>> from our studio in new york, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin with our continuing coverage of election 2016. donald trump met with the rnc and reince prebus today. it follows the comments that women should be punished for getting an abortion and his retraction. forcampaigsn are gearing up .ext wednesday's a poll released this week showed ted cruz leading by 10%. bernie sanders has a narrow lead of 4% over hillary clinton. joining me now, chris matthews, host of hardball, and matt dowd. here in new york, matt flegenheimer and kellyanne conway. cruzeads a pro-ted superpac. i begin with chris matthews pretty take me back to how you solve this. he moment you asked these questions. do you think you thought about this at all before? chris: it was a question from the audience. a young woman asked about abortion rights. i asked him the question on my mind. what do we do in terms of enforcement. woman beim, should the abortion?ho has an he took a while to answer and he said yes there ought to be some punishment for the woman. what about the guy involved? he said no, not him

♪ announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." al: loretta lynch is the 83rd attorney general of the united states, a native of north carolina, graduate of harvard college and harvard law school, she was a federal prosecutor that rose to be head of the eastern district. she was sworn in a year ago, this week. happy anniversary, welcome to the program. let us start with the issue of crime. this is a national reentry week, where you are trying to help people who get out of prison to have a more productive life. let me just start though, why do we have the highest incarceration rate in the world? ms. lynch: we certainly do have one of the highest rates in the world. it stems from a number of sources. i think we look back at the efforts that were made never -- that were truly seeking to reduce violence, to deal with the burgeoning drug problem, particularly in the 1980's and 1990's, and the violence that accompanied them. and what people thought was -- the need to appear very, very tough on crime, without thinking through the results of a lot of those actions

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose". charlie: we are joined by senator bernie sanders a welcome. let me talk about the issue of qualifications to be president. you said that hillary clinton does not qualify. bernie sanders: what i said was in response to it she was saying. the washington post headline mcclendon questions whether bernie sanders is qualified to be a candidate. i fell it was audible -- responsible to react. charlie: should it be tit-for-tat? bernie sanders: no. i have tried to have an issue driven campaign. i think that people want to hear that. what i do want to say is that we are getting attacked every single day by the clinton campaign. i want them to know that we are going to respond. not in kind, but i do hope that -- charlie: do you believe that secretary clinton is unqualified to be president? bernie sanders: does she believe i am qualified? charlie: why can you not say? she has a life in public service and she is one of the most qualified people. : bernie sanders she is extremely intelligent. charlie: what should she say? bernie san

charlie: every presidential candidate was in new york this week and the democrats faced off for a fiery final debate in the brooklyn navy yard. all of this comes days before the crucial tuesday primaries. for more, we turn to major garrett, he has been covering the republican primaries. i am pleased to have him here and we will talk about where we are. new york is crucial? >> new york is important. it will be a place for donald trump to reset. he will win new york handily, and most of the congressional districts. 27 in new york. if he gets a majority in each of those, he will run the table and get 95 delegates and regain the momentum lost. cruz might pick up a few delegates but he will reframe it as a reset and say he is back on track to winning the nomination outright. charlie: can he get to 1237 before the convention opens? mr. garrett: he can get it if he wins california heavily. the month of may the crucial for donald trump. i am a little curious why they spent so much time in new york. new york is solidly in his column. in may, indiana, nebraska, other places that do not lay

>> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie rose: how did you come to this? >> well, it is weird and i feel like i found a family in my head and i got interested in doing a show without the audience and the laugh track and the need for constant jokes that sitcoms have. what you are left with is a live feeling. it feels like it is a drama or something. i got the idea of a show like that. charlie rose: it is a drama? what is the story? >> it is about a are runs by horace and pete in brooklyn that was opened i two brothers named horace and pete. they had sons named horace and pete. this has always been owned by a horace and a pete. sometimes, it has been brothers. others, cousins. alan alda plays uncle pete from the previous generation. >> it is a new form. >> very different. a grabbed me when i started writing it. i have had a lot of ideas for it different kinds of shows. you get out the script and i started writing this is summer and it just kept coming, episode after episode. i realized i was writing some -- writing something that was worth shooting. >> what

our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie: the second liberian civil war which claimed hundreds of thousands of lives. it clips focuses on the lives of five liberian women living through that -- eclipse focuses on the lives of five liberian women living through that struggle. made broadway history earlier this year, becoming the first production to feature an , andemale cast, director playwright. joining me now are the stars, lupita nyong'o, the writer, deny - danaia d - gurrira, and the director. what is the connection to the play that was put on in 2009? i: it is the same play. and out of some amazing synchronicity, lou peter -- yell atas walking in to the time. at the yell school of drama, you yet -- yale school of drama, you get assigned to understudy, and that is the first show i was assigned. we had worked on it before we got to jail and done rigorous work with the script. le and done rigorous work with the script. charlie: what were you creating in your own mind? what is the story? thehe big picture story was story about how human beings survive under unt

♪ announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. weekie: in politics this with the candidates are looking ahead to tuesday's very important wisconsin primary. toocrat early sanders host extend his winning streak from caucuses to a fourth state, and republican ted cruz holds a win there will slow donald trump's momentum. tz, fromned by dan balr the washington post and advent -- an an observer. dan, there was this business wife, thecruz's, campaign manager, and interview with chris matthews. is this taking a toll in terms of trump and his momentum? dan: i think so absolutely, charlie. these have been two of his worst weeks. he has at other things in the past and has moved to put them behind him, but there is materiallyaturely -- different. if he is the republican nominee to win a general election, and that could be important if we get to an open convention in cleveland. the delegates there are going to be concerned about who is the best candidate to run in the he has coste more himself problems, the more his negatives have gone up with key constituencies in the ge

>> from our studios in new york rose. this is charlie > let me talk about this issue of qualification to be president. >> what i said was in response has been saying. "washington post" headline, "clinton questions whether to be is qualified president." i thought it was appropriate to respond. charlie: is it tit for tat? s that what this campaign should be about? bernie:. no. issue ied to run an oriented campaign. they want to hear about what ideas we have to improve their attacking each other every day but what i do have to say. f we're getting attacked believe do you do clinton is unconfidence? why can't you just say yes. resume in irst rate terms of a life in public service. >> look -- most e: she's one of the qualified people to run. >> she has years of experience, extremely intelligent. i have some experience, too. in ve a pretty good record congress. as a senator. as a mayor. i think i'm qualified to be president. to answer your question, you're right. we should not get into this tit for tat. be debating the issues facing the american public. saying is people will a

♪ announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: the second liberian civil war which claimed hundreds of thousands of lives. now running at a theatre, focuses on the lives of five liberian women living through that struggle. "eclipse" made broadway history earlier this year, becoming the first production to feature an all-female cast, director, and playwright. joining me now are the stars, lupita nyong'o, the writer, danai gurira, and the director, liesl tommy. what is the connection to the play that was put on in 2009? put on at yale. danai: it is the same play. and out of some amazing synchronicity, lupita was walking in to yale at the time. lupita: i was an understudy at the time at the yale school of drama, you get assigned to understudy, and that is the first show i was assigned. >> we had worked on it before we got to yale and done rigorous work with the script. we were feeling very good about where we landed at yale. charlie: for the current production? >> for the current production, yes. charlie: what were you creating in your own mind

announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: david cohen is here. he has served as deputy director of the cia since february, 2015. he was previously under secretary of the treasury for terrorism and financial intelligence. in that role he was the key , architect of the administration's sanctions against iran and russia. he has also led efforts to disrupt the financing of isis and other terrorist groups. this week, president obama visited saudi arabia, where he urged arab states to increase their commitment to the fight against terrorism. the president heads to germany on monday to talk strategy with leaders such as angela merkel and french president francois hollande. i'm pleased to have david cohan at the first time at the table. it's said you know as much about sanctions as anybody in the obama administration. give me the sense of what you have learned about how to make them work. how effective they are, what you have to have. once you have applied them and taken them off, is it difficult to put them back on? david: sanctions can be enormously e

announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin this evening with our continuing coverage of election 2016. republican presidential candidate ted cruz scored a strong victory in yesterday's wisconsin primary. the outcome dealt a significant blow to front runner's donald trump's passing the nomination. it could also pave the way to a contested republican convention. mr. cruz: three weeks ago, the republicans said wisconsin was a perfect state for donald trump. >> boo! mr. cruz: but the hard-working men and women of wisconsin stood and campaigned tirelessly to make sure that tonight was a victory for every american. [applause] charlie: on the democratic side, bernie sanders beat hillary clinton by 14 points. mr. sanders: do not tell secretary clinton. she is getting a little nervous. and i don't want her to get more nervous. but i believe we've got an excellent chance to win new york and a lot of delegates in that state. charlie: joining me now from washington's jeanne cummings. she is the political editor for "the wall street journal." h

announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." david cohen is here. he has served as deputy director of the cia since february, 2015. he was previously under secretary of the treasury for finance -- he was the key architect of the administration's sanctions against iran and russia. week, president obama visited saudi arabia, where he to -- arab states to increase their commitment to the fight against terrorism. with angelalks merkel and french president francisco on. i'm pleased to have -- french president franciscus -- oisncisco lund -- france hollande. it said you know as much about sanctions as anybody in the obama administration --it's sad that you as much about sanctions as anybody in the obama administration -- it's said that aboutow as much sanctions as anybody in the obama administration. a linkage between what the sanctions are trying to achieve and overall u.s. government policy. we bring to bear all of what the u.s. government is trying to do to effect a policy objective. the second is that we have as much international buying in and cooperation a

announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: welcome to the program. tonight a conversation with president barack obama. the interview follows are set down at the white house last week area this took place in hanover, germany where the president attended and industrial fair with german chancellor angela merkel. this was the final leg of a trip that included stops in saudi arabia and the u.k. in london he had lunch with the queen, had dinner with a future king, and played golf with the prime minister and celebrated in riyadh he met with leaders of the gulf corporation counsel and they talk about isil and iran. in britain he made it case for the -- to stay in the european union. all the matters discussed including some of the things he said in his speech in hanover. here's that conversation. president obama: good to see you. charlie: someone said this is the trip about your -- three of your favorite ladies. president obama: it is a pretty powerful conversation. i have enjoyed spending time with all of them. i would say that this is the most eleg

>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we are joined this evening by presidential candidate bernie sanders. let me talk about this issue of qualification to be president. sen. sanders: it is what i said was in response to what she has been saying. "washington post" headline, "clinton questions whether sanders is qualified to be president." i thought it was appropriate to respond. charlie: is it tit for tat? is that what this campaign should be about? sen. sanders: no. i've tried to run an issue oriented campaign. they want to hear about what ideas we have to improve their lives, not just attacking each other every day but what i do have to say. if we're getting attacked charlie: do you do believe secretary clinton is incompetent? why can't you just say yes. she has a first rate resume in terms of a life in public service. sen. sanders: look -- charlie: she's one of the most qualified people to run. sen. sanders: she has years of experience, she's extremely intelligent. i have some experience, too. i have a pretty good record in congress. as a senato

♪ >> from studios of new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: the gop front-runner faces new challenges in tomorrow's wisconsin primary, where polls show him trailing ted cruz. joining me is robert costa for "the washington post." he recently sat down with trump. his son and others, joining them. we are pleased to have bob join us at the table. how did this come about? robert: woodward said, we would like to sit down with you at length and talk this through, and we had a conversation and we tried to ask him about the presidency in washington, that is his prized property. we wanted to ask him about the presidency, how he would actually be as president, to get away from the day-to-day campaign. charlie: what was the setting? his son was with him. who else? robert: when trump is in the room, he is in command. we're supposed to have lunch, and there were all these images -- sandwiches around with no one touches a sandwich. no one even has a drink from the trunk water bottles. if trump is not eating, no one else is eating. we are sitting at this construction table surrounded by se

>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: thomas campbell is here. he became the metropolitan museum of art's ninth director in 2009. he was a curator of the museum department of new york sculpture and decorative arts specializing in tapestries. he has unified the museum's identity and expanded its modern collection. they entered into an eight-year agreement with the whitney museum to occupy a building on madison avenue. able use the space to host exhibitions and performances. the space, known as the met, open to the public on march 18. i am pleased to have tom campbell at the table for the first time, although we have talked at his museum. welcome. it's good to have you here. in seven years, tell me the things you think are important that you have learned. running this wonderful and great museum. dr. campbell: a big, complex place. charlie: and a place that has changed. dr. campbell: i think of it as evolution. we have the largest college of curators in the world, all working hard on different kinds of research and projects. when i became director, i t

volcker. i'm mark crumpton. this is oomberg television. we now join "charlie rose" in progress. >> the volatility in this electorate andhe the feelings about the country, where the country is headed -- it is a sense of, you get, clearly, a sense of anger and a sense of optimism, the spending -- depending on who you are speaking with. you go to the sanders crowds. there is a vibrant, young sense of optimism that bernie can change this. you go to the truck rallies and the cruz rallies and you get a sense of -- the trump rallies and the cruz rallies and you get a sense of frustration, someone is taking our country from us. donald trump is strong enough to get the country back for us. it has been a ten-month lesson in changing culture in this country. charlie: everybody thought that donald trump would change presidential. i did not see that last night. and the whole idea was that now he needed to show that he was more presidential. and the circumstances of wisconsin are less likely to produce that because it goes back to his core. this is a contest. it's about winning. and i will d

>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin with politics. house speaker paul ryan ruled out a presidential bid at a press conference today. the announcement comes after weeks of speculation he would accept the nomination at a contested convention. addressing the republican national committee, speaker ryan said delegates should choose someone that participated in the primaries. >> count me out. if youy believe that, want to be the nominee for our party, to be the president, you should actually run for it. i chose not to do this. therefore, i should not be considered. word purred. and of story -- period. end of story. al, i go with this one question. why did he say that today? does he mean it? if the republican party came to him and said, you have to do this for the sake of the party and for the sake of the country? guest: he does mean it. he did it today not as news but as a confirmation of what he believes is a reality. if it is getting to the point where it was -- the speculation was becoming injurious because here is this big in washingto

>> from our studios in new york city. this is charlie rose. charlie rose: john kerry is here. he's the 68th secretary of state. after 28 years in the senate he succeeded hillary clinton in 2013. last year he brokered a landmark , nuclear deal with iran. he also played a key role in syrian peace negotiations. according to the new yorker carries admirers and critics alike describe him in similar terms. optimistic and dogged, undaunted by risk. convinced that if he can get the relevant parties into the room he can make a deal. i am pleased to have john kerry on this program. welcome. does that sound true to you? john kerry: no. [laughter] it is obviously more complicated than that. like everything in public life, people try to simplify it. put it in a bottle. define it in very limited terms. it is much more complex. charlie: you were the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. you know foreign policy. what surprises you about the execution of foreign policy? john kerry: we are living in a completely different world from the one that i grew up in. and the one i grew up in t

>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." david: good evening. i'm david axelrod, filling in for charlie rose. the eyes of the political world are on new york tonight. both donald trump and hillary clinton currently hold double-digit leads in contests that could give us new clues as to how this long and unexpected primary season may end. here to shed some light on this is a seasoned panel of observers. glenn thrush of politico and host of the "off message" podcast. alex burns of the new york times, and alex wagner. she is an nbc analyst and correspondent on showtime's "the circus." welcome to all of you. what better place to have a circus than the biggest big top of all, new york. you, glenn, have been around this town for a long time. you cut your teeth as a reporter here. why is it so crazy? glenn: on the democratic side, it is a strangely drama-less primary in terms of the action on the ground. sanders is drawing big crowds, but he doesn't seem to the closing the gap. i think the issue is watching the sanders campaign collide with the tabloid press has

>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: in politic this is week, the candidates are looking ahead to tuesday's very important wisconsin primary. democrat bernie sanders hopes to extend his sweep from caucuses cruzfourth state and a ted win would slow donald trump's momentum. from "the washington post." there was the business about ted cruz's wife. the business about his campaign manager and a woman. there was the business about his interview with chris matthews. is this simply taking a toll in terms of trump and his momentum? >> i think absolutely, charlie. he's had many other problems, as we know, and managed to survive them or move past them or put them behind him but i think there's something materially different now in this. for one it is increasing the obstacles he has if he's the republican nominee to win a general election. and that could be important if we get to an open convention in cleveland. the delegates there are going to be concerned about who is the best candidate to run in the fall and the more he has caused himself problems, the more

, this is charlie rose. charlie: when you first heard there was a new musical may be in the works about alexander hamilton. and the music would be special, >> for me, the most famous person was lin. i didn't know a lot about alexander hamilton. his name on it was compelling enough for me to want to see what i could do to be a part of it. renee: i showed up -- i didn't think there was any way i would get the job. i thought it would make money. charlie: that would be one hell of a investment. you are the rapper. >> to the people that know me. charlie: can you imagine the idea of you, thomas jefferson, a founding father? >> no. never imagined it. tommy brought the idea up to me while we were at the super bowl. he told me what it was about. i said, yes, send it to me. this cannot work. understanding he was a genius. as soon as they sent me the using, they sent be demos where he sings everything himself. all of the beats were made on garageband. even that was enough to say, oh that's perfect. charlie: i keep hearing the word, genius attached to him. what is it about him that everyone says is

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin with politics. house speaker paul ryan ruled out a 2016 presidential bid at a press conference today. the announcement comes after weeks of speculation he would accept the nomination at a contested republican convention. addressing the republican national committee, speaker ryan said delegates should choose someone who participated in the primaries. >> count me out. i simply believe that, if you want to be the nominee for our party, to be the president, you should actually run for it. i chose not to do this. therefore, i should not be considered. period. end of story. charlie: joining me now from washington is al hunt of bloomberg view. here in new york, dan senor, an advisor to mitt romney and paul ryan's campaign. he and paul ryan are good friends. i am pleased to have both of them here. al, i go with this one question. one, why did he say that today? and, b, does he mean it? if in fact, the republican party came to him and said, you have to do this for the sake of the party and for the sake of t

♪ announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: tonight, a conversation with president obama. he traveled to saudi arabia, united kingdom, and germany. our relationships with those allies, the role of russia and iran will be key items on his agenda, we will also talk to him about he sees america's role and lessons he has learned. what he hopes to accomplish in his last year in office. the interview took place monday afternoon in the blue room at the white house. here is that conversation. thank you for letting us be here. it is a great pleasure to see you. you went to -- you are going to saudi arabia. these are friends of the united states, and they have expressed concern about their relationship with america. a lot of it is bold ideas about the nuclear deal. a lot came out in a jeff goldberg article -- you have any reservations about anything you said, would you like to change anything or modify anything in that article? president obama: i think it is important to look at my quotes, besides what is surrounding those quotes for you what i is

>> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie: anderson cooper and gloria vanderbilt are here. that exploresmoir the relationship and the love and loss they have experienced. the collaboration is called frank and tender. there is a documentary on the same subject. here is a trailer from "nothing left unsaid." >> i remember a look behind her eyes that was far away. that thery sad, to me, thing she wanted were so simple. no reality there was for me, the vanderbilt side. my mom has lived many lives and in habit it different skins. she has a public face and the reality of her life is so different. >> it is fascinating. all of our secrets. three weeks later. review -- how old were you? >> 20. >> did your friends think it was weird? >> people were fascinated with the family that had everything. i never felt like i belonged. i felt like i was an imposter. when he died, i went to bed for three weeks and cried. since.not cried there is not a tear left. i am pleased to have anderson cooper and gloria vanderbilt here. welcome. >> i did not want people to know that she

here. ♪ charlie: lesley stahl is here. she has said, i was born on my 30th birthday. everything before then was prenatal. that was the day she was hired by cbs. since then she has won 11 in the awards. now she turns her gaze inwards on the experience of being a grandmother. her new book is "becoming grandma, the joys and science of the new grandparenting." her answers to the practical. this is a fun read about an important subject. as always, i'm glad to have her. lesley: you make me melt. charlie: i'm happy. let's get to the idea. you are experiencing something when grandchildren are born. you are a hard-driving journalist. this morning, i said to you why are you doing this all the time? your appetite for the story has not diminished one bit. lesley: that's true. charlie: that love is there and has not been diminished. all of a sudden, you say i'm a grandma and it is really needs. lesley: how the book came about, you will love. the publisher said i want you to write about "60 minutes." you are at "60 minutes." i said are you crazy? going to talk about my colleagues? it i will tell the

announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." we begin this evening with our continuing coverage of election 2016. hillary clinton own -- won four out of five primaries on tuesday. donald trump triumphed in all five republican primaries. bob woodward, associate editor of "the washington post." in new york, michael barbaro. what was it you saw there? what is the quality of trump's foreign-policy vision? what was important about this speech is what was not there. he did not talk about the wall with mexico that he has usually promised -- previously promised he is going to build. he did not talk about excluding muslims from coming into the united states. diplomacye elevated and said very clearly it is possible we can negotiate with russia and china. and he also very much elevated not telegraphing what we are going to do, of being unpredictable. charlie: that's one of his key strengths, people say, because they don't really know, the unpredictability adds some drama to the election if he is, in fact, the nominee. >> the speech also had some weaknesses. for inst

willis, charlie, ben stein, and adam. dagan as you saw subhosting on bulls and bears. jerry. >> what's wrong with the oil and gas industry? but she says she's not taking money from them. she is taking money from them employees of them. it seems to me that the woman just protests too much. >> the bottom line, right charlie, progressives painted the oil companies as evil, evil, evil for years. >> and i don't think they're evil just for the record. i want to make a point. i think this was a very good moment for hillary clinton. she got in the face of a lefty lunatic who was maligning her record. listen, it's one thing to take money from the companies themselves, i'm not saying there's anything wrong with that it, but that's a deference between taking money from lower level employees of the companies. and i think she's has every right to take money from employee of companies. >> you know, ben, i've got to tell you, made hillary look, she had that emotional ump that people are looking for. i don't think a mail candidate could have gotten away with that, what do you think overall

] ♪÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ ♪ ♪÷÷÷ ♪ ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷ ♪ >> with a few days before the wisconsin primary, we wanted to check in with charlie sykes. he's the host of "midday charlie sykes." thank you for being with us. charlie sykes: it is my pleasure. >> can you compare this to any previous wisconsin primary? bernie sanders: no. just like this campaign is hard to compare to any previous campaign that we have ever seen. wisconsin has been a major player in presidential politics before, but this particular circus is all on its own. >> wiki. represents -- we keep hearing references to the establishment. speaker paul ryan, are they the establishment? charlie sykes: well, i am not sure. i am not sure what the establishment is anymore. if you look at mainstream conservatism and you use that, you kind of realize what is going on here. wisconsin is actually -- it has seen a conservative revolution since 2010. scott walke, paul ryan, and a variety of others. the main dynamic here is you have a very motivated, very locked in conservative electorate that has been through a lot of fights before. zsaw thats the buz donald trump is runn

superdelegates. charlie gasparino,ly claman, and lou dobbs will be joining us in our next segment. at cruz headquarters in milwaukee it wasn't that long ago when think state was supposed to be an easy win for donald trump. it was tailor made for his crowd. then something happened. what's the mood there? reporter: the polls have been showing for a while that this would be potentially a victory for donald trump. then last week we got the two polls from marquette university and fox business poll that showed ted cruz up by 10 point. potentially part of that has to do with the endorsement of scott walker. walker is the sitting governor in wisconsin, former presidential candidate. not on was cruz backed by walker, and he went out on the campaign trail all across the state. but there was the conservative talk radio that backed scott walker in his three elect victories in wisconsin that had been pulling for ted cruz. scott walker i highly liked statewide. that plus the support really from republicans all across the state of that conservative talk radio level and that's what potentially could

president barack obama about his foreign policy. >> charlie, when we sat down together back in 2009, when i first came into office, we were still in the midst of two active wars, we had 180,000 troops that were deployed, we were still seeing hundreds of our young men and women killed and thousands injured, and since that time we have been able to wind down active combat in those two theaters. those cotries are by no means in great shape, but they are not in significantly worse shape than had we left 20 or 30 or 40,000 troops there and, diplomatically, we have been able to make sure iran doesn't have nuclear weapons, we have been able to at least begin the process of political conversations in syria and a cessation of hostilities. we are, in the mean time, taking out terrorists constantly, so it's not as if we are passive and standing by. al quaida's core has been dismantled, bin laden is dead, i.s.i.l is losing territory, and, so, i've shown no hesitancy to use our military where necessary to protect american lives, american interests, but what i am insisting on is making sure that

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>> rose: welcome to the program. i'm charlie rose, the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, the presidential candidates ready for a battle in wis consin. david brooks on donald trump, and helen mirren dominates of chain of command in a new movie about drone warfare. >> i can't accurately estimate that yield. >> but we would be containing the payload within those walls, right. far less collateral damage than going off in a crowded shopping mall. >> yes. >> thank you. obvious to anyone trying to avoid not making a decision. >> rose: we will have those storiestories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you began how? >> awareness. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something else? >> it's purely competitive. >> rose: what's the object the damage these people are causing. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. >> rose: this was the week donald trum

and too fast. we've got charlie taibi and coo to on college. joining him is professor robert kelchen. welcome to you both. who will give me the 30 second elevator pitch. >> we definitely can agree that university has sky rocketed over the last couple decades. we want to highlight on the front end students are going to school and reporting over 60% are not socially, emotionally o academically ready for school. that means when they're getting into the classroom they're dropping out at a rate hovering over 50%. >> when students graduate they tend to do pretty well but debt and no degree is the worst possible outcome in a outcome that students never think they will be in. >> you guys did a much better job and kept it under 30 seconds. i love that all right. now we asked our studio audience before the show is college worth the price tag. 57% say yes. so you guys begin with 43% at the moment saying no. we'll take a second vote tend of the show and see if any minds got changed. now you folk at home we want you to chime in as well go on-line pbs.org/point taken. team yes. you guys say yes co

the concept. >> rose: john kerry, and tina brown when we >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. rose. >> rose: john kerry is here. he is the 68th secretary of state of the united states. after 28 years in the senate he succeeded hillary clinton in 2013. last year he broke a landmark nuclear deal with iran and also played a key role in the latest round of syrian peace negotiations. according to the new yorkers david remnicke remnick kerry's s and critics alike describe him in similar terms, tireless optimistic, if he can just get the relevant parties in the room he can make a deal. i am pleased to have john kerry on this program. welcome. does that sound true to you? >> no. [laughter.] >> rose: getting them in the room is not necessarily in the end going to be a deal? >> no. no. >> rose: what have you learned -- >> obviously it is more complicated than that, and i gues