announcer: from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: david cohen is here. he has served as deputy director of the cia since february, 2015. he was previously under secretary of the treasury for terrorism and financial intelligence. in that role he was the key , architect of the administration's sanctions against iran and russia. he has also led efforts to disrupt the financing of isis and other terrorist groups. this week, president obama visited saudi arabia, where he urged arab states to increase their commitment to the fight against terrorism. the president heads to germany on monday to talk strategy with leaders such as angela merkel and french president francois hollande. i'm pleased to have david cohan at the first time at the table. it's said you know as much about sanctions as anybody in the obama administration. give me the sense of what you have learned about how to make them work. how effective they are, what you have to have. once you have applied them and taken them off, is it difficult to put them back on? david: sanctions can be enormously ef

charlie: john f. kennedy said himself that if rockefeller had been the nominee, he would have beaten richard nixon. >> by doing well in head-to-head polls, acting like someone who could win -- >> regardless of what you think about the republican party's propensity to elect the most electable, the people in the room will be focused in a laserlike way on the question of electability. the broader electorate, maybe, maybe not. in that room in cleveland, that's the only thing they are going to be focused on. charlie: bernie sanders. mike: it's amazing how much of the energy and movement behind bernie sanders that the clinton campaign missed for so long. from utica to rochester to syracuse, doing extremely well. charlie: how much of it is anti-hillary clinton and how much of it is pro-bernie? how much of it is a genuine understanding on his part and the voters are of what his camp -- voters' part of what his campaign is about? mike: i think it is pro-bernie, because the audience he has attracted, the people

charlie: like tiger. whatever the question was, you did not know, but you knew tiger didn't answer it. phil: he is listening to his father, listening, not answering. charlie: speaking of tiger, you know him and you have been so good to him. he has been good to you. there is talk he may come back to the u.s. open. what do you think? phil: i do not know for sure. but if i was betting, i would bet he does. i know he wants to play. he has been starting to hit the ball. and i would be surprised if he did not enter tournaments sometime in the middle of may. charlie: before july, or whatever it is. what is your best analysis of what happened to his game? phil: oh, my goodness. do you play? charlie: i do. phil: it is a beautiful game as well. and he said, at his best, no one was as good as he was. phil: the best. golf gets away from you. nobody owns it, you just lease it for a while. he was working to get pressure off of his body. it took a while with the swing changes to get in the groove, and his body began to

this is charlie rose. charlie rose: john kerry is here. he's the 68th secretary of state. after 28 years in the senate he succeeded hillary clinton in 2013. last year he brokered a landmark , nuclear deal with iran. he also played a key role in syrian peace negotiations. according to the new yorker carries admirers and critics alike describe him in similar terms. optimistic and dogged, undaunted by risk. convinced that if he can get the relevant parties into the room he can make a deal. i am pleased to have john kerry on this program. welcome. does that sound true to you? john kerry: no. [laughter] it is obviously more complicated than that. like everything in public life, people try to simplify it. put it in a bottle. define it in very limited terms. it is much more complex. charlie: you were the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. you know foreign policy. what surprises you about the execution of foreign policy? john kerry: we are living in a completely different world from the one that i grew up in. and the one i grew up in the senate. most of the last c

charlie: zaha hadid, dead at 65. charlie: nicole hurd is here, she's c.e.o. and founded the college surviving corps to help the first generation of low advisors to lege more than 160,000 state of the unions in underserved high school around the country. advisors work to create a college centric culture in the schools they serve. the model has been compared to teach for america or peace corps but with a focus on college advising. i'm pleased to have nicole hurd at the table for the first time. welcome. congratulations. >> thank you. charlie: you're doing great stuff. ow did this come into being? >> there were so many college graduates, they wanted to change the world. and harnessing that was a problem, a crisis in this country. our counselor to student ratio is 188 to one. so the average student gets 20 minutes with a counselor each year. we have a barrier that's really if i can say this, endangering our democracy. young people are not going off to college, they're not obtaining degrees and our global competitiveness and democracy depend on having educated, br

♪ >> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin with politics. house speaker paul ryan ruled out a 2016 presidential bid at a press conference today. the announcement comes after weeks of speculation he would accept the nomination at a contested republican convention. addressing the republican national committee, speaker ryan said delegates should choose someone who participated in the primaries. >> count me out. i simply believe that, if you want to be the nominee for our party, to be the president, you should actually run for it. i chose not to do this. therefore, i should not be considered. period. end of story. charlie: joining me now from washington is al hunt of bloomberg view. here in new york, dan senor, an advisor to mitt romney and paul ryan's campaign. he and paul ryan are good friends. i am pleased to have both of them here. al, i go with this one question. one, why did he say that today? and, b, does he mean it? if in fact, the republican party came to him and said, you have to do this for the sake of the party and for the sake of th

charlie: -- dr. campbell: one of the dominant shadows behind the show is michelangelo, who, from the renaissance, with his sculptures, left many pieces unfinished. you have the slaves, for example, twisting out of the stone that he was releasing them from. memory that has influenced so many late 19th and early 20th century artists. rodin especially. here, bourgeois is returning to that concept. she visited the quarries from sourced hisangelo marble. in this work, you have the contrast between the pair of hands, a man's hands and woman's hands, and very delicate gesture of intimacy, lightly holding one another's hands, carved out of this raw, set off against the rawness of the marble. and the marble color, the polished form is like flesh, but in its raw form, is this wonderful, powerful, packed marble. it is a beautiful piece. charlie: she said, you have to win the shape, you have to win the shape. dr. campbell: lovely, the thought of revealing these forms from that rawness. charlie: i just saw that o

charlie: why? helen: i think it is the kind of movie, with the kind of issues he was interested in, he was committed politically. he was very thoughtful. he would love a movie that doesn't take sides, that leaves the decision up to the viewer and says we're all in this together. this is our responsibility. i think he would have appreciated that. the alan on the screen is the alan i knew in real life. as opposed to the actor who played those amazing get extraordinary characters. here this is alan on the screen. it is a great way to say goodbye. charlie: the movie is about the morality of the war and modern warfare. helen: and all warfare. innocents are always killed. charlie: you can do all sorts of moral questions. helen: the bombings of hiroshima, of cologne, of london and coventry. leningrad. endless history, the whole history of warfare on the human planet has been one of innocent people dying. charlie: i have been told by national security officials, where was a certain people and they have sai

charlie: you do. this is washington, impatient and yelling, are these the men with which i am to defend america? that's a quote. this is jefferson and hamilton squabbling. i think we are heartened by that because these guys did not get -- get tablets and stones from a mountain top. they compromised. they made mistakes. it's an important reminder that they were as human as us. charlie: and they had no playbook. lin-manuel: they had models they were looking to. charlie: jefferson especially was inspired by the french. lin-manuel: and hamilton was inspired by the british financial system. and that turned into a fight. you are trying to bring back the monarchy. you are assessed with bloodshed and revolution. they arenice to know flawed, because our country is flawed, and we are flawed. as we take more steps to the more perfect union -- what a beautiful phrase that is. charlie: and like writing a great song, it doesn't happen overnight. lin-manuel: no, and we are still struggling with it. i think the audie

charlie: what does he say? bob: when asked the question of trump, atyou talk to the bottom, the foundation of what he is doing is a belief on trade going back to his experience in the 1970's. charlie: he has made that argument against china. bob: japan as well. his constant refrain has been traded. i think it has built over time. when you asked why he is doing what he is doing and how we can solve the national debt, when he says is i am going to get growth through trade. most economists say this is an unrealistic proposal, but at his gut he thinks trade and having better deals is going to solve the issue. charlie: does he have this confidence in his ability, or is it simply a mindset that he thinks plays well? bob: it is an unerring confidence. charlie: everything is i'm the greatest, i will be the greatest everything. bob: very few people questioned him within his orbit on that. people not just in the campaign, his friends. he has such confidence about himself and his ability to change situations and to fix th

charlie: was there a letter? >> no letter. >> i did receive a letter from a -- my father. >> she said the same thing to me. charlie: when you asked about errol flynn, howard hughes? >> i said the best things about howard hughes. charlie: you had a lot of lovers. >> i did. i went out to hollywood when i living and i had been gertrude and she sent me out for two weeks with a chaperone who, when she arrived, they said there was no room here. later, she went home. >> two weeks turned into -- >> she let me do whatever i wanted. charlie: what did you want? >> i wanted to be grown up and go out with movie stars. charlie: howard hughes. did you think about marrying him? >> i would have. i went to new york and he had sent patty, who was working for him in some way, so that we could see each other. she had a hold on me in a strange way. >> she ended up dating a gofer, who may have murdered his former wife. >> he was associated with lucky luciano. charlie: you married him because you loved him? --you married him because glo

charlie: what is that? it is basically, if either one of you snores and the other one can't sleep, it is better to sleep apart. you can have sex and that separate, it doesn't preclude -- you do not have to be in the same bed the whole night. what happens is you wake up exhausted and irritable. it is worse for the relationship. charlie: how about things like trying to make up for sleep. you have only got four hours last night, tonight i will sleep 10. arianna: that is better than not doing it, but you cannot make up for sleep. one of the best things is just to look at our lives in terms of recovery time. we camped in aspen, we had this great session. charlie: thanks to you. arianna: the golden state warriors. he was amazing. he talked about how getting eight hours of sleep dramatically changed his game. lebron, kobe bryant. what has happened with andre is he has actually document to -- documented this. he showed to all of these ceos the direct impact on his performance. his fouls going down by 45%. all the s

charlie: politicians even. david: so, when leon panetta was the director, his deputy was someone who had grown up in the agency. and i think that balance between someone like john brennan, who grew up in agency, and someone like myself, who had some interaction with the intelligence community, but was not of the intelligence community, is consistent with, at least, the modern history of the agency, of having an insider and outsider in the director and deputy director slots. charlie: what is the current rules of engagement for sort of paramilitary engagement by the -- paramilitary activity by the cia? david: we have a paramilitary operation that has been part of the cia since our founding. it is something that began -- began with our predecessor. how our paramilitary officers are engaged, where they may be engaged differs widely, depending on what the mission is. it is always consistent with u.s. law. thes always consistent with rules that have been set, if it is a covert action program, from the white house. th

charlie: criticisms. one, and you feel strongly about this and write about this, conditions in the factory were not as good as they could've been. you argue they were a lot better than when we got there. that is not the essential youment, but should have paid more attention and done more? phil: in retrospect, yes. we made mistakes early on, particularly responding to the e criticism, that the ceo -- charlie: how would you describe your attitude? was it petulant? phil: a little bit in the sense that they were criticizing our factory. the princes and really more industry-wide, but we took the brunt of it. our shoe factories they were as good as any in the industry. the industry was kind of behind the times. we needed to take a leadership role, frankly i believe we have. but they were not at the time. and the response should have been that way. but it was not. it was little bit teenage-y. charlie: there is still a factor of life, where you are so simply youerent =-- why can't manufacture shoes in america? ph

charlie: you have. bernie sanders: if i hired you tomorrow, katie more than cbs is, be my campaign manager. and we get attacked every day, people talk about how i am not qualified. you are my campaign manager, what you said? -- what do you said? -- say? charlie: i would say, be careful about what you said so there is no possibility of saying something that was not said based on a headline. bernie sanders: if you listen to what the surrogates are saying -- the way that politics work can be very nice, but those surrogates are doing dirty work. charlie: they have been doing dirty work? bernie sanders: on and on. look, the point i think you are making, this is not a good thing. charlie: when you think about ted cruz's momentum now, you obviously know how to play , because you are any place that many people do not believe he would be at this moment. bernie sanders: yes. that is it exactly. look, i think there is growing embarrassment if you like, over -- it is not just the american people in general, you can

charlie: to do what with? taryn: iwas taking moments from signing of treaties and records and agreements that had an economic route. the motivating force behind the signing of these contracts was economic and looking at the seas -- the stagecraft that surrounds those agreements and how that is conveyed to a public, what is the ceremony that surrounds it, and in that, i found that there is this repeating pattern of this presence of flowers, always sitting amongst these very powerful men as they are declaring their design. charlie: the purpose of the flowers is? taryn: in my work, i was always imagining the flowers actively listening to the men in the room and being witnesses of their beliefs and their abilities to control the evolution of governments and economies and citizens. nature being positioned as this decorative, dormant element in that structure, and we also associate, there is a feminine quality associated with flowers that i was also aware of in this construction and how -- where the flower was posit

charlie: thank you for coming. charlie: the great ken burns is here. for 35 years he's brought the documentary tradition to the forefront. his civil war series was the highest rated series on public television. he's created authoritative accounts on the history of baseball, jazz, and much, much more. -- he revisits america's pastime with a new documentary on the life and legacy of jackie robinson. he was unwilling to accept discrimination before he came to major league baseball. >> from a little kid. he got it from his mother. she was a wonderful woman and he entered into this remarkable partnership. the film that we've made is, in many ways, a love story. a multigenerational for from the of a african-american family as well as a portrait of civil rights in the back half of the 20th century. when he came up and walked out on the diamond, charlie, on april 15, 1947, martin luther king was still in college. harry truman hasn't integrated the military. rosa parks was a decade away from refusing to give up her seat though jackie had done it back in 1944 in

charlie: beautiful. >> outstanding. charlie: it is. so your hope is that the production of these films will somehow show ecuador to the world and bring more tourism, which is a significant part of your economy. >> of course. we expect to have tourism as the first source of revenue by 2025. now, the first source of revenue is oil. we want to change that. charlie: thank you so much, mr. president. >> thank you for you. charlie: thank you for joining us, we will see you next time. ♪ >> i am mark crumpton, you are watching "bloomberg west." a day after brazil's lower has voted to impeach her, a defiant dilma rousseff vowed to continue fighting. she said that a president can only be impeached if a crime is committed. if the senate majority votes to put her on trial, she would be suspended while the vice president takes over. two buses exploded in jerusalem on the at least 21 people in what police said was a terror attack. the prime minister benjamin that yahoo! said whoever planted the device will be found and israel

>> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. charlie rose: how did you come to this? >> well, it is weird and i feel like i found a family in my head and i got interested in doing a show without the audience and the laugh track and the need for constant jokes that sitcoms have. what you are left with is a live feeling. it feels like it is a drama or something. i got the idea of a show like that. charlie rose: it is a drama? what is the story? >> it is about a are runs by horace and pete in brooklyn that was opened i two brothers named horace and pete. they had sons named horace and pete. this has always been owned by a horace and a pete. sometimes, it has been brothers. others, cousins. alan alda plays uncle pete from the previous generation. >> it is a new form. >> very different. a grabbed me when i started writing it. i have had a lot of ideas for it different kinds of shows. you get out the script and i started writing this is summer and it just kept coming, episode after episode. i realized i was writing some -- writing something that was worth shooting. >> what

charlie: unnecessary. spending more time that honor the design or doing a with other dealing stuff administrative and city rules and regulations. would you like for people to see as a defining characteristic of your work? zaha: it is always changing. stuff, through all the it liberated certain norms. originally, the liberation on the ground -- it meant a much and iluid organization, think the idea of a different anyway order allowed me to think about gender in a different way, to give you that andlessness, i think, between the interior and exterior also becomes seamless, so you are bringing urban meyer life into the interior of a civic building. has it been worth the struggle? you think so? zaha: i am not finished yet. charlie: but you have -- you know, you have done -- zaha: i have enjoyed doing what i have done. at the time i was doing it, i did not see it as a struggle. charlie: you saw it as a process. ita: to make these things, was always a gold it eventually, we will get it done. charlie: because you

charlie: well said. charlie: well said. do any of you feel that this, somehow, in this role of musical theater, is transformative? herehing has taken place from the mind of lin manuel and all of the performances and all of the collaboration that somehow is having an impact on theater as we know it? >> good god, you hope so. [laughter] the fact that everything we have been through, all of us. we bring our own struggles and our own pain. the things that it took to get us here. we got in our second week of previews, we had the president of the united states. in this audience. saturday of the first week. we have the chance -- we don't know if it is going to happen -- but we have the chance to touch his heart. to make him think about something in a way that he has never thought about it before. just the opportunity to do it. >> three hours. leslie: you hope that it does it. and is not just him. it is heads of state world , leaders. and i mean, the most powerful minds and talents on this planet are coming through here. we have a

>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: thomas campbell is here. he became the metropolitan museum of art's ninth director in 2009. he was a curator of the museum department of new york sculpture and decorative arts specializing in tapestries. he has unified the museum's identity and expanded its modern collection. they entered into an eight-year agreement with the whitney museum to occupy a building on madison avenue. able use the space to host exhibitions and performances. the space, known as the met, open to the public on march 18. i am pleased to have tom campbell at the table for the first time, although we have talked at his museum. welcome. it's good to have you here. in seven years, tell me the things you think are important that you have learned. running this wonderful and great museum. dr. campbell: a big, complex place. charlie: and a place that has changed. dr. campbell: i think of it as evolution. we have the largest college of curators in the world, all working hard on different kinds of research and projects. when i became director,

>> from our studios in new york city, this is "charlie rose." charlie: we begin with politics. house speaker paul ryan ruled out a presidential bid at a press conference today. the announcement comes after weeks of speculation he would accept the nomination at a contested convention. addressing the republican national committee, speaker ryan said delegates should choose someone that participated in the primaries. >> count me out. if youy believe that, want to be the nominee for our party, to be the president, you should actually run for it. i chose not to do this. therefore, i should not be considered. word purred. and of story -- period. end of story. al, i go with this one question. why did he say that today? does he mean it? if the republican party came to him and said, you have to do this for the sake of the party and for the sake of the country? guest: he does mean it. he did it today not as news but as a confirmation of what he believes is a reality. if it is getting to the point where it was -- the speculation was becoming injurious because here is this big in washington

charlie: different from having children? lesley: very. charlie: how so? asley: it's undivided with grandchild. there is no worrying. there's no saying did i get them to the doctor on time? charlie: so what is it? lesley: it is love. deep lovingd, pure, in the way done it before. charlie: you are not thinking about lesley, you are thinking about them. lesley: i'm not divided. my attention is completely focused. i am in real time. everything they do is brilliant. everything they do is wonderful. charlie: what do they call you? lesley: lolly. charlie: what is in this book? having this idea you are a whole new kind of love. nannies. of granny they are taking care of their --ndchildren, one day, today two days, three days a week. the children are -- the parents are working. they need our help. childcare is desperately expensive. it can cost more than college. we doeed us and they way not need our parents. charlie: other than filling your heart, what are the changes for you? lesley: it's been huge. future. outlook on my my whole relationship with my daughter. m

charlie: and video. guest: imagine having video stitched around and it is 3-d and then having that about 16 i.mes per second, four k per so a lot of information. when you think about something like when your son is taking his first steps. you want to capture it, so you can show it to the grandparents. but it would be really cool to be able to invite people to come see it and be there with you, closest friends and family. and if they can use a phone to explore that experience, put on a virtual reality headset to experience it, that would be an interesting scenario and a powerful scenario. charlie: is it true that more and more institutions, public and private, corporations or government, are using facebook to make their announcements? guest: we are definitely seeing people across the board. charlie: four an announcement from an athlete. guest: absolutely. and you have seen political candidates, you have seen them on your show, and i think it is because of their is a direct -- there is a direct connection.

charlie: what is that mean? kerry: there are times where the president is clear about what he's trying to achieve and it takes a direction. you can have a difference of opinion with respect to one piece of action. but i have never differed with the president on the fundamental direction. he initiated bombing of isis immediately. i believe he saved iraq at that moment and made the difference from baghdad. then he began to demand from everybody were the options on how we're going to fight this war. i think we have all learned is the process has gone on refinements in the ways in which isil moreht - effectively. the foreign fighters is a new phenomenon. charlie: those who go to syria and come back to paris and brussels. kerry: i think that the trick and the challenge of it is how do we deal with that flow of people in both directions. we worked extremely hard with our european friends about airports and names and passenger list. scrutiny. the border of turkey has been an enormous challenge. we think there is still

charlie: bob? bob: first of all, i think those exit polls are interesting and kind of nifty, but i'm not sure people tell the truth when they are exiting the polls, because they know, hey, who is going to know about this? charlie westfall, you did that interview with, which i found astonishing. you asked him about the kgb. you were in the kgb. there is a saying, once you are in the kgb, you are always in the kgb. what an important point about every stage of your life leaves a trace. trump, hillary clinton -- our job is going to be to excavate every stage of their life. as michael suggests, sometimes these things are connected to things in childhood or many, many years earlier. charlie: what do you want to know about donald trump that you don't know? bob: everything. i think the whole issue of money. jeff bezos, the amazon ceo, who bought "the washington post" years ago. i was at one of his conferences, and he asked, could we have known about nixon before he became president? i said, i don't know. h

charlie: rwanda? president obama: even in respect to rwanda, it would be hard to argue that in rwanda there were a whole bunch of folks shooting back and well armed jihadist and we had not just invaded and still trying to hold together a country right next-door. my point is though, that at least has coherence. you can make an argument that is what we should do. i think that would be a bad decision for the united states to get into the business of unilaterally imposing militarily our will around the world. charlie, it would have been unilateral because no one else would sign up for that. i know that because i could not even get the europeans or i could not even get the u.s. congress to authorize. let me finish this thought. you could not even get those folks to support a very modest action, much less the notion of an invasion. the american people certainly should not have supported that -- would not have. there is coherence. if what you are arguing that a couple of pinprick strikes and providing arms t

website, charlie. and you will find legislation that i've introduced which is how we pecific about break up the banks. legislation that the secretary of the treasury will determine which banks are endangering the fiscal health of america, which "too big to that thefail" and bring down a significant part of the economy. harlie: how would you break them up? >> how would you break them up? >>. charlie: yes. > would you determine which banks are too big to fail. charlie: how would you determine that? very hard.ot that's what economists and fiscal analysts do. deal of has a great size, and the bank is unstable that bank , and if were to go under and bring down a significant part of the bank should not exist. if it's too big to fail it's too big to exist. charlie: what do you have to do to win in new york? this is a pivotal campaign. >> one of the things i have to do is to have the media allow us real issues the facing the american people. think our -- look, we've won six out of the last seven states and wit

charlie: beautiful. >> outstanding. charlie: it is. so your hope is that the production of these films will somehow show ecuador to the world and bring more tourism, which is a significant part of your economy. >> of course. we expect to have tourism as the first source of revenue by 2025. now, the first source of revenue is oil. we want to change that. charlie: thank you so much, mr. president. >> thank you for you. charlie: thank you for joining us, we will see you next time. ♪ mark: i am mark halperin. john: i am john heilemann. with all due respect to hillary clinton's list of favorite new york foods, what is this? chopped liver? ♪ happy tax/boston marathon/animal crackers day. ted cruz's campaign is writing a high of political wrangling in wyoming and georgia where his delegates swept up state conventions, narrowing donald trump's lead. cruz has never been closer to se

charlie rose: it is an amazing thing. you created the characters. >> only show the last episode, i when we shot the last episode, it took me a while to recover from that. i was very upset. us,raded e-mails, all of saying that we were within -- we are in withdrawal and it was hard to walk away from the show and it was hard how it ended. charlie rose: does it have to end? it is like a 10 act play. the thing with a series, you have to keep everything in tact and all of the balls in the air. you cannot have anything big happen, because you cannot take it back. alevision has a thing like vacuum cleaner salesman, where they make a mess on the floor and they have to clean it up. they want you to watch it next week, for ever. the idea is to write something that takes a piece out of you and leaves you a little broken and you wonder how they keep doing it. we don't have to. i didn't have to make more than three. >> what is the level of satisfaction, compared to the other things you do? can you even judge it? >> and felt real to me

this is one of those magical moments where charlie absolutely nailed it. i agree with exactly what he said -- >> shocking. >> not only do i agree with you all, but oil and gas companies are companies, they're good corporate citizens, except when they're not. just like every other corporate citizen. but, what she's doing, what charlie is pointing out is that this positions her to be presidential which is going to be very important in the general election because we've got one candidate who says i'm the president of all the united states including all companies, they're part of our country, and another candidate who doesn't act presidential, repeatedly. i think it's fine she got upset. >> good that she got upset, i got that part, the human part, adam, you know the left better than anyone else, how come for every thing, how come big oil is being evil? >> when you have a 10% tax rate, but somehow, exxon. >> it's not hard to understand. we do need to cut down on greenhouse gases. we do need to cut down on fossil fuel, those are sort of facts. now that doesn't m

charlie sykes: my pleasure. >> american history tv on c-span 3. this weekend, saturday night at 10:00 eastern on "railamerica." >> foreign job are tough, dirty, and hard jobs. understandably then, this is the only area in which the american farm labor as a supplemented by mexican citizens, sometimes called nationals, or mexican nationals. but the term most commonly used is baceros. that means a man who works with his arms and hands. in short, the big question in many minds is, why braceros? >> this 20 minute film produced by the council of california aceross provided the bro program from 1942 to 1964. sunday morning at 10:00 a.m. eastern on "road to the white house, rewind." >> the soviets are a weapon. they have overstayed in afghanistan. they have bitten off more than they should be allowed to digest. i think that the best answer to that the them to know united states is going to keep its commitment. >> i agree completely. where people want to be free, whether with the soviets or in the cuban proclamation, united states should be willing to prov

>> charlie smith is a travel writer for "the daily telegraph" in london and a host of tourism videos. he has the perfect job for an adrenaline junky. >> i think a few people at my desk think i've got a little bit of a death wish. i've been wing walking on a plane. flying around and doing loop to loop. it's pretty terrifying. i've done the biggest bungee jump in the world. i've done this skeleton bobsled which is on this tray where you go down this chute and you go about 60 miles an hour. it's pretty terrifying, but it's all good fun. >> but charlie takes the terrifying moments in stride. >> i do this job because of the excitement, because it beats being behind the desk every day and to get the opportunity to travel, and if it means i have to get a bit scared at the same time, i don't mind that. it's a good trade. >> a good trade indeed. for a recent story, he and his co-host are out taping tourism videos at a golf course in south africa. >> we were there to do some safari, play some golf. it was all meant to be quite relaxed. none of the adrenaline adventures. >> we're here at legends

i'm charlie rose, the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, the presidential candidates ready for a battle in wis consin. david brooks on donald trump, and helen mirren dominates of chain of command in a new movie about drone warfare. >> i can't accurately estimate that yield. >> but we would be containing the payload within those walls, right. far less collateral damage than going off in a crowded shopping mall. >> yes. >> thank you. obvious to anyone trying to avoid not making a decision. >> rose: we will have those storiestories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you began how? >> awareness. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something else? >> it's purely competitive. >> rose: what's the object the damage these people are causing. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. >> rose: this was the week donald

no, hold on, charlie. at that point you only had a couple hundred thousand dead, the state had already been shattered, and the question very narrowly een among those who criticized me was do we take a one-off, a pin-point strike to send a message to assad so that he would no longer use chemical weapons because the red line i had set was that, if you use chemical weapons, then we are going to make a different calculation in terms of how we view the conflict there. now, in fact, as a consequence of the steps i took and the diplomacy we engaged in, assad removed the vast majority of those chemical weapons from syria. there was never a claim that, had i taken military action because of those chemical weapons, that we would have resolved the civil war in syria. but i want to be clear. i think there are those who make the argument, charlie, that somehow we can change a civil war inside of syria. if they are being honest, what they would have to argue is we would, in fact, deploy a large army to overthrow assad.

charlie, that really hurt. >> just the reaction the pause. and then charlie bit me. ow. ouch. ow charlie. >> it's just classic. >> he bit me really, really, really hard. >> so his little brother is gnawing on his finger. and harry never makes a move to make him stop. >> it's very brave of harry not to retaliate. didn't try to rip his finger out and didn't hurt charlie and just took it and realized that charlie wasn't trying to hurt him. >> but charlie you must have sensed his brother wasn't happy because he opened his mouth and let go. >> that really hurt. >> that's when charlie starts laughing. >> all of a sudden the baby just goes. [ laughter ] >> like out of nowhere. the kid is full on laugh about biting the kid's finger. >> i can only assume that he just found it funny because either i was finding it funny or the whole experience made him laugh. >> howard the first to witness what millions will come to see and love shows the video to his wife when she returns home. >> i thought the video was funny. we put it on to our digital photo frame for a few weeks and we showed it to

charlie: charlie sykes is one of the writers to eviscerated donald trump. he tore his lungs out. for charlie sykes to turn around and say -- he did it with donald sitting there which was the interesting thing -- he said he's income tent and a fake conservative, i think we should endorse him and vote for him. it seems like a 180 and hard to do. kennedy: charlie sykes is just one of four talk show hosts in the state. i interviewed one talk show host last night on my show and donald trump hung up on her. he came off as uneducated in a state where talk radio listen and that's where they get their education. the wisconsin republican establishment is very different than it is in the rest of the country. scott walker is the establishment. he has been fighting against some incredible foes, the likes of which many of these candidates have never seen. when you see the establishment uniting with grassroots and tea party republicans, that means something in that state. charlie: donald tried to sell that wisconsin is a basket case and the con rsh palsies -- and its conservative policies aren'

i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, the president talks to us about hiss foreign policy. a look at "time" magazine's 100 most influential people. and comedian louis c.k. creates a new series for the web. >> i wanted them ton nothing and have no thoughts and no idea. they just know there's something new. >> rose: just jump in the river. >> just start watching. you should have this tension tension of i don't know what's going to happen and then when it's done, wow, that was really great. >> rose: we will have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you began now howe? >> you have to land that plane. >> rose: is it luck at all or something jeels capitalize on >> try to be a positive force. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. this was the week president obama traveled to saud