♪ >> this week on quadriga, war on terror. how to combat islamic state. french president francois hollande is on a diplomatic mission, looking for allies in a war against the i.s. terrorist organization. it is to be a new alliance involving germany, russia, and britain with airstrikes against i.s. strongholds. is that enough? calls for ground troops are growing louder. their deployment would be dangerous with an uncertain outcome. what is the best way to combat i.s.? coming to you from berlin, quadriga. the international debate. your host, peter craven. peter: welcome to this latest edition of quadriga. the shocking terrorist attacks in turkey, lebanon, paris, and tunisia, as well as the downing of a russian passenger plane, have either been claimed by or blamed on islamic state. today, we are asking how to combat i.s. i am joined in the studio by three analysts and commentators. let me introduce you, beginning with ulrike herrmann, a journalist with taz. she says to fight a war, you need money, which is why we need to cut off the cash flow to islamic state. also with us is alan p

. invasion of iraq helped spur the rise of the islamic state. one is a journalist who twice interviewed osama bin laden, the the other is a researcher who interviewed former isis prisoners held in iraq. then governors of at least 27 u.s. states say they will not accept syrian refugees, despite the u.n. is urging the world to help the men and women fleeing violence in syria. >> the reaction to the wave of refugees we are seeing should be one of compassion, empathy. these are people who are fleeing the very destruction of daesh we've seen in paris. amy: we will also speed to the cousin of nohemi gonzalez, the 23 old american student killed in the paris attacks. she has been described as a proud first-generation mexican-american. we will speak to her cousin in los angeles. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now! democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. russian authorities have confirmed a bomb brought down a passenger plane over the sinai peninsula in egypt last month, killing all 224 people on board. the self-proclaimed islamic state had cla

means a lot of thing. it's the ago nipple for islamic state in iraq and the levant. i.s.i.l. itself does not like the terminology. they don't like being called d.a.e.s.h. i.s.i.l. is actually according to some press reports threatened to cut the tongues of people out who use it. that's because it can be seen to be a disrespectful term. it sounds like other arabic words that can be disrespectful. you will hear john kerry calling it d.a.e.s.h. while obama refers to it as i.s.i.l. some people call it i.s.i.s. and some call it the islamic state. whatever you call it, you need to understand what motivates it. if you don't understand that, it's impossible to defeat >> reporter: i.s.i.l. is annoy synonymous with its brutal attacks like the ones in paris, salveage beheadings of people. the majority of muslims around the world denounce. while the group's threat commands global attention, it was only in january of 2014 when president obama referred to i.s.i.l. as a jv meaning junior varsity team compared to al-qaeda. the president insisted the u.s. is not underestimated the threat posed today

good night. >> earlier this week's book about his book islamic state. he discussed the terrorist attacks in paris and the rise of isi s in syria and iraq. >> editor in chief. founding editor-in-chief of the london-based newspaper and in 2012 middle east magazine, one of 50 most influential. author of two important books, the secret history of al qaeda translated into 32 languages and after bin laden. this new book islamic state digital caliphate university of california. the organization that calls itself on the mind of everyone who pays attention. we are fortunate is joining us. it is a pleasure to welcome you to world affairs council. please excuse me. is your microphone on? we can see you, but we cannot here you. still no sound. good. very good. there is camera but no sound. >> is it on now? >> yes, sir. thank you. very good. >> the technology. please excuse me. the caliphate. >> that is exactly right. >> as i read your book, engaged in a political project from the project of al qaeda. affiliates in syria, what would you describe the key difference? >> you know, extremely amat

seen him again. that also differentiates al qaeda from the islamic state. it seems remarkable that whenever a leader or a commander is eliminated, there is another commander to take place. they seem to be backed up in the leadership in a way that they were not in al qaeda. they are decentralized. >> yes, that's what i mean, it is not a one-man show. there is a collective leadership. he is not actually the man who is running the show. those people are very, very experienced people. otherwise they wouldn't be able to run those facilities. the structure of the state, they have a police force, they have administration, mortar and health. i don't believe those are running the state. so they managed to run this perfectly well until now. actually if you look at it, it is more stable and more secure than the other states around them. there is more law and order that's why actually those people are running the store show. >> we tend to forget that now. we tend to forget that at the very beginning, former officers in the iraqi army and former senior members were an important part of the isla

wanted to use the words radical islam for fear of promoting islam phobia, i'm good. this country loves islam. we elected captioning sponsored by comedy central it's the nightly show. let's do. (cheers and applause) thank you very much. welcome to the nightly show. oh, thank yous for the whooo. we have a great one for you tonight. before we begin, i want to say a few words about what happened in france over the weekend. we want you to know our hearts are with you. look, france, you are our oldest ally. you understand us more than anybody. you gave us our biggest emotions , bling, you even put up with us when we tried to change the name of your delicious fries. they did. you have always had our back. if somebody [bleep] with you, they [bleep] with us, all right. (cheers and applause) now think about it. libertye, egalite, from aternite. i on a personal night my daughter was born on july 14th, bastille day and has been a francophil ever signs. i promised her shen she was a girl for her 18th birthday i would take her to paris. that birthday is in eight months, so do what you will, paris bu

difraoui on the show. he is a german /egyptian expert on islamism. who is working with the can dade -- candid think tank based here in berlin. he is currently living in france, and he says the fight against i.s. cannot be fought solely with military resources. and finally, great to have alan posener back on the show. he is a british-born commentator for the british newspaper "die welt." he says of course it is war and it has been since the fatwa issued against salman rushdie 25 years ago. radical islam wants to eradicate the west, and the west will not have peace until radical islam has been eradicated. asiem el difraoui, your opening statement says military resources alone won't defeat isis. would you nonetheless agree with the pope when he says that we are in a piecemeal world war iii? asiem: i wouldn't call it world war iii. let's not exaggerate. we are confronted with the global ideology. that's true. which needs to be -- i don't want to -- we need to find a new terminology. we are in a global conflict against an ideology which we can't win only militarily. if france is bombing

strike yesterday was the islamic state spokesman who appeared in this execution video which showed egyptian christians beheaded on the shores in february. this is the first u.s. strike against an isil leader in libya, and it demonstrates we will go after isil leaders wherever they operate being said today. it was shear coincidence it was days after a u.s. drone killed a brit known as jihadi john as he got into a car in raqqa, syria. he, too, appeared in video showing western hostages being beheaded. sean? >> this is now playing into the american presidential election we have going on. the democratic debate earlier tonight. i don't think we are at war with radical islam. hillary clinton said. bernie sanders, doubling down, still believes climate change is our biggest national security threat, even after paris. are people in washington within the ranks you're talking to every day, are they listening to this? >> well, i just heard the candidates talking in that debate, saying they still think that the u.s. should allow 65,000 syrian refugees to come into the country. and what was clea

anchor: this is "dw news" live from berlin. kurdish forces say they have dealt islamic state a major low. peshmerga fighters and northern iraq raise the flag over sinjar. they say they have beaten jihadist militants and retake in a strategic town after a two-day assault. we will manage it, german chancellor angela merkel takes to nationwide television staunchly defending her increasingly unpopular migration policy, saying quote, i'm fighting for my vision. it german police find the remains of eight dead babies at a house in bavaria. they're looking for the former occupant, thought to be the baby's mother. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] anchor: welcome to dw. after two days of fighting islamic state militants, kurdish peshmerga forces say they have retaken the key town of sinjar. the president of iraqi kurdistan says the next step is mosul. reporter: these pictures from kurdish television leave little doubt that kurdish fighters are in control of sinjar, though there may sti

, and also it is important to note it was the revival of a kind of islam that really was left behind by many of the jihadist movements that had come before, too. charlie: correct me if i am wrong. my recollection of the story was the some of bin laden to create a city because he thought it would create new problems. verye: yes, it's a ambitious thing. if you put down a whole new flag and you say this is where we are going to attack, you make yourself vulnerable to all sorts of things. middle east is full of that. graeme: if you do have a place where there is enough chaos, there is enough disaffection, a vacuum of power, you have a great opportunity to put down that flag and be fairly sure no one is going to attack you and take it away. maliki government turned out to be much worse than any one expected, including americans who supported them. how does that tiny and? tie in?oes that who is of double that he? >> is nickname growing up was ," because he had a penchant for telling people off. throughout his life, he more and moreard extreme forms and ultraconservative forms of islam unti

with japan. there are not a lot of islamic terrors in japan. when you get to london, i can say for sure that there are a lot of people here that could come into the united states through the visa waiver program. it may cause a problem. if you read instituted a complete visa system, those people, could probably get through. >> you would be profiling, to a certain extent? >> you were just discussing what the israelis do. that is exactly what they do. our willingness to engage in that kind of screening, looking for the people that are potential terrorists as opposed to screening everybody. at the same time, as you indicated right at the top, the finding irony here. tightening up on a visa waiver program. as they said months ago, and inadequate tha trish: why not put the other one on review right now. ensuring that people coming to this country are who they say they are. >> people who claim to be refugees from syria. let's not forget it in terms of trade investment, travel, a whole range of things. we want to facilitate legitimate travel into the united states. everybody from japan. tr

sentence is hanging over her now, thanks to islamic radicals, is here on the larger threat from radical islam. in fact, it was just hours ago that the islamic state terror group posted a new video, promising to "strike america at its center in washington." while the group often posts messages like these, they can take on a chilling new impact when you see pictures like this, from inside the french concert hall moments before the terrorists attacked, and then compare that image to this one. a horrifying aftermath. we have blurred the bodies. as young men, armed with shotguns went from person to person inside that same concert hall, attempting to send a dp s grisly message to the world. our nation's leading homeland security voices are warning today and have been for months that this threat may already be on our doorstep. >> we've arrested over 70 isis followers in the united states over the last year. that's more than one per week. we have investigations in all 50 states. we have 900 investigations ongoing in the united states in the homeland as i speak. you know, you just can't

the islamic terrorism we're seeing go global and the refugees and immigrants we've been seeing coming to europe really since the 1950s are the same. the root cause is a comprehensive and catastrophic failure of middle east and north african islam to produce societies that can provide for their own people. first we saw economic refugees. now we're seeing war refugees and economic refugees. but again, the root cause is the failure of this broad swath of middle eastern civilization. it's not our fault. now, we have to deal with it, but when you deal with it, again, don't confuse cause and effect. do our refugee policies have to become more sensible? more sane? yes, in a sense. we have to differentiate between legitimate refugees such as the christians and other minorities being driven out and slaughtered and driven out by islamic state. and young islamic males of military age who should be fighting for their own countries, the united states, martha, i've heard a lot of people saying, conservatives, saying how do we sort them out? how do we know what we're getting? it's a pretty sa

against the islamic state. fallout from friday's attacks also spreading to neighboring countries, germany, belgium cancelling international soccer matches because of bomb threats but britain and france press on, calmly. defying the islamic statement we'll have a report on the latest developments, and here at home, a growing list of governors refuse to allow syrian refugees into their states. the rising resistance to president obama's insistence on bringing tens of thousands of refugees to america has forced the white house to hold a conference call tonight with the governors and no matter the outcome, it is already clear, president obama has again overstepped himself. >> all of our agencies will make every effort to vet every refugee coming into this country, from the databases to the interviews that those individuals are subject to, to the biometrics screening as well. certainly there are challenges to that process because of the situation in syria. lou: just exactly what does every effort mean? can the governors stop these refugees and this president? house armed services committee memb

of you radical islam, do either of you. >> i don't think the term is what is important. >> do you agree with that character glairks radical islam. >> i don't think we are at war with islam. i don't think we are at war with all muslims. i think we are at war with jihadist. >> i believe calling it what it is, that it is to say radical ji hadis that is calling it what it is. >> larry: so why is it call to call them radical jihadist but not radical islamists. i haven't been this is he mantically confused since learning about the word niggardly. it just-- my head, i don't can't-- dopt use that word. i guess you can, i guess-- now look, i get it, i get it, some people on the left don't want people to conflate islam with radical islam but you know people are going to do that regardless of what you call them. haters going to hate, and conflaters are going to conflate. so why not be clear. i mean the word radical is the key modifier, by saying radical islam by definition are you saying that not all muslims are radical. if anything you hear the term radical islams should clarify our view of

paris on "france 24." i am tom burges watson. and ategic victory major setback for the islamic stat organization. kurdish peshmerga forces seized control of the northern iraqi town of sinjar. a marked man -- u.s. military officials say they are reasonably certain that a drone has killed the islamic state militant dubbed jihadi john. burma's electoral commission confirms that aung san suu kyi's national league of democracy has won enough seats to form a government. tom: good evening. backed up by u.s. air power, kurdish peshmerga forces are reported today to have seized control of the northern iraqi town of sinjar, described as one of the most american setbacks to date for the islamic state organization, because it effectively cuts off vital jihadists.ed by the it is expected to have a significant impact on the bid to free the islamic state stronghold of mosul. reporter: marching into sinjar, just a day after launching in their offensive against the islamic state group stronghold, peshmerga fighters said about attempting to secure the town. >> peshmerga forces are now inside sinjar.

, graeme wood, and ian fisher. >> islamic state has a two-word slogan-- enduring and expanding. both of those have to do with the control of territory and survival. they have staked everything on their ability to build a state and maintain the caliphate. the ideological fight in this war is an actual fight. it is not going to be a war of words. isis is not trying to win over broad muslim appeal to its cause pup don't burn a sunni pilot if you want to win over the masses. they're going for a very narrow segment of society, and it's their political success thatas attracted the recruit. >> it's also important to note that there was a kind of ideological framework that had been laid before isis ever came into being. there was a sense that there was need for a muslim government in a particular form that was answered by the construction of a caliphate. so i have spoken to many people who have been supportive of the group, some of of who have gone to the group to fight, and they would say that the idea of a caliphate, a unified government for all sunni muslims, was something they had wanted fo

attacks, none of the democratic debaters would use the word radical islam. hillary clinton, bernie sanders, mart. o'malley, they all took a page out of the president's book assuming that using the term would be badmouthing all muslims. not true. look at what just happened in mali. gunmen stormed the radisson shouting allahu akbar and then reportedly released some hostages because they could recite the koran. why ignore the obvious religious motivation of the terrorists where it's entirely possible to distinguish their actions from peace loving muslims? on sunday, at a middle school in myrtle beach, ted cruz told reporters the u.s. should accept only christian refugees from syria. senator cruz, our constitution forbids religious tests as a qualification for federal office and it should be the same for refugees. and on monday when asked by the press at g-20 summit in turkey, as to whether he had underestimated isis, the president grew testy. but, mr. president, the questions pointing out that you once referred to isis as a jv squad, and more recently you said that isis was contained,

. if arab governments remain in power, if all of the other governments in the islamic world west and east do the same the caliphate will remain small and ultimately vulnerable. the one great danger is that arabs an other muslims get drawn into an east-west war. the one sure way to ignite that is for the west to begin calling the east the enemy, calling the fight against terrorism a war against islam itself. i believe this is president obama's thinking. and the reason he resents the calls for mass bombing of syria and iraq, why he fears rejection of syrian refugees will trigger more bitterness from the arab world, he refuses to make a call to arms against quote islamic terrorism and why he stubbornly refuses to conflate acts of terrorism with islam itself. today terror struck again, this time in mali, the target a pluxry hotel in the capital, at least 20 people were killed including one american. amman has been covering that attack from brussels. he joins us now. what happened there, give us the facts what happened today in mali. >> reporter: we're still learning a little more about w

recent terrorist attacks from islamic extremist groupup many have misconception s about the religion of islam. so says an iowa city mosque leader who is reaching out to the community. kcrg-tv9's forrest saunders is live in the newsroom thth morning. forrest, how did this leader reach out to the community? well brady, he held a forum yesterday afternoon at the iowa city pupuic library. there he spoke to people about the terrorists groups and how they do not represent his religion. imam molhim bilal explained the islamic faith and its purpose. he compared the definition of terrorism to the faith's beliefs of peace. that was to show that all of the recent violent acts are conmned and not a part of islam. imam bilal says talking about the faith might help end some of the fear surrounding it. he say the quran speaks about peace and nol killing ople. 5:10:11-5:10:26 "the reason why this lecture is that the media and the islamophobia has been increasing a lot in this country. and lots of people are scared of muslims. so we decided to do this to talk to tell people we ar ejust like you. " im

or the ambiguous strategy to fight the islamic state and the excuses for failure to degrade and destroy the islamic state. the government watchdog is now expanding its investigation into allegations the obama warehouse has distorted intelligence assessments with a campaign against the islamic state and the new poll shows a record high of americans 66% don't believe he has a clear idea how to deal with terrorist now ascended like a community organizer mr. obama tried to blame the media for the islamic state the same charges made against republicans over the weekend >> comedienne needs to help. >> how we report on this. and not empowered in any way these terrorist organizations or to elevate them in ways that make it easier for them to recruit or make them stronger. they are a bunch of killers with good social media. lou: and there you have it we will take it up with k.t. mcfarland and dr. volleyed fare is. for the second time in one week groups and syrians have turned up in mexico at a border crossing seeking asylum at honduras trying to get into the united states we don't know t

of a kind of islam that really was left behind by many of the jihadist movements that had come before, too. charlie: help me, tell me if i am wrong, but my recollection of the story was osama bin laden was against creating a state because he thought it would create new problems. graeme: yes, it's a very ambitious thing. if you put down a whole new flag and you say this is where we are going to rally to, this is where to attack if you want to attack us, you make yourself vulnerable to all sorts of things. charlie: the middle east is full of that. graeme: it is something that you can rally two, of course. as ian was just saying, if you do have a place where there is enough chaos, there is enough disaffection, a vacuum of power, you have a great opportunity to put down that flag and be fairly sure no one is going to attack you and take it away. charlie: the maliki government turned out to be much worse than any one expected, including americans who supported them. how does that tie in? and who is al baghdadi? will: he is from a northern part of iraq. his nickname growing up was "t

. he said hours before this attack, isis is contained. he will never say "radical islam." they say man-caused disasters overseas operations. ft. hood according to president obama is workplace violence. how can he be wrong so often on something so serious and now his own intelligence people say don't bring in these refugees and he's insisting on bringing them here. >> that's the very point. the reality is those reporters were frustrated because the president has displayed over and over again -- you have to understand isis. the day before he said they were contained and the next day they attacked paris, this is obviously the man doesn't understand isis. he's not getting good intelligence. he's getting very bad intelligence. he's getting bad intelligence about isis, he's getting bad intelligence about these refugees. also, where are we going to get the information about the refugees? we have nobody there to give us the information. >> the fbi says that there are a thousand active isis probes going on in the u.s. now and the president keeps going out rather than saying the words "radic

defense budget, they have been using it against the islamic state. as well as africa and the middle east. as you know, president along giving special power to the police. that is an immediate response. that has been supported by french political parties, all of them. that is the local response, as well as the arrest and killing of some of the terrorists involved. not all of them, i must say. the second response has been to send the charge the -- charles de gaulle aircraft carrier to the east mediterranean. the last response is the depth -- diplomatic response. prime minister cameron, meeting on wednesday, with a visit to moscow on thursday. i would say that these meetings are critical, they are helping to define the strategy. i have to say, the end of that process will be monday, when 100 world leaders gather in paris for the prop 21 climate conference. this will be away also to attract attention. in addition to a number of measures, such as france invoking the mutual defense and the u.n. unanimously voting for resolution against the islamic state. my worries, first they will talk about

national who fought for the islamic state in syria, french president franÇoise hollande says the french military launched dozens of airstrikes on islamic state targets in raqqa, iraq. his decisive action in contrast to that of president obama who declared in a news conference that he would not fundamentally changes strategy while denigrating those that would seek him as he put it, an immediate resolution. >> the strategy that has the best chance of working, even though it does not offer her the satisfaction, i guess, of a headline or an immediate resolution. >> the president's refusal to act drawing heated this is a from republicans are looking to replace the president next year. president obama also facing a revolt by at least 20 governors who announced the united states should halt acceptance of syrian refugees and we will be talking with one of the governors refusing to allow syrian refugees to be settled in his state. governor phil bryant of mississippi. we will also take of thegovern administration response to theoi terror attacks with director james woolsey. major general bob scal

cameron makes his case for u.k. airstrikes on islamic state targets in syria. he says the u.k. is already at its highest terror threat from jihadist. the french president continues his push for a joint force against the islamic state group after talks with leaders of germany and italy. he sets his sights on a key mating and moscow. its --set to employ after turkey downs one of its planes in disputed circumstances. also coming up this hour, one of brazil's richest men and a senator have been arrested over the corruption scandal at the oil company petrobras. happy thanksgiving to our american viewers. introducingyou -- you to the brand-new totus. this is live from paris. we start in the united kingdom, where the prime minister has been presenting its arguments for why britain should join the international coalition and carry out airstrikes against the islamic state in syria. let's hear what the prime minister had to say. >> action now is that the success in iraq and squeezing the so-called caliphate is put at risk by our failure to act in syria. seriously hamper our efforts if we st

confronts radical islam in a brand-new ad. the 2016 gop presidential contender is here with more. >> we have a choice. either they win or we win. >> then hillary clinton attacks republicans over concerns that isis could infiltrate syrian refugees to act like we're going to shut our borders and pull up the gang plank. that weakens us and validates some of what these terrorists are saying. >> 2016 presidential candidate carly fiorina will respond to her. >> i think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they do to us. >> donald trump promises to get tough on terrorism. is this the right approach to keep you safe? >> if you are in this religion, you probably do have values that are at odds. >> plus bill maher rips his fellow liberals. >> this is what liberals don't want to recognize. >> "hannity" starts right here, right now. welcome to "hannity." terrorism is the american voters' number one concern according to a brand-new fox news poll. 24% of voters rank terrorism as the issue they're most worried about with the economy coming in second. and contrary to what president obama and the d

the islamic state. >> it's time to begin a new phase and intensify and broaden our efforts to smash the would-be caliphate and deny isis control of territory in iraq and syria. that starts with a more effective coalition air campaign. with more allied planes, more strikes and a broader target set. we should also work with the coalition and the neighbors to impose no-fly zones. that will stop assad from slaughtering civilians and the opposition from the air. charlie: french president francois hollande has urged the united states and russia to cooperate against isis. president obama expressed doubts about working with moscow. president obama: there is an increasing awareness on the part of president putin that isil poses a greater threat to them than anything else in the region. the question at this point is whether they can make the strategic adjustment that allows them to be effective partners with us and the other 65 countries who are already part of the counter-isil campaign. and we don't know that yet. charlie: joining me now, general david petraeus. he was commander of u.s. forc

government to be more active in the fight against radical islamic terrorists in light of last weeks attacks in paris. islamists want to murder or forcibly convert anyone they consider an infidel, anyone who doesn't embrace their radical or islamist views. and yet president obama persists in being what is in affect an apologist for radical islamic terrorism." president obama has defended allowing thousands of syrian refugees into the u-s, while there has been push from state lawmakers. "the idea that somehow they pose a more significant threat than all the tourists who pour into the us every single day, just doesn't jive with reality, said president barack obama. thursday, presidential hopeful ted cruz voted against the american safe act. it's a republican backed house measure that would prevent any refugees from syria from entering the us until intelligence officials certify that none of them are dangerous. admits it cannot vet these refugees to determine if there are isis terrorists embedded among them. we know isis wants to embed their terrorists among them. we know they've alread

wants. he says the president doesn't understand something pretty basic. the islamic state is islamic, very islamic. first i want to go to our own ashley webster with you are breaking news. what are they trying to do to find the guy. the 8th terrorist right now? reporter: it has been a frustrating go, there is no doubt about that, trish. by all accounts he was spotted in a city in belgium. he once again managed to stop and slip through the net and is headed to germany. at least that is the belief of authorities. but again, efforts to find him after some 22 raids in brussels overnight and leige failed to turn him up. four people charged in brussels with terrorist attacks. the explosives belt had no detonator, thank goodness. literally 3 1/2 miles south of my location in southern paris in the community of montroge. it was found by a street cleaner under some trash. police are analyzing to see if it has any connection to the attacks on november this. we should point out the paris police are still trying to find out identity of a third suicide bomber who killed himself. they belie

islamic state. 60 people have been injured in those terrorist attacks, they've taken place at least six locations within paris, a number of explosions including grenade explosions and what police say are suicide vest bombs. islamic state friendly accounts are celebrating these attacks online as i speak with you. but there has been no claim of responsibility for the attacks yet. a french police official confirms that there were two suicide attacks, one bombing near the paris stadium, the stade de france stadium. first confirmed attack was at the stadium where a soccer match was taking place between france and germany. two bombs exploded just outside the stadium. many people did not realize what was happening at the time. the second attack, as you see on the map, a restaurant, a shooting taking place and also into a crowd at a public square popular among young people on a friday night. the third attack took place at the concert hall, and about 100 hostages were taken. a few people have succeeded in running away. some say as many as as doen escaped the terrorists. security forces have laun

strike yesterday was the islamic state spokesman who appeared in this execution video which showed egyptian christians beheaded on the shores in february. this is the first u.s. strike against an isil leader in libya, and it demonstrates we will go after isil leaders wherever they operate being said today. it was shear coincidence it was days after a u.s. drone killed a brit known as jihadi john as he got into a car in raqqa, syria. he, too, appeared in video showing western hostages being beheaded. sean? >> this is now playing into the american presidential election we have going on. the democratic debate earlier tonight. i don't think we are at war with radical islam. hillary clinton said. bernie sanders, doubling down, still believes climate change is our biggest national security threat, even after paris. are people in washington within the ranks you're talking to every day, are they listening to this? >> well, i just heard the candidates talking in that debate, saying they still think that the u.s. should allow 65,000 syrian refugees to come into the country. and what was clea

, tactically against the islamic state in iraq and then in syria, there still is going to be a battle. there still will be extremists ideas. there will still be individuals who will be animated by those ideas, there will still be those who propagate those ideas. >> rose: david petraeus for the hour next. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: we begin this evening with ongoing coverage of the recent paris attacks. questions continue to surround the global response. last week, former secretary of state hillary clinton called irvegz. >> it's final to begin a new phase and intensify and broaden our efforts to smash the would-be caliphate and deny i.s.i.s. control of territory in iraq and syria. that starts with a more effectively coalition air campaign, with more allied planes, more strikes and a broader target set. we should also work with the coalition and the neighbors to impose

francois hollande he's airstrikesto back against islamic state in syria warplanes launched their first mission from the aircraft carrier charles de gaulle. we begin with developments in the french investigation into the paris terror attacks on friday, november 13 in which 106 people were killed. now reuters and associated press news agencies are quoting that a suicide vest has been found in the garbage can in the south of paris. it was uncovered by a street cleaner this monday. they say a mobile phone was traced to that area the night of the attacks. now to brussels, belgium police have launched a new rate in the hunt for the fugitive suspect. this is a city grappling with the third day of unprecedented security measures that has seen close subways, shopping districts and now schools. so far 21 people have been detained, four of which have been charged with involvement in the paris attacks. the belgian prime minister said the lockdown will most likely end on wednesday. that the threat of it attack is imminent in serious and we want to ask our population to stay calm and alert. we've ha

a call fite and implementing islamic law along certain lines. so it is important that their territory is taken away, eroded. and if they simply become al qaeda that is a nonterritorial terrorist organization then a lot of what they promised the utopian image is gone. that is an important aspect of fighting them. >> you both say that isis wants the west to attack them. why is that? >> this is part of their snare. osama bin laden anticipated the u.s. would next go into iraq. and he was hoping this would be the case. because iraq would be a sign for an international casting call of the likes of which had nonbeen seen since the soviet-afghan war. dabiq, the name of the magazine, the way they have chosen this, it's in the theology that this is where the arm gettageddon isg to take place. there is a quote in -- which is the front of every issue of dabiq, i'm going to let the cleansing fires of the apocalypse begins in dabiq. the irony, of course that bashar al assad's regime was going into iraq. and this is blowback in the classic definition of the term. they want the west to come

putting the parliament, french people and islamic state on notice. use sending in the military plus the guns to a region he describes as the biggest manufacturing center of terrorists in the world. also coming up, a major manhunt underway for the eight suspects in friday's attacks. salah abdeslam is being sought. and barack obama rules out u.s. ground troops in syria and g 20 leaders meeting in turkey pledged to tighten their borders and share more intelligence to stop the terrorists. it's good to have you with us. the president of france stood before a joint session of parliament today and delivered a 21st century declaration of war, war against terrorists and war against the cowards he says want to destroy us all and the battlefield, they are domestic and foreign. he's calling for a drastic tightening of security and extending the state of emergency at home. outside the country, the french military has a renewed mission to fight. our coverage against tonight in paris. reporter: francois hollande, heading for one of the most important speeches of his career. the solemnity of the fr

does weaken the fight against islamic state. president francois hollande could play a role. hurts andally complicates things for president ollanta because he is here with the full support of his public to see a stronger international response against islamic state. he wants the united states to step up, he wants the russians to redirect their airpower from the syrian and sunni targets and turned to islamic state. what he got today in the big obamarm with president and impress conference is being diminished by this crisis between turkey and russia. erik: thank you very much. a quick commercial break on bloomberg. full coverage of the joint press conference from the white house just minutes from now. ♪ mark: welcome back to bloomberg markets. this is the european close. erik: time for the bloomberg business flash. coca-cola's chief science and health officer is leaving the company after they were criticized for funding and anti-obesity group. cook shapes the group's agenda, and is $1.5 million to the global energy balance network. they helped to pick the group leaders, and mission

on the lifestyle from these murderers of the act of islamism and these people show they will not have their lifestyle change. >> and all religion and all race races. not just french all french who enjoy going to a night out or restaurant or football/soccer game et cetera all those targets were carefully chosen by fanatics to say we do not agree with the way you live and we want to divide you. if i know one thing about parisian parisians, you don't tell them what to do. they'll still be out and enjoying what makes them intrinsically parisian. >> while this is a painful reminder of what happened with charlie hebdo, it is against terrorism. the first suicide bomber a man who exploded himself at the first soccer stadium outside paris, he came to europe as part of an organized group smuggled with refugees. they landed a month ago on an island and he was carrying a passport of syria, his statedvy country of origin and we will learn later if that is correct, shineing a light how you treat the refugees how much you can know within their desperation, there is also opportunity for evil. >> and