be one heck of a headache.