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the hell knows, but i'm shocked that a socialist is beating hillary clinton so easily. i mean, we will see what happens. but i'm very surprised by it. i think in the end he won't make it but we will see what happens. >> do you believe that >> do you believe that ñz!nie sanders thinks that because i gave you a hard time about immigration. you are never going to be debe able to deport 12 million people and that's impossible. >> yes i will. >> time will tell. do you think that bernie sanders believes what he says that he is going to run up another. >> no. >> 19 trillion-dollar debt and nothing is going to happen? >> no. >> why? >> look, he was a very ineffective senator for years. i mean, he hasn't done anything as a senator. all of a sudden he is going to totally change the country around? i don't think so. no, i don't think he believes he can get this through congress. i don't think he even thinks he has a chance. but i think it sounds great for an election for his purposes. >> do you think it's a vanity run? >> no. i think that he does not believe he can get it through congress.
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