audience, everyone -- >> jimmy: there's like this i.t. guys who's going, "what the heck is this? this is unbelievable." yeah. i got up to cobol and mastered cobol. and then i was on my way to c plus plus, and it got too hard there. >> yeah. >> jimmy: i really did, yeah. [ light laughter ] but it's tricky. it's a lot of math. >> it's a lot of math. >> jimmy: too much for me. but this is good for kids to know they can get out there and know what's going on and to be coding and programming. it's good stuff. >> the president has a whole new initiative called computer he wants it to be part of education for every student in america. >> jimmy: i love this. >> this is fabulous. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: you can be a talk show host if you do it. that's what happens. it is fun to go in the white house. was this your first time at the white house?
yesterday, even our i.t. staff. but, it' s been terrible, i think especially for the muslims that are most visible, which sadly are men with beards and women who cover. fernando: let me ask, you mentioned president obama. he spoke at a mosque. what did that mean to you?. anushay: his rhetoric has always been great. people might, you know -- he' s even been accused of being a muslim. [laughter] so it was funny to note that, wow, he actually has never spoken from a u.s. mosque, not to say he hasn' t visited mosques when he' s been overseas. but i think it' obama. he' s kind of had to maneuver allegations of being a muslim while standing up for muslims. fernando: that' s kind of a funny phrase in itself. no one says allegations, like no one says allegations of being a catholic or anything like that. so, when you look forward, how will this rhetoric impact america? how do you think this rhetoric gets dialed back? anushay: so i think the conversation, the fact that you and i are talking about it. the fact that mainstream media is asking, how do muslims feel? is this true? yes, there is some unc
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