with china as north korea's patron as a world where north korea isolates itself, where north korea doesn't have enough money why again would they be doing this? wouldn't they be wanting to say to china you're our oanld friend, let's kee only friend,let's keep on good ? >> north korea a pretty self-centered isolated place, china needs north korea for its own stability. they know that china cares in fact about north korean stability and they're betting that that desire to see north korea as a buffer, as a security buffer for china, will be sufficient to keep china in line and not be willing to do anything that would pull the plug on north korea. >> china's sowrchina's support for north korea militarily, financially, has helped keep the kim family in power despite overwhelming international criticism. but it doesn't need -- you were just describing what north korea might think china needs from it, but for economic reasons, china's trade with south korea is 296 billion as compared to $6 trillion. >> for china to come to the recognition that north korea engaging these kinds of provocative nucle

korea if not dominance of north korea. so, let us again, to the point that we applied the president of japan and policies that are going to ultimately bring more stability to that part of the world, let us condemn beijing for not using it influence in a way that would bring more influence and peace to that region. we need to work together on this , mr. chairman thank you for calling this hearing. i look forward to hearing more specifics and information for the witnesses that will help us develop our policy, now as we start into this new era. thank you. >> thank you. the gentleman from california. >> thank you mr. chairman and thank you for that time for this hearing. a few weeks ago i had a chance to visit the republic of korea. visit with our troops and spend a few days run christmas with our troops, also visiting with the korean secretary. i also had a chance to go to the demilitarized zone and chat with our troops, see the republic of korea troops. the demilitarized zone is an oxymoron. this is the most heavily militari

nuclear weapon possessing powerful socialist north korea the great workers party of north korea. but worldwide expressed doubts about the her mit kingdom's grandiose claims. >> the characteristics of the seismic signals detected from this event are very similar to the characteristics of the seismic signals detected from the previous declared nuclear test. >> this is north korea's fourth test from its withdrawal from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty 13 years ago. north korea reactivated its nuclear facilities and just months after that announced it had the nuclear weapons. called the united states our enemy and destroyer of world peace and vowed to turn the area into a sea of fire and hell. sad statement on what north korean leaders think of their own people. >> it is their failure to comply with their obligations and their failure to do what they were supposed to do under onl not ony international obligations but the agreement with the united states. and we hope north korea will realize the folly of its actions. >> by 2006 security council approved a resolution, since then nor

to north korea. the bill will also give us the tools to reapply some of the most effective sanctions that we've ever had against hard currency for those who do business with north korea. we saw how these sanctions were effective before. following u.s. action against the banco delta asia in macau in 2005, the banks and leaders were frozen and completely blocked from the international financial system. this directly affected the money being used to develop these nuclear and ballistic missile capabilities and it also supported the regime's leadership and its elites and their lifestyle. this severely increased the pressure on north korea, causing them to engage in the international community, coming to an agreement to lift the sanctions in 2007 prema turrill, in my view -- prematurely, in my view, discussing a list of its nuclear-related activities with the u.s. and other parties in the region. the agreement was violated by north korea in 2009 when they ested a missile, and the sanctions on banco delta s

so that it is voices like that coming out of south korea that is lending skepticism to north korea's claims which are very triumphant that it has in fact tested its first hydrogen bomb. wolf. >> in china, the main ally of north korea has condemned the test as we call it. could this further jeopardize the north korean and chinese relationsh relationship? >>> it is very important to the watch right now. china not only condemned the nuclear test, but also announced that it did not get any advanced warning from pyongyang which it has had in some of the previous nuclear tests that north korea has carried out. that is perhaps something that the obama administration is pinning its hopes on right now that a u.s. official has told cnn that washington now wants to impose some new u.n. security council resolutions, quote, unquote with teeth that would have some new sanctions against north korea, and also hoping that this new tough rhetoric that is coming from beijing against the north korean neighbor, it could prompt china in the future to impose some unilateral sanctions against north korea, b

and north korea. south korea is going to cut off aid, japan is going to cut off any type of aid and any type of reaching out to north koreans that are living in japan and, of course, the united states is likely to increase sanctions that are already in existence. so that means the north koreans made the conscious decision to make thistist, which tells me they're probably thinking of proliferating this to iran for not millions but billions of dollars and also probably testing this weapon that we saw today so that it can be placed in a war head on a missile that has icbm capability and, of course, that means the capability to hit the united states. >> do we know dr. bechtol if iran was present during the testing? >> that's a very good question. that's something we don't know yet, there's been no information on it. as you probably know, in 2013 the iranians were present, the highest ranking nuclear specialist who overseas their entire enriched uranium program was present at the test, we have seen nothing

armed north korea. so they're trying to thread the needle. i think there's a role for the united states to play here with some of our other close allies, with help create a japan, to get talks going. the resin we have -- the lesson we have learned in the past few years, as you've learned from the clinton years, when you talk to north korea, you can does constrain the program. we stopped the bomb program for eight years with the clinton plan. it is when you don't talk to them that they start building and testing and start firing missiles. you can't make the mistake that michael douglas made in fatal attraction with glenn close, thinking you can walk away from this problem. like glenn close, north korea will not be ignored. you sharetine ahn, do this assessment? >> i do. you one other thing that i think is important to put into geopolitical context is the u.s. pacific, to asia. although china may consider north korea to be a thorn in his side, they also does there also very concerned about the pivot to as

korea, if not dominance of north korea. so let us again, to the point that we applaud president abe for reaching out and policies that are going to openly bring more stability to that part of the world, let us condemn beijing for not using its influence in a way that would bring more stability and peace to that region. so we need to work together on this, and try to think of a coexisting. looking forward to hearing for specifics and information from the witnesses that will help us develop our policy now as we start into this new era. thank you. >> thank the gentleman from california. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you for the timeliness of this hearing. a few weeks ago i the chance to visit the republic of korea, visit with our troops and spend a few days around christmas with our troops, also visiting with the korean foreign secretary's come national security folks, et cetera. also a chance to go up to the demilitarized zone and chat with our troops, see the republic of korea troops. the demilitarized zone is an oxymoro

the opacity of north korea is legendary. and even its claim that they have exploded a hydrogen bomb has to be met with at least some questions and skepticism. it was not thought that they had the capability to test a hydrogen bomb, although they might have been working up to the possibility of a test of something called a boosted fission bomb, which is not quite as powerful and not quite as advanced. it could take weeks or even months to verify whether this really was a hydrogen bomb. >> but misomething was dedetona right? this at least we feel comfortable enough to say occurred. >> something definitely created a seismic event. yes, the chances are very high that it was a nuclear test, which would have been the fourth in nine years by north korea. the problem here is that the world doesn't know what to do about it even if it was an atomic bomb, an atomic test or a hydrogen bomb test. there is very little that the outside world can do to influence north korea, even here in china, which is north korea's closest ally, but with

north korea's surprise nuclear test. an assistant professor is joining us now over the phone to discuss this test implications. thanks for your time. what do you make of this claim from north korea? do you think it's true? >> well, there seems to be little debate they conducted a nuclear test. experts are trying to fathom if it was a hydrogen bomb, as they claim, or not. but it was not an earthquake, and it was a significant blow. so there was a nuclear device test. >> and for now everyone is trying to spin out if it is true, what next. kim jong-un apparently wants a higher status for his country on the international stage with this, but doesn't the north lose leverage with a blatant violation? won't it result in more angs sanctions? >> we have to ask why now? from the outside, we know so little about the inner workings of the regime and how things work in north korea that we immediately focus on neighboring countries and the role of the united states. we should probably start domestically. from what we can tell, we're s

a caravan of buses is making its way from south korea to north korea. a reunion is taking place in a mountain tourist resort, bringing together separated families from north and south. a husband and wife were reunited for the first time in 65 years. 70 years have passed since the korean peninsula split into north and south. this 98-year-old man has come to see his son, now 70, who lives in north korea. millions of people separated for decades. we follow one man as he reunites with the family he left behind. these are the headquarters of the korean red cross. in cooperation with its counterparts in north korea, the korean red cross has taken a leading role in humanitarian exchange. one of their projects is bringing together family members separated by the division of the korean peninsula. october 5th. a binder of documents arrives from north korea. it contains information about separated family members compiled by the red cross of north korea at the request of south korean families. inquiries were made to north korea regarding 250 families. many of the f

can impose on north korea. after he left office, the former secretary of state kurt campbell stated it would be possible to put more pressure on north korea, we can make it more currency through sanctions and he said he was surprised to find out that there were about 10 times as many sanctions on burma than on north korea. present obama and john kerry have made similar statements indicating that there are other measures we could impose, but have not. a fourth is that sanctions do not work. tougher measures were effective when applied. in 2002, the u.s. designated a bank as a money laundering concern for facilitating north korean and facilitated activities. as a result, washington related lawsbelated and enforcing and two dozen financial institutions voluntarily cut back business with north korea. a north korean negotiator admitted, you finally found a way to hurt us. instead with the u.s. should be doing is implementing the iran model against north korea. strong measures that induced iran, these measures are ne

on the border of north korea. we have been told by officials here that an opening in any kind of cross-border war with south korea could kill tens of thousands of south koreans. that's how many weapons the north koreans have perched on the border there. so that's pretty much out of the question, thomas. >> jim miklaszewski at the pentagon as you get information, keep us updated. thank you, sir. >>> and now we are joined by a general there in little rock, arkansas. we want to show our viewers some of the video from inside that country. this is rarely seen footage, but as you look at this, what do you think about the fact that this could be a hydrogen bomb and that intelligence officials would not have any type of heads-up that they had this type of technology? >> well, there's a lot of things that happen behind the scenes that even with the best intelligence you're never going to know. we've been pinching back and forth with north korea on the nuclear issues for over 20 years. we tried to cap this program back in 1

that ended up with north korea having a nuke. >> again, north korea's been a problem on a bipartisan basis for multiple administrations. what actually worked with north korea were the specific sanctions of top officials. we should probably reengage in those in a more robust fashion. but i'm talking about the threats around the world, whether it's russia's aggression or china's aggression or iran's aggression. all these things are brought about by appeasement, lack of strength, lack of resolve. let's face it, there's -- there are not countries that respect us that fear us anymore. our enemies don't fear us and our allies don't believe we can be relied on. that puts the world in a very dangerous place. it makes america less safe and secure. >> senator ron johnson coming to us from wisconsin. thank you so much, sir. >> have a good day. >>> he's been called unstable. he's been called a lunatic. a megalo maniac, so why did kim jong-un launch this possible nuclear test now? and what could his next move be? we'll talk about that after this quick break. when i lay in my tempur pedic contour-

korea, if not dominance of north korea. so, let us again to the point where we applaud the president of japan for reaching out in policies that will bring more stability to that part of the world, let us condemn beijing for not using its influence in a way that will bring stability and peace to the region. so we need to work together on this and mr. chairman, thank you. looking forward to hearing specific and information from witnesses that will help us develop policy now as we go into this new era. mr. chairman: thank you. thank you.ive bera: a few weeks ago i had a chance to visit the republic of korea and visit with troops and to spend some days with the troops and also visiting with the koran -- korean foreign secretary. i also had a chance to go to the demilitarized zone and see the republic of korea troops. in demilitarized zone is oxymoron, this is one of the most heavily militarized zones in the world and it is a constant reminder that we are in a cease-fire, not a state of peace. listening to

now north korea has to. now all of the candidates have to confront the question of what are they going to do about north korea. that's kind of exactly what they want. >> okay. bobby ghosh, thank you for all of the information. we'll be asking rand paul about that very thing. michaela? >> most of us know dr. ben carson from the debates and interviews on television. his wife is giving us a peek at the man she knows away from the glare of the political spotlight. candy carson is here, she joins us live to tell us about her new book about her husband. good morning. e it up. that's today? we'll be with her all day to see how it goes. after the deliveries, i was ok. now the ciabatta is done and the pain is starting again. more pills? seriously? seriously. all these stops to take more pills can be a pain. can i get my aleve back? for my pain, i want my aleve. get all day minor arthritis pain relief with an easy open cap. ♪ ♪virgin islands nice ♪ ♪so nice ♪so nice, so nice ♪ spend a few days in the u.s.

china is north korea' north kory biggest ally if you will. and what this latest incident appears to be is a further erosion of the relationship between the two nations. china just after 24 hours ago after this was announce they'd this is what north korea said was an h bomb test firing china said they didn't know about it and that's a difference from the previous test. the previous three tests that north korea has carried out because they gave china their ally a heads up this was coming so they could expect it so they weren't taken off guard.

they hurt north korea. but they haven't produced a change in the behavior of the north korean regime. there is little to think a new set of sanctions will do the same thing now. it's tough. you won't go to war with korea. they have shied away from diplomatic negotiations. so in that vacuum the north koreans continue to develop fear nuclear capabilities is there why now? some sucked the 33rd birthday of kim jong-un, maybe making some sort of statement to the chinese, you know, there have been a top level diplomat who comes from china earlier this year, but now, gosh, maybe this relationship is back in the freezer again. why now? >> well, it's very hard to read what's in the mind of the north koreans. i think the key thing is having a nuclear capability has a cornerstone of kim jong-un's regime. it's really central to his identity. the boosts his prestige. it boosts his hold on hower inside north korea. it gives north korea a lot of additional leverage, whether it was a hydrogen bomb or something else. the no

not just one but any number of them. >> what chose north korea t --what caused north korea to choose this time for the test. there is speculation it was timed ahead of his birthday. it's believed he'll turn 33 on friday. in new york a meeting of the u.n. security council was hastily convened. ambassadors condemned north korea and said new action was needed. >> the members of the security council will begin to work immediately on security council resolution. >> japan, which rejoined the security council just a few days ago is one of the regional country's most fearful of north korea said those measures must be tough otherwise the credibility of the united nations will be at stake. what else can the u.n. security council do? there is already a strict regime in place. what is there in north korea to sanction? beyond that everyone on the u.n. security council knows they need to tread carefully. they don't want to further provoke a leader who makes unpredictable, and some would say rash decisions who may own nuclear weapons. >> we're live now from the south korean capital of seoul, and i

china doesn't want to push north korea. they don't want to make south korea the major power there along their border. we can't police the world. we can do a lot of work. we can't take care of everything -- >> you don't think they see it? >> calling on the u.s. >> they see a week later in america? >>. >> i don't agree. it's not partly because of that. it's wholly because of that. juan? >> no, no. >> it would react in a way that would be militaristic and start world war 3. that's what it would be. we would be so insecure. you've got to realize the united states remains a brilliant and all powerful military force. >> who becomes -- >> we haven't, juan. when we don't set our minds and now north korea has a nuclear bomb. iran is on the way to a nuclear bomb. if we are leaders why not stand up for our own self-interest. >> the rest of the world, guys. >> the germans are behind us. we're leading them. >> the world is watch north korea and iran push our buttons, so to speak, with no response. who's next? >> it's not no response. it

north korea? >> that is true, north korea has been out of the news, it has been overshadowed by what is going on in the middle east. so, i think, the administration has practiced what they call "strategic patience" that is to say not too much activity with north korea, to keep them at a distance. but i think what is happening, that policy now has been challenged by the north koreans. they can be very provocative, they have launched nuclear tests back in 2006, and also again in 2013. they have been small test, some have said they have been failures. but they have been steadily testing missiles and a combination of missiles and eight nuclear capacity is a worrisome trend. >> let me stop you there. we are talking about a a hydrogen device, not the anatomic a bond, is at worst? >> it is, but most everyone concluded the north koreans lacked the capacity for the hydrogen bomb. they may get away with kind of a different kind of a test for a regular nuclear blast but the bragging it 19 posting about a hyd

there was a period of engagement with north korea what was brief. what must be done. >> north korea to fully implement all regulation of security council and iaee. these resolutions expressed serious concerns and called on north korea to refrain from further such tests. iaea is ready to contribute to a peaceful resolution. we have the experience of conducting safeguards in north korea, and our inspectors are ready to go at short notice when requested. >> describe for us the plutonium process which we thought had been paid to and the uranium process that seems to be gathering a pace. >> the iaea does not have the inspectors on the ground now since april, 2009, but we're monitoring the situation through satellite imagery, and as i stated in september, we've observed the activities like the construction of light water reactors or operation of the five megawatt reactors, or expanding the enrichment facilities. in 2013, north koreans, stated that they will readjust and restart the nuclear activities. all of these combined make me have concerns, and that

friend of north korea. north korea is saying to the world, we're still around. maybe all the troubles in the middle east but you've got to deal with u. this is their fourth nuclear test since 2006. they obviously have nuclear weapons. they may have as many as ten. they are saying we will not have our nuclear weapons curved like you did like iran. were here to stay so i think it's important that we have a strong response but at the same time look at ways that we can find out where this new leader of north korea is coming from. whether he wants engagement or whether he just wants to continue this hostility swards the outside world. >> if confirmed, does this news tell us that north korea's nuclear program is far more advanced than we thought even yesterday? >> well, yell. if it's a -- well, yes. if it's a hydrogen bomb. the u.s. and russia are the only active testers that have taken place. in would be very, very serious. i seriously doubt whether this happened. because technologically, north korea still has w

they urged north korea to return to the six-party talks. china, of course, is about the only friend that north korea has right now. they have in the past been allies, but there have been deep strains in that relationship during the past few years, mainly because of north korea's nuclear program. china in the past has supported sanctions against north korea and, of course, it could be in that position once again if that is what the united nations decides to do >>> there are some fears, of course, that north korea without the restraining influence, if you like, of its closest ally china could become even more recalcitrant, but is there any doubt that the north koreans have done what they've actually claimed to have done? >> reporter: well, i think probably the south korean government and certainly the u.s. governments are deeply sceptical. they say it could take, you know, months, even years, to prove whether north korea really has tested a militarized h bomb. so it's going to be very hard to verify. two years ago north korea said it tested a

now north korea is isolated. it's really isolated itself from the international community, including china. now, as we look forward, what we can look to is how does this play out in terms of military alliances. what china does not want is for the united states and its allies to continue to build up its own military presence in the asia pacific region but given the circumstances in north korea today, that is probably most likely going to be the case. ben: what about the united states? you're sitting there in washington. what sort of pressure can it bear? shihoko: the united states, president obama and john kerry in particular, has already come out with a statement strongly condemning the activities of north korea, is actually in the united nations as i speak trying to come up with a united front on this, as well. we will see coordination, as stated at the beginning, there had been coordinated efforts in the form of the six-party talk but that has been in the wayside the last few years. will we see a new form of si

particularly among north korea's neighbours. now we have this claim, and it is a claim, that the north has successfully detonated a hydrogen bomb. certainly the question that many will be asking is this - is this the first step towards developing a nuclear warhead that could be mounted on to a long range missile that could reach, you know, the united states or some other countries close to north korea. that will be the question that is fixating certainly the president of the united states. >> many questions, i am sure, about what north korean intentions are. thank you. >> the armed occupiers of the government building in oregon say they have drawn a line in the snow. why one of the spokesmen says he is waiting for the feds to come and arrest him. >>> armed protesters in oregon say they have no intention to back down until demands are met. allen schauffler is at the wildlife building with new developments. >> the leader of the group tonight said that they are taking a defensive stance, and they certainly are. road range material

ambassador to north korea. he says the world community must find a way to slow down the north's nuclear ambitions. >> i'm not sure saying we're going to respond with strategic patience is going to get us very far. i think what we're going to have to do is there will be a discussion in the u.n. and an effort to tighten sanctions, and i think further efforts with china and other countries, and i hope there will be some understanding that we have to somehow retard this program in the way that we did with the iranian program, and so i think we're going to have to really think very hard about what to do, because we can't just leave this one alone. i think the real issue is we need to find ways to make sure that program doesn't move forward as quickly as its been moving, and there are a number of ways to do that. technical issues. it's very sort of edge of your skis tough measures, but i don't think we can just let this thing continue to grow, because if they really exploded a hydrogen weapon, that is a very serious

blaming the north korea activity on anyone but north korea. what we are talking about are rational ways of dealing with that. what you can expect of the united states of america, if we wanted to use force could we crush this country? yes. is that the right thing to do? no. leah, i want to start with you. you were an intel operator inside south korea. people are wondering, how does this continue to happen. everyone agrees he's a madman. >> this has been going on for a long time. in 2004 when i was working intelligence operations, what was happening. the intelligence community was aware. so it's not that it's having a failure. it's a matter of priorities and where the u.s. and other countries have been place their priorities in the past 10-15 years. >> don't we have the ability to be omnipotent with respect to people with nukes? we are only talking about 5 or 6 people and two or three are bad actors. we will be using censor oz upon board different times of aircraft and platforms to assess what they have done. north korea makes claims that aren't

so what did north korea accomplish with the claim? universal condemnation, talk of tougher sanctions. >> the united nations security council held an emergency meeting today about north korea's hydrogen bomb claim. and james bays has that story. >> reporter: in a typically staged announcement, it was said it be a proud achieve: the announcer seemed almost gleeful as she detailed the country's fourth nuclear test. this time she said a more powerful and advanced hydrogen bomb is being test. experts have cast doubt on that, but either way, it's a clear breach of international law. >> north korea's nuclear test is a serious threat to our international community and it absolutely can not be tolerated >> reporter: north korea at this time carrying out or at least attempting the nuclear test. it's a country where one man has all of authority. and kim jong un signed off on the test. it's to be for his birthday. it's believed that he will turn 32 on friday. in new york, the u.n. security council was hastily convened. the ambassadors condemned n

north korea needs to be persuaded to give up its arsenal. but north korea isn't going to do that unless it's persuaded that it's regime won't survive. regime stability is the ultimate goal for north korea, so there needs to be some inducements that united states, south korea, others in the region won't threaten the kim regime. >> thank you for joining us. >>> now the mayor of the german city of cologne has sparked anger by saying that women should adopt a code of conduct, including staying arm's length away from strangers to avoid attack. earlier about 100 protesters gathered outside of the main train station to demonstrate against violence. an investigation tried to find out if it's part of a criminal network. >> all of a sudden these men around us began groping us. they touched our behinds and grabbed between our legs. they touched us everywhere. my girlfriend wanted to get out of the crowd. when i turned around one man grabbed my bag and ripped it off my body. i thought they could kill us. they would rape us and no one would notice. i tho

what else is there in north korea to sanction? beyond that, everyone on the u.n. security council knows they need no tread carefully. they don't want to further provoke a leader who makes unpredictable, some would say rash, decisions and who has nuclear weapons, however primitive >>> south korea says the nuclear test is a grave violation of an agreement reached last august and says it will resume propaganda broadcasts. >> reporter: recommitting their resolve here in south korea it is neighbor to the east japan and the united states, all allies in dealing with north korea, automatic very concerned about that bomb that was tested on wednesday morning. they say that they are working more closely than ever before when it comes to surveillance, but also making sure there's no more provocative action. something interesting coming out of the defense ministry here today, on thursday, saying that they believe in is a failed h-bomb test but they're very concerned that there could be more action coming from north korea and they're stepping up their surveillance. there have b

can impose on north korea. after he left office, the former assistant secretary of state kurt campbell commented it would be possible for us to put more financial pressure on north korea. we can make life much more difficult through financial sanctions on north korea and he also pointed out he was surprised when he was in government to find out that there were about ten times as many sanctions on burma as north korea. president obama can the secretary of state and other officials made similar statements indicating there are other measures that u.s. could impose that hasn't. forth is that the sanctions don't work. as already pointed out, tough measures were effective when applied. in 2002 that u.s. designated the bank in asia as a money-laundering concern for facilitating the north korean illicit activities. as a result of a belatedly enforce its laws as well as the meetings by the officials throughout asia. two dozen financial institutions voluntarily cut back or terminated the business with north korea and the

and with north korea's nuclear test. gene otani on our business desk has been following the developments. gene. >> thanks, james. shanghai stocks dropped sharply at the open on thursday. and for the second time this week, the fall was so steep that it forced trading to stop completely. that led to severe losses in markets across the asia-pacific region. the shanghai composite finished the day only 30 minutes after the open. it tumbled 7% during that time. closing at 3125. the selloffs were triggered by concerns over the yuan, dropping to a nearly five-year low against the u.s. dollar. analysts say many market players are worried the weaker currency will cause capital to flow out of china. the hang seng index also had a rough day. it dipped more than 3% to close at its lowest level since july 2013. many investors sold shares listed on the mainland. and seoul's kospi fell to a four-month low. >>> stocks here in tokyo also took a heavy hit. for details on how investors reacted to the developments in china, we go to our biz

north korea's nuke test is a serious threat to security. the chinese government is alarmed at the prospect of having a nuclear armed neighbor. >> an official spokeswoman admitted that its old ally had not notified china before the test and issued a strong rebuke. >> the chinese government has always tried to keep stability and peace in northeast asia. we strongly urge north korea to stick to commitment to denuclearization and stop taking action to make the situation worse. >> the test happened close to a chinese city. whatever was tested, it was felt here. fearing an earthquake, many local residents were evacuated. al jazeera visited this tense border area three months ago where a series of recent murders and robberies have been blamed on hungry north korean soldiers. china's leadership supported sanctions against north korea in the past. now it could be under pressure to do so again. adrien brown, al jazeera, beijing. >>> earlier we spoke to retired army major mike lyons. >> we probably won't hear it from the north, they'll continues to th

they have basically frozen out north korea and north korea is returning the favor. clearly now kim jong un is not trying to keep china onboard either. >> so given that, is it possible then in the bigger picture as we move further down the road. the japanese and the south koreans are moving closer to the united states and also possibly pushing the chinese even further away. >> essentially, again, we don't have a whole lot to do to punish north korea. >> why would it be the north koreans know that. so why kwould they say or appear to say yet again that they have done something with they may not have done. >> yeah. i think this test is mostly for domestic politics in north korea. kim jong un is facing a workers policy meeting that hasn't met in 1980. >> no one in north korea is going to notice, right? >> and they're not too interested in figuring out whether it happened or not. and one reason countries like to test is they learn stuff by it. the big takeaway is north korea continues to improve its nuclear weapons capability. >> thanks for coming in. good to speak with

so i think we ought to be aggressive in hitting north korea with what hurts them. >> north korea did provide nuclear technology to syria. they built a nuclear reactor, the israelis destroyed that back in 2007. they provided nuclear technology to pakistan, which now has a nuclear arsenal. is there evidence right now north korea which is hard pressed for cash is about to sell nuclear related technology to others? >> i don't know that there's evidence that they're on the cusp of doing so, but i certainly wouldn't put it past them. and that's something that we watch vigilant ly. the only linkage i would say, wolf, between north korea and iran is the agreement with iran i think because of the vigorous inspection regime pretty well cuts off iran's pathway to a bomb through the clandestine enrichment capability. if i were iran and wanted to cheat to make a bomb, i would buy it elsewhere. and here we're going to have to really watch north korea and make sure that iran doesn't seek to cheat by going to a country like north korea to get the finished product. >> congressman schiff, thanks very

in 2013, north korea used geranium. again that has been independently verified and it may be time before we can verify whether or not hydrogen was used this time. certainly the south korean government and the united states government have been expressing their skepticism, and around the region today we have seen concerns expresseded the last time north korea did what it did. the south korean president said that they are assessing what their response should be to what happened. japan's prime minister shinzo abe said that what north korea had done threatened not just japan, but the asia pacific region. >> all right. thank you very much indeed. let's have a look more at the rest of the international reaction to the text. the u.s. called by north korea to abide by international obligations. they say it will respond appropriately to all provocation. the u.n. security council is set to hold a meeting to talk about the test. if the test is concern muched. it would be a provocation and a breach. u.n. security council resolution

maybe it is time for the world to engage with north korea. it is hard to see how any western leader can engage with a regime that just set off a nuclear device. un security the council met in emergency session to condemn north korea and consider what to do next. >> this act is profoundly destabilizing for regional security, and seriously undermines international nonproliferation efforts. i condemn it unequivocably. rupert: so far, north korea has defied every one -- including exploding 4 nuclear devices. its ambition is to go further. to put a nuclear weapon on a missile that could reach of america. rupert wingfield-hayes, bbc news , soeul. laura: i spoke with bill richardson, the former u.s. ambassador to the united nations. koreaor richardson, north claims to have tested a hydrogen bomb, do you believe it? richardson: no, this is only 6. they are on a path to continue upgrading their nuclear weapons capability. they have 10 nuclear weapons and are testing ballistic missiles. the international community is, despite the sanctions, despite the

and they're toying with us with north korea. so north korea is totally under the control, without china, they wouldn't eat. they wouldn't have food. they wouldn't have anything. so china should do it. >> all right. those words from donald trump. now a live look at marco rubio who's stumping in iowa. a few hours ago, he lashed out at the president and the former secretary of state, hillary clinton, in a series of tweets saying, quote, if this test is confirmed, it will just be the latest example of the failed obama/clinton foreign policy. our senior political reporter manu raju is tracking the story from marshalltown, iowa. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. rubio just talked about this right now. he discussed how kim jong-un is a lunatic and how north korea needs to be addressed aggressively. he thinks that this is an issue that differentiates him from his other republican rivals in this race. national security has been a centerpiece of his campaign. but he's not the only candidate who is trying to get a leg up. others are

more now on north korea's nuclear test. many experts are debating why pyongyang chose to carry out the test now. brian todd has some possible answers. >> with an explosion the size of a moderate earthquake and the unattainable glee of a news anchor, kim jong un makes his rivals shutter and sends intelligence agencies scrambling. a senior u.s. official tells cnn north korea's nuclear test, whether it's a hydrogen bomb or not is very concerning. analysts give a stark assessment of change danger. north korea is moving towards a warhead that's miniaturized that can hit japan, guam, the american territory or perhaps hawaii or the west coast. that's where they're moving. and it they're doing it with impunity. >> from seoul to washington, officials are assessing kim's motives. one possibility, he's signaling his enemies who he sees everywhere. >> kim jong un is facing threats from all fronts. domestically, internally, from his elites. and so he has to be able to manage and control all of that internally. but, of course, there's al

not north korea. we have a problem on how to handle thermonuclear war, but this is all about job growth. >> if they know that oil is why we're at one point -- if they know why inflation is low, where did that 2% end all be all number come from that they have to -- i thought it was price stability. if inflation is stuck at 1%, why do they need to get it to 2? >> i was surprised that stanley felt oil was temporary. if anything, what we're seeing is lower longer. the question is can it temporarily hold in the 30s or does it go to the 20s. >> wage price spiral could occur -- not that it's imminent, but if the new level of oil is 30, that still doesn't help normal concerns at 4.9% or whatever we are at unemployment. you're looking at the wrong number for whether there is wage price pressure or not. >> i agree. look. the saving grace of the interview was we're still data dependent. but when you see the adp number, you are astonished. wow, service economy is very strong. >> except for the industrials. >> ind

they are celebrating in north korea right now. celebrating something that literally shook the world a few hours ago, and if it is true, and that is a very big if, it means that north korea has managed to put together and to test a hydrogen bomb. [ speaking foreign language ] >> so, this was the official announcement today on north korean television, and in that breathless pyongyang fashion no

no one wants to go to war with north korea. but sanctions don't work and negotiations have not been successful and the u.s. is very uneasy getting back into them. so no options are good here. there's no good choices. >> this is not the first time north korea has conducted nuclear tests. our next guest spoke with nuclear scientists who insisted they work. >> august 1998, speem leader kim jong un is just 15 years old when his father, the leader kim jong il fires a multistage rocket over japan, demonstrating north korea's frightening potential to develop rockets that reach around the region. >> north korea claims nukes is its only lifeline to defend itself against the u.s. which it says is hell bent on toppling pyongyang. december 2012, in spite of u.n. resolutions condemning rocket launches, north korea fires what it calls a peaceful satellite into space. increased sanctions stoke the north's anger further. state media announcing a third nuclear test in february 2013. with each test, north korea gains valuable new knowledge. in m

are trying to drive a wedge between north korea and china because china is north korea's most important and most powerful friend. they provide economic assistance to this country and trade with china has essentially been partially fueling in a great part, fueling this country's economic growth and you do see some small signs of economic growth. there are more cars on the streets here. people have electronics, people have smart phones and other goods, many of which are imported from china. the north koreans of course want to maintain that relationship but then again, the chinese government infuriated about this test. i was in beijing yesterday when officials said they received no advanced warning about this. another potentially volatile situation and we'll have to see how the regime here reacts would be if the south koreans turn on the loud speakers over the summer when that happened when there was propaganda m co-ing across the border and fired back and launched artillery and called it an act of war and assembled troops and given many people feel this regime is truly unpredictable, nobo