images of mr. cosby's arrest. on thursday the "new york daily news" cover, all those "she saids quarterback" echoed the sentiment of july's ""new york" magazine" cover which featured a 35 of the women accusing cosby of misconduct and the empty chair to represent survivors of sexual assault by anyone who have not come forward. 57. i've been thinking about this number a lot. the sheer weight of the possibility that dozens of women have silently endured the trauma and shame of surviving sexual assault at the hands after single assailant. even the remote possibility that we as a nation were complicit in the silence, that we turned away from allegations because it was just too painful even to imagine seeing exactly what we saw this week. "ebo "ebony" mag zeer cazine capture perfectly. no matter what legal outcome of the case the national rupture of mr. cosby, evenly if only one accuser has a day in court, even if mr. cosby is not found guilty -- 57 is just too many to ignore. 57. but here's a lingering request he for me. why is it so often true that one woman is in fact so easy to ig

ruled on mr. cosby's -- i should say, mrs. cosby's emergency motion to have the court prevent her deposition being taken now, so she can appeal the magistrate's ruling. magistrate judge hennessy entered an order saying that she was entitled to appeal his ruling and to afford her her right to appeal, he was going to put her deposition on hold until the appeal is heard and decided. >> and just to remind people how we got here, camille cosby and their team of lawyers has been fighting against this deposition essentially, a while ago filing a motion to stop it, to quash it, to stop it from happening at all. last week, the judge basically took your side and said no, it's going to move forward, it's going to be on wednesday morning and now this is the judge saying i'm going to grant a stay while they appeal that decision. >> right. the judge didn't change his decision. he just said that, look, the judge made a decision. mrs. cosby wanted to eliminate her deposition. the judge said, no, under the law, the women are entitled to take mrs. cosby's deposition. that ruling still stands. the o

reduced charge, a plea bargain and a nonjail sentence i don't think mr. cosby is ever going to get to a place where he would admit any realm of guilt. >> all right. in the civil case against cosby, a federal judge ruled that his wife camille can be deposed by an attorney representing seven women who claimed cosby sexually abused him. what is the significance of that ruling and can it have an effect on the criminal case? a number of lawyers are saying, but no, there's the spousal privilege. >> exactly. exactly. so the spousal privilege protects certain communications, todd, but not all communications. so in a civil context that's much less burden and therefore camille could be pressured to be deposed. but in a criminal context, the burden is so much higher and the privilege is so much more secure within that marital relationship that i seriously doubt that camille would be compelled to testify. >> understood. i kind of agree with you on that one. let's switch gears now. i want to ask about the so called affluenza case. it's big news all over the country. the mother of ethan couch ba

want you know they don't know mr. cosby, i don't know the evidence or the accuser, but he has a right to fair trial, and having been through what i have been through with michael jackson, i'm a little alarmed by this, this ground swel of opposition. >> well here is what is different, because you 57 ak kirzs is one thing, and the settlement whichly ask you about in ooh second, and cosby oes own words in that deposition that started this all framing the case. you had bill cosby admitting to carrying around the quaaludes to meet women and wanting to have sex with them. >> sure. >> and says he offered over and over again to give them money, but could it be when it comes to the deposition, and the criminal case, it is bill cosby's own words that could come back to be used against him? >> in the michael jackson case, they called 85 witnesses against him, and said that he had been molest i molesting young men for year, and they took his own words out of the martin beshear documentary and said those words would cook him. all over to the world, and the media representatives were saying t

the other hand, if they do that, mr. cosby may be forced to testify at a deposition and assert his fifth amendment privilege because the criminal case is going on. what his spouse can do i think is going to be heavily litigated because she has a right not to testify to confident communications between she and her husband. on the other hand, as his business manager, there may be a set of issues which a judge will decide are not confidential because they go beyond spousal communications into the realm of unprotected, unprivileged business discussions. fascinating issue. >> it is fascinating, especially when you weigh in camille cosby's lawyers and their words in using this. when the lawyers called the subpoena for her testimony, calling this a fishing expedition, arguing her potential knowledge of crosby's sexual proclivities are irrelevant to the case. that was the argument. why did it fall short? >> i think it's stretching things. to talk to a spouse who has a right to have confidential discussions with her spouse, to go into her knowledge of his sex life i think is way over the pa

in this op-ed when they say what's the real difference between bill clinton and bill cosby. >> so, again, number one, it's a ridiculous analogy just like mr. trump disparaging john mccain. why we take anything that man says seriously, that's who you just quoted. hillary clinton is running for president and he's attacking bill clinton and making ridiculous comparisons about bill clinton. what does that have to do with hillary clinton? again, if i'm a woman and i hear trump attacking a husband as a reason for not voting for a wife, bill clinton is popular. he's already been through all of those ridiculous analogies and came out with a 65% approval rating. so those people who were too young to remember will know that bill clinton remains one of the most popular people since he left the presidency as well as when he was president. >> let's talk about some of the polls out and perhaps you can explain what you believe is happening here in new hampshire and iowa. bernie sanders certainly leading at least in one news poll. you have him at 53% in new hampshire. the iowa number also shows a