>> from our studios in new york, this is "charlie rose." charley: samuel l. jackson is here, the highest grossing actor of all time with $10 billion in worldwide ticket sales. his newest film "the hateful eight" is the sixth collaboration with quentin tarantino. tarantino has said jackson is one of the greatest actors to ever say my dialogue. here is the trailer for the hateful eight. >> what makes a man brave a blizzard, kill in cold blood? i'm sure i don't know. >> you would be surprised what a man would do. starting to see pictures eight you? -- ain't you? >> i'm not anxious to be handing out a ride. >> real trusting fellow. >> not so much. >> who are you? >> ok everybody. i'm taking this woman to hang. reward is $10,000. that money is mine. >> that's interesting. >> get back on that with her. >> one of them will kill everybody in here. >> now we're talking. >> let's slow it down. let's slow it way down. >> when you get to hell tell them daisy sent you. >> no one said this job is supposed to be easy. >> nobody said it is supposed to be that hard neither. charlie: you like it.

♪ announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: neil degrasse tyson is here and may know him as the most powerful nerd in the universe. he calls himself a servant of science. he is the longtime drafter of the planetarium and new york and also the host of a new talk show on the national geographic channel called "star talk." it brings the universe down to earth. i am pleased to have neil degrasse tyson back at his table. welcome. >> we go way back, my first time is in the 90's. i would say that i'm in the family. thank you. charlie: congratulations. >> we are all very happy about that. we think it is the first time ever that there is a science talk show on television. we did not do it for that purpose, but it just turned out that way. charlie: what i like in reading about it is a came to you and wanted you to do a television show and you said, why do you just bring the cameras into my radio show? that will be just fine. >> i wanted to keep it simple. i didn't want to do anything more. there was budget to do set dressing and part of that as we fil

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: super bowl 50 will kick off on sunday, february 7th, at levi's stadium in santa clara, california. carolina panthers will face off against afc's denver broncos. the game features the nfl's best defense in denver against the league's likely m.v.p., quarterback cam newton. after an injury-plagued season, the broncos quarterback peyton manning pursues his second super bowl title. there is speculation that this could be the final game in peyton manning's storied career. bill cowher was the coach of the pittsburgh steelers for 15 years. he went to afc championship's and a super bowl title in 2006. he is currently a studio analyst for the nfl today on cbs. i'm enormously pleased to have you back at this table. bill, welcome. bill: good to be here, charlie. charlie: is it as simple as i just suggested? the best defense against the m.v.p.? >> it comes down to that. it is ironic, we sat there with the commissioner and watched the super bowl a few years ago. we watched the denver broncos. at the time, they were the nu

there was the potential for contact that im, it struck me wanted to -- charlie: to do what, sean? clearly there are a huge problem with drugs in america. it is a terrible thing. most of us understand that and we have not been able to do very much about it. a lot of those drugs come from mexico from people like el chapo , who provide them. but what is going to see him going to do about it other than somehow getting a lot of attention? >> for myself, it has always been true, inescapably true, that i feel complicit in the suffering going on in those prisons because i am not thinking about it every day. i'm not watching these laws showing no progression, these rehabilitations that are not happening. so i am looking the other way. i find that equally complicit juarez.ders in warez -- as a culture, if we don't start to focus that way, i feel it that way. when i spend time with that person, there but for fortune -- that's true of most people. if not themselves, a child of theirs, abbas of theirs, the library and down the street that if given circumstances, any of us could go to those pl

>> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie: rem koolhaas is here. he is one of the most influential architects who works today. he is an author, theorist, and a professor at harvard. some of his most notable projects include the cctv headquarters in beijing, and casa da musica in portugal. the two major buildings have been opened in the last year are the garage museum of contemporary art in moscow and the prada in milan. i am pleased to have him back at this table. we missed out two years ago when you were in venice. it continues to be a great life for you. rem: it is an amazing life because it enables me to be at places where things are radically changing. there is a need to articulate a particular ambition. there is a need to intervene in a situation. it is really a great opportunity. charlie: what you do, you have to define the time we are in. rem: my role is a reporter who is simply alert and describing changes. as you describe the change, you find the opportunities where to intervene. a sense of forming -- a moment in time when things are changing fr

individual ever to et foot in this courtroom. >> the truth always comes out. â charlie: joining me are the directors of making a murderer. i am pleased to have them at this table. for the first time. >> thank you, charlie. charlie: how did the start for both of you? >> back in november of 2005 graduate film students at we werecolumbia diversity of the arts. steven avery appeared on the front page of the new york times the headline read "freed by d.n.a., now charged in new crime." we recognized steven as this potentially unique window into the system, as somebody who had been failed by the system in 1985. he now found himself back in 20 years later. charlie: when you look at it and looked at his conviction for the second time, -- >> he had really just been charged. in the murder of teresa halbach. as laura said this idea of this man failed for 18 years by the system, there had been opportunities for the system to correct itself and it hadn't and now he was stepping back in 20 years later nan that 20 years there had been advances in d.n.a. there had been legislative reforms. there was a

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin with politics. nine presidential candidates have six days to go until the iowa caucuses. a new fox news survey shows hillary clinton ahead of bernie sanders by six points among iowa democrats. donald trump maintains a commanding lead over ted cruz and the rest of the gop field. joining me is glenn thrush, chief political correspondent for politico. i am pleased to have him back. welcome. glenn: great to be here. charlie: let's talk about the republicans in iowa. what does it look like at this moment? glenn: this looks like a two-man race, donald trump, who is really within the margin of error with ted cruz. trump really seems to be working for it this time. my former colleague, maggie, who you know well, at the new york times, wrote a story a couple of days ago talking about how trump is starting to sleep in motels and go to churches. cruz obviously has a bit of an inherent advantage with evangelicals, who make up a large percentage of the base their, but trump scored a major endorsement today with

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." ian bremmer is here, the president and founder of a political risk consulting firm. the company published its annual risk report today, outlining the main geopolitical developments to watch in the coming year. this year includes the transatlantic alliance, an increasingly closed euro, china's global footprint, as well as isis. arabia is another country on the list. the country's prime minister announced that trade and diplomatic links to iran would be cut. tensions between the two countries inflamed after saudi arabia executed a shia muslim cleric with 46 others. i am priest -- pleased to have ian bremmer back at this can -- at this table. how do you go about compiling this list? what do you in your team do, and what are you looking for when you talk about the top risk of 2016? ian: number one, we keep these up on our homepage for the entire year, so i can't just be hitting the headlines this week and making news, it has to actually stick. andave over 130 people, everyone at the beginning is asked to come up with their

>> from our studios in new york, this is "charlie rose." we begin with politics. much talk about the republicans, but the race for the democratic nomination has intensified. senator bernie sanders said hillary clinton's criticism of his stance on gun control and health care signals her campaign is in trouble. he took the lead in new hampshire according to an nbc poll. he is closing the gap in iowa. thrush.me now is glenn in washington, peter nicholas. here in new york, amy chozick at the new york times. i am pleased to have them here as we talk about the democratic race. what is going on? how do we evaluate the sanders surge? amy: the clinton people have said they expected poles to narrow but you have seen a jarring strategic change. she went from barely mentioning bernie sanders to hitting him hard. every signal is they are nervous. they could lose iowa and new hampshire and that could send a ripple effect of losing donors and having to scramble. she could still capture the nomination but they are bracing for that. charlie: does it make her up your weekend? other people could co

>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin this evening with the middle east and the sunni/shiah divide. kuwait cut diplomatic ties with iran. a decision to execute a prominent shiah cleric in response to the attack on the saudi embassy. talk about this is voni sauser. in washington webbedy sherman. she's a fellow at the harvard kennedy school. she held the role of deputy united states with the u.s. leading negotiator in the nuclear deal with iran. also david sanger a national security correspondent and new york phillip gordon a senior fellow of the foreign relations and was former special assistant for the president and coordinator for the u.s. and north africa. i begin with phillip gordon. where are we? phillip: we're in a situation that's even more complicated than we were three or four days ago. charlie: because more people got involved or because no one seems to be backing them up? phillip: they face the split not -- between sunni and sigh shiah but iran. it's driving the conflict in yemen. it's driving the saudi poll san antonio oil. it's

announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: these women and men led important lives. they enriched society through their passion, their art in their enterprise. over the last 24 years, they came to this program for conversation. here is a look back at those moments. >> they did not ask for much except the opportunity to make it. but my father, ironically, who was a ditch digger had more opportunity than a lot of people who were educated. he had a job. he was only a ditch digger, but there was a ditch. and he worked. so the most fundamental thing you can give people is an opportunity to earn their own bread with dignity and with a chance to move up. that my father had. it is kind of ironic. he did not have much else. but you gave him the chance to make it on his own. we are not doing that for people now. charlie: how do you best do that? >> yes. i think one of the worst things you can do and trying to provide the answer to that question is to use all the magic -- language of the politician. i think what you ought to do is address the question with

announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: mohamed el-erian is here. he is chief economic advisor at allianz, the corporate parent of pimco, where he was previously the ceo. he is a columnist for bloomberg view and a contributing editor for the "financial times." his latest book examines the impact of central banks across the world since the financial crisis. it is called "the only game in town: central banks, instability, and avoiding the next collapse." i'm pleased to have him back at this table. welcome. mohamed: thank you. charlie: why the title? mohamed: that is what has been happening in the policymaking side. there has only been one entity around the world -- central banks. they have taken a huge burden, well in excess of what they can deliver. politicians have stood on the sideline leaving it up to the banks. charlie: you're saying monetary policy and fiscal policy was not effective because nobody could make it happen. mohamed: correct. and now, we are going to live with the consequences of having pursued too many objectives with an imper

network founder charlie ergen speaks out. charlie: i think we have a lot to talk about now. betty: for the first time on bloomberg television, ergen weighs in on the seismic shift taking place in television. his plans to become the next big wireless company and why he may be looking to merge with that guy, the pink t-shirt wearing t-mobile ceo john ledger. charlie: they certainly have done a fantastic job, being an upstart company, the uncarrier, so to speak. betty: but the famously tough boss faces questions about his management style. charlie: we have high expectations, and if you are not somebody who is used to high expectations, you're just not as comfortable here. betty: join me as charlie ergen dishes it all out on this edition of "titans at the table." ♪ hello, i am betty liu. welcome to "titans at the table." dish network founder charlie ergen has always been something of a fearless renegade. from being thrown out of casinos for counting cards to selling satellites out of his car trunk around colorado. ergen led a group that started echostar in the 1980's and then started dis

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose". charlie: we began with politics. now for the latest on the 2016 presidential race sarah palin is , back and campaigning for donald trump. one of the developments that has come out in the run-up to the iowa caucuses. they are managing editors of bloomberg politics and the cohosts of "with all due respect." they are at laconia, new hampshire at a cafÉ. we are pleased to have them joining us. what is the name of the cafÉ? >> the water street cafÉ. it is lovely. charlie: i wish i was there. tell me where hillary clinton stands today in new hampshire and what she can do to change that dynamic? >> she is well behind. there is a pull out this week that shows her 30 behind. nobody thinks that's where she is. iowa has gotten worse for her and she has to do three things at once. she has to stop sanders' momentum. she needs to have a closing argument that has a positive and negative message. her husband was here, best i have seen in a long time. it wasn't vintage clinton 1992, but it was very strong. she is in trouble in th

>> from our studios in new york, this is charlie rose. rose: we begin with wall street and global markets. another volatile day for global markets. points.jones down 249 the index has a ready retreated more than 9% this year. china remains in focus. she is chief investment officer at goldman sachs. her team remains cautiously optimistic. you are cautiously optimistic. >> we are close to the end but we're not quite there yet. until it is over it's not over. there is still a little bit more left. not a lot. so are expected return is going into 2016 was a very modest three to 4% type return. however, with everything going on in the marketplace we're getting all kinds of calls from our clients should we stay invested? the market is down 10%. will it go down another 10% or another 30? this is one of the roughest starts to a year we have ever seen. go back to 1928. if you look at the lows we have today, that you just quoted, this would have been the worst first two and a half weeks of the year that we have ever seen if we look at the lows through today. if not, it would have been the wo

would hear about the big shootout. charlie rose: the reason you had was that you believed the mexican government did not want to see him alive or did not see him talk. because he had information that you believe would be damaging to reputations at the highest levels of the mexican society. penn: i do want to implicate the marines who executed the action. had he stayed and fought out in that apartment that would've been the end. he came into an area that also had some exposure on the streets. he gave them an opportunity to take him alive. and they did. the similar situation as it turns out not similar in libya. already was clear that having taken prisoner allies that a decision was made not to. to let qaddafi live. charlie rose: but they did let him live. they captured him alive. he is back in the same jail he was in. penn: despite the incredible corruption, there is still more good people do bad in the mexican government. charlie rose: when you look at where he sits now. what you think is going to happen? sean penn: you know the attitude of the cartel you know what efforts they went t

♪ from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: in nine months, the country will elect the 45th president of the united dates. national security is dominating the campaign in a way we have seldom seen. many challenges are bound to the president's successor. mike morel has served as cia's deputy and acting director. he has served several presidential and vice president candidates. he has written a fascinating new book called "the great war of our time." i am pleased to have him back at this table. welcome. mike: always great to be here. charlie: let me just talk about january 2017. from what we know now, and this will relate to the campaign underway in terms of the debate going on in the country, or the debate that should be going on, what does the new president face? i think, charlie, that on day one the president faces two very significant but very different challenges. the first is, what do you do about the middle east, and the second is, what do you do about china? two second-tier challenges. one of them is, what do you do about russia and vladimir putin,

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." steven avery was wrongly convicted of sexual assault and attempted murder in 1985. he served 18 years and a wisconsin state prison before he was exonerated by dna evidence in 2003. in 2005, shortly after filing a lawsuit against the county that wrongly convicted him. avery became the prime suspect in the murder of teresa hall buck. a new network's documentary chronicles his prosecution and eventual conviction, it is called, "making a murderer." new york times calls it an, compulsive, unpredictable. here is the trailer from "making a murderer." steven avery spent 18 years in prison for something he did not do. >> 18 years. >> 18 years. >> dna came through indicating that he had not committed the crime. >> law enforcement officers realize that they had screwed up big time. >> we were getting ready to bring a lawsuit of $36 million to manitowoc county itself. and the sheriff and the da would be on the hook for those damages. >> they are not heading that kind of money over to steven avery. i told them to be careful, they a

announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: the remnant is a new film based on the 2002 novel. explores the existence of first rappers in the 1820's. plays hughcaprio glass, a legendary frontiersman who suffered a bear attack, was left for dead by his companions, and crawled to utter miles to safety. here's a look at the trailer. >> the only thing to do is track on land. >> meanwhile we set out here like ducks. i am talking to you. >> the proper thing to do it be quick.ish him off i understand. >> what happened? we did what we had to do. >> he was buried. >> all i had was that more -- boy. you took them from me, do you understand? he is afraid. he knows how far i came to find him. >> i ain't afraid to die anymore. i have done it already. charlie: joining me now is the director. he won three academy awards in quite 15 for this film, "bird star, leonardo dicaprio. the writer describes his -- a writer describes his performance is a ferocious commitment. i am pleased to have them both here at this time. welcome. i love this quote, mrs. you in the hollo

>> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. we began with politics. not to the latest on the twice 16 presidential race. sarah palin is back and campaigning for donald trump. one of the developments that has run-up to the ra caucuses. they are managing editors of bloomberg politics and the cohost of "with all due respect." at a cafe. where please to have them joining us. tell me where hillary clinton stands today in new hampshire and what she can do to change that dynamic? that is whereks she is, 30 behind but she is. iowa has gotten worse for her and she has to do three things at once. on has to stop sanders' antenna. she needs to have a closing argument that has a positive and negative message. her husband was here, best i have seen in a long time. .t was very strong she is in trouble in these two states and as we have discussed before if she loses either numerically or in terms of perception, iowa and new hampshire, there is not a political analyst who can tell you just how hard that will be for her going forward but it will be hard. charlie: that seems to go

charlie: joaquin guzman is one of the world's most famous druglords. for months, the mexican government struggled to locate him. kate del castillo was in contact with him. she arranged a meeting between el chapo, herself, and sean penn. penn wrote a 10,000 word account in "rolling stone" magazine. el chapo was arrested by the marines monday before the story was published. i sat down for an exclusive interview with sean penn. we talked about all the questions that have arisen from this remarkable story. why does sean penn, an actor, and writer, and adventurer want to go to mexico to interview a drug lord who has escaped from prison with a notorious reputation for doing terrible things and supplying a lot of drugs to america? what is the point? mr. penn: i think myself, and a generation of americans, have been on a treadmill of seeing the same stories in the press, the same movies where the policy of the war on drugs which so deeply affects all of our lives seems not to change. it seems to be so unmovable. in its focus on these druglords, do we often lose focus that with all of

>> this is charlie rose. charlie rose: the revenant is a explores a brutal existence of first trappers with working on the missouri river. leonardo dicaprio plays the legendary frontiersman who suffered a bear attack and was left for dead i his companions and he crawled 200 miles to safety. >> the proper thing to do it be to finish him off quick. i understand. >> what happened? we did what we had to do. >> he was buried. >> all i had was that more -- boy. you took them from me, do you understand? he is afraid. he knows how far i came to find him. >> i ain't afraid to die anymore. i have done it already. charlie: joining me now is the director. he won three academy awards in quite 15 for this film, "bird man." and the star, leonardo dicaprio. the writer describes his -- a writer describes his performance is a ferocious commitment. i am pleased to have them both here at this time. welcome. i love this quote, mrs. you in the hollow it -- hollywood review. with leo, i said, i would love to see you fragile, vulnerable, to see the man that could be broken, he was very excited by tha

♪ announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: he is a wide-ranging voice with the force of an entire brass section, or possibly windtunnel, distilled into a single instrument. book that written a chronicles his legendary career. it is called "over the top and back." he has just released his 41st studio album. here is tom jones in our studio performing "elvis presley blues" from his album "long-lost suitcase." ♪ >> ♪ i was thinking that night about elvis the day that he died the day that he died i was thinking that night about elvis the day that he died the day that he died just a country boy that combed his red hair he put on the shirt his mother made and he went on the air and he shook it like a chorus girl yeah, he shook it like a harlem queen he shook it like a midnight rambler, baby like you never seen, you never seen i was thinking that night about elvis the day that he died day that he died i was thinking that night about elvis the day that he died day that he died how he took it all out of black-and-white he grabbed his wand in the

announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. begin this evening with wall street, global markets, and the global economy. , the dow jones closed down 240 nine points after sinking as low as 560 five points. the index has already retreated more than nine percent this year. china remains in focus a day after the government announced gdp had fallen 7%. 's chiefmossavar-rahmani of investment at goldman sachs. she remains confident about the outlook of stocks. i am pleased to have her here. welcome. you are cautiously optimistic, notwithstanding what happened at the turn of 2016? sharmin: yes, we are. we are close to the end, but we are not quite there. charlie: until it's over. it'sin: until it's over, not over. whether we are talking about equity markets, the economic recovery or the dollar rally, there is still a little left, not a lot. our return going into 2016 was a modest 3%-four percent type return for u.s. equities, moderate growth, and some elements left in the dollar rally. however, with everything going on in the marketplace, we are getting all kinds

charlie: he is a wide-ranging voice with the force of an entire brass section, or windtunnel, distilled into a single instrument. he has just released his 41st studio album. here is tom jones in our studio presleying "elvis aslee "ues" from his album long-lost suitcase." ♪ ♪ i was thinking that night about elvis the day that he died i was thinking that night about elvis as aay that he died country boy that combed his red hair he put on the shirt his mother made and he went on the air girlook it like a chorus and he shook it like a harlem queen he shook it like a midnight rambler, baby like you never seen, like you seen ♪een, never ♪ i was thinking that night about elvis the day that he died day that he died i was thinking that night about elvis, the day that he died, day that he died ♪ ♪ how he took it all out of black-and-white grabbed his wand in the other hand and he held on tight ♪ ♪ he shook it like a hurricane he shook it like to make it break and he shook it like a holy roller, baby , his souloul at stake at stake ♪ ♪ i was thinking that night about

>> from our studios in new york, this is "charlie rose." charlie: "the revenant" is a new film based on the 2002 novel. it explores the existence of fur trappers in the 1820's. leonardo dicaprio plays hugh glass, a legendary frontiersman who suffered a bear attack, was left for dead by his companions, and crawled 200 miles to safety. here's a look at the trailer. the only thing to do is track on land. >> meanwhile we set out here like ducks. i am talking to you. [screaming] >> the proper thing to do it be to finish him off quick. >> cared for on necessary. -- he should be cared for as long as necessary. >> what happened? we did what we had to do. >> he was buried right. that boy.ad was and you took him from me, you understand? he's afraid. he knows how far i came to find him. ♪ >> i ain't afraid to die anymore. i have done it already. charlie: joining me now is the director. he won three academy awards in 2015 for this film, "bird man." and the star, leonardo dicaprio. i am pleased to have both of them at this table at the time. thank you for coming. i love this book. this is

>> good evening, i am matthew dowd sitting in for charlie rose who is on assignment. president obama will deliver his final state of the union on tuesday. he is expected to touch on three themes, the economy, and civic participation. his chief of staff said it would provide a contrast of what he called the doom and gloom of the leading contenders in the republican presidential race. the gop race in iowa remains close as donald trump and ted cruz run neck and. marco rubio -- and again neck. cruz run neck and neck. marco rubio is in third. mont n new york, frank z, a political consultant. and tavis smiley. welcome. let me start with you. the state of the union tomorrow night. the state ofhink the union is for most americans tuning and tomorrow? >> it is a lot better than it was seven years ago, but i am not sure the perception is that much different. i think people feel this has been an uneven recovery. it has been a pronounced recovery. 5% unemployment. that is half of what it was 6.5 years ago, but i am not sure that feeling is as pervasive as most people feel. matthew: frank,

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." thisie: we've again evening with the middle east and the tensions fueling the sunni-shia divide. kuwait became the fifth country to cut down diplomatic ties with iran. the fallout was linked to the decision to execute a prominent shia cleric last week. in response, there was an attack on the embassy in tehran on saturday. joining me is probably not serve nasr, wendy sherman, who was a leading u.s. negotiator with iran. also, david singer, the you are times -- the new york times national security correspondent, and phil gordon. i am pleased to have all of them on this program. i begin with philip gordon. where are we? we are in a situation that is even more difficult than it was a few days ago. charlie: because more people have gotten involved, or because more people seem to be backing down? key too, because the these situations is the splits between saudi arabia and iran. that is driving the conflicts in syria, yemen, driving the policy the policyl, driving on executions, and so many other things in the region. the p

>>> it's around my neck. >> charlie sheen, his new at home interview after his hiv revelation. >> and the people's choice awards arrest. what the talk ladies told me backstage after a man stormed the stage. >> we're like a motley crew. >> no. >> i was a little scared. >> i didn't understand what was. >> sharon k cheryl enraged. security! >> don't mess with us. >> i like them together as well. >> ellen outing kendall and harry as a couple. big bang exes getting cuddly and lady gaga's future mother-in-law. >> inside charlie sheen's new hiv update with dr. oz. >> how scared are you? >> that's a difficult voyage. >> also -- the death of one day at a time's schneider. what we know about his battle with alzheimer's. plus, the x files 20 years after its debut. >> they're meant to be together. >> and -- >> inside the new stunt, stealing the mayor's job. zblutly not absolutely not! >> now in our 35th season, there is "entertainment tonight." >> hello, everyone. charlie sheen's hiv diagnosis may be saving his life. that story is on the way. first, the people's awards. it brought out an

after 12 people were murdered on the attack of a french satirical newspaper, charlie hebdo. >> we did not publish we caved in to intimidation and i don't think we'll get less intimidation because of that. we are telling the system that it works. >> are rose's name and face appeared on the laid editor of charlie hebdo. >> what can be more peaceful? >> i spoke with flemming rose on the first american publication of his book "the tyranny of silence." >> i've got to start with the horror of what happened in paris. what did you think when you heard about the attack on charlie hebdo? >> i was shocked. i mean, i was grieving because i knew some of these people. but i was not surprised. in 2006 when the danish embassies were burning in beirut and damascus and tehran, i was shocked and surprised. it seemed very unreal. so i couldn't relate it -- to it in a serious way. but this time, it hit me very hard, because it couldn't come as a surprise to anyone who has been following events over the past nine years. >> and i want to talk about those events. that started when you published those car

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie: we begin with hugh hewitt. he is the radio host of his radio show. he also moderated two recent republican debates and we are pleased to have him back on this program. welcome. >> thank you, it is good to be back. charlie: size of this confrontation between donald trump and fox news? is it about what it seems to be about? >> no soup for you. do remember that famous line? that is what he just said to that fox news. it is really about him master marketer taken control of eight situation that is fluid. putting his foot any position where it stomps on every other story in the news cycle, sort of like hey mark -- sort of like kmart before it hurricane. so no matter what the show is, we are all talking about donald trump. i did it on my radio show today. he is brilliant. he is brilliant in anyway that has broken every rule and destroyed every obstruction to ordinary political coverage. my hat is off to him as they simple matter of professional marvel. whether or not this is good for the republican party or the count

back charlie cook. tonight's debate is the final debate before democrats vote in iowa and new hampshire. howou look at this race does this stack up? charlie cook: they say gosh isn't this exciting. not really. if you believe that the biblical process is important and you believe that the presidency is , some of thething aspects of this campaign are not pleasant. you are seeing some folks running who are necessarily qualified for the job. odyis something of a par of the presidential race. but you have to deal with what you got. advisors to hillary clinton believes that her campaign made some serious miscalculations when it was challenged by bernie sanders. tonight in south carolina along with martin o'malley. cook: perhaps the clinton folks didn't take sanders as seriously as they should have. it would be a horrible mistake for him to them to go after him very hard right now. youthfulng to need his supporters in a general election. going to-old is not naturally get the enthusiasm that barack obama got in 2008. the danger of clinton losing to bernie sanders is very very small. i